[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.64,0:00:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all knew that this day was coming. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.94,0:00:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well at least I knew…and those of you who follow me on social media. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.18,0:00:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This series is all about vegan\Nathletes and he talks about vegan athletes....A lot. Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.84,0:00:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you’re on YouTube and have a pulse,\Nthen you know his name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.16,0:00:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or at least his channel’s name. You may not know his real name. Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.98,0:00:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s Richard. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.69,0:00:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s time. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.80,0:00:54.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[heartbeat] Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.06,0:00:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To interview. Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.26,0:00:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[heartbeat] Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.29,0:01:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vegan Gains!!!! Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.74,0:01:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi it’s Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome\Nto another vegan nugget. The most trending, Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.45,0:01:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fastest-growing and most polarizing vegan\Nchannel is that of Vegan Gains. He came on Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.83,0:01:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scene Dec 14, 2014, literally almost exactly\Nsix months ago, and exploded to where he’s Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.43,0:01:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now at almost 55,000 subscribers, which he\Nhas most likely blown past by the time I post this. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.10,0:01:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the first day of 2015 he launched what\Nis now his flagship series, Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.68,0:01:48.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Worse of the Fitness Industry. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.97,0:01:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I interviewed Richard we of course\Nhad to address this viral and incredibly controversial series. Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.40,0:01:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, Richard, I just want to thank you so\Nmuch for taking time out of your schedule Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.18,0:02:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk to my viewers and to give us your\Nown experience. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.97,0:02:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, no problem. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.98,0:02:10.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, so first, can you just tell\Nus a little bit about yourself, like when Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.83,0:02:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you went vegan and why? And then a little\Nbit...ah, just start with when you went vegan and why? Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.57,0:02:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, well I went vegan about 4 years\Nago. It was back in April, so a little over Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.01,0:02:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,4 years now. And um, I watched a Gary Yourofsky\Nvideo, somebody linked it on facebook. And Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.02,0:02:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was like ‘hmm, well I’m not into veganism’,\Nbut I was interested in it. I’ve never heard Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.04,0:02:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any great arguments about going vegan until\Nthen. All the vegans I knew, they were like Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.60,0:02:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘oh, you have to end animal suffering and\Neverything’. I was a little disconnected Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.49,0:02:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back then. I didn’t really get it, the whole\Nanimal suffering thing and I thought you needed Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.42,0:02:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat meat for health, so I thought that\Nkind of justified it. And then I watched Gary’s Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.58,0:03:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video and it just totally flipped things around.\NHe made me get more of an emotional connection Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.27,0:03:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than I’ve ever had before and I also never\Nknew animal products caused heart disease, Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.22,0:03:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes, cancer, and then I ended up learning\Nabout doctors, Colin Campbell, and Caldwell Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.80,0:03:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Esselstyn, and stuff like that. And then just,\Nright that day, went vegan. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.44,0:03:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Awesome, so you’ve been vegan for\Nabout 4 years. How long have you been an athlete? Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.98,0:03:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve been training since I was\Na little kid, like doing hockey, so just my Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.52,0:03:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entire life basically, but weight training\Nspecifically, it’s been about 8 years. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.31,0:03:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for those people on Youtube who\Nmost likely, if they watch my videos, they Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.67,0:03:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know you. You’re known as Vegan Gains who\Ndoes these incredible, incredibly like caustic, Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.94,0:03:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a certain extent, callouts of people in\Nthe fitness industry. So, I just wanted to Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.34,0:03:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about that, I mean, you call it ‘the\Nworse of the fitness industries; the series’. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.81,0:04:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you think that the industry and individuals\Nwithin it need to be criticized? Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.35,0:04:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, they’re just...like it’s\Nweird. The whole bodybuilding thing, that’s Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.24,0:04:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it really is, the fitness industry who\Nfocus on bodybuilders, physique competitors, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.59,0:04:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bikini models. It is just such a negative\Nthing for people, not only help wise, but Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.92,0:04:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just mentally. And if you look at the comments\Nit’s a lot of younger kids in their teens Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.35,0:04:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and early 20’s who are saying, ‘your arms\Nare so skinny’. It’s like, my arms are Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.90,0:04:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally bigger than my head and they’re\Ncalling me skinny. They’re causing like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.94,0:04:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mental illness and they really need to be\Ncalled out for this. It’s not just a health Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.93,0:04:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing, it’s a mental health issue. And it’s\Njust, in every freakin way, it’s the most Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.25,0:04:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unhealthy thing you can possibly think of.