Against All Anemies is brought to you adfree by veterans fighting Fascism and by Veterans for responsible leadership. [Veterans for Responsible Leadership] [Meidas studios] I would love your reaction to this I mean this is something that we come across in like a group that's recruiting veterans so if you like an exer if you look at like questions 15 16 and 17 Ah Jesus! So I'm looking at an intake questionnaire for a violent extremist group and I'm going to read you three of the questions. Question 15: are you in the military or a veteran? If so, which branch? 16: If it comes down to it would you go against the oath you took in the military and law enforcement. You could end up fighting against your military/law enforcement brothers I mean I I think you got to consider where somebody has to be in order to say yes to those three questions and also some of the capabilities and training that some of these individuals bring. There are places in our military where we are trained to start and fuel insurgencies. There are places in our military where we are trained to overthrow governments or work with armed militias in order to do that sort of thing. I'm not saying this to be alarmist and I don't think we need to be afraid of our veterans. What I do think is that we need to have a solid understanding of how badly this could escalate. We're not at the point where violence is the solution to our problems but there are a lot of people trying to convince vets and others that we are; and that is a very dangerous thing. Today, domestic terrorism is the greatest terrorist threat facing the United [Music] States the threat is real and we are all at risk for decades violent extremist groups have sought to infiltrate our military to gain tactical training and access to weapons and explosives I do believe the oath means something and I know that I'm going directly against people who think that they also are honoring their oath I I do solemnly swear the of the United States enemies foreign and domestic so help me God so help me God so help me God [Music] go ahead and fill up this [Music] Magazine asked a buddy of mine I said hey man can you uh can you get me some ammo decent ammo I can't find any he said yeah man I heard that there's a drug dealer down the corner he's uh actually slinging ammunition now instead of [Music] drugs so bought some ammunition from the drug dealer when people look at these these guns these rifles and these handguns so forth you know there's there's a lot of folks that see something that causes violence see something that's dangerous and shouldn't be allowed in society and so forth what they don't realize is that this is what gave us our freedom this is what won our independence this is what protects us from from Attack it's not just our god-given right you know to defend ourselves it's our constitutional right but it's also it's just right you know when when you think about it uh this rifle will never hurt or harm anybody unless something that comes up against it baby's ready to rock and roll being a Texan we're supposed to be able to protect ourselves you know the stuff that they show you on the movies that's our real life that's who we are The Cowboy Way and The Cowboy Way is to be able to defend yourself and uh you know I'm proud to say that I can do that you know pretty effectively you know I learned how to ride a horse when I was about six the property that we lived at was a lot like this mosqu trees and so forth my grandfather gave me my first BB gun and you know showed me how to aim how to breathe and shoot I was taught how to hone into a Target and be able to actually execute with whatever tool I'm using but what you learn in the military in the Army is your Scopes will fail you your red dots will fail you the batteries will wear out but your irons never ever will so I've never had anything on my rifles other than uh my iron sights not the best grouping but from 60 yards 50 yards it'll work up close they all be in the center good boy come herey I spent my whole life wanting to join the military I mean there's a photo photo right behind me of me when I was probably like 5 years old wearing camouflage Head To Toe with a pair of dog tags feel like most kids that I grew up with went through a phase of wanting to be a cop or a firefighter or an army man right I never grew out of that then when I was 16 years old September 11th happened and it kind of put a different spin on that desire to serve I went to go out and find bad guys and find justice so this is when I was 18 years old in basic training and it's the standard photo that you take before you know what anything on the uniform means so you notice there's no ribbon no name tag anything like that it's a a barebones uniform I was wearing a shirt jacket and tie that weren't mine I mean this is ignorance is bliss right here that's that's what this photo is the historical record is absolutely clear that the aftermath of warfare is a danger point for anti-democratic violence for racist violence for activity among Clan and white power groups there's no question that this is the case all of us men women people who have served or not old people children everyone becomes more violent in the aftermath of warfare I think that what we don't know yet is what happens to that phenomenon when we're talking about a 20-year War my career started as a enlisted Soldier I was Private Crow uh and then um almost a decade later it it ended as Captain Crow over that period well over a 100 combat missions between Iraq and Afghanistan and of course felt like I left that part of my life behind me we will take that Dy we're going to stor [ __ ] Capital [ __ ] you [ __ ] so on January 6th I had told all the members of my staff not to come in to the office um I had heard reports of bugaloo boys and proud boys and others um filling flights to come into the [Applause] capital I think as a lot of us watch things unfold on the 6th and then have have looked at a lot of the footage since you see things we recognize as veterans that's affirmative gu this is talk on January 6th 2021 US military veterans who had sworn an oath to defend the country were at the Vanguard of a violent attempt to stop Congress from certifying the 2020 presidential election they were determined to keep Joe Biden from becoming president you can actually see if you look at it the militia groups in the oath Creepers three centers the proud boys they're organized they're behaving tactically they understand that the Dynamics of a crowd and they're maneuvering to exploit that mass of bodies you know so you see an organized line of militia members with shields ready to go ready to exploit a breach pushing the crowd in certain directions the mob broke through into the capital they evacuated leadership they evacuated the floor but they had forgotten that there were about two dozen members up in the gallery everybody stay down get down the floor of the house was evacuated but there was no safe evacuation route evidently um from the the gallery there's no safe place in the United States for any of these [ __ ] military principal 105 cave means grave and that's why I realized we were trapped there was no way out and we would likely have to make a stand or fight our way out this was one of the most shocking moments of my life I made the decision to call my wife and let her know that I uh love her and tell the kids that I love them the only time that the US capital had been breached before was in the War of 1812 and that was care of the British king here we are in the capital No Looking Back Now boys no looking back this is what we [ __ ] lived up for everything we [ __ ] trained for this was the kind of experience that I expected as a US Marine in Iraq but could never even imagine happening as a United States Congressman in Washington DC you know many people have seen the pictures they had barred the door to the gallery they were banging on that door and breaking the glass to that door I've often asked myself how did I end up on one side of that door and my fellow veterans who raised their same right hand and took the same oath that I took how did they end up on the other side of that door nearly 150 law enforcement officers were injured in the [Music] melee five protesters died and another four police officers later committed suicide Donald Trump tweeted out a video he said we did a good [ __ ] job among those charged in connection with the attack a disproportionate number are US military [Music] veterans for me now the capital is almost like around Gettysburg or antium or going to Pearl Harbor and my son Michael was killed in action in Afghanistan in June 14th 2008 and when you join the military there's a lot of lot of competing ideals of why you show up and and for most of it there's a there's a a large amount of patriotism but you never lose focus and never lose sight that you know I'm here in this country maybe to give them a better chance to experience what we have in America where it's not perfect we are trying to form a more perfect union every day and we want to give that chance to other people my son died doing that in Afghanistan only for us to to lose that sight here veterans who swear that oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic of all Americans they should understand how dangerous and unpatriotic this Insurrection was they were trying to overthrow democratic election results they shouted for the hanging of our own vice president that's a coup attempt watching the instr Direction happened and we're going to call it that because that's what it was and watching veterans participate being at the Vanguard of that Insurrection it just it's mindboggling but I I don't I don't have a really good answer for why why veterans would do [Applause] that though I was trained to blow stuff up and run with the Infantry I became this unofficial On The Ground Intelligence reporter May 15 20 2005 we got called to uh respond to a body that was found in a trash dump outside solder City when we got there uh we realized that it wasn't a body it was a bunch of bodies and uh I had never experienced anything like it and now as I was taking photos closeup photos of these faces of victims of murder and torture I was looking at their wounds and looking at the packaging tape that was wrapped around their eyes and imagin the terror that they felt and every time I snap a picture one of those faces freezes and the way that it froze on the screen it froze in my head but that was just a day of deployment and I had 6 and 1 half months 7 months left of Iraq to deal with that I went in as 11 br to the Army I scored fairly high so I went to Airborne school which was going to be my next uh step of training for special forces and uh during that time I ended up getting