[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.88,0:00:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GABRIEL OROZCO: I like to work here. Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.48,0:00:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to walk. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.67,0:00:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wakes me up. Just a few blocks of \Nwalking can happen many things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.08,0:00:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I like to observe these \Nthings, and to enjoy them. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.64,0:00:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The camera is an instrument \Nthat I use to, as a way of, Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.92,0:00:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an excuse to look at these things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.24,0:00:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the camera is a way of awareness. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.76,0:00:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when I was a kid, Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.84,0:01:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember the streets that I walked in Mexico, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.28,0:01:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going from my house to school. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.68,0:01:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can remember all the puddles in between, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.28,0:01:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the accidents in the sidewalk. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.90,0:01:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always liked this, to look at this. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.56,0:01:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t have a studio, so I don’t \Nhave a specific place of production. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.32,0:01:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found that sometimes the \Nstudio’s an isolated place, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.48,0:01:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an artificial place, like a bubble. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.96,0:01:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That I’m not so interested because \NI think it gets out of reality. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.96,0:01:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happen when you don’t have a studio Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.31,0:01:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you have to be confronted \Nwith reality all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.32,0:01:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to be in the street, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.36,0:01:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to walk around, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.24,0:01:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to be outdoors. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.80,0:01:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to be intimate with everything I can. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.00,0:02:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be intimate you have to open yourself Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.28,0:02:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to trust what is around you. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.72,0:02:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you generate signs \Nof intimacy with these things. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.84,0:02:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then all the other people can have \Nthat same relationship with the world. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.96,0:02:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t have a technique, I have \Nmany different ways to work. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.08,0:02:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I finish something, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.44,0:02:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I need to invent something else, Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.12,0:02:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a different medium, in a different place. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.72,0:03:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This Citroen is not just \Na car, it’s a special car, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.84,0:03:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and charged with significance \Nbecause it’s a cultural object. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.84,0:03:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it’s not just an icon because it’s \Nalso a machine that has a function. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.52,0:03:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to remake it on it’s own logic, Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.60,0:03:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are at the same time analyzing this icon Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.00,0:03:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that it becomes something active again. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.40,0:03:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I did it with one assistant. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.36,0:03:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cutting it together, we worked \Nfor a month in a garage. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.49,0:03:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was quite intimate work, it was very nice. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.76,0:03:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a lot of work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.84,0:03:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I extracted the center and put it back together. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.08,0:03:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On one side, laterally, you \Nsee it like a normal car Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.81,0:03:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then when you walk around you \Nhave the perspective distorted. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.08,0:04:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, I wrote something, which \Nwill read something like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.36,0:04:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"transport system beyond the vanishing point."" Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.04,0:04:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, also these are more \Nlike, organic drawings, just loose. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.41,0:04:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the real drawing was in the car itself. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.76,0:04:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you have to make the line very \Nprecise and that took like a week. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.88,0:04:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can keep cutting it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.20,0:04:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can do another cut and another cut Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.13,0:04:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and another cut until infinite \Nand you will never finish. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.50,0:04:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MARIA GUTIERREZ DE OROZCO: He had \Nto come to the supermarket with me Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.76,0:04:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help carry stuff back, but of course there, Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.00,0:04:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he started playing with the food, Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.60,0:04:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he was bored about me reading \Nall the labels and the ingredients. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.20,0:05:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He realized what an ordered, \Nperfect world the supermarket is, Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.32,0:05:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he realized the minute you put it back Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.12,0:05:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it’s not it’s place there’s \Nthis chaos that generates just from Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.56,0:05:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,putting something that’s not right and you \Nfeel immediately that something is wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.02,0:05:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s when he brought the \Npotatoes with the notebooks Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.92,0:05:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he put the cat food with the watermelon. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.68,0:05:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s actually all very banal with him, there's little mystery Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.32,0:05:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s all very basic. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.56,0:05:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s just this incredible curiousity that he takes for granted that suddenly he gets fascinated. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.67,0:05:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GABRIEL OROZCO: What I like about games is that Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.36,0:05:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a game is a thing on it’s own. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.64,0:06:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you have a little world in \Nthis board or in this table, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.12,0:06:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designed to perfection so \Nyou can play in a landscape Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.28,0:06:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when it is a good game, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.84,0:06:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s so passionate that you can really \Nget into this world and just live in it. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.04,0:06:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you have normal ping pong game Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.16,0:06:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a net which is a \Nnon space between two spaces. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.00,0:06:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But instead of two people playing you \Nhave four people playing in four tables, Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.20,0:06:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you open that space so the net is open. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.00,0:06:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what you have there is a new space. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.16,0:06:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is the space I am interested in, Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.08,0:06:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the in- between space. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.84,0:06:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it’s a new space I \Ncould do anything I wanted. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.60,0:06:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided to make a pond. Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.92,0:06:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will say it’s just an arbitrary decision, Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.20,0:06:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then if you want to connect \Nthat with the pond in Indian culture Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.32,0:06:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and relate it with the lotus flower \Nand the beginning of the universe Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.04,0:07:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the pond as the center of the universe, Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.92,0:07:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.56,0:07:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day I saw the Foucault Pendulum, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.16,0:07:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as you know it’s the way that \Nwas proved that the earth moves. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.36,0:07:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you have this pendulum \Nhanging from very high Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.28,0:07:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is constantly moving \Nbecause the earth is rotating. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.60,0:07:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I decided, ‘What happens if one of \Nthe balls in the billiard is a pendulum?’ Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.12,0:07:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then also instead of \Nhaving a rectangular table, Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.64,0:07:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided to have an elliptical \Ntable or an oval table. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.64,0:07:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then we will play more \Ncloser to laws of the universe. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.92,0:07:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In billiards, because it’s rectangular, Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.40,0:07:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can calculate how the ball is going to bounce. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.52,0:08:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in this case when the ball \Nstarts to touch this oval, Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.32,0:08:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it just starts to bounce around, around, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.20,0:08:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then just gets lost totally. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.64,0:08:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway it’s a totally different game and, and, Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.12,0:08:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it’s more complex in many ways. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.16,0:08:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s also much more boring \Nthan a normal billiard game, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.44,0:08:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but uh, and also I didn’t put any rules except Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.28,0:08:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basic rules of hitting \Ntwo balls with your own ball. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.48,0:08:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people play it. I play it sometimes.\NAnd the rules, they have to be invented. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.36,0:08:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to use the tools that everyone can use. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.60,0:08:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t want to be a specialist. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.20,0:08:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A technique, that is very difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.08,0:08:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prefer to be a beginner. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.08,0:09:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to learn how to fix cars \Nand then I did the Citroen. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.76,0:09:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I’m not an expert in cars. Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.32,0:09:08.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even I think sometimes when I do, like ceramics, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.20,0:09:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s like a hobby for me, I think. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.04,0:09:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s more like well I like ceramics, it’s nice, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.44,0:09:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to learn a little bit. It’s \Nexactly how you define a hobby. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.64,0:09:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Normally when you do potteries Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.16,0:09:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are very much aware of \Nthis empty center space. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.20,0:09:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case I was not so interested \Nin the center but as a mask. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.96,0:09:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For that reason I need a clay that was special. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.32,0:09:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this workshop used to \Nbe a brick factory before; Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.76,0:09:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have these machines to \Nproduce clay that I need very fast. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.20,0:09:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in one day you can do a whole amount of hours Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.24,0:10:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost like a worker doing a mechanical thing, Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.68,0:10:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for me that was important. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.28,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thinking process is related \Nwith the ball in many ways. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.52,0:10:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be moving in a train or \Nto be looking at the ocean. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.00,0:10:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be working with my hands \Nwith the clay and very physical. Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.96,0:10:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All generates a stimulus in \Nthe brain and you are thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.60,0:10:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the connection between \Nthe brain and the breathing Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.44,0:10:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the sweating and the time that you spend Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.32,0:11:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how you slow down thinking \Nor you accelerate thinking— Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.80,0:11:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just generate the \Ndifferent aspects of thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.72,0:11:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I feel that it should be \Nready is a quite subjective thing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.76,0:11:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s just that the shape should \Nrepresent what just happened before. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.40,0:11:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pottery’s a very complex \Ninstrument in human history. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.29,0:11:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be related to Mexico if you want, Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.08,0:11:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it can be related with Greece, Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.72,0:11:41.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it can be related with everybody in the world Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.76,0:11:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because pottery is just part of history. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.76,0:12:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The division between work and \Neveryday life is very strong. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.80,0:12:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Mexico it’s the same. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.24,0:12:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that space in between work \Nand life is the space that is Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.24,0:12:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very hard to negotiate for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.72,0:12:36.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Leisure time or pleasure time or knowledge time Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.80,0:12:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or research time or, that space that is left over Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.72,0:12:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the important thing is to work, Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.84,0:12:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then to sustain your life or something. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.04,0:12:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then all the spaces in between are a bit lost. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.00,0:12:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So every citizen has to fight for those spaces. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.64,0:13:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you live and work in the same place, Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.24,0:13:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything is part of the work. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.64,0:13:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every furniture is important, every little thing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.40,0:13:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even the trash. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.72,0:14:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The contradiction that I have is that \Nwhen I say I don’t want to produce things, Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.76,0:14:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the same time there is this necessity \Nof producing signs of communication, Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.12,0:14:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of mirror of what I’m doing. Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.30,0:14:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe it’s an obsession of building \Nbridges of communication with other people.