0:00:01.992,0:00:03.810 A confession: 0:00:03.834,0:00:06.807 I am an archaeologist[br]and a museum curator, 0:00:06.831,0:00:09.020 but a paradoxical one. 0:00:09.637,0:00:12.268 For my museum, I collect things, 0:00:12.292,0:00:15.700 but I also return things[br]back to where they came from. 0:00:16.815,0:00:21.371 I love museums because[br]they're social and educational, 0:00:21.395,0:00:25.125 but I'm most drawn to them[br]because of the magic of objects: 0:00:25.814,0:00:28.292 a one-million-year-old hand axe, 0:00:28.316,0:00:29.862 a totem pole, 0:00:29.886,0:00:34.195 an impression painting all take us[br]beyond our own imaginations. 0:00:35.228,0:00:41.658 In museums, we pause to muse,[br]to gaze upon our human empire of things 0:00:41.682,0:00:43.729 in meditation and wonder. 0:00:45.315,0:00:47.549 I understand why US museums alone 0:00:47.573,0:00:51.938 host more than 850 million[br]visits each year. 0:00:53.390,0:00:57.080 Yet, in recent years, museums[br]have become a battleground. 0:00:57.564,0:01:00.428 Communities around the world[br]don't want to see their culture 0:01:00.452,0:01:04.187 in distant institutions[br]which they have no control over. 0:01:04.783,0:01:06.924 They want to see their cultural treasures 0:01:06.948,0:01:10.666 repatriated, returned[br]to their places of origin. 0:01:11.679,0:01:14.465 Greece seeks the return[br]of the Parthenon Marbles, 0:01:14.489,0:01:18.671 a collection of classical structures[br]held by the British Museum. 0:01:19.425,0:01:22.210 Egypt demands antiquities from Germany. 0:01:23.187,0:01:25.983 New Zealand's Maori want to see returned 0:01:26.007,0:01:30.356 ancestral tattooed heads[br]from museums everywhere. 0:01:31.197,0:01:34.213 Yet these claims pale in comparison 0:01:34.237,0:01:36.085 to those made by Native Americans. 0:01:36.857,0:01:40.770 Already, US museums have returned[br]more than one million artifacts 0:01:40.794,0:01:44.768 and 50,000 sets[br]of Native American skeletons. 0:01:46.891,0:01:50.588 To illustrate what's at stake,[br]let's start with the war gods. 0:01:51.461,0:01:53.311 This is a wood carving 0:01:53.335,0:01:56.726 made by members of[br]the Zuni Tribe in New Mexico. 0:01:57.399,0:02:00.598 In the 1880s, anthropologists[br]began to collect them 0:02:00.622,0:02:03.009 as evidence of American Indian religion. 0:02:04.040,0:02:07.099 They came to be seen as beautiful, 0:02:07.123,0:02:12.096 the precursor to the stark sculptures[br]of Picasso and Paul Klee, 0:02:12.120,0:02:15.643 helping to usher in[br]the modern art movement. 0:02:16.559,0:02:20.901 From one viewpoint, the museum[br]did exactly as it's supposed to 0:02:20.925,0:02:22.250 with the war god. 0:02:22.274,0:02:24.693 It helped introduce[br]a little-known art form 0:02:24.717,0:02:26.583 for the world to appreciate. 0:02:28.200,0:02:31.161 But from another point of view,[br]the museum had committed 0:02:31.185,0:02:34.184 a terrible crime of cultural violence. 0:02:35.589,0:02:39.620 For Zunis, the war god[br]is not a piece of art, 0:02:39.644,0:02:41.613 it is not even a thing, 0:02:41.637,0:02:43.136 it is a being. 0:02:45.521,0:02:48.197 For Zunis, every year, 0:02:48.221,0:02:50.443 priests ritually carve new war gods, 0:02:50.467,0:02:51.959 the Ahayuda, 0:02:51.983,0:02:54.586 breathing life into them[br]in a long ceremony. 0:02:55.408,0:02:57.380 They are placed on sacred shrines 0:02:57.404,0:03:00.645 where they live to protect the Zuni people 0:03:00.669,0:03:02.983 and keep the universe in balance. 0:03:03.856,0:03:06.158 No one can own or sell a war god. 0:03:06.182,0:03:08.379 They belong only to the earth. 0:03:09.443,0:03:12.610 And so Zunis want them back from museums 0:03:12.634,0:03:14.744 so they can go to their shrine homes 0:03:16.531,0:03:18.792 to fulfill their spiritual purpose. 