1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Penelope Jagessar Chaffer: I was going to ask if there's a doctor in the house. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 No, I'm just joking. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 It's interesting, because it was six years ago 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 when I was pregnant with my first child 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 that I discovered 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 that the most commonly used preservative 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 in baby care products 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 mimics estrogen 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 when it gets into the human body. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Now it's very easy actually 11 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 to get a chemical compound from products 12 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 into the human body through the skin. 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 And these preservatives had been found 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 in breast cancer tumors. 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 That was the start of my journey 16 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 to make this film, "Toxic Baby." 17 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 And it doesn't take much time 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 to discover some really astonishing statistics 19 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 with this issue. 20 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 One is that you and I all have 21 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 between 30 to 50,000 chemicals 22 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,000 in our bodies 23 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 that our grandparents didn't have. 24 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 And many of these chemicals 25 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 are now linked to the skyrocketing incidents 26 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 of chronic childhood disease 27 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 that we're seeing across industrialized nations. 28 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 I'll show you some statistics. 29 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 So for example, in the United Kingdom, 30 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 the incidence of childhood leukemia 31 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 has risen by 20 percent just in a generation. 32 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Very similar statistic for childhood cancer in the U.S. 33 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 In Canada, we're now looking at one in 10 Canadian children with asthma. 34 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 That's a four-fold increase. 35 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Again, similar story around the world. 36 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 In the United States, 37 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 probably the most astonishing statistic 38 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 is a 600 percent increase 39 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 in autism and autistic spectrum disorders 40 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 and other learning disabilities. 41 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Again, we're seeing that trend 42 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 across Europe, across North America. 43 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And in Europe, 44 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 there's certain parts of Europe, 45 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 where we're seeing a four-fold increase 46 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 in certain genital birth defects. 47 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Interestingly, one of those birth defects 48 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 has seen a 200 percent increase in the U.S. 49 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 So a real skyrocketing 50 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 of chronic childhood disease 51 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 that includes other things 52 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 like obesity and juvenile diabetes, 53 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 premature puberty. 54 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 So it's interesting for me, 55 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 when I'm looking for someone who can really talk to me 56 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 and talk to an audience about these things, 57 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 that probably one of the most important people in the world 58 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 who can discuss toxicity in babies 59 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 is expert in frogs. 60 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 (Laughter) 61 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Tyrone Hayes: It was a surprise to me as well 62 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 that I would be talking about pesticides, 63 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 that I'd be talking about public health, 64 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 because, in fact, I never thought I would do anything useful. 65 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 (Laughter) 66 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Frogs. 67 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 In fact, my involvement in the whole pesticide issue 68 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 was sort of a surprise as well 69 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 when I was approached by the largest chemical company in the world 70 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 and they asked me if I would evaluate 71 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 how atrazine affected amphibians, or my frogs. 72 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,000 It turns out, atrazine is the largest selling product 73 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 for the largest chemical company in the world. 74 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 It's the number one contaminant 75 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 of groundwater, drinking water, rain water. 76 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 In 2003, after my studies, it was banned in the European Union, 77 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 but in that same year, 78 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 the United States EPA re-registered the compound. 79 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 We were a bit surprised when we found out 80 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 that when we exposed frogs 81 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 to very low levels of atrazine -- 0.1 parts per billion -- 82 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 that it produced animals that look like this. 83 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 These are the dissected gonads of an animal 84 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 that has two testes, two ovaries, 85 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 another large testis, more ovaries, 86 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 which is not normal ... 87 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 (Laughter) 88 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 even for amphibians. 89 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 In some cases, another species like the North American Leopard Frog 90 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 showed that males exposed to atrazine grew eggs in their testes. 91 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And you can see these large, yolked-up eggs 92 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 bursting through the surface of this male's testes. 93 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Now my wife tells me, and I'm sure Penelope can as well, 94 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 that there's nothing more painful than childbirth -- 95 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 which that I'll never experience, I can't really argue that -- 96 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 but I would guess that a dozen chicken eggs in my testicle 97 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 would probably be somewhere in the top five. 98 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 (Laughter) 99 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 In recent studies that we've published, 100 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 we've shown that some of these animals when they're exposed to atrazine, 101 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 some of the males grow up 102 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 and completely become females. 103 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 So these are actually two brothers consummating a relationship. 