injured really badly when I came home I had spent my entire adult life up to that point you know either training for combat or in combat it was hard for me to think of anything positive in any way whether it's for myself or for my country or for democracy or for the world I couldn't help but base my beliefs and my feelings on my experiences all of which had been horrifically [ __ ] negative when most come out of the military they're coming out to a world that they no longer understand anymore you really get lost in that life when you're in the military you know what happens is you have the camaraderie the friendship all the good things that you have in the military and then when you come out you kind of have Society that's undisciplined incapable and and just downright ugly good evening I'm Jamie yucas a massive police presence in Portland Oregon today in anticipation of a violent confrontation I'm a proud boy I'm a president of the Hellgate Bridge crew chapter in New York City I'm also an Air Force veteran what we're going through right now is is a war on the US Constitution biggest reason why I joined the Air Force myself you know it's to get back to my country to serve my country I think a lot of that kind of came from my up upbringing you know the family that I grew up in you know very proud to be an American uh very proud of what America stood for what it represented around the world very patriotic and I think a lot of those things that which last today members of The Proud boys and antifa fought multiple times mayor Ted wheeler just sent out a statement late today saying this past weekend quote put innocent lives at risk the proud boys were founded in New York in 2016 you want to keep on poking a Sleeping Bear guess what it's going to rise up and it's going to be 1776 up in this [ __ ] and are classified as an international terrorist organization by Canada we're Western shauvin but that essentially means is that we're the biggest cheerleaders for Western values Western culture small government maximum Freedom maximum Liberty pro- First Amendment Pro Second Amendment glorifying the entrepreneur venerating the housewife we're not militaristic in any way shape or form the fact of the matter is you have good guys in this world you have bad guys in this world and the only way to stand up to the bad guys is to fight them they came to prominence in America in September 2020 during a presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump suprem right stand back and stand by when I saw the president of the United States telling an extremist violent organization stand by that was a chilling moment that was a chilling moment for me it wasn't any different than a president of the United States telling Al-Qaeda or telling Isis look I have a tough election stand by let me tell you what you need to do did we get a lot of notoriety absolutely of course we did but at the very same time it's it's not because we're racist it's not because we're white supremacist if we think about what the militant right and white power movement looks like today there are many of these groups the specifics can change from group to group but the overall intent is the same the common ideology is simple uh we had power we should have power power is being taken away from us and by any means necessary we can get it back fascist groups you have National social group you have Southern nationalist groups you have all types of groups with all types of Creeds but ultimately we're all being united because we all believe in the same thing which is ultimately that white people have a right to exist and whether the Wii is a white Wii will not replace us whether the wi is an anti-government we they're all intertwined the more laws they pass it's going to end up the people versus the government right now we're being peaceful in the future nobody knows when that breaking Point's going M should have hit a long time ago personally for me a lot of people think that ah you know these are Knuckleheads and we shouldn't worry about them unfortunately we said the same thing about the jihadis prior to the events of 911 they live in caves in Afghanistan they don't pose any threat to the Homeland but by the time we decided to go after them after 9/11 it was a little bit too [Applause] late I would like to think that we would draw the attention of people that are from the military with the military background and I think it it it would be true of like the three centers or the Y Keepers the one thread that kind of combines all of our groups is the US Constitution our respect for it and I signed up to defend this country I was essentially joining the 3centers already the oath of enlistment is the exact oath of a 3center I do Solly swear I do so Solly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution I will support and defend the consti of the United States United States against all enemies against all enemies foreign and domestic foreign and domestic in Atlanta I met up with 3% SF and some of the other brothers out there and everybody was upset about the election you know I mean basically we're looking at a criminal that has become our President illegitimately Joe Biden has already harmed this country his son has already harmed this country we know for a fact that that family is a criminal family the situation we're in is a situation of treason the punishment for treason is death in America you have the right to be an [ __ ] you have the right to have the most pathetic views in the world I don't have to agree with you you don't have to agree with me but that is a right protected by the first amendment I think when we talk about violent extremist to groups we're talk we're talking about individuals that go beyond the narrative to violence people who are planning to attack the US government because it's an evil empire people who are trying to you know kill Jews or kill immigrants or kill black people just based on their race or on their religion when you move away from the narrative as ugly as that narrative is to carry out violence based on that narrative to recruit individuals to carry out violence based on that narrative then you're a violent extremist then you're frankly a terrorist get get off get we used to talk about IEDs improvised explosive devices in Iraq and they were incredibly lethal and what we learned as we tried to stop this was that the problem was not the bomb itself the problem you had to go left of the boom you had to go Upstream to the problem and look at where where the problem is coming from where's the energy January 6th now a militia group had stashes of guns on the outskirts of DC ready to go on that fateful day during the Insurrection that's just one of the alarming allegations from the justice department today after the feds charged the leader steuart rhods and several members of the right-wing group The oathkeepers with seditious conspiracy Stuart rhods is a former Army paratrooper with a law degree from Yale in 2009 he founded the oathkeepers a shadowy organization that recruited Law Enforcement Officers active duty military and Veterans their mission was to supposedly defend the US Constitution but it quickly devolved into an armed militia dedicated to overthrowing the US government the founders told us more wisdom that we must be the militia you will not be secure you will not be free without it it's time we resurrect that and become the militia once again there are thought to be 35,000 members in the organization most of them heavily armed and January 6th was not the first time rhs assembled his forces at an arsenal of weapons a state of emergency in Louisville Kentucky after a grand jury decided not to indict three police officers in the shooting death of Briana Taylor late this afternoon protesters clashed with police guys bring it in pay attention can't talk and listen at the same time you're in a military operation behave like it overdrive is going to be bravo team and the pawn Shop's going to be Charlie te following the killing of bana Taylor the oathkeepers went to Kentucky alongside local milicia groups we here in Louisville to protect the Shell station and also the pawn shop across the street and also a private residence you can't predict unpredictable you can't predict chaos you can't predict stupid be my main message is you got to get ready and prepare yourselves and your communities for what we see coming where I think it's unavoidable now got too many brainwashed Americans who' been brainwashed by communist professors and teachers to hate their own country what do I want I what do you do with someone that hates your own country and hates you buy a close extension if you believe in your country still 3 2 1 go behind right behind it's almost like you're in a foreign country doing a stability operation against an Insurgency one of our guys up there is f p for vet and we got another one that and retired stff Ser that's I'm not surprised that extremist organizations try to recruit veterans for The credibility that we bring but also for our commitment um and that commitment takes a lot of forms veterans are people in our society who in many ways have said I will do whatever is necessary to preserve what I believe in to preserve the Baseline values and the Baseline existence of my Society up to an including violence put a scope on them take a peek at and see if they got that's same kind of [ __ ] they've been doing their whole career you know now doing here inside the United States it's kind of a weird feeling I had two purple two purple hearts already in a bron St they said David only the way we'll call you back in if the [ __ ] going to hit the f I came home to visit my mom and press withy was taking a shower she'd come pounding on the door early in the morning she poting a TV by the time second airplane hits 911 well 3 weeks later I was getting my shots our group was the second group that enter Afghanistan H H [Music] man it's it's so enticing I mean I um God you get to fight again you know it's um you know you're trained in certain things you know you can see the battlefield better uh if you believe the country is under attack you have a certain set of skills that maybe you were trained uh trained with that you can you know help the group around you right you're a force multiplier the quential examples of a force multiplier are special forces Army Green Berets you know these 12-man a teams that actually go Behind Enemy Lines and train up to a battalion you know up to six or 700 local indigenous forces on combat skills certainly I think that's one of the reasons why some of these extremist groups are recruiting these individuals very deliberately into their movements they're [ __ ] coming that's you need lock load ready to go hey guys everybody spread out