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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.34,0:00:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Openmedia - the Stream)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.36,0:00:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Josh Rushing] ...International Telecommunications and Union, and it's an agency of the United Nations.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.12,0:00:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're meeting next week to negotiate a treaty on internet regulations
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.26,0:00:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and discuss policies ranging from cybersecurity to online fraud
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.14,0:00:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but digital rights groups have criticized the push for so-called internet central government.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.84,0:00:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and insist that an international treaty that includes the influence of countries
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.16,0:00:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like China, Russia and others could lead to greater\Nonline censorship
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.85,0:00:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ITU says
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.36,0:00:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its main objective is to increase internet access to underserved communities.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.29,0:00:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But should this goal be achieved through international regulations?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.99,0:00:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And can it be done without harming internet freedoms?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.06,0:00:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Ellery Biddle] We've seen leaked proposals that clearly\Nimplicate the internet that would -
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.28,0:00:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, with the goal of the improving cybersecurity, whatever that may mean
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.38,0:00:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- it means different things different countries -
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.18,0:00:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could limit people's privacy by, you know, being able to identify
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.81,0:01:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a communication anywhere in the network
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.20,0:01:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another proposal would limit free expression
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.59,0:01:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would limit free expression by authorizing governments
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.81,0:01:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to shut down communication networks for, you know - in the name of national security.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.25,0:01:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Rushing] From your view as someone who fights to protect civil liberties online,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.35,0:01:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much of a realistic threat do you see in cyber security and cyberwar,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.11,0:01:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how much do you see that being used as kind of useful boogey man?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.80,0:01:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Biddle] I think cybersecurity is such a subjective concept that it's almost -
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.92,0:01:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I don't think it's useful to really use the term very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.48,0:01:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Unidentified speaker?] It's that issue transparency that's coming up, Sunju says
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.61,0:01:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no transparency at all. Individual governments have tried and failed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.96,0:01:41.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now they want to use the UN
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.78,0:01:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to push for their bid, another from\NMohammed who says governments will
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.24,0:01:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically use censorship to their advantage, crushing and suppressing all voices against them
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.93,0:01:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Josh Rushing] Well how do you respond to the critics who say that there's been a lack
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.92,0:01:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of transparency in your process?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.34,0:02:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Hamaoun Toure] Well, we have asked - I've asked as secretary general of ITU,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.72,0:02:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've asked every nation to have national consultations.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.19,0:02:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many countries have done so, and I've requested ITU
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.98,0:02:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to send delegations there to continue to explain what the ITR (?) are about.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.13,0:02:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some countries have done so.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.68,0:02:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every country who wants - anyone who wants information
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.91,0:02:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can contact his national government to get the information.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.77,0:02:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Biddle] And that the idea of trying to get
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.12,0:02:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all 193 countries together to agree by consensus
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.71,0:02:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on policies related to anything - anything related to content really,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.18,0:02:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that alone
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.52,0:02:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very difficult to imagine how you could come to consensus that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.31,0:02:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be acceptable to all players.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.82,0:02:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The general question about how much should government's be able to watch
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.20,0:02:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what users are doing online, and what are their\Nmotives there - is it in,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.48,0:02:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, pursuing real criminals
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.95,0:02:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some normative sense, or is it trying to control people who might be engaged
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.43,0:03:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some kind of activism that the government\Ndoesn't like?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.04,0:03:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Unidentified ?] We've seen reports that the internet has been shut down in Syria.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.27,0:03:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dc0de says: To say that there isn't "Jamming" today, look at what syria has done
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.51,0:03:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to their internet? The abuses of control already exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.16,0:03:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a Facebook comment from Noemi who says:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.85,0:03:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact dozens of countries including China Russia and some Arab states already restrict
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.47,0:03:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet access within their own borders,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.74,0:03:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these governments would have greater leverage over internet content service providers
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.23,0:03:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if changes are made.