104 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 And not only do these genetic males mate with other males, 105 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 they actually have the capacity to lay eggs 106 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 even though they're genetic males. 107 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 What we proposed, 108 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 and what we've now generated support for, 109 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 is that what atrazine is doing 110 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 is wreaking havoc causing a hormone imbalance. 111 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Normally the testes should make testosterone, 112 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 the male hormone. 113 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 But what atrazine does is it turns on an enzyme, 114 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 the machinery if you will, aromatase, 115 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 that converts testosterone into estrogen. 116 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 And as a result, these exposed males 117 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 lose their testosterone, they're chemically castrated, 118 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 and they're subsequently feminized 119 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 because now they're making the female hormone. 120 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Now this is what brought me to the human-related issues. 121 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Because it turns out 122 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 that the number one cancer in women, breast cancer, 123 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 is regulated by estrogen and by this enzyme aromatase. 124 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 So when you develop a cancerous cell in your breast, 125 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 aromatase converts androgens into estrogens, 126 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 and that estrogen turns on or promotes 127 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 the growth of that cancer 128 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 so that it turns into a tumor and spreads. 129 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 In fact, this aromatase is so important in breast cancer 130 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 that the latest treatment for breast cancer 131 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 is a chemical called letrozole, 132 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 which blocks aromatase, blocks estrogen, 133 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 so that if you developed a mutated cell, it doesn't grow into a tumor. 134 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Now what's interesting is, of course, 135 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 that we're still using 80 million pounds of atrazine, 136 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 the number one contaminant in drinking water, that does the opposite -- 137 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 turns on aromatase, increases estrogen 138 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 and promotes tumors in rats 139 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 and is associated with tumors, breast cancer, in humans. 140 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 What's interesting is, in fact, 141 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 the same company that sold us 80 million pounds of atrazine, 142 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 the breast cancer promoter, 143 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 now sells us the blocker -- the exact same company. 144 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And so I find it interesting 145 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 that instead of treating this disease 146 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 by preventing exposure to the chemicals that promote it, 147 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 we simply respond 148 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 by putting more chemicals into the environment. 149 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 PJC: So speaking of estrogen, 150 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 one of the other compounds that Tyrone talks about in the film 151 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 is something called bisphenol A, BPA, 152 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 which has been in the news recently. 153 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 It's a plasticizer. 154 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 It's a compound that's found in polycarbonate plastic, 155 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 which is what baby bottles are made out of. 156 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 And what's interesting about BPA 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 is that it's such a potent estrogen 158 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 that it was actually once considered for use 159 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 as a synthetic estrogen in hormone placement therapy. 160 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 And there have been many, many, many studies that have shown 161 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 that BPA leaches from babies' bottles 162 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 into the formula, into the milk, 163 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 and therefore into the babies. 164 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 So we're dosing our babies, 165 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 our newborns, our infants, 166 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 with a synthetic estrogen. 167 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Now two weeks ago or so, 168 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 the European Union passed a law 169 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 banning the use of BPA 170 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 in babies' bottles and sippy cups. 171 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 And for those of you who are not parents, 172 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 sippy cups are those little plastic things 173 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 that your child graduates to after using bottles. 174 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 But just two weeks before that, 175 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 the U.S. Senate refused to even debate 176 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 the banning of BPA 177 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 in babies' bottles and sippy cups. 178 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 So it really makes you realize 179 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 the onus on parents 180 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 to have to look at this and regulate this and police this 181 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 in their own lives 182 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 and how astonishing that is. 183 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 (Video) PJC: With many plastic baby bottles 184 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 now proven to leak the chemical bisphenol A, 185 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 it really shows how sometimes 186 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 it is only a parent's awareness 187 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,000 that stands between chemicals and our children. 188 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 The baby bottle scenario proves 189 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 that we can prevent unnecessary exposure. 190 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 However, if we parents are unaware, 191 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 we are leaving our children 192 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 to fend for themselves. 193 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 TH: And what Penelope says here 194 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 is even more true. 195 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 For those of you who don't know, we're in the middle of the sixth mass extinction. 196 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Scientists agree now. 197 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 We are losing species from the Earth 198 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 faster than the dinosaurs disappeared, 199 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 and leading that loss are amphibians. 200 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 80 percent of all amphibians 201 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 are threatened and in come decline. 202 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 And I believe, many scientists believe 203 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 that pesticides are an important part of that decline. 204 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 In part, amphibians are good indicators and more sensitive 205 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 because they don't have protection from contaminants in the water -- 206 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 no eggshells, no membranes 207 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 and no placenta. 