get eyes open get a good perimeter they light [ __ ] on fire we can shoot on them right yep very [ __ ] well hopefully they light sh on fire when I was 21 and severely damaged from a war that I had been lied into and that my friends were dying for when a guy like Stuart rhods comes along with a Yale law degree and they see the eye patch they don't know that he shot himself at a range but they assume he's a combat wounded vet and says like hey you can support and defend the Constitution of the United States standing with us and just you know repeats the words of the the the second amendment that that's all it took for me to be like okay you know you know you've got the pedigree you've got the background why should I challenge that you I I have no basis in in experience or education to challenge it [Music] they're not going to let him get anywhere near yeah no cuz we're going to [ __ ] pain the streets man the challenge with having veterans directly involved is twofold the first is that they bring a certain expertise they might bring in organizational skills or military skills that can make a movement more dangerous all right War up let's go the second thing that's disturbing how ever is particularly in our society veterans have legitimacy they have a particular place of respect and when we see veterans involved in something it gives some component of legitimacy to that cause our command's been trying to tell us to inform you that you are breaking curfew right now yes sir so if you could just go back to your post not not by us just by we will have to enforce C appreciate it very veterans have a kind of social cache that provides cover for a lot of the extremist activity that these groups are trying to do so if you turn out to a protest with a bunch of people in uniform much like if you turn out with a bunch of women um you have a different kind of reception than if you turn turn out wearing say swastikas and hoods and robes so when we think about this this is along the lines of something like choosing to come out in polo shirts and khakis or choosing to come out in funny Hawaiian shirts as part of bugaloo those are deliberate decisions that are made to create the opportunity for public reception and the use of veterans is one way to do this among several I've not been a part of any militia beforehand but once they opened up and said that they were doing all BLM and they you know I've seen my city on fire I I was just like I've had enough and so I you know I reached out to my local militia and you know I've been with them ever since When You're vulnerable and you're looking for family cuz that's what the people you serve with are they look like they could be family they look like they can provide you that sense of purpose that mission that camaraderie that you had in the military that you became dependent on that became the center of your identity they could give that back to you and when he tells you to fight you have no reason to question that because he's giving you purpose and he's giving you mission do you say the oathkeepers are preparing for potential violence on and around election dat yeah yeah we got our people across the country um making plans that there's too many of us there's too many veterans first of all too many freaking military veterans that's one thing I'm not a big fan of the war on terror that did WR a lot of our rights one thing it did give us is a massive pool huge pool of combat veterans and about 95% of them are on the conservative side or on the side of the Constitution yeah so it's not going to play out very [Applause] well and so when I look at January 6th of course there were people who did violence and climbed Gates and caused trouble but in my view they were likely the foot soldiers they were the result of the efforts of other people there's the man behind the curtain pushing everybody out you know these These are the half-cock plans the guys who go early the people you really have to worry about are the people you don't even know exist until you're 2 years into the conflict CU they're tactically patient and they're watching you oh my god and I still I'm absolutely stunned that people don't see how awful January 6th was and what an indicator that is and how it's escalating and anybody who says that this can't happen in a worse way either they're ignorant um or they're part of the problem overran the capital we're in the [ __ ] Capital bro people shouldn't look at the Insurrection at the capital as an anomaly we should pay attention to the pattern that got us there in the name of Jesus Christ we light this cross and as light dispels Darkness so may his word and his example dispel the Heathen from our midst amen amen father son you will conquer white the Tre [Applause] power we will fight we will fight there is one American example of an extraordinarly successful terrorist movement and that is of course the G Clan many people in the clan talked about their experience as a continuation of warfare the first wave came after the Civil War and here we saw prominent veterans like Nathan Bedford Forest Who Rose to leadership of that Clan and although it started as a veteran social organization it very quickly pivoted to extr Legal violence targeted at African-Americans which included Night rings lynchings serial rape serial murder all of these things were designed to create Terror in African-American communities to control labor pools to control local politics and to keep African-Americans from the polls one of the main parts of the Jim Crow era was something that we would think of today as election subversion and we would see in States like Georgia where they refuse to seat 33 State legislatures we saw in States like Louisiana where they refused to seat a duly elected United States senator in North Carolina where they held a coup to overthrow black leadership in Wilmington and in Mississippi when winning elections by fraud and violence became increasingly difficult white politicians turned to the state constitution in 1890 Solomon Calhoun the convention's president gave delegates their marching orders we came here to exclude the Negro nothing short of this will answer the pole tax and literacy tests that were written into Mississippi Law were so effective at keeping blacks from voting that Calhoun's strategy became a model for the rest of the South staying in place for almost another century the clan managed to keep African-Americans from voting for 100 years uh that is an astonishing political success and it happened because the clan was politically powerful really well connected largely in the Democratic party not just in the South and was able to establish itself as a counterpower that would stop the emergence of new voters whether those voters were blacks or indeed Catholics who they didn't see as genuinely American the next and most politically effective wave of KKK activity came after World War I the second clown that emerges after Birth of a Nation a movie that really changes the perception of the clan that wood Wilson as president screens in the White House allows a new media Savvy extreme movement to emerge and this is when you really saw the group take off not just in the South but Nationwide this is the clan that reached a membership of some 4 million people and 10% of the state of Indiana they were parading in public on the National Mall in Washington DC and the founder of that organization had been a veteran of the Spanish American war it comes to head in 1924 the Democratic party has a convention a Madison Square Garden and the klex clan decides that it's going to stop the Democratic Party from condemning Clan violence and they pretty much take over the party and make sure that it is running on their agenda now if you want the optimistic story four years later the Democratic party changes if you want the pessimistic story a major political party gets co-opted and taken over by a violent insurrectionist terrorist movement the kkk's grip on the Democratic party soon ended but nearly 100 years later attempts to subvert free and fair elections have not you rigged my [ __ ] election you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] we're going to try you and we're going to hang you we're talking about 50 and 60y old ladies that are just that just been working elections their whole life or respected leaders on on both sides that are being inundated with some of the worst types of threat that you can imagine you and your family will be killed very slowly the death threats came by text to Trisha raffensberger wife of Georgia Secretary of State As Trump attacked him incessantly for standing by the election results in Georgia he's an enemy of the people intimidation is a form of voter suppression and goes hand inand with with election subversion both in our history and today they're trying to rig an election and we can't let that happen I hope you're all going to be pole Watchers the entire pole watching program for the Trump campaign was called Army for Trump we need every able-bodied man woman to join army for Trump's election Security operation the underlying narrative the messages that were pushed were one of we need to go protect and stop fraud from uh coming into our elections it was a very militaristic campaign to increase its operational effectiveness Trump's Army enlisted group group like true the vote which had many veterans within its ranks as a veteran we're sworn to support and defend the Constitution my brothers and I were willing to shed our blood on the battlefield to protect the beliefs of the Iraqi people so they can vote so I'm asking you as Americans to take involvement in this vote and the idea that military service entitles you to talk about protecting the Constitution is a real problem because it gives a level of justification these groups do not deserve have not earned if you have any information about ballot harvesting in your state go to true the vote it's called trueth vote.org and I sure I'm sure a lot of people in this audience saw plenty if there's always this underlying belief that people are trying to game this system in an unfair way then regardless of the intent of the people that are are are brought into that system that default will always be there to to police that vote and we know that that's going to have a dis proportionate impact on communities of color we're trying to build an army here that will have the confidence and and en courage to come down in here in these areas where we really need um po workers this is where the fraud is occurring you know those areas that he was pointing out there are no allegations of any sort of voter fraud or Shenanigans taking place there in 2020 at all the only thing that's known is that black and brown people vote heavily in those areas