\NThey’re kids like...I get messages a lot Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.61,0:05:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kids saying, ‘wow, you really opened my\Neyes. I didn’t realize I had an eating disorder Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.09,0:05:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until now’. They actually don’t know that\Nthey have eating disorders and these people Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.18,0:05:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are driving these crazy, retarded, starvation\Ndiets, and they’re taking steroids, not Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.98,0:05:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telling people. They have these massive fuckin\Narms, huge shoulders and they’re injecting Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.10,0:05:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Synthol, and it’s all fake. Everything is\Nfake and people think it’s real, and they’re Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.85,0:05:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just going after this stupid ideal body image,\Nand just really ruining their entire freakin lives up. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.82,0:05:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They really need to be fuckin called\Nout. People say I’m harsh but they’re Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.51,0:05:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally ruining lives. They’re shortening\Ntheir lives just from all the meat and crap Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.60,0:05:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re eating but just from a mental health,\Nand just general all around quality of life, it's just terrible. Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.16,0:05:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s good to\Nhave, especially more of a focus, and I know Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.81,0:05:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you hit both sides, but this side of male\Nbody dysmorphic disorders, and the hidden Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.79,0:06:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world of male eating disorders. Because it’s\Nnot seen as that, it’s seen as ‘getting Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.43,0:06:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pumped’ or ‘getting tough’. But just\Nas for, and I know you have pointing this Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.64,0:06:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out, just as for females who can never get small\Nenough, males feel like they can never get Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.94,0:06:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big enough, and it’s the other side of the\Nsame spectrum. So, this may seem a bit of Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.92,0:06:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a stupid question, but you utilize a lot of\Npeer reviewed studies in your videos that Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.35,0:06:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you link up in your description. Why should\Npeople go by these empirical studies that Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.88,0:06:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been done rather than the apparent results\Nthat people seem to have? I think there can Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.51,0:06:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be this idea that, well isn’t someone’s\Nmuscle growth or their weight loss more concrete Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.09,0:06:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than some numbers some scientists, you know,\Ndreamed up? Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.05,0:06:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, well...you can have the worst\Ndiet imaginable and still lose weight. There Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.39,0:06:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are people who have lost weight on twinkie\Ndiets. Literally, there are studies done on Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.78,0:06:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twinkie diets and people have lost weight,\Nlowered their cholesterol, and all that. Obviously Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.29,0:07:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,twinkies are unhealthy, and especially when\Nyou factor in, these people are insanely genetically Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.29,0:07:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gifted. They’re just in the top top genetically,\Nforget steroids, they’re still...even if Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.74,0:07:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take all the drugs in the world, you’ll\Nnever get like them. Plus, they have an insane Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.60,0:07:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amount of steroid use and an insane amount\Nof hard work, and they’re just so mentally Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.90,0:07:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driven to do this. You factor in all those\Nthings together, these anecdotes just really Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.21,0:07:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don’t make any sense. So, it’s really\Nbest to rely on the scientific data because Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.90,0:07:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re just so far out of anyone’s reach,\Ntheir genetics, their steroid use, their hard Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.99,0:07:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work. It’s just not going to apply to you\Nso...yeah, focus on the research, something Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.03,0:07:45.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empirical that you can actually measure rather\Nthan just these crazy people who just don’t... Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.41,0:07:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...you know, come anywhere close to you at all. You\Nshould just focus on the research. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.29,0:07:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you did, I can’t remember, have\Nyou done... Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.71,0:07:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...you actually done competitive bodybuilding at one point? Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.04,0:07:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.96,0:08:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what is it that, I know we’ve\Ntalked a little bit before about the horrors Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.23,0:08:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that industry to an extent. What is it\Nthat you personally….what happened where Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.42,0:08:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you personally decided, okay I’m going to\Nstop this and I’m not going to do this anymore? Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.45,0:08:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it was more of a gradually\Nthing. The last show, I really tried my absolute Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.55,0:08:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hardest to do my best for that show. And you\Nknow, it’s such a mental drain on you, like Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.65,0:08:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dieting...anyone can throw weights around\Nin the gym, that’s easy, but dieting for Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.34,0:08:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a show. I don’t think anyone who’s ever\Ncompeted before just understands how insanely Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.37,0:08:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult it is. You just have to take it\Nto the absolute limit and those days leading Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.39,0:08:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up before the show, you literally think, you’re\Nnot gonna make it, and you feel like you’re Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.21,0:08:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna die. I can normally curl 60lbs. and\NI’m pretty strong, but a few days before Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.80,0:09:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the show I can only lift 20lbs., and I looked\Nstrong but you are that...just dead from dieting. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.83,0:09:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just didn’t want to go through that\Nagain, and my eyes were opening up to what Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.79,0:09:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industry really is. And after that I just,\Nyou know, I thought I was going to compete Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.56,0:09:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then I learned about the high carb vegan\Nthing. You don’t have to restrict calories Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.56,0:09:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I basically got rid of my body image issues\Ntoo. So, yeah that just made me kind of quit Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.37,0:09:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodybuilding and give that up. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.69,0:09:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could accomplish one thing with\Nyour ‘worst of the fitness industry’ videos, Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.78,0:09:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is it that you’re hoping to accomplish\Nwith them? Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.26,0:09:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I just want people to realize\Nthat just because these people look good and Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.84,0:09:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they seem nice, they’re not really trying\Nto help you out. They want to sell supplements. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.62,0:09:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want to sell their lifestyle. They want\Nto get money from sponsors. And all of this Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.16,0:09:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just completely unrealistic. I think people\Nshould just focus on health and if you want Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.37,0:10:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be athletic, and go after some real athletic\Ngoals, then you shouldn’t really be focusing Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.76,0:10:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on these bodybuilders because they’re not\Nreally athletic. They’re really out of shape, Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.21,0:10:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really. If you take a look, especially leading\Nup to the show. To diet down that much you Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.61,0:10:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can’t maintain any level of athleticism, you need some body fat. So, just be healthy, Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.02,0:10:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat well, don’t eat a ton of freakin meat.\NHopefully that at least stops people from Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.75,0:10:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating so much meat. Yeah, that’s basically\Nit. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.86,0:10:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there anything else you would like to say regarding that series of yours? Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.77,0:10:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people say it’s about\Njealousy that I’m doing it or it’s about Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.81,0:10:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hating on people, and it’s not jealousy.\NI’m not jealous or...I don’t really even Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.22,0:10:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily hate any of these people. Some\Nof them, I think they really do believe what Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.89,0:10:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re saying, and people just need some\Nperspective. Just look at the videos objectively. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.57,0:11:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just get some new perspective on things. It’s\Nnot about hating. It’s not about jealousy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.71,0:11:09.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want people to open their eyes and\Njust see the other side of things, and see Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.27,0:11:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what’s really going on behind the scenes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.59,0:11:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, well thank you so much for\Nyour time and thank you for what you do with Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.81,0:11:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to let people know the dangers that\Nare out there within the fitness industry. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.15,0:11:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright, no problem. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.28,0:11:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope you enjoyed hearing from Richard on\Nhis flagship series. If you don’t like the Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.57,0:11:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way he approaches his activism or feel that he’s\Ntoo harsh, I’ll reiterate my thoughts from Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.72,0:11:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my controversy video: go do your own form\Nof activism with all that you’ve got. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.48,0:11:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To paraphrase Gary Yourofsky’s paraphrasing\Nof what Martin Luther King said when asked Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.83,0:11:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop Malcom X’s violent rhetoric, Vegan\NGains will stop being so insane when the fitness Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.04,0:11:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry stops being so insane. You want to\Nshut him up? Help end the cruelty and misinformation Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.11,0:12:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he’s reacting to. Be proactive. Be active,\Nperiod. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.24,0:12:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I’d love to hear what you thought of\Nthe interview and Richard’s approach to Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.49,0:12:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activism in the comments below. Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.64,0:12:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you enjoyed hearing from Richard, give\Nthis video a big thumbs up and share it around Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.39,0:12:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help bring light to the insanity of the\Nfitness industry. If you’re new here, do Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.71,0:12:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hit that big red subscribe button down there\Nfor more awesome vegan content every Monday, Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.52,0:12:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wednesday, and some Fridays and to not miss\Nout the on the rest of the Vegan Athlete series. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.65,0:12:30.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to help support Bite Size Vegan,\Ncheck out either of the support links in the Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.50,0:12:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video description below or click on the Nugget\NArmy icon, or the link in the sidebar. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.27,0:12:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now go live vegan, make some vegan gains...I'm not gonna do the thing Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.21,0:12:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause it would just be ...depressing in comparison Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.16,0:12:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I’ll see you soon. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.75,0:12:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just like...I’m still amazed by your arms, like...what\Nis, how is…yeah... Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.61,0:12:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...I measured them like a year\Nago and they were over 19 inches, and I think they're 20 now. Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.64,0:13:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s crazy. That’s like...like an infant in there….[laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.63,0:13:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[music playing]