208 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 In fact, our invention -- by "our" I mean we mammals -- 209 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 one of our big inventions was the placenta. 210 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 But we also start out as aquatic organisms. 211 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 But it turns out that this ancient structure 212 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 that separates us from other animals, the placenta, 213 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 cannot evolve or adapt fast enough 214 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 because of the rate that we're generating new chemicals 215 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 that it's never seen before. 216 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 The evidence of that is that studies in rats, again with atrazine, 217 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 show that the hormone imbalance atrazine generates causes abortion. 218 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Because maintaining a pregnancy is dependent on hormones. 219 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Of those rats that don't abort, 220 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 atrazine causes prostate disease 221 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 in the pups so the sons 222 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 are born with an old man's disease. 223 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Of those that don't abort, 224 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 atrazine causes impaired mammary, or breast, development 225 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 in the exposed daughters in utero, 226 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 so that their breast don't develop properly. 227 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 And as a result, when those rats grow up, 228 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 their pups experience retarded growth and development 229 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 because they can't make enough milk to nourish their pups. 230 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 So the pup you see on the bottom is affected by atrazine 231 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 that its grandmother was exposed to. 232 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 And given the life of many of these chemicals, 233 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 generations, years, dozens of years, 234 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 that means that we right now 235 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 are affecting the health 236 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 of our grandchildren's grandchildren 237 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,000 by things that we're putting into the environment today. 238 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 And this is not just philosophical, it's already known, 239 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 that chemicals like diethylstilbestrol and estrogen, 240 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 PCBs, DDT 241 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 cross the placenta 242 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 and effectively determine 243 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,000 the likelihood of developing breast cancer 244 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 and obesity and diabetes 245 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 already when the baby's in the womb. 246 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 In addition to that, after the baby's born, 247 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 our other unique invention as mammals 248 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 is that we nourish our offspring after they're born. 249 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 We already know that chemicals 250 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 like DDT and DES and atrazine 251 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 can also pass over into milk, 252 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 again, affecting our babies 253 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 even after their born. 254 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 PJC: So when Tyrone tells me 255 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 that the placenta is an ancient organ, 256 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 I'm thinking, how do I demonstrate that? 257 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 How do you show that? 258 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 And it's interesting when you make a film like this, 259 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 because you're stuck trying to visualize science 260 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 that there's no visualization for. 261 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 And I have to take a little bit of artistic license. 262 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 (Video) (Ringing) 263 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Old man: Placenta control. 264 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 What is it? 265 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Oh what? 266 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 (Snoring) 267 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 (Honk) 268 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Puffuffuff, what? 269 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Perflourooctanoic acid. 270 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Blimey. 271 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Never heard of it. 272 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 PJC: And neither had I actually 273 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 before I started making this film. 274 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 And so when you realize that chemicals can pass the placenta 275 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 and go into your unborn child, 276 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 it made me start to think, 277 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 what would my fetus say to me? 278 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 What would our unborn children say to us 279 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,000 when they have an exposure 280 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 that's happening everyday, day after day? 281 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:52,000 (Music) 282 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 (Video) Child: Today, 283 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 I had some octyphenols, 284 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 some artificial musks 285 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:06,000 and some bisphenol A. 286 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Help me. 287 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 PJC: It's a very profound notion 288 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 to know that we as women 289 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 are at the vanguard of this. 290 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 This is our issue, 291 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 because we collect these compounds our entire life 292 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 and then we end up dumping it and dumping them 293 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 into our unborn children. 294 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 We are in effect 295 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 polluting our children. 296 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 And this was something that was really brought home to me a year ago 297 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 when I found out I was pregnant 298 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,000 and the first scan revealed 299 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 that my baby had a birth defect 300 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 associated with exposure 301 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 to estrogenic chemicals in the womb 302 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 and the second scan 303 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 revealed no heartbeat. 304 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 So my child's death, my baby's death, 305 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 really brought home the resonance of what I was trying to make in this film. 306 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 And it's sometimes a weird place 307 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 when the communicator becomes part of the story, 308 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 which is not what you originally intend. 309 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 And so when Tyrone talks about 310 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 the fetus being trapped in a contaminated environment, 311 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 this is my contaminated environment. 