Harris County like the rest of the United States has seen its percentage of white residents decrease dramatically 50 years ago white Americans made up more than 80% of the US population by 2044 they will be in the minority the demographic change of the United States away from being a white majority country towards a multi-racial nation and a multicultural nation is what moves it from Simply aha my Community is becoming multi-racial and our politics will change because of this to we have to stop this because if people can vote and exercise their rights the white majority will be imperiled and everywhere I turn I have been hearing from my constituents they are deeply worried they know their history they are witnessing what is happening to our democracy in real time in the aftermath of the 2020 election Republican legislator in Georgia and 18 other states passed a slew of laws that limited access to The Ballot Box but what is even more disconcerting is that these politicians in the state legislature have already laid the tracks to take over local Boards of Elections control the count we can get to the same place through bureaucratic violence as some would say as we can get to through actual violence and intimidation and when you marry those two then you are in a unique era of suppression and anti-democratic [Music] efforts Heavenly Father we thank you for this wonderful Gathering of people that's come this afternoon Lord to celebrate this grassroot campaign of keeping America great we know that there's groups today uh that have brought Havoc to our great cities Across America this militant Marxist groups Lord that uh would destroy us from being a greatness I pray against them Holy Spirit in Jesus name and everybody said a big old [Applause] amen you Joy Warriors and Patriots have watched as your tyrannical governments have separated you from your churches from your schools from your Prosperity right from your families from your businesses but now you can fight back cuz that's what we do we fight back all right let off how many veterans I got in here let me hear you shout they're trying to make us a socialist country maybe they're trying to make us a communist country yeah I am deadly serious the next 3 years is going to determine whether we remain a free country that's why all over America we need people like Eric particularly in the [Applause] sen he hasn't stopped fighting he's still on the front lines and the day after the election he said you know what we got some serious irregularities here we need to look into this fraud and what did you hear from the mainstream media over and over again they said oh that's just crazy you can't do that you can't say that there's any fraud in the election well I'm proud to tell you I'm the only person in this race from Missouri who went down to the front lines in Arizona myself to look at the election audit and they need to audit the whole election they go on at the whole election Eric G is a highly decorated former Navy SEAL and a road scholar he grew up as a Democrat and after leaving the service wrote several best-selling books about humanitarianism strength and compassion is a book of photographs and essays from eight different countries where I did International humanitarian work and documentary photography he also co-founded the influential veteran nonprofit the mission continues everybody's home sleeping we're out here working the mission continues man our belief at the mission continues was that every single veteran who was coming home was an asset and that they could all live lives of purpose and dignity and meaning here at home in 2015 he became the Republican governor of Missouri but resigned less than two years later in the wake of a sex and fundraising scandal in 2021 he began his campaign for the US Senate when I took the oath to serve in the United States military I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and domestic and folks let's be clear we have a fight on our hands for this country and we're here to let the mainstream media know and let the left know and the establishment know and let the Rhinos know that we are going to win and we're taking back our country we are taking back our this is our country and we are taking it back there's a Cadre of Iraq and Afghanistan era veterans who were trained in Elite military units who went to Elite schools he plus we're with you all the way who know better and over the last few years have seen Trump's rise to power and rather than be disgusted by it because it goes against all of our values they don't live by those values and you went from high school to the Marines yeah the good the great thing about the Marine Corps is that they really force you to shape up I I like to describe it as a four-year character education because they teach you not just you know how to iron a uniform but they teach you about financial management they teach you how to make your bed they teach you a lot of the skill sets that you need to be a successful adult JD Vance is a former Marine like Stuart rhods he graduated from Yale law school and like Eric gron he's a best-selling author who was once a darling of the New York Times are there commonalities between poor whites poor blacks poor Latinos absolutely there are things that are shared across across different groups and I think that we should take some inspiration for it from it some recognition that that we are sort of in this together in 2016 he called Donald Trump an idiot I'm a never Trump guy I never liked him and suggested that he could be an American Hitler but four years later he changed his tune when he launched his campaign for Ohio senate seat I wasn't always nice but the simple fact is he's the best president of my lifetime and he revealed the corruption in this country like nobody else JD Vance a few years ago I think a lot of people across political Spectrum had a lot of respect for him but now we see him pretending to be an idiot are you a racist do you hate Mexicans I think it's ridiculous that we're focused on this Border in Ukraine uh I don't I got to be honest with you I don't really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another a guy like Eric gon or a guy like JD Vance they didn't internalize any of the morals that are supposed to be instilled in US during our training things like Valor and honor and respect striking fear in the hearts of liberals everywhere folks they understand when they're lying they understand when they're fueling hatred I say it all the time right I think the election was stolen from Trump and technology companies would not let us talk about the fact that Joe Biden is is the leader of the world's biggest crime family and they recognize that they need to do it in order to achieve power part of the problem for the young veteran too is that some of these manipulative voices are former high ranking military leaders General Michael [Applause] [Music] Flynn so when you hear somebody who held sway over you when you were in uniform and now they're out and they're still commanding that respect that that has just such a strong purpose Trump won he [Applause] [Music] won he he won he won the popular vote he won the popular vote and he won the Electoral College vote ah you know Flynn's Flynn's a character he's something special you know it's comes a little bit from the camaraderie of of being a military person I can look at Flynn and I can see that he's he's got some really really deep love for this country and respect for it and he does respect his oath I am not a conspiracy theorist I I base my life on facts and judgment and what I believe is right for this country for this country period Flynn has been exposing truth left and right and that's what makes him one of the most dangerous men in America Michael Flynn is a retired US Army three-star General his specialty was Military Intelligence is it trusted you know the intelligence Community wants to you know validate the sources of information that we have in order to make it to to ensure that it's believable reliable relevant and the teams he LED were notoriously effective in rooting out insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan for over a decade in 2012 he was nominated by Barack Obama to be the director of the defense intelligence agency Mike Flynn brings to this position Decades of experience in Military Intelligence his knowledge of the 21st century Battlefield is unsurpassed but 3 years later the one-time Democrat had become an avid supporter of cand date Trump lock her up that's right yeah that's right lock her up and would soon become president Trump's National Security adviser but just 22 days into his term Trump fired him for lying about his interactions with Russia the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation is what led the president to ask for General Flynn's resignation and general Flynn would soon enter a plea deal with the FBI his prison sentence was under review when Trump pardoned him in December 2020 less than a month before leaving office Mike Flynn and I served together for many years and we very close friends I disagree with him politically I am disappointed by the nature of the the comments that he makes the calls to action this is one of our top quality guns and maybe I'll find somebody in Washington [Laughter] DC disgraced former General Michael Flynn convicted felon he uses General like it's his first name I'm his Facebook friend his Facebook name is Jen Flynn on telegram he's General Flynn he's using his rank as part of his identity and and he has adopted the radical fascist politics of Maga and of Kon where we go one we go all we go one we go all God Bless America to build himself up as a leader for an Insurgency against the people of the United States this country is awake this is soil that we have fought over and we will fight for in the future he could take military capabilities and he could place them in those States and basically rerun an election in each of those States clearly his military experience influences some people to give him legitimacy that he might not otherwise have I'm a simple Marine I want to know why what happened in minimar can't happen here no reason I mean it should happen here no reason right that's right Flynn's apparent endorsement of a military coup is not the only time the former military intelligence officer has has planted ideas about the illegitimacy of the federal government and its partners in crime well he doesn't need any introduction on this Friday January 28th broadcast he's General Flynn and of course a embattled individual in the fight for this Republic all these Global organizations they see themselves as this is how we can control societies this is how we can control Humanity so let's introduce something called