[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.47,0:00:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,RICHARD TUTTLE: My favorite artist\Nis Jan van Eyck, Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.68,0:00:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who gives you a picture\Nwhich satisfies Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.84,0:00:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all attentiveness\Nto the smallest of the small Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.00,0:00:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then all attentiveness\Nto the largest of the large. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.80,0:00:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's one of the things Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.12,0:00:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a picture\Nis supposed to do for us. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.24,0:00:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art is... is life, you know,\Nand that is... you know it... Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.12,0:00:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it in fact has to be,\Nyou know, all of life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.20,0:00:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the awareness,\Nthe beauty, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.40,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the, uh... Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ability\Nto give to a viewer something which Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.54,0:00:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes their life\Nmore what it is, more what it could be. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.12,0:00:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, and it's...\Nit's the essential.... Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.88,0:00:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like, uh, the clue\Nto... to everything. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.12,0:00:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very kind of remarkable\Nthing to connect Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.84,0:00:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of mind freedom\Nthat's available to us Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.44,0:01:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this particular landscape. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.84,0:01:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about harmonizing, it's\Nabout living in the beauty, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.16,0:01:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not so much just looking\Nat the beauty. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.08,0:01:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about how it gets into us Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.68,0:01:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally,\Nuh, feeds the spirit. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.88,0:01:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You look out\Nand you literally feel Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.04,0:01:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're the first person\Nwho was ever here, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.16,0:01:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot has happened here in time,\Nbut then it's erased so quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.72,0:01:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of that is the wind\Nand the rain, Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.28,0:01:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, cleanses the soil. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.08,0:01:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, footsteps left yesterday\Nare... vanish over the night. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.48,0:01:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Happily, my earliest beginnings Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.56,0:01:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were with, uh, you know,\NBetty Parsons and the circle Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.00,0:01:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the New York school\Nof abstract expressionists, and Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.97,0:01:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Western space was definitely\None of the elements Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.92,0:02:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how that art was composed. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.32,0:02:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing white paper\Noctagonals on the wall, Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.56,0:02:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were at a show in,\Nuh... a museum in Dallas, Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.92,0:02:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a critic came along\Nand made mock introductions Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.60,0:02:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of "Oh, this is Richard Tuttle-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.36,0:02:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's interested in impermanence\Nin the arts," you know. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.08,0:02:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... and she didn't...\Nshe did that to Betty, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.92,0:02:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and... and Betty just\Nimmediately snapped back Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.16,0:02:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "What's more permanent\Nthan the invisible?" Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.18,0:02:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ chuckling ] Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.40,0:02:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In any art form, Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.01,0:02:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has to be an accounting\Nof its opposite condition. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.08,0:02:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're going to be\Na visual artist, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.12,0:02:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there has to be\Nsomething in it Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.36,0:02:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that accounts for the\Npossibility of the invisible, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.76,0:02:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the opposite\Nof the visual experience. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.72,0:02:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A painting or a sculpture\Nreally exists Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.00,0:02:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, somewhere, you know,\Nbetween itself, what it is Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.24,0:02:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it is not. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.92,0:03:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Recently I refined my sense\Nabout where my limitations are. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.12,0:03:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some sense, I was happy\Nto think that each piece Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.52,0:03:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be a kind of conjoining\Nof architecture and calligraphy. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.24,0:03:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those then exist\Nas definable poles, Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.56,0:03:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then look in between,\Nand that is this rich, rich vein Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.16,0:03:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we don't really know\Nvery much about. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.12,0:03:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As this house was being built Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.92,0:03:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we talked about installing works\Nof mine in the Klein collection. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.48,0:03:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yellow is a color of happiness, Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.16,0:03:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it's also a very\Nimportant color in general. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.24,0:03:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was tremendously enthusiastic\Nabout this yellow Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.60,0:03:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and these pieces\Nthat were yellow. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.00,0:03:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's really interesting to me Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.56,0:04:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you're weaving\Ntwo separate groups Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.80,0:04:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in three separate rooms, Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.72,0:04:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so you get a division\Nand a fluidity Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.00,0:04:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that connects with a place. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.60,0:04:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some level, the installation,\Nto use a horrible word, Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.64,0:04:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, would be\Nthis sort of a weaving Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.24,0:04:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between, uh, my persona\Nand their persona Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.48,0:04:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, and... and to create\Na... a kind of world Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.76,0:04:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which you can invite\Nyour guests. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.77,0:04:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ playing classical piece ] Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.68,0:04:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An exhibition might be likened\Nto a city. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.80,0:04:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even need to go to all\Nthe places if you don't care to. Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.60,0:04:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would be enough for a visitor\Njust to visit one village, Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.12,0:04:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have a choice,\Nand I... I think Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.84,0:04:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the kind of exhibition\NI'm... I'm really thinking of. Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this village idea is\Na way to invite the visitor in. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.96,0:05:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each village takes on\Na personality. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.36,0:05:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You enter a room and you can\Nscan that in a second, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.56,0:05:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wherever you're attracted,\Nyou can go in that direction. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.32,0:05:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sculptures sort of function\Nas a way Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.40,0:05:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help you get\Ninto that drawing space, Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.68,0:05:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is really intimate. Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.12,0:05:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each village has\Ntwo groups of drawings. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.88,0:05:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each set of drawings seems\Nto concern themselves Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.28,0:05:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with, say, how the piece\Nmeets the floor Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.00,0:05:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how the piece\Nmeets the wall-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.65,0:05:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either concern of the floor, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.24,0:05:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is like concrete issues,\Nyou know, Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.68,0:06:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how it meets the wall, which\Nis more like abstract issues. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.08,0:06:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an old division between,\Nyou know, realism and idealism. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.16,0:06:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the ideal says Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.40,0:06:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the experience happens\Ninside of you, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.44,0:06:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which then would mean\Nthat everything Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.60,0:06:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the conception of drawing\Nto the color itself Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.28,0:06:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is inside of you, Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.16,0:06:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the real is that\Neverything is outside of you. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.52,0:06:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But finally, you know,\Nit's art and art alone Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.52,0:06:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which can actually say\Nwhat is the truth, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.20,0:06:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could say that\Nthe wire represents form Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.28,0:06:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then this overlying is...\Nis... is chaos. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.12,0:06:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where in the world do you ever\Nfind an absence fill a solid Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.60,0:06:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a solid fill an absence? Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.20,0:06:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This piece as an artwork\Ncan simply be giving us Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.96,0:06:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those two, uh,\Nreally disparate, uh, solutions Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.16,0:07:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, uh, the definition\Nof matter, Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.92,0:07:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh, in one, uh, created form. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.20,0:07:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the wood chips are in\Nsome sense a decorative element Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.92,0:07:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's an elaboration of\Nthe underlying wire structure. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.72,0:07:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see the actual grains\Nof this piece of wood here. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.72,0:07:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can experience that\Nas really a pure drawing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.92,0:07:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything in life is drawing,\Nif you want, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.36,0:07:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and drawing is... is absolutely,\Nuh, quintessential Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.96,0:07:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to... to knowing the self,\Nyou know, Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.48,0:07:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would even say\Nthat the art that survives, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.12,0:07:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, from one generation\Nto the next Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.08,0:07:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the art that\Nactually carries something... Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.72,0:07:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that tells us, tells society\Nwhat, uh... about self. Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.40,0:08:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One would say in order to draw,\Nyou have to be able to see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.68,0:08:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, what about making drawings Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.28,0:08:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about an area\Nwhere you can't see? Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.84,0:08:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know,\Nas obsessed as I am Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.80,0:08:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about, you know,\Nthe experience of seeing Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.76,0:08:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the details and so on, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.08,0:08:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I find most interesting\Nis the part which I can't see. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.36,0:08:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that...\Nthat's what I want to do Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.96,0:08:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this Drawing Center show-- Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.60,0:08:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to look\Nat these kinds of places. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.80,0:08:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example,\Nask somebody to draw blue, Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.52,0:08:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know,\Nmake a drawing of blue. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.32,0:08:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you can't do that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.36,0:08:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pieces are self-portraits,\Nuh, I mean, as all artwork is. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.48,0:08:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it takes me ten tries\Nto make a drawing. Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.76,0:08:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes the art is actually\Nin the tenth one, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.76,0:08:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the final one, Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.16,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other times\Nit's in the whole ten. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.24,0:09:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A couple times in my life Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.72,0:09:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I... I really can look\Nat something Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.16,0:09:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and... and say that, you know,\N"I did not make that," Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.32,0:09:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in your heart you know,\Nyou know, you know, you know Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.44,0:09:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you... you did, uh,\Ngo beyond yourself Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.40,0:09:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you enjoyed this, uh...\Nuh, kind of a... a leap. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.80,0:09:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get beyond this barrier\Nthat normally we live within. Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.64,0:09:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art, unlike life, needs\Nthis heightening of reality. Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.28,0:09:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realize that culturally Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.16,0:09:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we walk on a different ground\Nthan is in fact there, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.28,0:09:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that\Nthe psychological ground Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.00,0:09:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a little bit higher\Nthan the actual ground. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.44,0:10:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The emotion, you know,\Nof an art response, Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.44,0:10:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the energy of a... of a...\Ndoes to me feel like motion. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.92,0:10:13.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We use that word, "moved"--\N"I am moved," you know-- Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.96,0:10:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet we know\Nwe're standing right there Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.84,0:10:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have this experience Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.32,0:10:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being stationary\Nand moved at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.92,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I guess what I'm trying\Nto figure out Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is how to sustain the polarity Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.76,0:10:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you can be\Nthe paintbrush of society, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.80,0:10:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also you can make\Nthe society your paintbrush.