1 00:00:01,739 --> 00:00:03,516 (Half bell) 2 00:00:06,862 --> 00:00:13,080 (Bell) 3 00:00:29,353 --> 00:00:32,311 Dear Thay, dear community, 4 00:00:34,136 --> 00:00:37,384 You spoke about if we live in a toxic environment 5 00:00:37,544 --> 00:00:41,184 where there is something we think is bad for our soul or spirit 6 00:00:41,845 --> 00:00:44,085 we should leave. 7 00:00:44,395 --> 00:00:46,424 I live perhaps... 8 00:00:47,516 --> 00:00:50,435 I live in Israel, in the West Bank. 9 00:00:53,104 --> 00:00:57,152 In the ground, in everybody's mind, my family's mind, my children's' mind 10 00:00:57,524 --> 00:01:02,289 there is a lot of suffering, a lot of anger, hostility, 11 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:06,342 a lot of racial memories that Jewish people remember. 12 00:01:07,286 --> 00:01:09,853 Things from thousands of years. 13 00:01:10,936 --> 00:01:16,479 I have no idea how to take myself away from a collective conscious, 14 00:01:16,608 --> 00:01:18,561 from my children and my grandchildren, 15 00:01:18,690 --> 00:01:23,963 from my home, from a place that I feel is not good for me. 16 00:01:25,575 --> 00:01:27,401 My question is: 17 00:01:27,601 --> 00:01:31,065 How can we remove from a toxic environment 18 00:01:31,325 --> 00:01:35,476 when in that environment we have children, grandchildren, our friends are there, 19 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,417 our work is there, our ancestors are there. 20 00:01:40,391 --> 00:01:46,032 We can contribute to the work of changing the environment. 21 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:56,232 We can also come together and create a kind of island 22 00:01:58,663 --> 00:02:03,300 that is safer and healthier 23 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:05,647 to protect ourselves 24 00:02:05,808 --> 00:02:08,943 in the case that we cannot pull out. 25 00:02:11,074 --> 00:02:13,816 In Plum Village in the past 26 00:02:13,957 --> 00:02:18,152 we have sponsored many groups of Palestinians and Israelis 27 00:02:18,322 --> 00:02:20,531 to come and practice with us. 28 00:02:25,255 --> 00:02:29,779 We have learned a lot from that. 29 00:02:32,438 --> 00:02:36,162 Every time two groups came, 30 00:02:37,361 --> 00:02:41,900 we noticed that they could not look at each other, 31 00:02:43,091 --> 00:02:47,057 because each group has a lot of anger, fear, 32 00:02:48,312 --> 00:02:50,627 and suspicion. 33 00:02:54,893 --> 00:02:58,465 And it is not pleasant to look at the other group. 34 00:02:59,009 --> 00:03:03,770 Because you think that your suffering has been created by the other group. 35 00:03:05,790 --> 00:03:08,793 You are the only victim 36 00:03:09,242 --> 00:03:13,358 and they are the ones who cause your suffering. 37 00:03:13,968 --> 00:03:16,621 That is the thinking, that is the feeling. 38 00:03:16,751 --> 00:03:19,118 A lot of anger and fear. 39 00:03:20,826 --> 00:03:25,786 And suspicion. 40 00:03:30,634 --> 00:03:36,335 So during the first week of the practice we helped them, both groups, 41 00:03:36,517 --> 00:03:40,970 -they didn't stay together in one place- 42 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,042 in the practice of mindful breathing, mindful walking, to calm down, 43 00:03:50,170 --> 00:03:55,431 and to learn how to look at that suffering, that anger, that fear. 44 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,982 And the practice of touching the wonders of life, the nature. 45 00:04:05,177 --> 00:04:09,173 Because there are many of us, coming from many countries, 46 00:04:09,608 --> 00:04:13,976 and together we can create an atmosphere of brotherhood, sisterhood, 47 00:04:14,961 --> 00:04:18,464 which is very pleasant to be in. 48 00:04:18,841 --> 00:04:24,141 During the first week both groups profit from that kind of environment. 