covid and they did it and they did it for for a couple of reasons one of the big reasons was was to steal an election they have an intent to have a new world order they have an intent to track every single one of us and they use it under the skin they use a means by which it's under the skin Dr foui would be right in right in there in the same room with people like Dr Mangal and Dr zel who worked for the Nazis at the time of uh of of Hitler's all of Hitler's experimentation on human beings the reality is as you learn the ability to lead whether it's military or not you learn the ability to get people to do stuff and that's just what he's doing we are in a crucible moment in the history of the United States of America we're fighting with faith we're fighting with courage and nothing can resist the power of prayer he perverts this military experience this religious experience to evoke this kind of feeling of a higher purpose the oppression that they have used with this virus is an Abomination to Freedom there is no righteousness on their side the Lord is not on their side he is on ours that's right we will not go silently in to the night we will fight we are making our lists and we are checking them twice and we are finding out W who is the enemy of America people that are creating the oppression in this country the people that are involved with tearing down our freedoms our liberties and the value of what we hold dear in this country need to be placed on list people like Dr fouchy that have constantly in his life caused death destruction illness and horrible things they have to be put on these list they have to be put out of our society all together and never be trusted again now if someone ends up attacking these people that have been found to be an enemy of the United States and they're criminals I'm not going to shed a tear about it come in good boy when I left the military I was a hardcore Republican was libertarian like a lot of people in the military I was looking at like I can't even call them documentaries but these YouTube videos like uh this movie Zeitgeist you had better wake up and understand that there are people who are guiding your life and you don't even know it now that I study extremism I recognize it's filled with anti-semitic tropes the theme of the movie without explicitly saying it is that Jewish people people were out there controlling the banks and the banks are the reasons why we go into Wars so therefore the Jews are responsible for my friends dying right that's the connection that it's trying to make the ultimate goal is to get everybody in this world chipped with the with the RFID chip and uh have all money be on those chips and everything on those chips and if anybody wants to protest what we do or violate what we want we just turn off that chip I just absorbed this propaganda and fell for it fell into it I was watching Alex Jones before anyone knew what his name was I mean now they're openly bragging it's world government and they run it Tucker Carlson was back on MSNBC and Glen Beck it's all connected these people down here are radicals and all of these Concepts started to fit together and feed this narrative this this idea that I had felt but couldn't put words to for so long that I was the victim not just of circumstance but of some sort of Nefarious group of powerful individuals ual who were manipulating all of us and and that everyone was just acting as puppets you know what people now call the Deep state but we were awake and it was our job to wake everybody else up who's the Patriot video [Music] ladies and gentlemen prepare for the strong mag yep that's there's a lot there they flashed photos of the pyramid on our dollar bills they showed a picture of George Soros they talked about the World Bank everything's Incorporated these are all things that I didn't understand when I was watching my propaganda videos uh back in 2007 2008 but man I mean it's like they just took notes off of the [ __ ] that had me all confused and crazy back then and the second these groups have always operated on a Playbook of using prevailing social context to mobilize people recruit and radicalize the 20s Clan was anti-black and anti-jewish but it was also anti-mexican near the border anti- labor in the Pacific Northwest anti-immigrant in the Northeast where there were a lot of immigrants what it did was figure out what the prevailing social tensions were in a given community and use those to recruit people for its own purposes the prevailing feeling among a host of veterans returning from Vietnam was that they had been stabbed in the back by an ungrateful Society their own feckless government and the media Elite well it seems now more certain than ever that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate it made them ripe recruits for a new conspiracy fueled wave of violent extremism aimed at rooting out the Enemy Within the Cubans are coming in by the thousands the Mexicans are coming in by the millions the the Haans are coming in from haia or wherever the that little [ __ ] country is coming in by the hundreds of thousands white people have had enough they can no longer even afford to buy proper housing for themselves yet our government would have us spend thousands and thousands of millions of dollars on non whites they've had enough one of the key figures in the white power movement after the Vietnam War and one of the architects of its move to sell style terrorism to using the earling internet and to a number of other major changes that fueled its rise is a veteran named LS beam the only thing that's it imported tonight is Will America be white 100 years from tonight and if so will you commit yourself to the battle to make it so Lewis beam served two tours in Vietnam as a helicopter Gunner and came home in 1968 with multiple medals for bravery in combat says that I use great professional skill and courage in the face of great personal danger that hasn't changed at all in my opinion presently I'm having to use utmost skill and I think it does take courage to to do what I'm doing and I'm doing it in the face of the enemy that's time the enemy goes under a different name beam took the skills he honed in the military and brought them to the KKK where he rose to Grand Dragon of the Texas Knights I had been paid by the government $300 a month to fight and kill companies to execute them whatever term you want to use uh in Vietnam and what is the difference between Vietnam and Houston Texas but a few thousand [Applause] miles one of the reasons that beam Rose so quickly in these organizations is that he told a story about Warfare and Trauma that a lot of their people were mobilized by including people who didn't serve I saw a young man about 19 years old ENT traed in a armored personnel carrier in about 22 Mi Northeast of s gun with his legs pinned beneath the seat as a result of a a rocket propell grenade and he stayed on the radio kep asking for help asking us to come get him so his argument was about the wrongness of war the horror of seeing casualties in the field the horror of losing your fellow soldiers but his pivot was this is why we should come back to the United States and bring that violence home to everybody who left us there our mission is a reconnaissance Patrol we have information that the enemy is in the area the Jews have assumed leadership of the federal government they totally control it and they're controlling us thly the government that's in Washington DC today does not represent the interest of the white people therefore we will replace them with people who will represent the ideals of white Wester Christian civilization how are we going to replace them by any means necessary we want the heads of the enemies in our toe sacks in Vietnam they took ears we're going to take heads beam's rhetoric and Military exercises eventually got the attention of the FBI and in 1983 he left Texas for Hayden Lake Idaho a Haven for white supremacists he joined forces with Aryan Nations and began to command a cell style terrorist movement of white power activists the idea was that one or a few white power activists could work together towards a commonly held set of goals and targets but without prosecutable ties between them and without direct ties to movement leadership but there was a problem the cells which were spread across the country and into Canada still needed to communicate with each other and even when the FBI wasn't listening on their phones beam wanted to do more than talk he wanted to share ideas and create networks so they created a social network called Liberty net and one of the first postings was titled online for God and [Music] Country and then Louis beam traveled around the country teaching people how to go online these message boards included assassination lists and ideological content and who you should hate and why but they also included social network content like personal ads and this was in 1984 885 way before most people think about farri online activism decades before Facebook can't beat the with this day using this early form of the internet clansmen skinheads neo-nazis and other extremist groups banded together to commit a series of heinous robberies bombings and murders across the country and since we're all racists since we're all the radical right and that's a crime in America when you have to do the time don't regret the crime we'll be at the Forefront of the fight doing what uh hopefully uh smashing the uh skulls of Communists or uh executing race Traders or uh shooting on site anybody we don't think is white we have to get our government back that's what it's all about all these so-called subversive groups are nothing but patriotic citizens trying to do just that by 1985 the department of Justice came to believe that the network of white power cells Behind These crimes represented a serious threat to National Security Lewis beam has been charged with seditious conspiracy along with 13 other individuals Mr Bean did you plan to overthrow the government what else is a country boy going to do on Saturday night when the only drug store in Town's closed but the trial was a disaster for the government a stunning verdict is afternoon in the trial of 13 white supremacists among charges they faced conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States the verdicts from the all-white jury came on the fourth day of deliberations beam and his codefendants were acquitted on all charges the humiliating outcome led the doj to focus their attention on individual criminals and abandon investigations of the white power movement as a domestic terrorist threat the catastrophic Legacy of leaderless resistance has been that we as a public have lost sight of this Movement we don't have any domestic terrorism