0:00:00.510,0:00:04.490 Hi it’s Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome[br]to another vegan nugget. Today’s video is 0:00:04.490,0:00:09.020 another installment of my interview with vegan[br]activist Gary Yourofsky. Now, if you’re vegan 0:00:09.020,0:00:13.749 or even considering being vegan, chances are[br]you’ve come up against some anti-vegan 0:00:13.749,0:00:17.950 arguments. Perhaps you’ve even[br]posed some of them yourself in the time leading 0:00:17.950,0:00:22.410 up to being vegan. While legitimate questions[br]and concerns from non-vegans can serve as 0:00:22.410,0:00:27.350 teaching moments and are valuable opportunities[br]for education, some anti-vegan arguments are 0:00:27.350,0:00:32.390 purely baseless and made only to provoke.[br]In his vast experience working with non-vegans, 0:00:32.390,0:00:36.670 Gary Yourofsky has probably heard every line[br]of reasoning in the book. So, I decided to 0:00:36.670,0:00:41.600 ask him what is the best anti-vegan argument.[br]Let’s check out his answer and then I’ll 0:00:41.600,0:00:45.449 jump back in with what I think is the strongest[br]argument against veganism. 0:00:49.749,0:00:53.099 Emily: So you would know more than anyone[br]else that there are a lot of stupid arguments 0:00:53.099,0:00:58.739 against veganism. What would you say is the[br]best argument against veganism, if there is 0:00:58.739,0:01:02.629 one?[br]Gary: There’s not, honestly. I swear I racked 0:01:02.629,0:01:08.860 my brain over this, there is none. In fact[br]I had a professor down here, from university 0:01:08.860,0:01:15.830 of central Florida, who once told me the only[br]reason he became veg is because all the arguments 0:01:15.830,0:01:20.740 he heard against it were stupid. That was[br]his reason. He was a philosopher, he said: 0:01:20.740,0:01:24.700 “I cannot continue to do this because[br]everyone’s reason for eating meat, cheese, 0:01:24.700,0:01:31.170 milk, eggs and honey is absolutely fucking[br]stupid” I really don’t know of one good, 0:01:31.170,0:01:37.050 logical argument. It doesn’t exist. But[br]do¬n’t think that I’m exaggerating or being 0:01:37.050,0:01:42.510 hyperbolic when I say this, because there[br]is not one good argument for raping a child. 0:01:42.510,0:01:48.920 There is not one good argument for murdering[br]a homosexual in Uganda. There is none justifiable 0:01:48.920,0:01:52.890 argument for denying women the right to be[br]quality in Afghanistan, to right to go to 0:01:52.890,0:02:00.380 school, the right to vote in Middle Eastern[br]countries. So there is not one logical reason 0:02:00.400,0:02:04.520 to enslave, murder and oppress the animals[br]and consume their body parts. 0:02:04.520,0:02:08.818 Emily: I hope you enjoyed hearing Gary’s[br]take on this matter. I have to say that my thinking 0:02:08.818,0:02:13.230 is rather in line with what Gary shared. In[br]my recent interview with the popular blog 0:02:13.230,0:02:17.930 Vegan Street, when asked what I thought was[br]the biggest strength of the vegan movement, 0:02:17.930,0:02:22.620 I said it was that we have the truth on our[br]side. There’s no way to logically justify 0:02:22.620,0:02:27.829 what we do to animals for our food, fashion,[br]medicine, and entertainment. All the facts 0:02:27.829,0:02:32.079 and all the legitimate arguments are on our[br]side. This is reflected in the absurdity that 0:02:32.079,0:02:35.290 often arises when people try to justify their[br]behaviors. 0:02:35.290,0:02:39.840 You can read my answers to the other 9 questions[br]in the interview on the Vegan Street blog, 0:02:39.840,0:02:42.150 which I’ve linked to in the video description[br]below. 0:02:42.150,0:02:46.849 Now all of that said, I do have to admit there[br]is one argument someone can lay down for eating 0:02:46.849,0:02:51.609 animal products that I have absolutely no[br]defense against. And that is the statement 0:02:51.609,0:02:56.950 “I don’t care.” If someone simply does[br]not care what happens to the animals, the environment, 0:02:56.950,0:03:02.060 or even their own health by the continued[br]breeding, torturing, exploitation and slaughter 0:03:02.060,0:03:07.040 of billions of animals, I certainly can’t[br]say anything that's going to change that. Complete 0:03:07.040,0:03:09.769 and utter apathy cannot be argued away. 0:03:09.769,0:03:15.109 Now of course it’s not an actual defeat[br]of vegan principles. As Gary and I have said, 0:03:15.109,0:03:20.489 veganism has logic on our side. All the arguments[br]against it are shell games, admittedly by some 0:03:20.489,0:03:25.889 honestly curious, well-intentioned individuals[br]genuinely wanting to know if this way of life 0:03:25.889,0:03:30.150 is possible. And for those people, I will[br]always have time and patience 0:03:30.150,0:03:34.209 Now I’d love to hear from you on this. Have[br]you ever come up against a formidable argument 0:03:34.209,0:03:40.589 against veganism? Perhaps you have one yourself?[br]I’d love to hear it. …Unless it’s “bacon.” 0:03:41.329,0:03:46.579 That’s a word, not an argument. But[br]someone’s going to post it anyways. 0:03:47.049,0:03:51.730 Oh YouTube's comments section, you are [br]the bathroom wall of the internet. 0:03:51.730,0:03:54.699 Anyways, let’s go close it out with Gary! 0:03:54.699,0:03:58.809 Gary I just want to thank you so much for[br]giving us your time and I've been asked on 0:03:58.809,0:04:04.430 behalf of so many of my viewers to just thank[br]you for everything that you do. So, thank 0:04:04.430,0:04:06.760 you so much.[br]Gary: Thank you. Keep on. Everybody, pass 0:04:06.760,0:04:11.219 her stuff around. It's tight stuff, honestly.[br]BiteSizeVegan.com- share it! 0:04:11.219,0:04:14.969 Give the video a thumbs up if you liked it[br]and please share it around to spread the message. 0:04:14.969,0:04:18.279 Stay tuned to the Bite Size Vegan channel[br]for more installments of my interview with 0:04:18.279,0:04:22.029 Gary. 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