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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.32,0:00:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CARD SHUFFLES]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.94,0:00:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a joker.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.06,0:00:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh-hmm.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.79,0:00:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.04,0:00:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to take the joker.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.21,0:00:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to wave it on\Ntop of the jack of spades,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.60,0:00:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I touch it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.33,0:00:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I have the jack of\Nspades and you have?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.04,0:00:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joker.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.78,0:00:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hah.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.01,0:00:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Alex Conran.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.93,0:00:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since childhood,\NI've been fascinated
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.94,0:00:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by gambling and by cards.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.03,0:00:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It got me a job presenting\NThe Real Hustle, which
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.91,0:00:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warns people about how\Nto avoid getting conned.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.12,0:00:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all a bit ironic if\Nyou know about my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.51,0:00:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was a\Ngambling addict, who
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.79,0:00:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turned into a conman and a\Nfraudster and ended up in jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.89,0:00:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what was this urge that\Ndrove my dad away from me?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.58,0:00:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His been a life of\Ngambling and crime,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.61,0:00:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but might I be\Nunder its spell too?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.10,0:00:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if I did\Nhave that problem,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.84,0:00:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would make me one of up to\Nhalf a million people in the UK
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.44,0:00:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,estimated to be\Nproblem gamblers.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.33,0:00:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CARD FLIPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.96,0:00:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.96,0:00:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that number is rising.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.60,0:00:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SLOT MACHINE BEEPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.83,0:00:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the most you've\Never lost in a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.68,0:01:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.82,0:01:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 grand.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.82,0:01:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 grand in a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.58,0:01:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or in 20 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.23,0:01:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The machine has\Nbeen in my life more
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.30,0:01:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than anybody else\Nhas been in my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.98,0:01:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've become best friends\Nwith a machine that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.63,0:01:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes your money?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.48,0:01:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.19,0:01:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their brains really\Nare different.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.59,0:01:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something different\Nhappens when they gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.27,0:01:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this film is\Na journey to find
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.31,0:01:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why a fun pastime\Nfor some people
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.01,0:01:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can become a compulsion or\Neven an addiction for others.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.20,0:01:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd like an answer to\Nthe one question I want
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.14,0:01:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask my dad, Dimitri, why?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.66,0:01:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASINO CHIPS CLINKS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.58,0:01:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blackjack.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.11,0:01:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.61,0:01:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.04,0:01:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLACKS]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.54,0:01:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.02,0:01:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gambling surrounds me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.32,0:01:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each one of my jackets has\Ngot a deck of cards in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.14,0:01:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time I'm thinking\Nor I'm talking,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.76,0:01:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I'm talking on\Nthe phone, every now
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.68,0:01:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I'll get people going,\N"Are you shuffling cards?"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.90,0:01:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CARD SHUFFLES]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.47,0:02:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found, when we\Nworked on conning people
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.80,0:02:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in The Real Hustle, that I\Nwas a natural at that too.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.15,0:02:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I'm the\Ngeneral manager here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.02,0:02:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So has anyone to talk\Nto you about cons?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.02,0:02:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what they're here for--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.70,0:02:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a winning ticket\Nnow worth over $300.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.42,0:02:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.92,0:02:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.24,0:02:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll be right back.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.78,0:02:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Little did they\Nknow, they'll never
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.31,0:02:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that pan, the helpful\Nmanager, or their winnings
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.24,0:02:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever again.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.00,0:02:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.63,0:02:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So maybe that's something\NI inherited from my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.83,0:02:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, he became a conman\Nto feed a huge gambling habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.15,0:02:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately, it drove him\Naway from me, leaving me
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.30,0:02:37.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my mom when\NI was only seven.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.94,0:02:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's now in jail in Greece,\Nand I've not had any contact
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.73,0:02:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with him for 20 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.16,0:02:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hardly know my dad,\Nbut because of the chaos
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.07,0:02:49.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he brought to our lives,\NI've always blamed him.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.55,0:02:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never wanted him in my life or\Neven in the life of my family.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.38,0:02:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By not wanting to contact his\Ndad, he's protecting himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.68,0:03:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's protecting his mom or the\Nother family members who were
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.03,0:03:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,affected by it, and us I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.64,0:03:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I've always\Nwondered, what was
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.52,0:03:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so strong about that compulsion\Nthat made him give up
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.85,0:03:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on his wife, his family, on me?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.16,0:03:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what exactly have\NI inherited from him?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.01,0:03:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've clearly got his\Nability to con people,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.79,0:03:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so could I also be at risk of\Nbecoming a problem gambler too?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.50,0:03:29.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an important\Nissue for him--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.83,0:03:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that he has\Nto work through somehow.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.75,0:03:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there's so\Nmany questions that he
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.19,0:03:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs to answer for himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.79,0:03:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's just trying to\Nfind an explanation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.59,0:03:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guess talking\Nto other people
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.80,0:03:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will have a very restorative\Nand positive effect on him.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.30,0:03:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BIRD CAWS]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.80,0:03:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.26,0:03:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.23,0:03:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BEACH WAVES]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.20,0:03:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So where to start?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.39,0:04:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does the occasional\Nflutter turn into a daily fix?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.65,0:04:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like other\Naddictions, the answer
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.48,0:04:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be frighteningly\Nearly, and for many, it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.93,0:04:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starts in places like this--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.09,0:04:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a seaside arcade with\Nmachines like these.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.78,0:04:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.74,0:04:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.19,0:04:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I probably appeals to our\Nvery basic sort of emotions,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.66,0:04:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, flashing lights--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.78,0:04:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.28,0:04:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--these buttons, these\Nthings happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.35,0:04:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to keep you\Nmore entertained,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.44,0:04:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to keep you more\Ninvolved in the game.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.13,0:04:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you've got different options\Ndifferent ways of making money.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.37,0:04:43.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's no longer just\Nwaiting for that spin.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.39,0:04:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gives you the perception\Nthat you're actually
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.38,0:04:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more in control.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.85,0:04:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of these machines here,\Nyou can win up to 500 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.30,0:04:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go across the\Nroad to the bookies,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.64,0:04:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fixed odds\Nbetting terminals.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.80,0:04:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can pay a 100\Npounds a spin, and those
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.40,0:05:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the crack cocaine of fruit\Nmachines for gambling addicts.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.19,0:05:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.00,0:05:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SLOT MACHINE BEEPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.88,0:05:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These machines do\Nnothing for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.59,0:05:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prefer poker, but\Nthey can be very
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.04,0:05:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,addictive for some young people.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.35,0:05:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They got Andres\Nhooked as a teenager.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.02,0:05:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he works on a stall in\None of Blackpool's piers,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.96,0:05:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he started gambling\Nage 12, and he now
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.23,0:05:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spends in excess of\N25 grand a year on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.25,0:05:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you say you\Ngamble every day?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.99,0:05:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.68,0:05:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day of your life?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.64,0:05:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.02,0:05:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a week, how\Nmuch do you reckon
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.72,0:05:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you spend it on gambling?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.03,0:05:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least 500.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.49,0:05:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,500 pound a week?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.43,0:05:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.96,0:05:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Playing the roulette 21 cards--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.47,0:05:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was 15.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.85,0:05:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I lied about my age.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.00,0:05:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said I was 18.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.75,0:05:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got away with it and\Nthey found the age out
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.62,0:05:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by 18, but then\Nby that time, they
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.77,0:05:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't do anything about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.09,0:05:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the most you've\Never lost in a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.84,0:05:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.10,0:05:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 grand.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.27,0:06:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 grand in a day?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.02,0:06:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or in 20 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.07,0:06:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 20 minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.90,0:06:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.40,0:06:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.90,0:06:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roulette.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.66,0:06:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, those machines?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.58,0:06:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Machines.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.08,0:06:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is it\Nabout those machines