49 00:04:25,232 --> 00:04:28,806 We eat together, we walk together, 50 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:34,527 we share together our learning, our practice. 51 00:04:37,017 --> 00:04:43,278 And the second week we begin the practice of deep listening 52 00:04:43,468 --> 00:04:45,759 and loving speech. 53 00:04:46,773 --> 00:04:49,272 One of the two groups 54 00:04:50,094 --> 00:04:53,163 is invited to speak. 55 00:04:53,927 --> 00:04:57,824 They are encouraged to tell everything in their hearts. 56 00:04:58,044 --> 00:05:01,068 All kind of suffering that they have gone through 57 00:05:01,234 --> 00:05:03,562 on their side. 58 00:05:05,589 --> 00:05:11,335 When the Palestinians speak, then the Israelis just listen. 59 00:05:14,248 --> 00:05:19,238 And you who speak, you are encouraged to use the kind of language 60 00:05:20,119 --> 00:05:24,714 that can help the other side to understand. 61 00:05:25,468 --> 00:05:30,940 If there is too much accusation, blame and anger, 62 00:05:31,321 --> 00:05:34,186 the other side will not be able to listen to you. 63 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:38,244 So try to use a kind of language 64 00:05:38,713 --> 00:05:43,565 that helps the other side to understand the suffering on your side. 65 00:05:43,886 --> 00:05:45,673 You must tell them. 66 00:05:46,424 --> 00:05:53,804 Every kind of suffering that your children and adults have gone through, 67 00:05:54,249 --> 00:05:55,855 tell them everything. 68 00:05:56,004 --> 00:05:59,174 But please do not accuse, do not blame, 69 00:05:59,312 --> 00:06:02,518 do not be bitter. 70 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:08,018 And that will help them, 71 00:06:08,207 --> 00:06:12,488 because the purpose of speaking is to help the other side to understand. 72 00:06:12,804 --> 00:06:16,599 Understand here means understand the suffering of the other side. 73 00:06:18,881 --> 00:06:22,263 On the other side who listens, 74 00:06:22,598 --> 00:06:25,719 we recommend that they listen with compassion. 75 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:33,098 Listening like this, we have only one purpose: 76 00:06:33,697 --> 00:06:38,767 to allow them a chance to speak out, to empty their heart and suffer less. 77 00:06:39,219 --> 00:06:42,067 Because you know that they also suffer. 78 00:06:42,564 --> 00:06:45,917 That is called compassionate listening. 79 00:06:46,417 --> 00:06:51,847 You listen with only one purpose: to help them to speak out, 80 00:06:52,714 --> 00:06:57,036 to empty their heart so that they can suffer less. 81 00:06:59,407 --> 00:07:04,672 That is why, during the time you listen, you should not react. 82 00:07:05,088 --> 00:07:07,355 Just listen. 83 00:07:07,511 --> 00:07:10,234 Stop your thinking. Just listen. 84 00:07:12,023 --> 00:07:15,483 Even if they say wrong things, 85 00:07:16,013 --> 00:07:18,990 they have a lot of wrong perceptions, 86 00:07:20,287 --> 00:07:23,254 their perceptions do not correspond with reality, 87 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,365 you still continue to listen and do not interrupt them 88 00:07:28,690 --> 00:07:31,004 and correct them. 89 00:07:31,198 --> 00:07:35,192 Because if you do, you transform the session into a debate. 90 00:07:35,867 --> 00:07:38,823 That will ruin everything. 91 00:07:39,525 --> 00:07:42,472 You have to practice mindful breathing 92 00:07:47,222 --> 00:07:52,290 and maintain mindfulness of compassion alive in you. 93 00:07:54,489 --> 00:07:57,446 We are listening to them with only one purpose: 94 00:07:57,641 --> 00:07:59,912 help them to suffer less. 95 00:08:00,157 --> 00:08:04,112 That is enough for you to be protected. 