WEBVTT 00:00:01.992 --> 00:00:03.810 A confession: 00:00:03.834 --> 00:00:06.807 I am an archaeologist and a museum curator, 00:00:06.831 --> 00:00:09.020 but a paradoxical one. 00:00:09.637 --> 00:00:12.268 For my museum, I collect things, 00:00:12.292 --> 00:00:15.700 but I also return things back to where they came from. 00:00:16.815 --> 00:00:21.371 I love museums because they're social and educational, 00:00:21.395 --> 00:00:25.125 but I'm most drawn to them because of the magic of objects: 00:00:25.814 --> 00:00:28.292 a one-million-year-old hand axe, 00:00:28.316 --> 00:00:31.270 a totem pole, an impressionist painting 00:00:31.294 --> 00:00:34.219 all take us beyond our own imaginations. 00:00:35.228 --> 00:00:41.658 In museums, we pause to muse, to gaze upon our human empire of things 00:00:41.682 --> 00:00:43.729 in meditation and wonder. 00:00:45.315 --> 00:00:47.549 I understand why US museums alone 00:00:47.573 --> 00:00:51.938 host more than 850 million visits each year. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:53.390 --> 00:00:57.080 Yet, in recent years, museums have become a battleground. 00:00:57.564 --> 00:01:00.428 Communities around the world don't want to see their culture 00:01:00.452 --> 00:01:04.187 in distant institutions which they have no control over. 00:01:04.783 --> 00:01:06.924 They want to see their cultural treasures 00:01:06.948 --> 00:01:10.666 repatriated, returned to their places of origin. 00:01:11.679 --> 00:01:14.465 Greece seeks the return of the Parthenon Marbles, 00:01:14.489 --> 00:01:18.671 a collection of classical sculptures held by the British Museum. 00:01:19.425 --> 00:01:22.210 Egypt demands antiquities from Germany. 00:01:23.187 --> 00:01:25.983 New Zealand's Maori want to see returned 00:01:26.007 --> 00:01:30.356 ancestral tattooed heads from museums everywhere. 00:01:31.197 --> 00:01:36.085 Yet these claims pale in comparison to those made by Native Americans. 00:01:36.857 --> 00:01:40.770 Already, US museums have returned more than one million artifacts 00:01:40.794 --> 00:01:44.768 and 50,000 sets of Native American skeletons. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:46.891 --> 00:01:50.588 To illustrate what's at stake, let's start with the War Gods. 00:01:51.461 --> 00:01:53.311 This is a wood carving 00:01:53.335 --> 00:01:56.726 made by members of the Zuni tribe in New Mexico. 00:01:57.399 --> 00:02:00.598 In the 1880s, anthropologists began to collect them 00:02:00.622 --> 00:02:03.009 as evidence of American Indian religion. 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.099 They came to be seen as beautiful, 00:02:07.123 --> 00:02:12.096 the precursor to the stark sculptures of Picasso and Paul Klee, 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.643 helping to usher in the modern art movement. 00:02:16.559 --> 00:02:20.806 From one viewpoint, the museum did exactly as it's supposed to 00:02:20.830 --> 00:02:22.250 with the War God. 00:02:22.274 --> 00:02:24.693 It helped introduce a little-known art form 00:02:24.717 --> 00:02:26.583 for the world to appreciate. 00:02:28.200 --> 00:02:29.717 But from another point of view, 00:02:29.741 --> 00:02:34.184 the museum had committed a terrible crime of cultural violence. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:35.589 --> 00:02:39.620 For Zunis, the War God is not a piece of art, 00:02:39.644 --> 00:02:41.613 it is not even a thing. 00:02:41.637 --> 00:02:43.136 It is a being. 00:02:45.521 --> 00:02:48.197 For Zunis, every year, 00:02:48.221 --> 00:02:50.443 priests ritually carve new War Gods, 00:02:50.467 --> 00:02:51.959 the Ahayu:da, 00:02:51.983 --> 00:02:54.586 breathing life into them in a long ceremony. 00:02:55.408 --> 00:02:57.380 They are placed on sacred shrines 00:02:57.404 --> 00:03:00.645 where they live to protect the Zuni people 00:03:00.669 --> 00:03:02.983 and keep the universe in balance. 00:03:03.856 --> 00:03:06.158 No one can own or sell a War God. 00:03:06.182 --> 00:03:08.379 They belong only to the earth. 00:03:09.443 --> 00:03:12.610 And so Zunis want them back from museums 00:03:12.634 --> 00:03:14.744 so they can go to their shrine homes 00:03:16.531 --> 00:03:18.792 to fulfill their spiritual purpose. 