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.56,0:06:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you like gambling on like\Nfixed odd betting machines?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.15,0:06:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it about\Nthem that you prefer?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.73,0:06:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.80,0:06:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The roulettes?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.94,0:06:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.44,0:06:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a quick money, isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.76,0:06:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quick.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.70,0:06:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once I won 10 grand within the\Nspace of what, three minutes.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.12,0:06:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very, very lot\Nof money, ain't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.83,0:06:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To win in a three minutes?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.22,0:06:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just literally watching, I won.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.51,0:06:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with my mom, she's\Ngone to fetch her winnings
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.22,0:06:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Irish Lotteries.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.46,0:06:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I've had\N2 pound in change,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.68,0:06:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and end up just walking\Nout with 10 grand.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.61,0:06:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How quickly did you lose that\N10 grand after you won it?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.25,0:06:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within a week.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.06,0:06:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within a week?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.66,0:06:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Week
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.93,0:06:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a half.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.26,0:06:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think about\Nit all the time?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.72,0:06:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.25,0:06:39.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Always?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.93,0:06:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every night, you go\Nhome, and you spend
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.64,0:06:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much money you spend on.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.93,0:06:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can actually\Nwin from gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.03,0:06:45.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I win every day.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.95,0:06:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just about walking away.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.40,0:06:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.21,0:06:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about saying\Nno to the addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.95,0:06:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.45,0:06:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not going to\Ngambling anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.99,0:06:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've made enough money now.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.72,0:06:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to stop gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.19,0:06:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.73,0:06:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want--
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.39,0:06:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INAUDIBLE]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.05,0:06:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to stop me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.24,0:07:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's killing me slowly.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.35,0:07:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.78,0:07:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[REELING]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.17,0:07:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BELL RINGS]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.60,0:07:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.95,0:07:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can play a machine with a\Njackpot of up to five pounds
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.82,0:07:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a child in the UK.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.92,0:07:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes us one of\Nthe few countries
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.72,0:07:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the developed world\Nthat allows kids to gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.37,0:07:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Five pounds, it's quite\Na lot to 12-year-olds.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.09,0:07:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you grow up with a sort\Nof, oh, gambling's fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.55,0:07:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's tolerated.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.05,0:07:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could do it with\Nmy mom and dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.98,0:07:33.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When people talk\Nabout drugs, they
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.40,0:07:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about a ladder\Nof addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.96,0:07:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Softer drugs leading to\Nmore hardcore class A drugs.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.80,0:07:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we should take the\Nsame view about gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.38,0:07:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Penny falls, one armed bandits,\Nlarger jackpot machines,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.28,0:07:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally the ones\Nin the bookmakers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.86,0:07:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can bet\N100 pounds a spin.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.36,0:07:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.00,0:07:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While I was in\NBlackpool, I met Darren.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.73,0:07:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says those gambling\Nmachines in the bookies
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.77,0:07:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have wrecked his life.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.38,0:08:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He spent six months\Nin a homeless hostel,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.25,0:08:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's now trying to get\Nhis life back on track.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.02,0:08:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was chasing the numbers\Non the machine, basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.68,0:08:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I put in every\Nsingle penny of my money.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.66,0:08:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a partner for five\Nyears, but she left me
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.72,0:08:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of gambling, basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.01,0:08:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was getting tired of those.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.30,0:08:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'll put full time and\Nnot thinking about shopping
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.44,0:08:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.55,0:08:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't see nothing else\Nbut gambling was my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.77,0:08:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.27,0:08:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would wake up in\Nthe morning, any money
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.16,0:08:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I have in my pocket, I'll\Ngo straight to the pot makers.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.12,0:08:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I could be in there from\N9 o'clock in the morning
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.33,0:08:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until 8 o'clock at night.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.69,0:08:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about\Nthe money no more.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.33,0:08:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it's not about the money.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.54,0:08:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about winning.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.50,0:08:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it about now?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.72,0:08:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just about playing the machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.30,0:08:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The machine to me is my\Nbest friend in a way.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.80,0:08:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I feel like\Nthe machines right there.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.94,0:08:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The machine had been\Nthere in my life
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.38,0:08:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than anyone else\Nhas been in my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.19,0:08:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That machine had been\Nthere more than anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.56,0:08:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INAUDIBLE]
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.09,0:08:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you think you've spent--
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.23,0:08:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've become best friends\Nwith a machine that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.15,0:08:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes your money?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.96,0:09:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.70,0:09:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can go in without 40\Nquid, 50 quid sometimes,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.84,0:09:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I can lose it straightaway.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.61,0:09:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could go with over\N2 pound, [INAUDIBLE]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.58,0:09:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can get over 200\Npounds right away.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.64,0:09:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you do with that\Nmoney once you get it?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.60,0:09:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you walk away?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.55,0:09:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Half of the time, I don't.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.20,0:09:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use it to go back in with.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.50,0:09:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always got it in the\Nmind to go back in with.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.94,0:09:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got myself into about\N15 to 18 grand worth of debt
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.80,0:09:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of it as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.00,0:09:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you currently have 18\Ngrand's worth of debt.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.33,0:09:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About 18 grand worth of debt.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.54,0:09:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's your general\Nattitude towards gambling?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.65,0:09:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll get you nowhere in life.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.45,0:09:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get you life.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.99,0:09:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me, I'm only younger.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.55,0:09:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I'm sweating free.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.66,0:09:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had it all.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.11,0:09:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no one else.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.88,0:09:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a lovely\Npartner at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.65,0:09:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have two dogs.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.75,0:09:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did pretty all right\Nbut now, I got nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.06,0:09:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.85,0:09:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.56,0:09:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is for you, gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.00,0:09:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.87,0:09:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The good thing about\NDarren is he wants to quit.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.21,0:10:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knows it's dragging him\Ndown and ruining his life.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.62,0:10:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's intelligent enough to\Nknow that but stopping is
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.80,0:10:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really hard.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.46,0:10:10.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all aware\Nof the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.07,0:10:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all think that they\Ncan beat those machines.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.65,0:10:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.41,0:10:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.33,0:10:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never thought\Nthat, but maybe that's
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.58,0:10:22.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how my dad feels about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.86,0:10:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when he got hooked, gambling\Nwas far less widely available
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.55,0:10:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than today.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.93,0:10:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's not just fruit machines\Nand roulette and bookies,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.48,0:10:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's football betting, scratch\Ncards, the national lottery.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.33,0:10:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're a potential\Nproblem gambler,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.58,0:10:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a simple trick down\Nthe high street
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.23,0:10:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be like running the\Ngold load of temptation.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.12,0:10:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.78,0:10:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here we are.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.42,0:10:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're on the Main Street.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.46,0:10:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're in Hackney.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.48,0:10:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Hackney is got quite\Nhigh unemployment level.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.67,0:10:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite a poor\Nburrow, and yet
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.35,0:10:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this high street\Nthat we're standing on,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.99,0:11:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are eight betting shops\Nwith plans to build more.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.01,0:11:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the back there, you see the\Nchurch, the building next to it
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.85,0:11:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the Hackney old town hall\Nwhich is no longer a town hall.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.63,0:11:11.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a bookies.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.59,0:11:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old cornerstone\Nof the community
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.48,0:11:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here, the town hall, the center\Nwhere everybody used to come
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.32,0:11:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things used to\Nhappen, is now a bookies.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.59,0:11:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.86,0:11:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to put\Ncynical ideas out,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.38,0:11:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm kind of thinking it's\Na very, very poor high street.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.07,0:11:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very, very high unemployment and\Nyou've got eight cookies here.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.03,0:11:40.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would wager that if you\Nwent to Kensington, Chelsea,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.04,0:11:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to more affluent areas,\Nyou'd maybe find one, maybe two.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.23,0:11:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now why is that?