legislation we don't have domestic terrorism laws for example the number one tool um FBI agents and prosecutors use to disrupt terrorist attacks in the United States is material support material support is basically a charge to levy on individuals who are helping a terrorist organization or a ENT organization unfortunately we don't have that when it comes to domestic terrorist organizations the problem with this situation is when you don't have domestic terrorism laws you need an act to happen you need a hot body in order to start an investigation and usually you can charge that individual with hate a crime or with other charges but you cannot charge them with terrorism you cannot go after the whole network holy cow about a third of the building has been blown away is just devastating get back get back a massive Car Bomb exploded outside of a large Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City shattering that building Killing Children Killing federal employees military men and civilians even Timothy McVey he blew up a whole Federal Building and prosecutors could not charge him or his associates with terrorism the bombing of Oklahoma City in 1995 was the largest deliberate mass casualty event on American soil between Pearl Harbor and 911 but most people still don't understand what that event was and what it meant the indictment charges that Timothy McVey and Terry Nichols former Army buddies with a grudge against the government planned the bombing selected McVey and Nichols met each other through their service they trained together at Fort Riley Kansas before McVey deployed to the gulf as part of Big Red One infantry unit in Iraq there he seems to have experienced some amount of traumatic combat before their return home after washing out his special forces he was really angry and we see at that moment his deepening involvement in radical white power [Music] activity ranging from mcvey's connection to the Michigan militia the federal government itself is the child of the armed citizen we the people are the parent of the child we call government in short the federal government needs a good spanking to make it behave his contact and attempted contact with groups like the Arizona Patriots and the National Alliance and his written belief in white power principles that were published in his hometown newspaper McVey used his military training to help carry out the Oklahoma City bombing and in a letter to a friend he invoked his military oath to to justify it I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and I will blood will flow in the streets good versus evil free men versus socialist wannabe slaves pray it's not your blood my friend the other key component here was his use of the Turner Diaries at gun shows Timothy McVey would hand out copies of the Turner Diaries a dystopian novel that details how to top the US government the fictional revolutionaries start by blowing up a federal building and then proceed to exterminate their political enemies including all Jews blacks and Latinos the Turner Diaries became enormously important to this movement not because it's a good book but because it provides the imaginative answer to a really important question which is how can a tiny group of people a small Fringe movement do what they're setting out to do in this period which is to overthrow the most militarized superstate in world history in 1997 McVey was convicted of murdering 168 people using a weapon of mass destruction and blowing up a federal building no domestic terrorism charges were brought however because he and Nicholls were thought to have acted alone just imagine if Timothy mcvey's name was Muhammad we will look at that terrorism threat in a very different length first of all we will look at it as a terrorist threat we will go after McVey we will go after all the people who are helping him or who are assisting him we will keep the investigation going in order to get the whole network and when you are very limited with the tools uh you are using these groups will take benefits from it these are not lone wolves these are people who are united by ideology by social ties by selection of targets these are all part of the same movement and this is really what we're seeing continuing into our present day moment tonight the plot to kidnap a governor foiled by the [Music] FBI in October 2020 less than a month before the presidential election 14 men were arrested in a plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer their plans included storming the state capital using zip ties to take hostages and conducting a trial that would result in a public hanging of the governor the suspects were all members of The Wolverine Watchman a paramilitary group commanded by a former Marine that had ties to the Michigan militia prosecutors contend that they wanted to kidnap her to try to ignite another American Civil War before the 2020 election in hopes of disrupting it and perhaps keeping Joe Biden from becoming president but Federal prosecutors could not charge any of the conspirators with material support and despite having amount mountain of evidence laid out against them at trial the group's leader Adam Fox telling the informant he was inspired by Oklahoma City Bombing terrorist Timothy McVey telling the informant if we can't have our world they can't have theirs Burning It Down Like Lewis beam before them if we can't have this country nobody gets it that clear we'll be total ashes everywhere none of the defendants were convicted on federal charges the goals of this Insurgency in Michigan were to take over the state house and then to kidnap and execute the governor the goal of the Insurgency on January 6 was to overturn the results of a democratic election so if we see this as part of a movement it's to stop the American people being able to choose their own leaders an Insurgency is all about seizing control of a government not through winning an election not through Democratic processes not through persuasion but through violence it's an it's a form of War USA USA USA coward tra if you look at January 6th what we're looking at is really the Collision of three different streams of Activity one is the organized white power movement that is coming off of decades if not generations of organizing Armament training and ideological content they want to know what the orange has stand for [ __ ] proud boy another is kinon which is newer more radical works very fast where we go one we go all and the final one the biggest one is simply the Trump Bas TR Trum Trum Trum it's clear to me that what you had was a concerted effort by a number of different organizers do you want your house back take it to take these various groups together and focus their energies into create a critical mass and that's not new in Iraq when al-Qaeda in Iraq emerged it really came led by a guy named Abu musaba zwi he traveled around the country had a Charisma to him and he portrayed this hey I'm not your normal political leader we are going to show the kind of commitment that real men would do and al-Qaeda in Iraq which was very extreme ideologically started to be joined by people who weren't natural bedfellows people go finally someone who's not going to put up with the crap someone who's going to take the law into their own hands and going to get us what we deserve because we have been exploited by the elites of the region I think Abu masab Bazar kawi and Donald Trump both understand that you can inflame those passions it is where the leader takes those frustrations that becomes potentially disastrous grievance narratives are made up they're constructed narratives but they are used by demagogues because they work and if you have a political party that is organized around grievance around a sense of loss and a sense of threat you have the basis for the ideology that will promote violence we gathered together at the heart of our nation's capital for one very very basic and simple reason to save our democracy we're going to walk down to the capital and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you'll never take back our country with weakness you have to show strength and you have to be [Applause] strong DC is a [ __ ] war zone this what we the siege of the capital on January 6th did not overturn the results of the 2020 election but that's not the only measure by which the actions of that day are being judged there's footage of proud boys directing journalists to read the Turner Diaries Read The Turner Diaries on January 6th the Turner Diaries was structuring a lot of sort of the imaginative performative action of that day the news hung outside the capital refers to events in the Turner Diaries called The Day of the Rope which is the hanging of race Traders which include politicians [Applause] [Music] my and significantly there is a strike on the capital that is not supposed to be a mass casualty attack in the Turner Diaries it's a mortar attack it's meant to be simply the selected killing of a few corrupt legislators in order to show other white people that extremists can strike at the heart of American power yeah yeah yeah we did it we did it [ __ ] did it yo take laptops paperwork take everything all that [ __ ] my friend my friend sitting in and by that measure I think that they succeeded Donald Trump tweeted out a video he said we did a good [ __ ] job January 6 was a huge success for them January 6 inspired so many people not only here in the United States but even in Europe that violence is a way to change the government is a way to change that establishments in the western world that they consider corrupt they considered evil uh they considered that these governments are nothing but tools to the Jews or to whatever conspiracy they believe in you believe the rich people in the world are using this disease and it's exaggerating it to create some sort of apocalyptic nightmare right you think it's common sense that we all have to stay inside and be afraid of the [Applause] air you look at January 6th I think the people that were there that participate in it number one they wanted it to serve as a wakeup call to those people who are Empower and the fact of the matter is every single person that was there that day is a patriot of this nation y Randy maybe you want to put the beers inside the the the the bridge maybe you want to get off being a patriot being a person that loves their country especially you know being a military veteran you take an oath to the Constitution and for a lot of those people that were there that day they felt that their constitution was being shredded up our democracy was being shredded right in front of our eyes I think it's absolutely heartbreaking to see veterans involved in these things and I know for a lot of them that their hearts are