96 00:08:04,264 --> 00:08:07,252 You are protected by the energy of compassion. 97 00:08:07,433 --> 00:08:17,242 That is why what they say doesn't trigger irritation and anger in you. 98 00:08:18,121 --> 00:08:21,742 Because you are protected by compassion. 99 00:08:22,162 --> 00:08:24,075 Mindfulness and compassion. 100 00:08:24,236 --> 00:08:26,355 Just remember one thing: 101 00:08:26,612 --> 00:08:29,262 I listen with only one purpose, 102 00:08:30,227 --> 00:08:33,305 to help him to suffer less. 103 00:08:34,134 --> 00:08:39,427 You can listen for one hour without anger or irritation. 104 00:08:40,207 --> 00:08:42,868 That is the practice of a bodhisattva, 105 00:08:43,082 --> 00:08:46,464 Bodhisattva of Deep Listening, 106 00:08:47,025 --> 00:08:49,493 Compassionate Listening. 107 00:08:51,613 --> 00:08:55,392 Even if they have a lot of wrong perceptions, 108 00:08:56,014 --> 00:08:58,112 I will not interrupt them. 109 00:08:58,273 --> 00:09:01,124 I allow them a chance to suffer less. 110 00:09:02,227 --> 00:09:05,257 There will be a few more weeks together. 111 00:09:06,145 --> 00:09:09,820 Three or four days later, 112 00:09:10,926 --> 00:09:16,028 we may offer them some information for them to correct their perceptions, 113 00:09:16,167 --> 00:09:19,482 but not now. Now is only listening. 114 00:09:21,023 --> 00:09:24,074 When you listen like that, 115 00:09:24,668 --> 00:09:29,256 for the first time you see that on the other side 116 00:09:30,148 --> 00:09:35,707 they are human beings like you 117 00:09:36,136 --> 00:09:39,926 and they have suffered exactly 118 00:09:40,183 --> 00:09:43,515 the kind of suffering that you have suffered on your side. 119 00:09:43,693 --> 00:09:45,568 Very much the same. 120 00:09:45,757 --> 00:09:49,110 Bombs, bullets, mortars, 121 00:09:49,651 --> 00:09:52,492 the death of children, the death of adults, 122 00:09:53,035 --> 00:09:55,349 houses burnt and so on. 123 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,897 Despair and so on. 124 00:10:00,092 --> 00:10:03,992 For the first time, you see their suffering. 125 00:10:04,195 --> 00:10:06,147 You understand their suffering 126 00:10:06,309 --> 00:10:10,633 because you have suffered very much the same kind of suffering. 127 00:10:11,905 --> 00:10:16,363 The first time that you see that they are victims like you. 128 00:10:17,054 --> 00:10:20,396 You are not the only victim of the conflict. 129 00:10:24,632 --> 00:10:26,555 Suddenly, 130 00:10:26,752 --> 00:10:30,994 you are capable of looking at them in a different way. 131 00:10:31,691 --> 00:10:33,913 Because you have seen their suffering, 132 00:10:34,085 --> 00:10:36,246 you have understood their suffering, 133 00:10:36,435 --> 00:10:39,961 suddenly there is compassion in your eyes. 134 00:10:41,167 --> 00:10:45,572 And when you look at them with compassion, you don't suffer anymore. 135 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:49,858 It is a miracle. 136 00:10:50,462 --> 00:10:53,833 You don't want to punish them anymore. 137 00:10:54,783 --> 00:10:59,828 You wish that they will not have to suffer like that in the future. 138 00:10:59,984 --> 00:11:05,152 It means that listening like that allows compassion to be born in your heart. 139 00:11:09,745 --> 00:11:11,653 You suffer less 140 00:11:12,288 --> 00:11:14,238 when you listen, 141 00:11:14,382 --> 00:11:17,301 when you understand the suffering on the other side. 142 00:11:17,524 --> 00:11:23,299 And you know that you have your chance to tell them also about your suffering 143 00:11:23,490 --> 00:11:26,319 so that you can help transform them. 144 00:11:26,479 --> 00:11:28,439 They will not be angry at you 145 00:11:28,573 --> 00:11:31,611 they will not be fearful of you anymore. 