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.88,0:11:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's pawnbrokers\Nover there, betting shop
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.05,0:11:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just 100 yards away,\Nbut you can't tell me
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.37,0:11:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that is not somehow\Ncatering to people
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.19,0:11:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have this addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.48,0:12:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why are we doing that?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.01,0:12:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are we letting people pawn\Ntheir stuff and go in there
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.46,0:12:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bet it?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.17,0:12:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are we leaving the\Ndoor open to people
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.30,0:12:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've got that problem?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.26,0:12:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.90,0:12:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it matters because we\Nknow if you're susceptible
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.18,0:12:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just like other addictions,\Nstopping is no simple matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.88,0:12:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You been to Las Vegas?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.86,0:12:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.36,0:12:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.86,0:12:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.76,0:12:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've come to Peterborough\Nto meet Gareth,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.95,0:12:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,28-year-old, working in sales,\Nand his mother Isabelle.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.19,0:12:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Together, they're\Ntrying to help Gareth do
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.85,0:12:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what my dad couldn't and quit.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.82,0:12:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would literally go\Ninto work, fill my diary
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.05,0:12:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with fake appointments, and\Nthen walk to the bookies.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.15,0:12:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't eat.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.96,0:12:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't drink.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.70,0:12:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would just be there\Nand all that would be
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.24,0:12:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be me and this\Nmachine, if you like.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.22,0:12:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You feed in notes.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.18,0:12:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not even considering\Nlike each 20 pound
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.09,0:12:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,note what I could buy, a tank\Nof petrol, your bills, whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.60,0:13:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't cross my mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.13,0:13:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's just a\Nfigure on a screen.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.88,0:13:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And probably in the last week\Nand a half, two weeks maximum,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.77,0:13:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've probably lost\Nabout 1,400 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.93,0:13:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.43,0:13:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I don't get paid\N1400 pounds a month.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.25,0:13:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you've put 2,000\Ngrand in a machine
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.41,0:13:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you lose and it\Ngoes in half an hour,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.90,0:13:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why does that not leave\Nyou with a sense of right,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.11,0:13:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never going\Nto do that again?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.58,0:13:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I walk out\Nof there in tears,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.69,0:13:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sick to the pit of my\Nstomach, contemplating
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.32,0:13:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all sorts of things\Nto get it back
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.36,0:13:35.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to make myself feel\Nbetter, hurting myself
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.11,0:13:37.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just have these rages.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.97,0:13:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the guilt\Nsinks in and then
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.03,0:13:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you realize what\Nyou've done, and you
Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.58,0:13:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realize how much\Nmoney you've just lost
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.92,0:13:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what you could\Nhave done with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.56,0:13:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably, if it\Nwasn't for my parents,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.14,0:13:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd be in prison or\Nnot around at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.95,0:13:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have all his money.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.53,0:13:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It goes transferred into\Nmy bank when he gets paid,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.01,0:13:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I withdraw all of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.36,0:14:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he wants\Nit, he can have it.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.55,0:14:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's different for him\Nif he's got a debit card.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.19,0:14:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not real money to him.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.68,0:14:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just a bit of plastic.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.80,0:14:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't see where it's going.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.25,0:14:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a debit card\Nor a credit card,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.45,0:14:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absolutely lethal to\Na gambler I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.73,0:14:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've borrowed money\Nto help him out.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.59,0:14:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.50,0:14:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So financially, that must\Nbe a bit of a strain.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.89,0:14:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've taken loans here.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.37,0:14:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.45,0:14:28.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the thing is if we\Ndon't, all you think is what
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.100,0:14:30.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will happen to him if we don't.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.29,0:14:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he gets so despaired.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.07,0:14:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're worried he might\Ndo something stupid,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.03,0:14:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he doesn't know how to\Nget out of this hole he's in.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.03,0:14:40.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I walked into a\Nbookies with 100 pound,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.25,0:14:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say, and I walked straight\Nin and won 200 or 300 pound,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.54,0:14:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't be happy, because\NI haven't got that fixed.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.19,0:14:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would rather go in\Nthere, being there all day
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.92,0:14:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more count maybe\N50 or 60 pound down.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.48,0:14:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me that would've\Nbeen a really good day.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.27,0:14:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd be really happy with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.61,0:15:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time he gambles\Nand loses money,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.61,0:15:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will get a text from him.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.24,0:15:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I've had\Na text when he's
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.70,0:15:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually in the bookmakers,\Nand said, help me.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.70,0:15:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've to go and got him.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.32,0:15:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I dread every text\Nmessage I get without even
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.47,0:15:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing who it's from,\Nbecause I think, not again.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.34,0:15:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I dread every text message.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.90,0:15:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It did come to a\Npoint 18 months ago
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.19,0:15:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it really, really\Ndid hit the bottom.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.88,0:15:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where it did need\Nnearly pull us apart.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.18,0:15:30.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.71,0:15:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was horrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.30,0:15:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a horrible,\Nhorrible time.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.95,0:15:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I never, ever want\Nto get through again.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.05,0:15:36.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ever.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.82,0:15:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(SADLY) It was so awful.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.00,0:15:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.88,0:15:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all right.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.51,0:15:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.06,0:15:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.81,0:15:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he starts again, he\Nstarts to get secretive.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.01,0:15:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lies.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.51,0:15:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know he's lying.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.94,0:15:50.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you say to\Nhim, are you lying?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.71,0:15:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's saying, I'm not\Ntrusting you anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.69,0:15:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he just wants to be trusted.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.39,0:15:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now if I could\Nbe gambling free,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.99,0:16:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and put my concentration\Ninto something good
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.29,0:16:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I could be a real big\Nsuccess to anything I do,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.81,0:16:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm like\NRainman with numbers
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.31,0:16:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.34,0:16:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when I went\Nto college, I gambled
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.75,0:16:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've done it ever since.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.02,0:16:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I've never had\Na period of time
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.24,0:16:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I could sit back\Nand see what I'm actually
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.24,0:16:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capable of doing as a person.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.16,0:16:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need something,\Nan instant fix.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.32,0:16:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there isn't any instant fix.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.72,0:16:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just going to go on\Nand on and on until they
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.81,0:16:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decide enough's enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.18,0:16:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it either ends\Nin the awful way,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.34,0:16:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it ends by him stopping.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.47,0:16:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.44,0:16:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.90,0:16:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.90,0:16:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happens\Nif you can't stop?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.72,0:16:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In London, I went to meet Mandy.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.33,0:16:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's not your typical\Nidea of a problem gambler.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.64,0:16:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't until her\Nmid 30s that she
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.79,0:16:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,succumbed to the lure of\Nthe high street bookmaker.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.17,0:17:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When she couldn't stop,\Nit ended, as with my dad,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.65,0:17:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this mother of\Ntwo going to jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.85,0:17:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I haven't committed\Na crime till I was 35.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.38,0:17:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a law-abiding\Ncitizen until the day I
Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.74,0:17:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.03,0:17:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that all my everything\Nwent out the window.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.37,0:17:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was shoplifting\Nto feed my habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.62,0:17:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was probably stealing\Nabout 3,000 or 4,000 pounds
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.71,0:17:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worth of goods a day.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.75,0:17:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going into a\Nsupermarket, filling up
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.57,0:17:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a trolley with booze,\Nmeat, everything,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.41,0:17:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking out with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.82,0:17:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was committing crime\N5, 6, 7 a times a day--
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.14,0:17:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To fund your habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.93,0:17:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To fund my habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.74,0:17:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end my luck run out.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.87,0:17:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And-- well, I didn't run\Nout, because I've never
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.59,0:17:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had any luck.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.13,0:17:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I got sent to\Nprison for four months.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.56,0:17:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My children went into care.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.12,0:17:47.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you gamble again after\Nyou came out of prison?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.67,0:17:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day I came out.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.54,0:17:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day you came out.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:49.53,0:17:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SLOT MACHINE ROLLING]
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.45,0:17:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I despise it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.50,0:17:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.06,0:17:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I despise gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.85,0:17:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hate it, but can't stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.88,0:17:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You still?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.99,0:18:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been in the\Nbookies this morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.51,0:18:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This morning, you have--
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.51,0:18:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been in the\Nbookies this morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.25,0:18:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you place the\Nbet this morning?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.71,0:18:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I won 70 pounds on\Nthe fog machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.82,0:18:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My opinion of it\Nis it's an illness.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:09.55,0:18:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got an illness, and\NI wish there was a cure.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.19,0:18:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.56,0:18:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The experts tell us that\N60% of problem gamblers who
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.22,0:18:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are attending Gamblers\NAnonymous in the UK
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.92,0:18:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,admit to having committed a\Ncrime to fund their habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.21,0:18:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it was with Mandy.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.96,0:18:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Mandy's trying hard to\Nhelp herself and to quit.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.28,0:18:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's in therapy, and she's\Nfilled in self exclusion forms
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.37,0:18:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at all her local bookies.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.29,0:18:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.41,0:18:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the one that you're\Na student from right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.74,0:18:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.01,0:18:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.20,0:18:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm excited for more bookies\Naround here [INAUDIBLE]
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.37,0:18:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.68,0:18:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Does it-- do you feel\Nstrange being outside of it
Dialogue: 0,0:18:54.52,0:18:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or does it--?