in in some ways in the right place we just don't live in the same world of truth [Music] anymore the people in DC they were Americans yeah and they were patriots they only broke laws because the DC police didn't do their job okay okay that's it people died because they didn't do their job so they broke into the Capital because DC police didn't do their job the DC police they didn't break into anything they let them in not only did they let them in it's paid for by tax dollars it's their [ __ ] property easy sorry this is the lethal danger of the big election lie right it's this is a conspiracy theory that says the very heart of American political life the very heart of our democracy has been destroyed and taken from us which leaves us what recourse do I believe the election was stolen absolutely without a doubt there's no way in hell Joe Biden was elected 81 million votes for Joe Biden I don't think so we're in a situation right now where you know we can't trust our elections anymore we know that so what really is scary is is that what will the people do what will the average American do when they finally wake up to the reality of all this and the answer to that is we don't know we have no idea what the American people will do this no longer is a constitutional republic and we are going to fight to bring our constitutional republic back again we've had violent domestic extremist organizations for a long time but I think what makes this moment particularly dangerous there are a couple of things the first one is the fact that it's able to ride on a wave of conspiracy thinking and general distrust that's happening because of social media Technologies it's happening because of the way we we've structured our society on the internet that gives them the sheer numbers of people that they could never dream of of bringing to bear on their own everybody's got to put their shoulder to the wheel we need participation 24/7 we need you to be a force multiplier as a soldier and as a as a uh as a general as a retired General we have an army of digital soldiers if you can do command and control over social media and you're fighting against evil and you're on the side of God and you're on the side of the United States in your oath it's a very attractive proposition the sad part is is you're using all those skills and that goodness and that purity of heart that you think is actually absolute unadulterated [ __ ] the second major difference is you have political cover from the very top the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged remember that January 6 was the culmination of two months of a propagation of a big lie and of conspiracy theories by the president of the United States 20 thirds of House Republicans go along with Trump and vote to overturn the electors on the evening of January 6th we a United States Senator and members of the House of Representatives object to the counting of the electoral votes of the state of Pennsylvania Madam speaker I Rise to support the objection Madam speaker I Rise to support the objection Madam speaker I Rise to support the objection Madam chair I vigorously support this objection and I in a vote that has always been thought to be ceremonial and minister IAL where you accept the Electoral College results which were in no serious way contested I mean that's almost as astounding as what happened in terms of the Insurrection how can so many people believe that it was unfair it was because their president said it was unfair their Senator said it was unfair their member of Congress said it was unfair a full audit is absolutely necessary we should get injunctions if necessary and normally those are people that the electric can have faith in I Rise for myself and 60 of my colleag to object to the counting of the Electoral ballots from Arizona is the objection in writing and signed by a senator yes it is it is but it is not just the big lie that appears to have captured much of the Republican Party Congressman Denver rlan lost his party's nomination over the weekend the first term Congressman was ousted by former Liberty University employee Bob good getting run out of the Republican party was really interesting I believe I was the first one that was affected by Q conspiracy theories when I didn't even know it I had conducted a same-sex wedding in summer of 2019 two guys who had worked for me or volunteered and then I started hearing these weird things I'm funded by George Soros I'm a secret Jew I'm a secret Dem I'm trying to change the sexual orientation of children I'm a tool of the Antichrist and I'm hearing all this I'm like this is sounds like New World Order crazy stuff you know the anti-semitic tropes you had better wake up and understand that there are people then I started doing my own research and I'm pretty good at it and uh I saw some of the same patterns that you saw with foreign terrorists you know and when you chased Isis or alada or IED resupply from Iraq into Iran you know i' I've seen some things and uh what I saw was that people were using language uh in the open that I I thought we would never see As Americans my two decades of intelligence War fighting and counterterrorism experience coupled with serving in the 116th Congress is why I will not allow conspiracy peders to hijack our ability to conduct reasonable policy discussions for the betterment of all Americans I was pretty much drummed out and censured for following the law and trying to save this country and uh I'm not I don't think I'm overstating that if one of our two parties is committed to an orwellian whitewashing of hist history if you didn't know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit is committed to propagating or at least not quarreling with a big lie uh the big lie the big lie is a lot of [ __ ] that's what it is is committed to not quarreling much with conspiracy theories is committed to purging those Republicans at the state and local level and at the national level who want to fight back against the lies and the conspiracy theories that's a big deal war is literally the continuation of politics by other violent means our military forces are the part of our society that carries out that peace then we come home and the question is do we have a political system that functions or are we at a point where our own politics the politics inside our own communities the politics inside our own country can only be continued through other means and we got to be very careful because if you think you have support from the highest levels of government why aren't you fighting for your country aren't you already sort of sworn in to do this the issue is is that the people that we are identifying as extremists they're identifying as Patriots or Freedom Fighters and that is it almost sounds like I'm talking about terrorism right now one of the organizations that I'm particularly interested in uh as the Patriot front for the of our nation Liberty of our people liy for the victory of the American Spirit Victory they're producing what they refer to as propaganda they're studying books on fascism because they believe democracy has failed and their vision for the future is a dominant white race that has captured the Republican party and has defeated their political opponents by violence or by exclusion these guys showed up in Philadelphia on the 4th of July 2021 and assaulted a bunch of people nothing came of it cuz the local cops didn't know what the hell were they were dealing with so this is a fascist gang who's operating all around the country police and say they prevented a possible domestic terror attack over the weekend 31 men were arrested all dressed alike allegedly on their way to wreak haveit at a pride event in the city of cordelan cordelan is just a few miles north of Hayden Lake and the Patriot front following in the footsteps of Lewis beam had made it a base of operations and in the same way Denver WLAN had been targeted by qanon for officiating a gay wedding Q's rhetoric casting the LG B btq Community as groomers and pedophiles helped put them squarely in the sights of the white nationalist Patriot front while the proud boys the oathkeepers the 3centers are a threat the ones that I'm really afraid of are the Gen Z ones the service members who have served during a time of relative peace these young people who joined to fight never got a chance to fight and who starting in conservative Echo Chambers online have been brought into the proud boy to fascist pipeline so gab is an alternative social media platform that was created to be a safe space for neo-nazis one of the groups on here is the national Justice party this is a Neo-Nazi party within the United States whose goal is to use protests to radicalize Trump supporters into explicit white supremacy they're developing new and original propaganda that paint them in a light of achieving the power the ability to shape politics and engage in violence in a way that they thought they were going to get from the military they understand how to recruit people into that lifestyle so right here this is an Italian Maye frgo uh I don't care that was the slogan of of the fascist party under melini so what they're trying to do is make white nationalism look like it's testosterone filled way to be a man I believe that these Young Veterans who getting out and joining things like patriate front and nationalist socialist club and the word Nazi is nationalist socialist I think that the Republican party is is you know more than capable of adopting that IDE ideology in a way that that's unfathomable even to me you know I I never saw us where we are today I I think another four years things could be far worse I think the worst case scenario is probably worse than most of us want to imagine I could see a civil war because this is the same movement we've been dealing with this whole time it's reasonable to assume that what we can see is only about half of the activity that there is an underground that is in violent action training in camps trying to accumulate weapons and preparing for violence when you talk about Civil War or specific sectors of the country that could go kinetic just go to these areas where you see the first big far-left protest when Republicans take back the house boom if there's anybody out there from antifa our black lives matters spend your first [ __ ] bullet up my chest okay or if Republicans think that one of the state elections were stolen boom forget right in your legislators you got to do something it's it's We the People you're going to have to take my life there's no way I'll die on this hill there's no way no way all of this can happen who's to say that if a legislation came down where we l our Second Amendment tomorrow that that wouldn't start a civil war to be honest with