WEBVTT 00:00:00.050 --> 00:00:42.040 00:00:42.060 --> 00:00:45.080 I feel like everything may have been photographed. 00:00:45.100 --> 00:00:53.260 You know and if it has been, it’s not to say that...that those photographs are good at looking at the world. 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:57.450 00:00:57.470 --> 00:01:04.640 Just because it’s been sort of catalogued or processed through that machine once or a hundred times or whatever... 00:01:04.660 --> 00:01:10.750 That really, the trick with the photograph is to...to get it to act up and to do more than that. 00:01:10.770 --> 00:01:28.320 00:01:28.340 --> 00:01:30.380 I’m going to make two of these. 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.380 I’m going to shoot it one time with the banana still, hopefully.... 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:38.520 And then one time with the longer exposure with the bananas moving, so...I don’t know. 00:01:38.540 --> 00:01:41.530 We’ll see what happens. 00:01:41.550 --> 00:01:45.630 00:01:45.650 --> 00:01:51.820 I work mostly in my living room so it becomes about how to make that interesting for me to look at. 00:01:51.840 --> 00:02:05.010 For the most part, and so you know I use backdrops and I use sort of...all sorts of materials to sort of help bring these things into life and get you to really look at the object. 00:02:05.030 --> 00:02:10.190 00:02:10.210 --> 00:02:19.360 I think objects that are sort of...that have something pathetic about them are really attractive to me. 00:02:19.380 --> 00:02:28.360 00:02:28.380 --> 00:02:32.540 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.730 Do you normally work this fast? 00:02:34.750 --> 00:02:38.930 Yes, I always work really fast. 00:02:38.950 --> 00:02:41.940 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:52.120 I’ll go to dollar stores and places like that or sometimes I you know pick up a hubcap off the street and will sort of bring them into the studio and they’ll stay in the studio for a while. 00:02:52.140 --> 00:02:56.130 Oftentimes I don’t really know exactly what I’m going to do with them. 00:02:56.150 --> 00:03:04.310 And when I’m working, I just sort of go to work and sort of start to develop a problem and... 00:03:04.330 --> 00:03:16.490 Sometimes an object will really give me a sort of simple problem to deal with and other times it’s much more a kind of flirtation with the objects in the studio that something sort of gets pulled out of it. 00:03:16.510 --> 00:03:22.670 00:03:22.690 --> 00:03:26.860 Those are those Styrofoam forms I was talking about earlier. 00:03:26.880 --> 00:03:30.860 00:03:30.880 --> 00:03:36.040 I feel sometimes like the objects I use are sort of stand-ins for other objects, you know? 00:03:36.060 --> 00:03:48.050 They’re like objects that...that are sort of performing the role of the object in front of the camera, although they’re not the sort of traditional object in front of the camera. 00:03:48.070 --> 00:03:59.230 00:03:59.250 --> 00:04:06.420 You know I...I work full time so...so I usually shoot at night. I like to shoot with a 4x5 camera. 00:04:06.440 --> 00:04:11.600 Which you know has to be on a tripod so it has these sort of rules built into it. 00:04:11.620 --> 00:04:16.600 00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:30.710 You know maybe that’s really where the choices start is that you know these are the sort of conditions of the situation and then from there I can you know buy objects and sort of bring them home and deal with these things. 00:04:30.730 --> 00:04:41.030 00:04:41.050 --> 00:04:44.210 This is ridiculous. 00:04:44.230 --> 00:04:46.230 00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:55.400 I’ll sort of mess around and keep moving and keep moving things and when they click in, it’s really much more about me seeing it than it is about me constructing it. 00:04:55.420 --> 00:04:59.530 00:04:59.550 --> 00:05:03.530 The foam isn’t working. Uh, I think the... 00:05:03.550 --> 00:05:11.730 I think maybe I was a little too invested in it as a material to begin with? Uh… 00:05:11.750 --> 00:05:17.920 It...I can’t say exactly why. Uh… 00:05:17.940 --> 00:05:22.100 I mean there’s got to be something to do with it. 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:29.280 But I don’t know, sometimes things just have to sit around my studio for a long time before I sort of figure out what to do with them and this may just be one of those things. 00:05:29.300 --> 00:05:31.430 00:05:31.450 --> 00:05:36.610 I’ll make you know 20, 25 pictures a week and maybe one or two of them really work. 00:05:36.630 --> 00:05:42.790 A picture that’s successful for me is to have it not fall into a category. 00:05:42.810 --> 00:05:52.990 For me the most sort of satisfying or interesting thing about making a new picture is...is a picture that you really have to look at to sort of come to terms with. 00:05:53.010 --> 00:05:57.170 That it...there’s no way to sort of stand away from it and just know what it is. 00:05:57.190 --> 00:06:13.770 00:06:13.790 --> 00:06:19.459 This stuff is never going to come up.