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.06,0:18:55.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.56,0:18:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.11,0:18:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.65,0:18:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.89,0:18:57.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's go.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.39,0:19:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.03,0:19:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is that Brooks.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.04,0:19:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spend some grim days in there.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.25,0:19:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you-- was this your\Nsort of regular haunt?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.12,0:19:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.47,0:19:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.63,0:19:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day, I used to stand\Nand wait for it to open.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.36,0:19:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you ever get approached\Nby anybody in there--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.40,0:19:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.52,0:19:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- to say-- No?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.39,0:19:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.93,0:19:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aren't you here too often?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.91,0:19:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not once has one person\Never approached me and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.93,0:19:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey, that's enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.66,0:19:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not once.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.47,0:19:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not once in 11 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.48,0:19:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have pictures\Nof armed robbers out.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.85,0:19:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have pictures\Nof problem gamblers.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.96,0:19:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.86,0:19:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having met Mandy now, several\Ntimes, she said I'm ill.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.77,0:19:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am not well.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.06,0:19:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it must be appalling to\Nhave to be to be saying that
Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.35,0:19:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people not to be listening.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.91,0:19:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are going to\Ngo, no, not really.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.80,0:19:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just have to stop\Nplaying free machines.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.29,0:19:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not as simple as that.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.58,0:20:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can't be.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.61,0:20:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People wouldn't be doing\Nthat to their lives
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.62,0:20:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it was as simple\Nas walking away.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.26,0:20:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I've ever\Nrealized until talking
Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.51,0:20:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to gamblers like Mandy just\Nhow hard it can be to quit.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.88,0:20:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it makes me think of\Nmy dad and his decision
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.32,0:20:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to leave with a\Nbit more sympathy.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.30,0:20:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.59,0:20:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom's kept most\Nof the details
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.36,0:20:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what my dad's gambling led to\Na secret for me, to protect me.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.92,0:20:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I've come to Greece where\Nshe lives, because I now want
Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.71,0:20:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand what happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.45,0:20:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.10,0:20:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't really remember\Nmuch about my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.09,0:20:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was always sort of\Nsmiling or telling a joke,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.09,0:20:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite larger than life.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.79,0:20:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents divorced\Nwhen I was seven.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.71,0:20:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the age of seven, he's\Nvery-- an absent figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.49,0:20:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I want to find\Nout what was it
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.52,0:21:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that drove very intelligent,\Nvery charming man into jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.44,0:21:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.24,0:21:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you ever play\Nbackgammon with Dimitri?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.28,0:21:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.54,0:21:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's very good.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.69,0:21:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.83,0:21:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean everybody\Nremembers jokes.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.08,0:21:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.31,0:21:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't have married him\Nand had a child with him
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.05,0:21:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he was just the\Nabsolute go to gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.30,0:21:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When did you realize\Nthat he was gambling?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.91,0:21:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It first started\Nwhen I was pregnant,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.37,0:21:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got this letter\Nfrom this woman saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.16,0:21:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope Lana has\Nsurvived the operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.46,0:21:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm reading this letter\Nlike, what operation?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.98,0:21:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is she talking about?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.06,0:21:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is this one\Nwas talking about?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.83,0:21:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I really need this 3,000\Nif you could return them.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.52,0:21:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the landlady\Ncalled me and she said,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.62,0:21:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realize you were giving\Nbirth, but we haven't received
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.29,0:21:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rent for six months.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.20,0:22:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SIGHS] I could see\Nit was gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.29,0:22:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could see that\Nit was compulsive.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.14,0:22:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did not know at the time\Nthat that was an illness.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.55,0:22:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did not know that this\Ncan be helped by specialists,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.21,0:22:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I knew that\Nthis was something
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.00,0:22:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would not finish.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.76,0:22:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My dad's gambling\Ngot worse and worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.79,0:22:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then one day, when\Nwe were living in Paris,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.58,0:22:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mom came home to the\Napartment to find a letter.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.59,0:22:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dimitri, my dad had fled.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.04,0:22:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I opened it, and I\Nread this, My dear, Lana.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.56,0:22:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you very well\Nunderstood, I've messed up.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.43,0:22:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So unfortunately, the\Nonly solution I have
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.49,0:22:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to leave France.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.62,0:22:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I owe madame Fresco--
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.85,0:22:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Madame Fresco is\Nthis poor woman whom
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.56,0:22:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were renting the\Napartment, four rents
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.35,0:23:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus the electric bill\Net cetera, et cetera.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.28,0:23:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I owe the bank 2,000 francs.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.57,0:23:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also owe Nicola, a\Nfriend, 1,000 francs.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.19,0:23:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Augustus Bletus, 450, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.36,0:23:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this money, of course, I did\Nnot spend it with other women
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.38,0:23:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you very well know,\Nbut on horse races.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.30,0:23:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please kiss our child for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.23,0:23:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also owe 800 to Bernard.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.18,0:23:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.68,0:23:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at the end, there's\Na little reminder.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.01,0:23:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.87,0:23:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a backgammon.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:37.95,0:23:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mom told me how\Nto fund his habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.77,0:23:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dimitri would continually\Nsteal not just from strangers,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.40,0:23:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but his employer, his\Nfriends, even his family.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.60,0:23:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's no wonder she\Nwas so terrified
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.46,0:23:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I would turn out like him.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.70,0:23:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember once, Alexis, he\Nwas about seven or eight.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.56,0:24:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lied about something,\Nand I beat him up.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.59,0:24:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm ashamed to say that so much\Nthat my finger got swollen.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.77,0:24:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized I was not beating\NAlexis, I was beating Dimitri.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.02,0:24:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Real Hassle, I was very,\Nvery worried at the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.75,0:24:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was more worried\Nwith the card playing,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.08,0:24:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the actual card in the hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.34,0:24:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Feeling flush more from\Nthe alcohol than the cards,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.22,0:24:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alex ups the ante.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.77,0:24:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what was a friendly game\Nwith a limit 100 pounds,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.96,0:24:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now has no limits.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.88,0:24:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to get small\Nmoney on the table.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.77,0:24:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think my mom was petrified.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.66,0:24:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Petrified when she saw me with\Na pack of cards in my hands
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.08,0:24:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing magic tricks, because\Nshe associated pack of cards,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.79,0:24:49.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love of gambling, love of cards\Nwhich is what my dad was into.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.01,0:24:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is her son going to go\Ndown the same slippery road
Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.72,0:24:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as his father did?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.47,0:24:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.84,0:24:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.21,0:25:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well there have been times\Nwhere I've wondered that myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.28,0:25:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of them was here.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.58,0:25:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to Las Vegas, a town\Nbuilt entirely on gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.80,0:25:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.98,0:25:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.36,0:25:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2007, I spent three\Nmonths in Vegas filming
Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.75,0:25:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for The Real Hustle.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.44,0:25:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SLOT MACHINE BEEPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:25:22.29,0:25:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, that's nasty.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.80,0:25:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, but that's good.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.48,0:25:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.25,0:25:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found as the rest of\Nthe crew would go off to bed--
Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.86,0:25:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.36,0:25:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CARD SHUFFLES]
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.98,0:25:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I stood at the table\Na little bit longer,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.03,0:25:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I gambled most nights.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.19,0:25:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know that my\Nfamily were a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.22,0:25:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxious about me being around\Ncasinos, because of my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.82,0:25:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to admit the first\Ntime I walked into a casino,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.00,0:25:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my heart was pumping.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.10,0:25:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can understand\Nthat they're
Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.58,0:25:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worried that I maybe\Nwould be around casinos
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.32,0:26:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and would turn out\Nto be like my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.86,0:26:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,17.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.90,0:26:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASINO CHIPS CLINKS]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.78,0:26:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blackjack.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.56,0:26:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes!
Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.40,0:26:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.54,0:26:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, come on.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.39,0:26:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.12,0:26:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How quick.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.64,0:26:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've blown $200?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.82,0:26:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do I think that I might have\Nsomething in me that might
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.24,0:26:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that I'm a gambling addict?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.53,0:26:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.48,0:26:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think so.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.26,0:26:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.89,0:26:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.64,0:26:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CASINO CHIPS CLINKS]\NThis is just not your day.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.99,0:26:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.41,0:26:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.87,0:26:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I do enjoy it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.32,0:26:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.82,0:26:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said it.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.63,0:26:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.73,0:26:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you like a flutter\Nthen this is the place to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.67,0:26:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But whilst on the surface,\Nthis is a pleasure town,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.85,0:26:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastically over the top,\Na temple to entertainment
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.79,0:26:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fun, when you look for\Nit, this city has a dark side.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.34,0:26:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These jets you can see here,\Nthey're the high roller jets.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.70,0:26:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the Jets of the\Npeople-- the billionaires
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.77,0:26:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who come to gamble in Vegas.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.81,0:27:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or the Jets the hotels used\Nto ferry the rich people in,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.08,0:27:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whales as they call them.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.56,0:27:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's here.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.26,0:27:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over here, you have the most\Niconic sign of Las Vegas.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.64,0:27:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the beginning\Nof the strip here.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.84,0:27:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And way over there over\Nthat advertising billboard
Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.50,0:27:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, underneath there in a\Nsewer, is where you have--
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.51,0:27:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people live in there.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.01,0:27:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here in the flood\Ntunnels running
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.93,0:27:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under this city, literally\Nhundreds of homeless people.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.77,0:27:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many who have hit rock\Nbottom because of gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:38.55,0:27:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've come to find them.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.74,0:27:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And is this base here so here\Nyou go very little church here
Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.35,0:27:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes and you've got a suitcase.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.47,0:27:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Compulsive gamblers Cyril and\Nhis 27-year-old girlfriend
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.98,0:27:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Becky have been living\Nin these tunnels
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.47,0:27:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off and on for more\Nthan six months.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.18,0:28:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is where you put\Nyour stuff to protect it
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.56,0:28:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the rain, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.74,0:28:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now our enclosure over\Nthere they're all clean
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.82,0:28:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During your gambling\Nstuff, how much money
Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.70,0:28:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you think you've first\Npassed through your hands?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.00,0:28:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since I've started gambling--
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.38,0:28:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made a million\Ndollars one night.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.34,0:28:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You made a million dollars?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.46,0:28:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He finally went through--
Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.79,0:28:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,won and lost a million dollars.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.90,0:28:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I had--
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.48,0:28:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I had over\Na million dollars
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.94,0:28:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that goes through my hand\Nin about a year and a half.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.69,0:28:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you think you were\Ngambling as part of the reason
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.21,0:28:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that maybe you sort\Nof where you are now?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.74,0:28:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I blame him.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.96,0:28:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really do.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.90,0:28:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's said that's\Nmessed up saying--
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.02,0:28:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.52,0:28:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How could you believe--
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.48,0:28:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gambling is a big part\Nof where I am right now,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.56,0:28:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I didn't start it.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.22,0:28:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you consider yourself\Nas a problem gambler?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.04,0:28:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Would you consider that?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.72,0:28:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.34,0:29:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not really, because if we\Njust keep going for it,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.38,0:29:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an you're going to win.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.37,0:29:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially if you\Nstart with zero.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.83,0:29:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't lose.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.79,0:29:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gambling pays\Nfor everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.05,0:29:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you positive and\Nwe pay for everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.11,0:29:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we do because of gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.66,0:29:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's negative
Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.81,0:29:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you see what's\Nabove us right now,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.35,0:29:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the amazing hotels, the\Nsize of a city which
Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.58,0:29:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just phenomenal,\Nand it's all being
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.12,0:29:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,built for money that people\Nhave come and lost here, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.18,0:29:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.68,0:29:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I'm going to\Ngo and beat them.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.54,0:29:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I'm going to\Ntake their money.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.11,0:29:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but after my word's\Nover, it's playtime,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.96,0:29:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know they're probably\Ngoing to take my money.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.92,0:29:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.89,0:29:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite shocking to me back\Nin zero-- in the situation
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.11,0:29:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they find themselves in.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.10,0:29:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, how do you\Nwake up in there,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.12,0:30:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look around, realize you're\Nliving in a flood tunnel,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.87,0:30:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and think, I'm going to\Ngamble my way out of here?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.73,0:30:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to make enough\Nmoney through gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.06,0:30:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get out of here.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.15,0:30:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by his own admission, every\Ntime he'll make some money,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.83,0:30:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he'll just gamble it.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.90,0:30:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I defy anybody to come\Ndown and look at this.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.33,0:30:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sort of say, well\Nyou know, he just
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.17,0:30:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has an issue with money.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.30,0:30:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy's an addict.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.07,0:30:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guys cannot stop gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.37,0:30:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.75,0:30:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.21,0:30:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No matter how bad\Nthings get, Cyril's
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.12,0:30:38.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still denying he's an addict.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.97,0:30:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that what my dad is like?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.71,0:30:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as with all\Naddictions, the first step
Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.40,0:30:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is recognizing that\Nyou've got a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.23,0:30:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The following day I went\Nlooking for Cyril and Becky
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.11,0:30:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and found them searching\Nthe strip and the casinos.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.59,0:30:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were looking for\Nmoney for Cyril to gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.55,0:30:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to ask them\Nmore, don't they
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.95,0:31:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realize that Cyril is an addict?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.76,0:31:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The gambling is the\Ncause of their problems
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.05,0:31:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than the solution.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.82,0:31:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You went to a casino?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.40,0:31:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.10,0:31:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.60,0:31:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, just now?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.21,0:31:11.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.71,0:31:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.39,0:31:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there wasn't really\Nanything in there.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.14,0:31:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What were you looking for?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.31,0:31:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Money.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.64,0:31:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To see if there was anything\Nleft on the machines,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.77,0:31:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or dropped by the tables.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.12,0:31:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People dropped chips.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.57,0:31:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I find 5 bucks,\NI'll go try it in this
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.90,0:31:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it doesn't hit, I will\Nwalk around, find 5 more bucks
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.62,0:31:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and play it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.67,0:31:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And usually I can like\Nkeep at the same machine
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.46,0:31:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I get a hit for a day.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.81,0:31:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know what I'm saying?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.85,0:31:35.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that'll give\Nme my little jump,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.59,0:31:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that'll turn\Nmy 20 into 40 or 50
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.86,0:31:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then take it from there.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.54,0:31:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to get him to break\Naway from this whole thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.41,0:31:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he doesn't want to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.80,0:31:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, he does but he\Ndoes-- i don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.40,0:31:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's a gambling addict.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.35,0:31:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is his element right here.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.64,0:31:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm taking him away from that\Nif I make it [INAUDIBLE]..
Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.21,0:31:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in your eyes, you do think\Nthat Cyril is a gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:31:59.58,0:32:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,addict?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.23,0:32:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I know he is.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.97,0:32:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think he knows he is?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.50,0:32:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, but he doesn't\Nwant to admit it.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.59,0:32:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What would you say\Nproblem gambler is?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.46,0:32:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.10,0:32:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone who's got a family,\Nand after they worked all week,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.37,0:32:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of coming\Nhome, went to a casino
Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.04,0:32:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and blew their whole\Ncheck and then came home.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.72,0:32:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, also, probably\Nsomeone who lives in a tunnel.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.93,0:32:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS] But--
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.46,0:32:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.46,0:32:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.45,0:32:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't see myself in five years\Nbeing here and being happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.56,0:32:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see myself either dead,\Nstill homeless, or struggling.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.68,0:32:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And basically in a--
Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.64,0:32:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.84,0:32:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you're looking\Nat what's destroying
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.06,0:32:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you to help you, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.01,0:32:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a double edged\Nsword, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.66,0:32:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I know what you're\Nsaying, but I mean,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.28,0:32:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will do that within\Nthe next couple of weeks.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.24,0:32:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will make like my luck.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.43,0:32:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.66,0:33:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's as if they sort of both\Nknow what's killing them,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.60,0:33:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're not doing\Nanything about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:02.39,0:33:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they can't do\Nanything about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.55,0:33:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He just seemed to\Nhave that what I
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.04,0:33:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think is typical about\Nproblem gamblers.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.62,0:33:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, you know what?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.89,0:33:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to get myself\Nout of it, with gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.16,0:33:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I need is that one big win.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.75,0:33:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it never stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.85,0:33:16.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I'm going to play poker.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.89,0:33:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not the booker slots. as\Nif there's any difference.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:19.32,0:33:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for an alcoholic say, I'm\Nnot going to drink spirits.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.74,0:33:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just going to stick to beer.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.53,0:33:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how I think\Nkind of where he is
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.00,0:33:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the seriousness\Nof his problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.97,0:33:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.42,0:33:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.90,0:33:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you've got a\Nproblem, you don't
Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.06,0:33:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to take a trip to\NVegas or to the casino.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.43,0:33:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.29,0:33:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see these days you can get\Nyour fix in perfect isolation.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.40,0:33:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm on the latest\Nin home comforts
Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.34,0:33:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the chance to have a\Ncasino under your own roof.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.87,0:33:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could close my door here,\Nfamily are downstairs.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.66,0:33:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't know what I'm doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.95,0:34:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can just have that\Nisolation between me
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.84,0:34:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the computer\Nscreen, and get sucked
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.39,0:34:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into that emotional\Nroller coaster that
Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.38,0:34:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is playing roulette or blackjack\Nor poker for a lot of money.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.00,0:34:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've just put bet\Nonline in Google.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.57,0:34:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got 228 million results.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.57,0:34:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we've got Ladbrokes, William\NHill, Bet 365, Paddy Power,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.29,0:34:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds and hundreds,\N[INAUDIBLE] Sports,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.15,0:34:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blue Square.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.53,0:34:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have to go anywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.76,0:34:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can spend a lot of money\Non playing whatever I want.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.22,0:34:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can play roulette.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.83,0:34:37.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can play craps.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.79,0:34:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can play blackjack.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.32,0:34:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can play poker.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.52,0:34:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can bet on horses,\Nevery single horse race
Dialogue: 0,0:34:43.22,0:34:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world, mind you.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.39,0:34:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not as if I can go--\Nwell, it's nighttime now.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.06,0:34:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's past 8 o'clock.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.33,0:34:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no more races, but\NI can bet on races in China.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:54.02,0:34:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can bet on races in America.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.80,0:35:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is 24 hours a day,\Nand it's in your home.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.86,0:35:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people who I have\Ntalked to about gambling,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.62,0:35:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the isolation, it's what\Ngamblers called The Bubble.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.60,0:35:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's me and the machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.52,0:35:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing else matters.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.93,0:35:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The building can be\Nburning behind you,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.63,0:35:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's me and that machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.75,0:35:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think you get\Nthe same sense at home.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.74,0:35:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite frankly.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.65,0:35:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[WHEELS CHURNING]
Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.49,0:35:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why would I go if I really\Ndo feel like I want help?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.19,0:35:32.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[INAUDIBLE] in GamCare.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.27,0:35:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When my dad gambled,\Nnobody talked about it
Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.88,0:35:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of a disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.89,0:35:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that's starting to change.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.56,0:35:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is GamCare.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.30,0:35:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they run a help line which\Nsupports problem gamblers
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.33,0:35:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the people around them.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.72,0:35:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these people here will\Nbe handling calls coming in?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.01,0:35:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.51,0:35:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There'll be live calls.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.58,0:35:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll be handling\Ncalls that come in,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.50,0:35:53.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about 35,000 calls a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.19,0:35:55.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So can we have a look at maybe\Nwhat's happening over here?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.61,0:35:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely. yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.72,0:35:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Mike.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.98,0:35:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, there.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.48,0:35:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello, Mike.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.98,0:35:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nice to meet you.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.69,0:36:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nice to meet you.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.54,0:36:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When a call comes\Nthrough, it'll be
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.00,0:36:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a one-on-one sort of chat box.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.12,0:36:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More often than not, people\Nare coming in and saying,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.33,0:36:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how can I change\Nwhat my son's doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.96,0:36:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can I make him stop?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.80,0:36:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes people just\Nwant someone to talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.59,0:36:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So really, you don't\Nhave to say that much.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.40,0:36:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, they want\Nmore directions.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.94,0:36:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So sometimes they\Nmight say, where
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.88,0:36:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can I go to get help\Nwith my local GA meeting?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.89,0:36:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That kind of thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.48,0:36:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While I was at\NGamCare, they let me
Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.91,0:36:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak to one caller whose\Nexperience of discovering
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.97,0:36:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her husband's secret\Ngambling took me
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.67,0:36:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right back to my own childhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.99,0:36:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He started gambling many years\Nago on football and hockey.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.49,0:36:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found out about it, and\Nhe said he'd never do it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.21,0:36:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The biggest horse that he\Npound is about 100 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.45,0:36:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lost my mother, and\Nshe lost some money.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.63,0:36:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought her to\Npay the mortgage
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.22,0:36:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so she told me to take\Nit off the mortgage
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.05,0:36:59.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said no that's not right\Ncan't be it had been doubled.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.03,0:37:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much was it if you\Ndon't mind me asking?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.67,0:37:07.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mortgage has gone up from 50\Nto 100, almost 100,000 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.26,0:37:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100,000 pounds?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.32,0:37:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.82,0:37:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mortgage should--
Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.47,0:37:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was doubled from 50--
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.47,0:37:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doubled from\N50,000 to 100,000.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.94,0:37:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.30,0:37:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.80,0:37:15.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to cut the\Ninsurance policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.69,0:37:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He thought you couldn't\Nhave gotten the money
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.08,0:37:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for that relief as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.68,0:37:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in total, how much\Nmoney had your husband--
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.10,0:37:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was over 100,000.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.08,0:37:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over 100,000 pounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:25.36,0:37:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100,000 pounds in total.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.96,0:37:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Got to a point where I\Njust contemplated suicide.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.45,0:37:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got so low when--
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.68,0:37:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so how I felt, I felt that\Nhe couldn't wanted me.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.70,0:37:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He couldn't have loved me, you\Nwould have put the children
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.16,0:37:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and myself through this.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.74,0:37:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean I know it's a\Nvery difficult question
Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.57,0:37:49.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but how do you feel\Ntowards your husband now?
Dialogue: 0,0:37:49.16,0:37:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't trust him.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.00,0:37:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still to this day don't think\NI'll ever trust them fully.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.88,0:37:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just hope that\Nthe love of his children
Dialogue: 0,0:37:57.59,0:38:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will stop him from\Ndoing it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.01,0:38:04.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've witnessed firsthand\Na family imploding
Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.19,0:38:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that and all the\Nheartbreak it brings.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.75,0:38:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd never want my own family to\Ngo through anything like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.24,0:38:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So perhaps it's\Ntime I got tested
Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.26,0:38:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to answer once and for\Nall if there's any risk I
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.08,0:38:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could turn out like my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.82,0:38:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.00,0:38:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These days the NHS has a\Nclinic for problem gamblers.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.36,0:38:28.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the first one.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.13,0:38:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got to be checked out by\Na psychiatrist Dr. Henrietta
Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.21,0:38:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bowden Jones.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.18,0:38:34.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to the National\NProblem Gambling clinic.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.49,0:38:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously my father\Nwas a gambling addict
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.40,0:38:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who turned into a con man and a\Nfraudster and ended up in jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.99,0:38:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guess I have always\Nwondered whether or not--
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.72,0:38:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was something\Nthat was hereditary.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.36,0:38:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well it's interesting\Nyou say this,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.82,0:38:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we know that\Nyoung people with parents
Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.41,0:38:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who gamble regularly, and\Nyoung people with parents who
Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.05,0:39:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are problem gamblers\Ndo have a higher
Dialogue: 0,0:39:01.31,0:39:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,likelihood of\Ndeveloping this illness
Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.34,0:39:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than the general population.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.62,0:39:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So someone like me\Nmight be at risk for--
Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.42,0:39:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Might be at risk, exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.29,0:39:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.81,0:39:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I won't deny it.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.85,0:39:18.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's a good fun\Npastime, but I always
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.59,0:39:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treat it with a sense that I'm\Ndealing with something that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.11,0:39:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be extremely dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.51,0:39:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.33,0:39:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Alex, I'm going to ask\Nyou a few things now that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.54,0:39:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would allow me to go\Nthrough my mental checklist
Dialogue: 0,0:39:29.42,0:39:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know whether you do\Nhave a problem or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.11,0:39:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often over the past month\Nyou have actually gambled?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.98,0:39:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say, five days\Nin the last month.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.11,0:39:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the month before,\Nit was zero days.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.64,0:39:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often have you bet more\Nthan you can afford to lose?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.42,0:39:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.10,0:39:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often have you\Nneeded to gamble
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.69,0:39:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with larger amounts\Nof money to get
Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.46,0:39:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same feeling of excitement?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.17,0:39:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.02,0:39:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often have you\Ngone back another day
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.88,0:39:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to win back\Nthe money you lost?
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.31,0:39:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.91,0:39:59.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.41,0:40:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's called chasing losses.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.75,0:40:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.25,0:40:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would say the 99.5%\Nof people in this clinic--
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.86,0:40:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will go back to--
Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.81,0:40:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- are lost chasers.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.53,0:40:11.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often have your\Nfather you might
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.03,0:40:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a problem with gambling?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.36,0:40:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the next\None up from never?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.09,0:40:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.75,0:40:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.31,0:40:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How often have you felt\Nguilty by the way you gamble?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.94,0:40:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.84,0:40:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you've scored two.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.24,0:40:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And essentially, you need\Nto score at least nine
Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.22,0:40:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have any significant\Nproblems obviously.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.01,0:40:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHTER]
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.23,0:40:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you find it a little odd\Nthat given my father's history,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.82,0:40:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a card player,\Nfraudster I've
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.24,0:40:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended up with a pack of cards\Nin my hand on a daily basis?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.75,0:40:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm fascinated by\Nscams and cons.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.19,0:40:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although I've had very, very\Nlittle contact with my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.13,0:40:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say that\Nwhat you are doing
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.47,0:40:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is trying to keep in touch\Nwith him at some level
Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.86,0:41:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without harming yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.24,0:41:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.74,0:41:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.09,0:41:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think maybe it is a way\Nof keeping a link to my dad,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.90,0:41:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's definitely\Nnot something that I'm
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.94,0:41:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing consciously.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.21,0:41:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you got to remember that I'm\Npetrified of a relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:41:17.58,0:41:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my dad, because having a\Nproblem gambler in your life
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.97,0:41:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.36,0:41:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.00,0:41:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it can be dangerous\Nbecause like other addictions,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.91,0:41:34.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the urge to gamble can be\Nwith you all your life.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.75,0:41:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Cambridge, I met\NLewis constable.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.39,0:41:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got hooked on slot\Nmachines and online poker.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.61,0:41:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.11,0:41:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very nice to meet you.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.02,0:41:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lewis has managed to\Nquit, but he still
Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.15,0:41:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,admits to getting urges.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.37,0:41:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean you haven't gambled\Nnow for six months.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.71,0:41:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you miss the thrill?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.26,0:41:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.76,0:41:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Definitely.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.28,0:41:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find it harder for\Nwhen I pass the bookies.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.16,0:41:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.93,0:41:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find it hard,\Nespecially on match day
Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.91,0:41:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm a big football fan.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.45,0:42:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I want to bet, I can't\Nbet on all the teams.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.01,0:42:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find it quite\Nhard not to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.35,0:42:07.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was probably on the internet\Npoker for about a year
Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.57,0:42:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a half to two years.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.81,0:42:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I lost a lot of money on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:10.06,0:42:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much money did\Nyou actually lose?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.60,0:42:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well I lost probably on online\Npoker, probably over 7 grand,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.92,0:42:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd say.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.61,0:42:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember that probably be the\Nloneliest or the hardest time.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.25,0:42:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The thing I would\Nsay about gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.34,0:42:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it's such\Na lonely addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.40,0:42:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With drugs, I think you can\Ndo it with other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.89,0:42:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can drink if you do\Nit with other people.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.79,0:42:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Smoking, you can share a\Ncigarette when you're addictive
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.12,0:42:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all that.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.86,0:42:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With gambling, I found\Nwhen I was gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:42:37.14,0:42:38.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was so lonely.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.83,0:42:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you'd lose a\Nbet, you wouldn't
Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.50,0:42:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to tell anyone\Nabout it because you just
Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.37,0:42:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost a lot of money.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.36,0:42:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're ashamed\Nwhen you tell them.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.99,0:42:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.74,0:42:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did you do that?
Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.57,0:42:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you keep it within yourself.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.06,0:42:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.46,0:42:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.43,0:42:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even though Lewis\Nhas quit, he still
Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.94,0:42:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got the potential to have\Na problem with gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.06,0:43:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's now groundbreaking\Nscientific research
Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.21,0:43:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which shows that problem\Ngamblers' brains really
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.54,0:43:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are wired differently.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.49,0:43:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lewis has agreed to take\Npart in a demonstration
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.92,0:43:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this research with\Nme here in Cambridge.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.61,0:43:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dr. Luke Clark a leading\Nexpert in problem gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.15,0:43:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has made an\Nextraordinary discovery.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.86,0:43:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's proved that for\Ngambling addicts,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.80,0:43:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not so much\Nthe winning they're
Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.32,0:43:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hooked on but the\Nexperience of a near miss.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.65,0:43:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLICKING]
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.49,0:43:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's see the spin\Ncoming through here.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.19,0:43:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLICKING]
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.05,0:43:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And--
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.55,0:43:34.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BEEPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.49,0:43:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah!
Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.99,0:43:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is Alex's first win.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.10,0:43:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is his win\Nconductance going up here.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.08,0:43:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alex is interested in the wins.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.01,0:43:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we're also interested\Nin the near misses.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.27,0:43:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we see in problem gamblers\Nthat these near misses
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.03,0:43:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are very significant events.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.99,0:43:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they make them want\Nto carry on playing more.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.46,0:43:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we can see in our\Nbrain imaging data,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.63,0:44:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can see a stronger\Nbrain response
Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.09,0:44:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in particular to the\Nnear miss outcomes
Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.79,0:44:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as someone becomes more\Nof a problem gambler.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.31,0:44:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are these brain responses?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:07.96,0:44:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they in parts\Nof the brain that
Dialogue: 0,0:44:10.27,0:44:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are innervated by dopamine,\Nvery important brain chemicals
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.53,0:44:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in reward behavior and\Nalso in drug addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.58,0:44:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLICKING]
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.71,0:44:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:19.60,0:44:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.51,0:44:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BEEPS]
Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.01,0:44:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.43,0:44:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My results were\Nperfectly normal,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.16,0:44:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Dr. Clark expects\Na problem gambler
Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.82,0:44:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have a very significant\Nreaction to a near miss.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.94,0:44:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.30,0:44:38.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're getting near misses\Nin all gambling games.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.20,0:44:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And indeed, you get\Nnear misses out there.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.54,0:44:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the real world, a lot of\Nthose real world situations
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.20,0:44:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are skill situations where\Nthe near misses really
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.69,0:44:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do tell you something.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.95,0:44:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're shot, the goal\Nbounces out of the post.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.60,0:44:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You haven't got a\Ngoal, but it tells you
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.37,0:44:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you should carry on.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:55.78,0:45:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in gambling games, chance\Nthat reasoning doesn't apply
Dialogue: 0,0:45:00.31,0:45:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that seems to be the main\Nmistake that people make when
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.52,0:45:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they read too much into them.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.77,0:45:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then it was Lewis' turn,\Nand it quickly became clear
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.94,0:45:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in his case, it wasn't\Nthe winning that thrilled him
Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.39,0:45:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the near misses.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.56,0:45:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in that first\Nwin that he received,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.48,0:45:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had had very little impact.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.15,0:45:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was it?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.66,0:45:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I had my first\Nwin, do you remember?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.46,0:45:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was it--
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.00,0:45:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.39,0:45:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.51,0:45:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A big empire?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.05,0:45:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.55,0:45:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.38,0:45:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a clear impact.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.07,0:45:25.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.51,0:45:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.01,0:45:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.55,0:45:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is going to be a near miss.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.28,0:45:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.92,0:45:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BEEPING]
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.62,0:45:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is definitely--
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.67,0:45:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.17,0:45:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A much longer response\Nto a near miss than it
Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.40,0:45:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to the previous week.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.09,0:45:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.60,0:45:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.10,0:45:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then if you never\Nmet either of us
Dialogue: 0,0:45:41.17,0:45:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you caught us\Ntogether, would that
Dialogue: 0,0:45:43.16,0:45:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be sort of a suggestion that\NLewis might have a problem?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.31,0:45:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With these near misses that seem\Nto be more significant and more
Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.29,0:45:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salient to Lewis.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:54.63,0:45:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And within a game of chance, I'd\Nsay that's a dangerous mindset.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.69,0:46:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[CLICKING]
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.50,0:46:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[BEEP]
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.86,0:46:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you're saying that somebody\Nwho's not a problem gambler
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.81,0:46:09.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have a much\Nbigger response, hey,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.13,0:46:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've won something!
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.92,0:46:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:10.25,0:46:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are pleasant\Nrewarding outcomes.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.86,0:46:13.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should see very strongly--
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.07,0:46:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But to a problem\Ngambler, just doesn't
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.29,0:46:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have that much [INAUDIBLE].
Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.72,0:46:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.22,0:46:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.72,0:46:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's fascinating.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.30,0:46:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you remember\Nback to when you
Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.72,0:46:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were sort of playing\Nthe slot machines,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.63,0:46:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would a near miss for\Nyou to chase your money?
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.67,0:46:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would never want anyone\Nelse to win the money
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.89,0:46:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've put in that\Nmachine, because I
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.56,0:46:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that the machine\Nwould pay out soon.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.60,0:46:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you felt that somebody\Nelse would come along, and put
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.97,0:46:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a pound there and get\Nyour money, and will win.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.64,0:46:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the last thing I'd want.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.93,0:46:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think these tests showed me\Nthat my mind really wasn't--
Dialogue: 0,0:46:44.57,0:46:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't about\Ngetting the money.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.16,0:46:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was about getting the thrill.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:48.17,0:46:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.14,0:46:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well that's done\Nenough to convince me
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.72,0:46:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my brain is wired\Ncompletely differently to that
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.27,0:46:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a problem gambler.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.98,0:46:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't react that\Nway when I gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.76,0:47:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it has made\Nme wonder what was
Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.21,0:47:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father like when he gambled?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.55,0:47:05.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How was he reacting?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.88,0:47:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was going on\Ninside his brain?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.41,0:47:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, when\Nmy dad was gambling,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.59,0:47:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't have any\Nof these techniques.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.87,0:47:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't know, but\Nit makes me wonder.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.07,0:47:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a feeling that he\Nwas the same as Lewis.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.43,0:47:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he got the thrills\Nof near misses.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.52,0:47:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the winning\Nwasn't enough for him.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.28,0:47:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, he would've stopped.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.57,0:47:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.88,0:47:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.73,0:47:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So like drugs and alcohol,\Nonce you've been an addict,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.13,0:47:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're always either be\Nan addict or an addict
Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.55,0:47:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in recovery.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.58,0:47:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.75,0:47:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.25,0:47:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.66,0:47:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.16,0:47:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:46.91,0:47:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the problem\Ngambling center
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.95,0:47:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Las Vegas run by\NDr. Robert Hunter.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.73,0:47:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Normally these meetings\Nare anonymous affairs,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.13,0:47:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I've been allowed\Nto sit-in on one.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.37,0:48:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of these addicts\Nare around my dad's age,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.37,0:48:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so are these the sort\Nof struggles he's been
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.44,0:48:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having throughout his life?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:05.48,0:48:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was fully aware that I\Nwas destroying my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.59,0:48:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't do it to forget.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:11.42,0:48:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did drugs to forget.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.29,0:48:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am aware of that.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.69,0:48:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.09,0:48:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But gambling?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.66,0:48:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made myself sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.09,0:48:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I urinated my pants while I\Nwas gambling and kept gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:24.40,0:48:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Running down to my last 300\Nbucks at Warner station,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.15,0:48:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden, I\Nvomit all over the machine.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.31,0:48:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm talking about\Ncreating panic.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.31,0:48:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After yesterday's\Nfight here as I
Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.95,0:48:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walked in the door of\Nmy house fighting urges.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.99,0:48:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.67,0:48:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm fighting urges\Nright now, and I just
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.33,0:48:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't understand why\NI can't get this.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.49,0:48:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe you're in the right\Nplace at the right time.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.74,0:48:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm sorry about\Nthe pain in your eyes.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.49,0:48:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look like somebody just got\Npulled out of a burning car.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.58,0:49:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really looks like\Nyou're in agony.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.44,0:49:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I've seen that\Nlook, and I've
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.81,0:49:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seen it turn into those looks.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.27,0:49:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So please just go\Nwhere they point you.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.59,0:49:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please just go\Nwhere they got you.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.44,0:49:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Problem gambling's\Nas old as man,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.93,0:49:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's only been in\Nthe last few decades
Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.79,0:49:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they've had lab research\Nthat suggests they really
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.19,0:49:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are different.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.77,0:49:18.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their brains really\Nare different.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:18.04,0:49:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something different\Nhappens when they gamble.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.44,0:49:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the end of the line?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.98,0:49:25.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the bottom of the\Nbottom for a gambling addict?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.78,0:49:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the worst case scenario?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.42,0:49:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The major danger is to\Nsay, I am the architect
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.63,0:49:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this destruction and despair.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:34.54,0:49:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a bad person who has chosen\Nto harm the people I love,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.95,0:49:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore I should kill\Nmyself as a gift to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.40,0:49:44.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what the end\Nof the trail looks
Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.59,0:49:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like for a problem gambler
Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.79,0:49:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are people\Nhere who literally
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.25,0:49:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going to live or die\Nbased on how they're dong.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.28,0:49:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people in that group the day\Nthat are going to live or die
Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.90,0:49:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on what they do over the\Nnext four to five days.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.08,0:50:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been through the process.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.55,0:50:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've recovered.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.89,0:50:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've relapsed.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.25,0:50:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where do you see yourself now?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.65,0:50:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you feel--
Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.30,0:50:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you feel the future\Nholds for you right now?