0:03:20.451,0:03:22.784 What is a curator to do? 0:03:23.461,0:03:27.056 I believe that the War Gods[br]should be returned. 0:03:28.694,0:03:30.321 This might be a startling answer. 0:03:30.345,0:03:32.924 After all, my conclusion[br]contradicts the refrain 0:03:32.948,0:03:35.495 of the world's most famous archaeologist. 0:03:36.174,0:03:37.728 "That belongs in a museum!" 0:03:37.752,0:03:40.688 (Laughter) 0:03:40.712,0:03:44.736 is what Indiana Jones said,[br]not just to drive movie plots, 0:03:44.760,0:03:49.518 but to drive home the unquestionable good[br]of museums for society. 0:03:51.052,0:03:53.544 I did not come to my view easily. 0:03:53.926,0:03:56.886 I grew up in Tucson, Arizona, 0:03:56.910,0:03:59.203 and fell in love[br]with the Sonoran Desert's past. 0:04:00.037,0:04:04.018 I was amazed that beneath[br]the city's bland strip malls 0:04:04.042,0:04:07.915 was 12,000 years of history[br]just waiting to be discovered. 0:04:08.983,0:04:12.758 When I was 16 years old,[br]I started taking archaeology classes 0:04:12.782,0:04:14.268 and going out on digs. 0:04:14.896,0:04:18.168 A high school teacher of mine[br]even helped me set up my own laboratory 0:04:18.192,0:04:19.769 to study animal bones. 0:04:21.061,0:04:25.506 But in college, I came to learn[br]that my future career 0:04:25.530,0:04:27.497 had a dark history. 0:04:28.372,0:04:31.103 Starting in the 1860s, 0:04:31.127,0:04:32.889 Native American skeletons 0:04:32.913,0:04:35.254 became a tool for science, 0:04:35.278,0:04:37.136 collected in the thousands 0:04:37.160,0:04:41.444 to prove new theories[br]of social and racial hierarchies. 0:04:42.735,0:04:47.243 Native American human remains[br]were plundered from graves, 0:04:47.267,0:04:49.933 even taken fresh from battlefields. 0:04:52.370,0:04:54.823 When archaeologists[br]came across white graves, 0:04:54.847,0:04:57.283 the skeleton was often quickly reburied, 0:04:57.307,0:05:02.251 while Native bones were deposited[br]as specimens on museum shelves. 0:05:03.380,0:05:06.705 In the wake of war, stolen land,[br]the boarding schools, 0:05:06.729,0:05:08.516 laws banning religion, 0:05:08.540,0:05:10.642 anthropologists collected sacred objects 0:05:10.666,0:05:14.657 in the belief that Native peoples[br]were on the cusp of extinction. 0:05:16.162,0:05:19.163 You can call it racism or colonialism, 0:05:19.187,0:05:21.435 but the labels don't matter[br]as much as the fact 0:05:21.459,0:05:23.377 that over the last century, 0:05:23.401,0:05:27.011 Native American rights and culture[br]were taken from them. 0:05:28.039,0:05:31.250 In 1990, after years of Native protests, 0:05:31.274,0:05:33.707 the US Government,[br]through the US Congress, 0:05:33.731,0:05:38.081 finally passed a law that allowed[br]Native Americans to reclaim 0:05:38.105,0:05:41.699 cultural items, sacred objects,[br]and human remains from museums. 0:05:42.854,0:05:45.458 Many archaeologists were panicked. 0:05:46.713,0:05:51.211 For scientists, it can be hard[br]to fully grasp how a piece of wood 0:05:51.235,0:05:53.276 can be a living god, 0:05:54.175,0:05:56.403 or how spirits surround bones, 0:05:56.427,0:06:00.229 and they knew that modern science,[br]especially with DNA, 0:06:00.253,0:06:03.792 can provide luminous insights[br]into the past. 0:06:05.155,0:06:07.714 As the anthropologist[br]Frank Norwick declared, 0:06:07.738,0:06:11.869 "We are doing important work[br]that benefits of all of mankind. 0:06:11.893,0:06:14.920 We are not returning anything to anyone." 0:06:17.381,0:06:20.358 As a college student,[br]all of this was an enigma 0:06:20.382,0:06:22.777 that was hard to decipher. 