1 00:00:03,713 --> 00:00:08,903 [New York Close Up] 2 00:00:08,903 --> 00:00:14,042 ♪ 3 00:00:14,042 --> 00:00:17,153 ["A Brief History Of Shana Moulton & Whispering Pines"] 4 00:00:17,153 --> 00:00:22,546 I grew up in Oakhurst, California which is somewhere between Fresno and Yosemite. 5 00:00:22,546 --> 00:00:24,839 [Shana Moulton--Artist] 6 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:34,148 And uh, I grew up in a mobile home park that my parents owned right on the border of the Sierra National Forest. 7 00:00:34,148 --> 00:00:38,322 And it was a senior mobile home park and it was called Whispering Pines. 8 00:00:38,322 --> 00:00:42,699 ♪ Good morning to you... ♪ 9 00:00:42,699 --> 00:00:46,732 It was a really beautiful place to grow up. 10 00:00:46,732 --> 00:00:55,040 Instead of like playing with the kids on the block I'd go and visit the widow in the trailer and make puzzles with her or... 11 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:02,501 There was one lady that had a lot of birds in cages and I'd go play with her birds. 12 00:01:02,501 --> 00:01:06,245 [GLASS SHATTERING] 13 00:01:06,245 --> 00:01:18,565 But then, you know, we were like right on the, you know... it bordered the forest so I'd just go off into the forest in a...you know, and then hang out with the trees and so... 14 00:01:18,565 --> 00:01:28,611 I spent a lot of time alone in the woods so when Twin Peaks came out I could really identify with that element in that show. 15 00:01:28,611 --> 00:01:38,444 The sort of communing with nature and this dark or benevolent spirits in the forest. 16 00:01:38,444 --> 00:01:41,921 And I feel like that was my first art experience. 17 00:01:41,921 --> 00:01:46,099 That was like the first thing that really moved me. 18 00:01:46,099 --> 00:01:57,103 But really in terms of visual arts, it wasn't until I was at Berkeley that I actually went to a museum for the first time and I took per...performance art class. 19 00:01:57,103 --> 00:02:01,113 Or actually it was called new genres. And it changed my life. 20 00:02:01,113 --> 00:02:06,769 Maybe I should change outfits now? Maybe, should I? 21 00:02:13,488 --> 00:02:24,957 And then in grad school I started to make this series of dresses with medical devices embedded in the fabric. 22 00:02:24,957 --> 00:02:31,912 I was originally making these series to exist on their own, you know to like hang on hangers or on body forms. 23 00:02:31,912 --> 00:02:35,594 But I mean they weren't really coming alive on their own. 24 00:02:35,594 --> 00:02:37,981 ♪ Let's go down here. ♪ 25 00:02:37,981 --> 00:02:43,247 And I started to think about what kind of person would have to wear such a dress. 26 00:02:43,247 --> 00:02:47,314 ♪ Sorry. ♪ 27 00:02:47,314 --> 00:02:51,734 ♪ Okay... ♪ 28 00:02:51,734 --> 00:03:02,038 So really that's where the alter ego started was with this neurotic, hemorrhoid pillow dress character shopping. 29 00:03:02,038 --> 00:03:03,058 ♪ Yes? ♪ 30 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:07,511 Shana's alter ego is named Cynthia. 31 00:03:07,511 --> 00:03:09,928 ♪ No? Okay. ♪ 32 00:03:10,544 --> 00:03:17,087 And also because the first video didn't really have an ending I put "to be continued" at the end 33 00:03:17,087 --> 00:03:21,538 And so then I knew I had to make another one and I also knew I had to give it a title. 34 00:03:21,538 --> 00:03:35,042 So I was thinking like well, what would be something like Twin Peaks? And so I came up with Whispering Pines to like sort of, yeah, base it in my autobiography loosely. 35 00:03:35,042 --> 00:03:57,016 ♪ 36 00:03:57,016 --> 00:04:05,315 And then when I...when I moved to New York I started to, one of, one of the jobs I had was as a home organizer. 37 00:04:05,315 --> 00:04:14,399 And we would go to houses usually in like New Jersey or Connecticut and uh, organize people's belongings. 38 00:04:14,399 --> 00:04:21,720 And sometimes it would be like a team of seven people organizing like a massive gar...you know stuffed garage. 39 00:04:22,274 --> 00:04:28,899 And then another job would be organizing someone who is already hyper anal and organized. 40 00:04:28,899 --> 00:04:37,740 Finding like the ideal like penholder for them, you know at the Container Store? 41 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:44,529 I actually found a lot of I don't know solace in that job just because I... 42 00:04:44,529 --> 00:04:52,399 I sort of veer between having like a chaotic explosion of belongings and then wanting to find like the right penholder for each object. 43 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:58,148 ♪ 44 00:04:58,148 --> 00:05:04,966 There's usually I think something physically wrong with her that's probably in her mind. 45 00:05:04,966 --> 00:05:08,580 ♪ 46 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:13,460 And it's just because I wrestle with hypochondria and you know I had carpel tunnel... 47 00:05:13,460 --> 00:05:21,608 And it was, I think it was real and I think it was pretty, you know, serious enough for me to go on disability but it's something I am always questioning you know. 48 00:05:21,608 --> 00:05:26,599 Do I really have it? Or am I just trying to get out of writing all these emails? 49 00:05:26,599 --> 00:05:32,013 ♪ 50 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:37,594 And I think that's sort of the main impetus for Cynthia's struggles. 51 00:05:37,594 --> 00:05:55,952 ♪ 52 00:05:55,952 --> 00:05:59,701 I guess I'm not Cynthia. 53 00:06:00,719 --> 00:06:06,133 But if I'm not, then no one is, or... (laughs) 54 00:06:09,479 --> 00:06:20,773 I mean I am. I think I am. I mean it is, you know, me as if I were a bit more naïve maybe. Or that plus me always being alone. 55 00:06:20,773 --> 00:06:24,826 ♪ 56 00:06:24,826 --> 00:06:33,358 It's like a tool for me to figure out my own ambiguities or ambivalence about things in the world... 57 00:06:33,358 --> 00:06:39,060 To help me deal with them and with a little humor and perspective. 58 00:06:41,045 --> 00:06:47,303 So yeah, I don't know how to... I don't know how much I should separate her from myself. 59 00:06:47,303 --> 00:07:05,724 ♪