312 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 This is my toxic baby. 313 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 And that's something 314 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 that's just profound and sad, 315 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 but astonishing 316 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 because so many of us don't actually know this. 317 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 TH: One of this things that's exciting and appropriate 318 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 for me to be here at TEDWomen 319 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,000 is that, well, I think it was summed up best last night at dinner 320 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 when someone said, "Turn to the man at your table and tell them, 321 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 'When the revolution starts, we've got your back.'" 322 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 The truth is, women, 323 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 you've had our back on this issue for a very long time, 324 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 starting with Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" 325 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 to Theo Colborn's "Our Stolen Future" 326 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 to Sandra Steingraber's books 327 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 "Living Downstream" and "Having Faith." 328 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,000 And perhaps it's the connection to our next generation -- 329 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 like my wife and my beautiful daughter here about 13 years ago -- 330 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 perhaps it's that connection 331 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 that makes women activists 332 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 in this particular area. 333 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 But for the men here, I want to say 334 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 it's not just women and children that are at risk. 335 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 And the frogs that are exposed to atrazine, 336 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 the testes are full of holes and spaces, 337 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 because the hormone imbalance, 338 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 instead of allowing sperm to be generated, 339 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 such as in the testis here, 340 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 the testicular tubules end up empty 341 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 and fertility goes down by as much as 50 percent. 342 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 It's not just my work in amphibians, 343 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 but similar work has been shown in fish in Europe, 344 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 holes in the testes and absence of sperm in reptiles in a group from South America 345 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 and in rats, an absence of sperm 346 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 in the testicular tubules as well. 347 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 And of course, we don't do these experiments in humans, 348 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 but just by coincidence, 349 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 my colleague has shown 350 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 that men who have low sperm count, low semen quality 351 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 have significantly more atrazine in their urine. 352 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 These are just men who live 353 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 in an agricultural community. 354 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Men who actually work in agriculture 355 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 have much higher levels of atrazine. 356 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 And the men who actually apply atrazine 357 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 have even more atrazine in their urine, 358 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 up to levels that are 24,000 times what we know to be active 359 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 are present in the urine of these men. 360 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Of course, most of them, 90 percent are Mexican, Mexican-American. 361 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 And it's not just atrazine they're exposed to. 362 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 They're exposed to chemicals like chloropicrin, 363 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 which was originally used as a nerve gas. 364 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 And many of these workers 365 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 have life expectancies of only 50. 366 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 It shouldn't come to any surprise that the things that happen in wildlife 367 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 are also a warning to us, 368 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 just like Rachel Carson and others have warned. 369 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,000 As evident in this slide from Lake Nabugabo in Uganda, 370 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 the agricultural runoff from this crop, 371 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 which goes into these buckets, 372 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 is the sole source of drinking, cooking and bathing water for this village. 373 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Now if I told the men in this village 374 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 that the frogs have pour immune function 375 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 and eggs developing in their testes, 376 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 the connection between environmental health and public health 377 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 would be clear. 378 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 You would not drink water that you knew was having this kind of impact 379 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 on the wildlife that lived in it. 380 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 The problem is, in my village, Oakland, 381 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 in most of our villages, 382 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 we don't see that connection. 383 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 We turn on the faucet, the water comes out, we assume it's safe, 384 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 and we assume that we are masters of our environment, 385 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 rather than being part of it. 386 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 PJC: So it doesn't take much to realize 387 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 that actually this is an environmental issue. 388 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,000 And I kept thinking over and over again 389 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 this question. 390 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 We know so much about global warming and climate change, 391 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 and yet, we have no concept 392 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 of what I've been calling internal environmentalism. 393 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 We know what we're putting out there, 394 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 we have a sense of those repercussions, 395 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 but we are so ignorant of this sense 396 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 of what happens when we put things, or things are put 397 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 into our bodies. 398 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And it's my feeling 399 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 and it's my urging being here 400 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 to know that, as we women move forward 401 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 as the communicators of this, 402 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 but also as the ones who carry that burden 403 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 of carrying the children, bearing the children, 404 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 we hold most of the buying power in the household, 405 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 is that it's going to be us moving forward 406 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 to carry the work of Tyrone and other scientists around the world. 407 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 And my urging is 408 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 that when we think about environmental issues 409 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,000 that we remember that it's not just about melting glaciers and ice caps, 410 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 but it's also about our children as well. 411 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Thank you. 412 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:27,000 (Applause)