0:06:23.409,0:06:26.402 Why did Native Americans[br]want their heritage back 0:06:26.426,0:06:28.806 from the very places preserving it? 0:06:29.849,0:06:33.071 And how could scientists[br]spend their entire lives 0:06:33.095,0:06:34.586 studying dead Indians 0:06:34.610,0:06:37.687 but seem to care so little[br]about living ones? 0:06:40.221,0:06:43.412 I graduated, but wasn't sure[br]what to do next, 0:06:43.436,0:06:45.094 so I traveled. 0:06:46.897,0:06:48.596 One day in South Africa, 0:06:48.620,0:06:52.079 I visited Nelson Mandela's[br]former prison cell on Robben Island. 0:06:53.160,0:06:54.477 I had an epiphany. 0:06:55.590,0:06:59.774 Here was a man who helped[br]a country bridge vast divides 0:06:59.798,0:07:02.695 to seek, however imperfectly,[br]reconciliation. 0:07:04.120,0:07:06.829 I'm no Mandela, but I ask myself, 0:07:06.853,0:07:10.813 could I too plant seeds of hope[br]in the ruins of the past? 0:07:11.586,0:07:16.347 In 2007, I was hired as a curator at[br]the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. 0:07:16.801,0:07:20.013 Our team agreed that unlike[br]many other institutions, 0:07:20.037,0:07:24.587 we needed to proactively confront[br]the legacy of museum collecting. 0:07:25.850,0:07:29.065 We started with[br]the skeletons in our closet, 0:07:29.089,0:07:30.476 100 of them. 0:07:31.035,0:07:33.782 After months and then years,[br]we met with dozens of tribes 0:07:33.806,0:07:36.082 to figure out how[br]to get these remains home. 0:07:36.840,0:07:38.198 And this is hard work. 0:07:38.222,0:07:42.301 It involves negotiating[br]who will receive the remains, 0:07:42.325,0:07:44.253 how to respectfully transfer them, 0:07:44.277,0:07:46.007 where will they go. 0:07:46.734,0:07:50.341 Native American leaders[br]become undertakers, 0:07:50.365,0:07:54.944 planning funerals for dead relatives[br]they had never wanted unearthed. 0:07:57.106,0:07:59.816 A decade later, the Denver Museum[br]and our Native partners 0:07:59.840,0:08:02.416 have reburied nearly all[br]of the human remains 0:08:02.440,0:08:03.606 in the collection. 0:08:04.098,0:08:06.677 We have returned[br]hundreds of sacred objects. 0:08:07.600,0:08:10.764 But I've come to see[br]that these battles are endless. 0:08:11.837,0:08:15.598 Repatriation is now a permanent feature[br]of the museum world. 0:08:17.310,0:08:19.548 Hundreds of tribes are waiting their turn. 0:08:20.668,0:08:23.841 There are always[br]more museums with more stuff. 0:08:24.766,0:08:27.679 Every catalogued war god[br]in an American public museum 0:08:27.703,0:08:31.933 has now been returned, 106 so far, 0:08:31.957,0:08:34.997 but there are more[br]beyond the reach of US law, 0:08:35.021,0:08:37.988 in private collections[br]and outside our borders. 0:08:39.225,0:08:44.329 In 2014, I had the chance to travel[br]with a respected religious leader 0:08:44.353,0:08:48.195 from the Zuni Tribe[br]named Octavius Seowtewa 0:08:48.219,0:08:50.908 to visit five museums[br]in Europe with war gods. 0:08:51.680,0:08:54.339 At the Ethnological Museum of Berlin, 0:08:54.363,0:08:58.092 we saw a war god[br]with a history of dubious care. 0:08:58.443,0:09:02.062 An overly enthusiastic curator[br]had added chicken feathers to it. 0:09:02.922,0:09:05.022 Its necklace had once been stolen. 0:09:06.267,0:09:10.521 At the Musée du quai Branly in Paris,[br]an official told us that the war god there 0:09:10.545,0:09:14.530 is now state property[br]with no provisions for repatriation. 0:09:14.554,0:09:17.466 He insisted that the war god[br]no longer served Zunis 0:09:17.490,0:09:18.807 but museum visitors. 0:09:19.238,0:09:22.418 He said, "We give all[br]of the objects to the world." 0:09:23.487,0:09:24.939 At the British Museum, 0:09:24.963,0:09:28.971 we were warned that the Zuni case[br]would establish a dangerous precedent 0:09:28.995,0:09:30.440 for bigger disputes, 0:09:30.464,0:09:32.781 such as the Parthenon Marbles 0:09:32.805,0:09:34.018 claimed by Greece. 