00:03:20.451 --> 00:03:22.784 What is a curator to do? 00:03:23.461 --> 00:03:27.056 I believe that the War Gods should be returned. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:28.694 --> 00:03:30.321 This might be a startling answer. 00:03:30.345 --> 00:03:32.924 After all, my conclusion contradicts the refrain 00:03:32.948 --> 00:03:35.495 of the world's most famous archaeologist: 00:03:36.174 --> 00:03:37.728 "That belongs in a museum!" NOTE Paragraph 00:03:37.752 --> 00:03:40.688 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:03:40.712 --> 00:03:44.736 is what Indiana Jones said, not just to drive movie plots, 00:03:44.760 --> 00:03:49.518 but to drive home the unquestionable good of museums for society. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:51.052 --> 00:03:53.544 I did not come to my view easily. 00:03:53.926 --> 00:03:56.377 I grew up in Tucson, Arizona, 00:03:56.401 --> 00:03:59.210 and fell in love with the Sonoran Desert's past. 00:04:00.037 --> 00:04:04.018 I was amazed that beneath the city's bland strip malls 00:04:04.042 --> 00:04:07.915 was 12,000 years of history just waiting to be discovered. 00:04:08.983 --> 00:04:12.250 When I was 16 years old, I started taking archaeology classes 00:04:12.274 --> 00:04:14.059 and going out on digs. 00:04:14.896 --> 00:04:18.168 A high school teacher of mine even helped me set up my own laboratory 00:04:18.192 --> 00:04:19.769 to study animal bones. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:21.061 --> 00:04:22.211 But in college, 00:04:23.125 --> 00:04:27.480 I came to learn that my future career had a dark history. 00:04:28.372 --> 00:04:31.103 Starting in the 1860s, 00:04:31.127 --> 00:04:35.254 Native American skeletons became a tool for science, 00:04:35.278 --> 00:04:37.136 collected in the thousands 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:41.444 to prove new theories of social and racial hierarchies. 00:04:42.735 --> 00:04:47.243 Native American human remains were plundered from graves, 00:04:47.267 --> 00:04:49.933 even taken fresh from battlefields. 00:04:52.370 --> 00:04:54.823 When archaeologists came across white graves, 00:04:54.847 --> 00:04:57.283 the skeleton was often quickly reburied, 00:04:57.307 --> 00:05:02.326 while Native bones were deposited as specimens on museum shelves. 00:05:03.380 --> 00:05:06.705 In the wake of war, stolen land, boarding schools, 00:05:06.729 --> 00:05:08.516 laws banning religion, 00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:10.642 anthropologists collected sacred objects 00:05:10.666 --> 00:05:14.657 in the belief that Native peoples were on the cusp of extinction. 00:05:16.162 --> 00:05:20.545 You can call it racism or colonialism, but the labels don't matter 00:05:20.569 --> 00:05:23.377 as much as the fact that over the last century, 00:05:23.401 --> 00:05:27.011 Native American rights and culture were taken from them. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:28.039 --> 00:05:31.250 In 1990, after years of Native protests, 00:05:31.274 --> 00:05:33.707 the US government, through the US Congress, 00:05:33.731 --> 00:05:38.081 finally passed a law that allowed Native Americans to reclaim 00:05:38.105 --> 00:05:41.699 cultural items, sacred objects and human remains from museums. 00:05:42.854 --> 00:05:45.458 Many archaeologists were panicked. 00:05:46.713 --> 00:05:47.887 For scientists, 00:05:47.911 --> 00:05:54.151 it can be hard to fully grasp how a piece of wood can be a living god 00:05:54.175 --> 00:05:56.403 or how spirits surround bones. 00:05:56.427 --> 00:06:00.229 And they knew that modern science, especially with DNA, 00:06:00.253 --> 00:06:03.792 can provide luminous insights into the past. 00:06:05.155 --> 00:06:07.714 As the anthropologist Frank Norwick declared, 00:06:07.738 --> 00:06:11.869 "We are doing important work that benefits all of mankind. 00:06:11.893 --> 00:06:14.920 We are not returning anything to anyone." NOTE Paragraph 00:06:17.381 --> 00:06:20.358 As a college student, all of this was an enigma 00:06:20.382 --> 00:06:22.777 that was hard to decipher. 00:06:23.409 --> 00:06:26.402 Why did Native Americans want their heritage back 00:06:26.426 --> 00:06:28.806 from the very places preserving it? 00:06:29.849 --> 00:06:33.071 And how could scientists spend their entire lives 00:06:33.095 --> 00:06:34.586 studying dead Indians 00:06:34.610 --> 00:06:37.687 but seem to care so little about living ones? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:40.221 --> 00:06:43.412 I graduated but wasn't sure what to do next, 00:06:43.436 --> 00:06:45.094 so I traveled. 00:06:46.897 --> 00:06:48.596 One day, in South Africa, 00:06:48.620 --> 00:06:52.079 I visited Nelson Mandela's former prison cell on Robben Island. 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:54.477 I had an epiphany. 00:06:55.590 --> 00:06:59.774 Here was a man who helped a country bridge vast divides 00:06:59.798 --> 00:07:02.695 to seek, however imperfectly, reconciliation. 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.829 I'm no Mandela, but I ask myself: 00:07:06.853 --> 00:07:10.813 Could I, too, plant seeds of hope in the ruins of the past? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:11.586 --> 00:07:13.955 In 2007, I was hired as a curator 00:07:13.979 --> 00:07:16.777 at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. 00:07:16.801 --> 00:07:20.013 Our team agreed that unlike many other institutions, 00:07:20.037 --> 00:07:24.587 we needed to proactively confront the legacy of museum collecting. 00:07:25.850 --> 00:07:29.065 We started with the skeletons in our closet, 00:07:29.089 --> 00:07:30.476 100 of them. 00:07:31.035 --> 00:07:33.782 After months and then years, we met with dozens of tribes 00:07:33.806 --> 00:07:36.082 to figure out how to get these remains home. 00:07:36.840 --> 00:07:38.198 And this is hard work. 00:07:38.222 --> 00:07:42.301 It involves negotiating who will receive the remains, 00:07:42.325 --> 00:07:44.253 how to respectfully transfer them, 00:07:44.277 --> 00:07:46.007 where will they go. 00:07:46.734 --> 00:07:50.341 Native American leaders become undertakers, 00:07:50.365 --> 00:07:54.944 planning funerals for dead relatives they had never wanted unearthed. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:57.106 --> 00:07:59.816 A decade later, the Denver Museum and our Native partners 00:07:59.840 --> 00:08:03.606 have reburied nearly all of the human remains in the collection. 00:08:04.098 --> 00:08:06.677 We have returned hundreds of sacred objects. 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.764 But I've come to see that these battles are endless. 00:08:11.837 --> 00:08:15.598 Repatriation is now a permanent feature of the museum world. 00:08:17.310 --> 00:08:19.548 Hundreds of tribes are waiting their turn. 00:08:20.668 --> 00:08:23.841 There are always more museums with more stuff. 00:08:24.766 --> 00:08:27.679 Every catalogued War God in an American public museum 00:08:27.703 --> 00:08:31.933 has now been returned -- 106, so far -- 00:08:31.957 --> 00:08:34.997 but there are more beyond the reach of US law, 00:08:35.021 --> 00:08:37.988 in private collections and outside our borders. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:39.225 --> 00:08:44.329 In 2014, I had the chance to travel with a respected religious leader 00:08:44.353 --> 00:08:48.195 from the Zuni tribe named Octavius Seowtewa 00:08:48.219 --> 00:08:50.908 to visit five museums in Europe with War Gods. 00:08:51.680 --> 00:08:54.339 At the Ethnological Museum of Berlin, 00:08:54.363 --> 00:08:58.092 we saw a War God with a history of dubious care. 00:08:58.443 --> 00:09:02.062 An overly enthusiastic curator had added chicken feathers to it. 00:09:02.922 --> 00:09:05.022 Its necklace had once been stolen. 00:09:06.267 --> 00:09:08.316 At the Musée du quai Branly in Paris, 00:09:08.340 --> 00:09:11.673 an official told us that the War God there is now state property 00:09:11.697 --> 00:09:14.530 with no provisions for repatriation. 00:09:14.554 --> 00:09:17.466 He insisted that the War God no longer served Zunis 00:09:17.490 --> 00:09:18.807 but museum visitors. 00:09:19.238 --> 00:09:22.418 He said, "We give all of the objects to the world." 00:09:23.487 --> 00:09:24.939 At the British Museum, 00:09:24.963 --> 00:09:28.971 we were warned that the Zuni case would establish a dangerous precedent 00:09:28.995 --> 00:09:30.440 for bigger disputes, 00:09:30.464 --> 00:09:34.018 such as the Parthenon Marbles, claimed by Greece. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:34.574 --> 00:09:37.043 After visiting the five museums, 00:09:37.067 --> 00:09:40.867 Octavius returned home to his people empty-handed. 00:09:42.284 --> 00:09:43.594 He later told me, 00:09:43.618 --> 00:09:46.919 "It hurts my heart to see the Ahayu:da so far away. 00:09:46.943 --> 00:09:48.617 They all belong together. 00:09:49.066 --> 00:09:53.344 It's like a family member that's missing from a family dinner. 00:09:54.292 --> 00:09:57.716 When one is gone, their strength is broken." NOTE Paragraph 00:09:58.848 --> 00:10:01.662 I wish that my colleagues in Europe and beyond 00:10:01.686 --> 00:10:05.163 could see that the War Gods do not represent the end of museums 00:10:05.187 --> 00:10:07.384 but the chance for a new beginning. 00:10:08.861 --> 00:10:11.457 When you walk the halls of a museum, 00:10:11.481 --> 00:10:14.250 you're likely just seeing about one percent 00:10:14.274 --> 00:10:15.493 of the total collections. 00:10:15.517 --> 00:10:17.511 The rest is in storage. 00:10:17.535 --> 00:10:21.322 Even after returning 500 cultural items and skeletons, 00:10:21.346 --> 00:10:27.218 my museum still retains 99.999 percent of its total collections. 00:10:27.987 --> 00:10:29.647 Though we no longer have War Gods, 00:10:29.671 --> 00:10:32.051 we have Zuni traditional pottery, 00:10:32.075 --> 00:10:35.487 jewelry, tools, clothing and arts. 00:10:36.461 --> 00:10:39.288 And even more precious than these objects 00:10:39.312 --> 00:10:42.645 are the relationships that we formed with Native Americans 00:10:42.669 --> 00:10:45.295 through the process of repatriation. 00:10:46.673 --> 00:10:51.347 Now, we can ask Zunis to share their culture with us. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:52.810 --> 00:10:56.469 Not long ago, I had the chance to visit the returned War Gods. 00:10:57.263 --> 00:11:02.791 A shrine sits up high atop a mesa overlooking beautiful Zuni homeland. 00:11:04.466 --> 00:11:08.681 The shrine is enclosed by a roofless stone building 00:11:08.705 --> 00:11:11.133 threaded at the top with barbed wire 00:11:11.157 --> 00:11:13.093 to ensure that they're not stolen again. 00:11:14.553 --> 00:11:16.894 And there they are, inside, 00:11:16.918 --> 00:11:18.122 the Ahayu:da, 00:11:18.146 --> 00:11:23.557 106 War Gods amid offerings of turquoise, cornmeal, shell, 00:11:23.581 --> 00:11:24.787 even T-shirts ... 00:11:26.149 --> 00:11:28.097 a modern gift to ancient beings. 00:11:29.306 --> 00:11:31.021 And standing there, 00:11:31.045 --> 00:11:34.488 I got a glimpse at the War Gods' true purpose in the world. 00:11:35.518 --> 00:11:37.161 And it occurred to me then 00:11:37.185 --> 00:11:41.240 that we do not get to choose the histories that we inherit. 00:11:42.043 --> 00:11:45.178 Museum curators today did not pillage ancient graves 00:11:45.202 --> 00:11:46.988 or steal spiritual objects, 00:11:47.012 --> 00:11:51.274 but we can accept responsibility for correcting past mistakes. 00:11:52.232 --> 00:11:54.472 We can help restore dignity, 00:11:54.496 --> 00:11:57.933 hope and humanity to Native Americans, 00:11:57.957 --> 00:12:01.774 the very people who were once the voiceless objects of our curiosity. 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:07.481 And this doesn't even require us to fully understand others' beliefs, 00:12:07.505 --> 00:12:09.598 only that we respect them. 00:12:10.732 --> 00:12:13.457 Museums are temples to things past. 00:12:14.406 --> 00:12:18.278 Now they must also become places for living cultures. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:20.466 --> 00:12:22.736 As I turned to walk away from the shrine, 00:12:22.760 --> 00:12:25.134 I drank in the warm summer air, 00:12:25.158 --> 00:12:28.239 and I watched an eagle turn lazy circles high above. 00:12:29.483 --> 00:12:30.936 I thought of the Zunis, 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:35.155 whose offerings ensure that their culture is not dead and gone 00:12:35.179 --> 00:12:36.821 but alive and well, 00:12:37.970 --> 00:12:41.390 and I could think of no better place for the War Gods to be. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:42.069 --> 00:12:43.220 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:43.244 --> 00:12:48.500 (Applause)