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.87,0:50:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SIGHS]
Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.36,0:50:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.19,0:50:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SIGHS] To be perfectly honest\Nwith you where I'm at today,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.59,0:50:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I don't stop,\NI'm going to die.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.98,0:50:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.41,0:50:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think people realize\Nthat gambling could come in
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.32,0:50:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have somebody in who\Nsays, I've done heroin.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.07,0:50:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've been able\Nto give that up.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.99,0:50:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But gambling is an issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.98,0:50:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think a lot of people\Nare even aware that gambling
Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.34,0:50:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.36,0:50:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no doubt in my mind\Nthat gambling addiction
Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.81,0:50:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.77,0:50:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.48,0:51:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not bad habit.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.05,0:51:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not-- you're a\Nlittle bit bad with money,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:03.74,0:51:04.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't know where to stop.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.95,0:51:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:05.58,0:51:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SOFT MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:51:08.93,0:51:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.93,0:51:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if it's an illness, if\Nproblem gamblers really
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.88,0:51:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in the grip of such\Na powerful addiction,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.24,0:51:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then is it time now to\Nmake peace with my dad?
Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.48,0:51:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I no longer feel the resentment\NI once did towards him.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.14,0:51:28.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I've come back to\Nvisit his best friend,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.66,0:51:31.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Femmis to ask about making\Ncontact with Dimitri.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:31.83,0:51:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.82,0:51:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you, mister.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.80,0:51:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.76,0:51:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Femmis has stayed in\Ntouch with Dimitri
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.63,0:51:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even although I know he\NStole a huge amount of money
Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.63,0:51:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the company they\Nwere both directors of.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.68,0:51:47.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He took 4 mill.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.95,0:51:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 million.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.74,0:51:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 million and 7000\Npounds and disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.34,0:51:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.82,0:51:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think he took it because\Nhe wanted to go and gamble
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.31,0:52:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or do you think he took it\Nbecause he was owing money?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.90,0:52:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.57,0:52:04.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.07,0:52:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.57,0:52:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:05.30,0:52:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody knew he was ill.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.85,0:52:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ill-- had the problem\Nwith gambling,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.46,0:52:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet everybody was\Nalways lending him money,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.20,0:52:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to help him.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.61,0:52:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you knew that Dimitri was\Nstealing money or borrowing
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.00,0:52:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money to buy drugs, because\Nhe was a drug addict,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.58,0:52:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would have been\Ndifferent, wouldn't it?
Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.58,0:52:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We never gave him\Nmoney in order to play.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.01,0:52:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just giving him something\Nin order just to live.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.24,0:52:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody was helping Demetrius\Nor even be angry with him
Dialogue: 0,0:52:40.97,0:52:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he took from me money.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.21,0:52:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never would\Nbe normal fathers
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.39,0:52:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or normal husbands and so\Nthese people, I believed it.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.30,0:52:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then as we spoke, Femmis\Ntold me some shocking news
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.42,0:52:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.12,0:53:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unfortunately, the latest\Nnews about him are very bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.64,0:53:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's ill, seriously ill.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.86,0:53:08.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's wrong with him now?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.21,0:53:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.71,0:53:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm afraid it is about\Nthe cancer at his throat.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.70,0:53:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throat.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.44,0:53:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.95,0:53:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Throat.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.45,0:53:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.11,0:53:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think I should\Ngo and see Dimitri?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.61,0:53:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Write to him some words.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:25.61,0:53:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have heard that you are ill.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.03,0:53:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm thinking about you.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.92,0:53:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't go to see him.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.21,0:53:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think so.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.99,0:53:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Too upsetting.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:35.07,0:53:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.22,0:53:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he was a victim\Nof a very nasty addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.23,0:53:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people kept lending\Nmoney to help him.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.18,0:53:48.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But by helping him\Nthey were killing him.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:48.75,0:53:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Money was going straight back\Non to card tables, casinos,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.47,0:53:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you name it.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.30,0:53:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suppose you live with the\Nconsequences of what you've
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.88,0:54:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done, but I just find it very\Ndifficult to sort of accept
Dialogue: 0,0:54:00.69,0:54:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.04,0:54:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:03.78,0:54:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe I'm being\Ndramatic, but an image
Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.49,0:54:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of someone in a hospital bed,\Nsomeone who was so social,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:14.02,0:54:16.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just alone in prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.51,0:54:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one visiting him.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.69,0:54:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one caring for him.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.03,0:54:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody bringing him anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.54,0:54:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody really caring whether\Nhe's going to recover
Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.70,0:54:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if he's feeling\Ncomfortable or if he's--
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.80,0:54:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.66,0:54:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[SNIFFS]
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.06,0:54:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[PIANO PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.98,0:54:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear, Dimitri.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:39.48,0:54:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been hearing your\Nnews from Femmis and mom.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.10,0:54:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sorry to hear\Nthat you're not well.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.22,0:54:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was growing up, I\Nnever understood why you left.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.69,0:54:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always thought you'd just\Nprefer to be on your own
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.86,0:54:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away from us.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.84,0:54:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I missed having a father.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.28,0:54:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, during the making\Nof this documentary,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:58.91,0:55:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've learned a lot\Nabout people like you--
Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.28,0:55:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gambling addicts.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.81,0:55:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People can't stop\Nthemselves from gambling.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.99,0:55:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've learned you\Nnever stood a chance.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.15,0:55:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your addiction to\Ngambling is what
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.68,0:55:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drove you to steal and\Nborrow and is ultimately
Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.98,0:55:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what landed you in jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.50,0:55:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many people call this\Na hedon addiction.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.48,0:55:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At first I didn't really\Nunderstand why, but I do now.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:21.08,0:55:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It often goes\Nundetected by others,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.54,0:55:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's easy to deny it\Nyourself if you haven't.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.46,0:55:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For all it's worth I think\Nyou're a gambling addict,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.21,0:55:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I forgive you.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.91,0:55:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish things had\Nbeen different.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.86,0:55:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexis.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.36,0:55:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.61,0:55:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.09,0:55:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But before I even\Ngot to send a letter,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.60,0:55:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received news of my dad.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.12,0:55:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.78,0:55:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd returned to\Nthe UK to complete
Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.46,0:55:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,filming for this documentary.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.10,0:55:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a phone call telling\Nme that my dad passed away
Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.85,0:56:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in hospital still in prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.19,0:56:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He never got the letter.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:03.53,0:56:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself on\Nthe phone organizing
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.12,0:56:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a funeral for my father\Nwhich I couldn't even attend.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.26,0:56:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he was buried\Nwith no one there.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.21,0:56:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.72,0:56:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is a sad\Nend for anybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.72,0:56:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But unfortunately, I think\Nit's quite a common end
Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.80,0:56:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for gamblers.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.47,0:56:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC PLAYING]
Dialogue: 0,0:56:30.96,0:56:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.95,0:56:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More from Alex in\Nnew The Real Hustle
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.99,0:56:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slips your chances with\NConnie Hook, Friday at 8:30.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.17,0:56:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next is EastEnders.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.02,0:56:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[MUSIC - THIRTEEN SENSES, "INTO\NTHE FIRE"]
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.12,0:56:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.94,0:56:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(SINGING) Come on.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:51.82,0:56:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put your hands in to the fire.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.60,0:56:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.45,0:56:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,