0:09:34.574,0:09:37.043 After visiting the five museums, 0:09:37.067,0:09:40.867 Octavius returned home[br]to his people empty-handed. 0:09:42.284,0:09:43.594 He later told me, 0:09:43.618,0:09:46.919 "It hurts my heart to see[br]the Ahayuda so far away. 0:09:46.943,0:09:48.617 They all belong together. 0:09:49.066,0:09:53.344 It's like a family member[br]that's missing from a family dinner. 0:09:54.292,0:09:55.733 When one is gone, 0:09:55.757,0:09:57.716 their strength is broken." 0:09:58.848,0:10:01.662 I wish that my colleagues[br]in Europe and beyond 0:10:01.686,0:10:05.163 could see that the war gods[br]do not represent the end of museums 0:10:05.187,0:10:07.384 but the chance for a new beginning. 0:10:08.861,0:10:11.457 When you walk the halls of a museum, 0:10:11.481,0:10:14.250 you're likely just seeing[br]about one percent 0:10:14.274,0:10:15.493 of the total collections. 0:10:15.517,0:10:17.511 The rest is in storage. 0:10:17.535,0:10:21.322 Even after returning[br]500 cultural items and skeletons, 0:10:21.346,0:10:27.218 my museum still retains 99.999 percent[br]of its total collections. 0:10:27.987,0:10:29.647 Though we no longer have war gods, 0:10:29.671,0:10:32.051 we have Zuni traditional pottery, 0:10:32.075,0:10:35.487 jewelry, tools, clothing and arts. 0:10:36.461,0:10:39.288 And even more precious than these objects 0:10:39.312,0:10:42.645 are the relationships that we formed[br]with Native Americans 0:10:42.669,0:10:45.295 through the process of repatriation. 0:10:46.673,0:10:51.347 Now, we can ask Zunis[br]to share their culture with us. 0:10:52.810,0:10:56.469 Not long ago, I had the chance[br]to visit the returned war gods. 0:10:57.263,0:11:00.092 The shrine sits up high atop a mesa 0:11:00.116,0:11:02.791 overlooking beautiful Zuni homeland. 0:11:04.466,0:11:08.681 The shrine is enclosed[br]by a roofless stone building 0:11:08.705,0:11:11.133 threaded at the top with barbed wire 0:11:11.157,0:11:13.093 to ensure that they're not stolen again. 0:11:14.553,0:11:16.894 And there they are, inside, 0:11:16.918,0:11:18.122 the Ahayuda, 0:11:18.146,0:11:23.557 106 war gods amid offerings[br]of turquoise, cornmeal, shell, 0:11:23.581,0:11:24.787 even t-shirts, 0:11:26.149,0:11:28.097 a modern gift to ancient beings. 0:11:29.306,0:11:31.021 And standing there, 0:11:31.045,0:11:34.488 I got a glimpse at the war gods'[br]true purpose in the world. 0:11:35.518,0:11:37.161 And it occurred to me then 0:11:37.185,0:11:41.240 that we do not get to choose[br]the histories that we inherit. 0:11:42.043,0:11:45.178 Museum curators today[br]did not pillage ancient graves 0:11:45.202,0:11:46.988 or steal spiritual objects, 0:11:47.012,0:11:51.274 but we can accept responsibility[br]for correcting past mistakes. 0:11:52.202,0:11:54.472 We can help restore dignity, 0:11:54.496,0:11:57.933 hope and humanity to Native Americans, 0:11:57.957,0:12:01.774 the very people who were once[br]the voiceless objects of our curiosity. 0:12:02.400,0:12:07.481 And this doesn't even require us[br]to fully understand others' beliefs, 0:12:07.505,0:12:09.598 only that we respect them. 0:12:10.732,0:12:13.457 Museums are temples to things past. 0:12:14.406,0:12:18.278 Now they must also become[br]places for living cultures. 0:12:20.466,0:12:22.736 As I turned to walk away from the shrine, 0:12:22.760,0:12:25.134 I drank in the warm summer air, 0:12:25.158,0:12:28.239 and I watched an eagle[br]turn lazy circles high above. 0:12:29.483,0:12:32.623 I thought of the Zunis,[br]whose offerings ensure 0:12:32.647,0:12:35.155 that their culture is not dead and gone 0:12:35.179,0:12:36.821 but alive and well, 0:12:37.970,0:12:41.390 and I could think of no better place[br]for the war gods to be. 0:12:42.069,0:12:43.220 Thank you. 0:12:43.244,0:12:48.500 (Applause)