you I don't know of any veteran that wants wool in this country but at the very same time when you look back to what our founding fathers wanted for this country we are so far away from that today it's just something they're ready for and their gun safe is full if you're prepared you're prepared and if you're not you're not if you're armed then you're somewhat prepared to defend your family and yourself if you're not armed you're dog meate there's imminent Civil War if we don't fix our elections and actually make them Bonafide again we don't have 2024 there is no 2024 but it is the election of 2024 that opens up a different front one that is potenti as dangerous as a violent Civil War there are people in this movement who believe that the nation cannot be saved as it is and must be overthrown in order to make way for a white ethnostate and then there are probably people in this movement who think aha there's an opening here to run for office and mount a sort of coup from inside in order to change the very nature of the nation you know I worry about scenarios in which you know in 2024 uh one party controls Congress the other party wins a presidential election Congress refuses to certify the election the Republican party has a pretty systematic plan to have state legislator impose themselves much more directly into the certification of electors to perhaps also suppress some democratic votes along the way so I do think the chances of a real attempt to overturn a legitimate election results are not nothing and they're not tiny and then somebody as president or people that are elected that aren't do aren't there in a in a legal way and then that's when The Descent happens and that's the end of our country and our legal norms and that scares the hell out of me this country you as individuals with the individual liberties and individual rights that you have you need to start assuming risk for your neighborhoods and your communities in your towns you have to get involved General Flynn's ultimate plan is to undermine democracy is to get his digital soldiers to radicalize the rest of the Republican base go run for dog catcher if you don't like this who's running your school board go run for the school board if you don't like who's running your little town or your little Parish go get involved if Flynn can convince his followers to push enough good people out of government they'll beat us into submission I don't want guys like disgraced former General Michael Flynn to be deciding who's an American and who's not General Flynn do you believe the violence on January 6th was justified I said I I said because their movement is about excluding others it's not about the will of the people it's about suppressing opposition it's about power General Flynn do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the United States of America that's fa this is how countries Fall Apart part of my experience as a veteran and as somebody who's worked with refugees and done human rights work I know what happens when the center cannot hold and a and a society falls apart I know what happens when your ethnic Identity or your in-group outgroup membership becomes a life and death issue and when Neighbors start killing each other I've seen it and whatever your Twitter bravado about the next civil war is nobody wants to see that I mean that is the road to Hell the very worst case scenario is that we slide to authoritarians that we are not able to climb out of this we have seen this happen over and over and over again in other countries we have seen them fight back against the first wave and not be ready for the second and not be ready for the third this is a this is going to take a long time and it's going to take everything we have to make sure that our democracy is still standing at the end of it I hope that people are [ __ ] scared because being scared motivates people and I I want you to be scared by what's true and I want you to look at evidence I you to think critically and do everything within your power and within the uh confines of of the law to make sure that we don't live in that dystopian future that could just be a few years away I went to my son's grave site and I just felt so helpless it made me angry that my son's sacrifice almost felt like it was in vain now I've refocused and I had to take a look at it I had to do a lot of soul searching to understand that that's not the case [Music] case and this fight is not over it's far from over and it may never be over but his sacrifice is not in vain my service service of everyone else of all Americans regardless of your wore a uniform as long as you got up in the morning you just try to do the right thing it's not in vain what if every Young American did national service for a year maybe in uniform but not necessarily what if they didn't in health care conservation education how would they feel about each other at the end of that by experience we know you almost always feel different more tightly you break down many of your preconceived prejudices against other groups trust starts to build in 2013 I first applied to my local Community College having had my military experience turn turn out so negative I'll be honest my confidence was destroyed and I was like terrified of registering for classes because I was terrified of failure and I went over the course of my first semester at Nassau Community College fulfilling a lot of bad stereotypes about veterans you know coming in having my headphones on having my hoodie over my head kind of just like sitting down not talking to anybody not engaging and a group of student veterans at my Community College identified that that recognized that it was a problem and helped to break me up my shell I went from being that guy who doesn't talk to anybody and sits in the corner to being elected to represent all of the student Veterans of my school student Veterans of Nassau is a chapter of student Veterans of America it's a National Organization focused on basically easing people in the transition from combat to college to careers one of the things that the veteran Center does is it allows for us to kind of get back into an environment that we're familiar with it gives us a sense of camaraderie that we really miss from the military it's not something that happened overnight but it set me on the path towards recovery and rather than feel like the future was predetermined by these powerful groups and that there was nothing that I could do in fight against them I started to accept the idea of maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle and because most of my interactions with the outside world were in person person to person I wasn't as easily able to seek out an echo chamber that didn't challenge my opinions that only reinforced my beliefs that diversity of opinion is what kept me from you know joining the oathkeepers when it first sprang up that helped to break me out of it a lot of veterans getting out they don't have that opportunity we're in a different world in this new world our troops have to be trained to not only defend themselves against a Chinese sniper or a Russian tank but against enemy disinformation campaigns on the Internet it's also true that disinformation is not just coming from China and Russia we know how to combat malicious misinformation we did a pretty good job teaching soldiers and citizens how to not fall for Nazi propaganda we did a pretty good job teaching soldiers citizens how to not fall for communist propaganda all through the Cold War the problem with that of course is that you know opposition to the Nazis was a goal shared by both political parties in America opposition to the Soviet Union was a goal shared by most across the political Spectrum in America right now this conflict you know it's far too partisan it's far too divisive and it's far too politicized we know how to do this but it takes unity and this is a layer cake of problems this is something that does not just exist at a DOD policy level this is about how journalists talk about the movement how our laws prosecute the movement how our national leaders direct their time and attention we know that there is a lack of political will to establish or to create a domestic terrorism law yet I think there is a big possibility that we can designate these groups as International terrorist organizations so what that means we can take all the rules the laws the authorities that the FBI and other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have to go after them the same way we go after International terrorist organizations who's paid a price who's paid a price for being a conspiratorial irresponsible demagogic extremist with the exception of a few true believers who were just duped and taken in and foolishly believed all this stuff most of them are going about going along doing fine voters need to decide whether they are comfortable with those who inight violence representing them and movements like this end when the entire population decides that they are unacceptable we haven't seen that [Music] yet so the ideal solution is deradicalization but that's not something something I'm interested in I'm interested in Justice and I'm interested in imposing costs on people are trying to hurt America and Americans all I think about all day is finding bad guys and hoping that they end up in jail documenting any potentially criminal Behavior documenting things that if they're not illegal society would frown upon and ultimately it's to put a cost behind being in Insurgent within the United States I'm a Nazi Hunter but it doesn't mean we're going to win and that's what I want to tell people this good doesn't always Triumph but I do believe the oath means something and I know that I'm going directly against people who think that they also are honoring their oath in the same way and that's why I think this makes this dangerous but what's enabling that Schism to happen is the LIE which world of Truth do you live in it's not about commitment to country that's shared so the only way back to get back together the only the only possibility of reconciliation is a conversation that can occur in you know in an environment of Truth we can either reconcile with with each other as a country or we can have a conflict where do I want America to go not here not where we're at this path we're on will kill us it'll kill this country it'll kill Freedom it'll kill our camaraderie it'll kill our compassion and our human decency for each other what I'd like to see is for the people on both sides all come together and agree on going by the truth only if we can do that then this nation can be Salvage do I see that happening no I don't I can hope though [Music] [Music] is [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]