146 00:11:31,785 --> 00:11:36,420 They will be able to remove their wrong perceptions about you. 147 00:11:37,209 --> 00:11:44,207 That is the practice of deep listening, compassionate listening and loving speech 148 00:11:44,866 --> 00:11:52,359 that they practice beginning the second week. 149 00:11:52,975 --> 00:11:55,580 And many of us, coming from many countries, 150 00:11:55,770 --> 00:12:00,885 we sit with them and offer our collective energy for them. 151 00:12:02,043 --> 00:12:06,079 The healing takes place. 152 00:12:08,532 --> 00:12:11,082 People feel differently, 153 00:12:11,257 --> 00:12:14,608 look differently, listen differently. 154 00:12:15,561 --> 00:12:19,456 Slowly, they come together and eat together. 155 00:12:19,630 --> 00:12:23,203 They can hold hands to do walking meditation together. 156 00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:26,362 They create a new kind of energy. 157 00:12:28,027 --> 00:12:31,191 (At the end) of the retreat, 158 00:12:32,693 --> 00:12:36,347 they always come together as one group. 159 00:12:36,948 --> 00:12:41,688 They reported to the whole sangha about the progress they had made. 160 00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:47,363 Before living Plum Village they always promise 161 00:12:47,857 --> 00:12:50,674 that once they go back to the Middle East 162 00:12:50,922 --> 00:12:55,909 the will come together to organize that kind of practice 163 00:12:56,517 --> 00:13:02,139 so that other people can come and practice and suffer less. 164 00:13:03,228 --> 00:13:07,864 So it is very possible that a number of us come together, 165 00:13:08,124 --> 00:13:12,307 create a kind of island of peace and understanding 166 00:13:13,023 --> 00:13:15,374 and that island can grow. 167 00:13:15,706 --> 00:13:20,218 This is what many of our friends are trying to do in the Middle East. 168 00:13:21,029 --> 00:13:24,704 Our Dharma teachers go there from time to time 169 00:13:24,866 --> 00:13:27,166 to offer a retreat. 170 00:13:27,327 --> 00:13:30,653 If we can do it on a large scale, 171 00:13:31,126 --> 00:13:33,723 I think there will be more hope. 172 00:13:35,218 --> 00:13:44,104 If president Obama knows how to organize a peace negotiation, 173 00:13:47,541 --> 00:13:50,894 he will give both sides enough time 174 00:13:52,171 --> 00:13:56,242 to calm down, to do sitting, walking, breathing, 175 00:13:56,371 --> 00:13:59,857 to calm down first before they negotiate. 176 00:14:00,395 --> 00:14:07,115 You cannot negotiate peace if you are still full of anger, fear and suspicion. 177 00:14:08,303 --> 00:14:11,866 That is what we do in Plum Village, 178 00:14:12,030 --> 00:14:15,288 helping them to calm down first, 179 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:20,146 to see each other as human beings who have suffered like us 180 00:14:20,398 --> 00:14:25,506 before we begin listening to each other and talking. 181 00:14:26,782 --> 00:14:30,468 Let us not give up our hope, 182 00:14:31,095 --> 00:14:35,167 let us not allow despair to overwhelm us. There is a way. 183 00:14:35,955 --> 00:14:40,788 Many of us in many countries 184 00:14:40,981 --> 00:14:44,294 are willing to support you 185 00:14:44,586 --> 00:14:49,522 in this attempt to create more mutual understanding 186 00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:53,791 as the foundation of true peace. 187 00:14:55,824 --> 00:14:57,832 (Bell) 188 00:15:00,843 --> 00:15:06,226 (Bell)