[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it all came to life Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a dark bar in Madrid. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I encountered my colleague\Nfrom McGill, Michael Meaney. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we were drinking a few beers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and like scientists do, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he told me about his work. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he told me that he is interested Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how mother rats Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lick their pups Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after they were born. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was sitting there and saying, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is where my tax dollars are wasted, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this kind of soft science. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And started telling me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when the rats, like humans, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lick their pups in very different ways. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some mothers do a lot of that, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some mothers do very little, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most are in between. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what's interesting about it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when he follows these pups\Nwhen they become adults, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like years in human life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long after their mother died, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are completely different animals. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The animals that were licked\Nand groomed heavily, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the high licking and grooming, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not stressed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have different sexual behavior. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have a different way of living Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than those that were not treated Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as intensively by their mothers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then I was thinking to myself, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this magic? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How does this work? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Us geneticists would like you to think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps the mother had\Nthe bad mother gene Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that caused her pups to be stressful, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it was passed\Nfrom generation to generation. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all determined by genetics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is it possible that something else Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going on? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in rats we can ask this question Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and answer it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we did is\Na cross-fostering experiment. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You essentially separate the litter, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the babies of this rat, at birth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to two kinds of fostering mothers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the real mothers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but mothers that will take care of them, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high-licking mothers\Nand low-licking mothers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can do the opposite\Nwith the low-licking pups. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the remarkable answer was, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't important Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the gene you got from your mother. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not the biological mother\Nthat defined this property Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these rats. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the mother that\Ntook care of the pups. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how can this work? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am an a epigeneticist. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am interested Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how genes are marked by a chemical mark Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during embryogenesis, during the time\Nwe're in the womb of our mothers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and decide which gene will be expressed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in what tissue. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Different genes are expressed in the brain\Nthan in the liver and the eye. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we thought, is it possible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the mother is somehow Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reprogramming the gene of her offspring Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through her behavior? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we spent 10 years, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we found that there is\Na cascade of biochemical events Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by which the licking and grooming\Nof the mother, the care of the mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is translated to biochemical signals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that go into the nucleus and into the DNA Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and program it differently. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now the animal can\Nprepare itself for life. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is life going to be harsh? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there going to be a lot of food? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are there going to be a lot\Nof cats and snakes around, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or will I live in an upper\Nclass neighborhood Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where all I have to do\Nis behave well and proper Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that will gain me social acceptance? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now one can think about\Nhow important that process can be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our lives. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We inherit our DNA from our ancestors. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The DNA is old. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It evolved during evolution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it doesn't tell us if you are going\Nto be born in Stockholm, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the days are long in the summer\Nand short in the winter, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in Ecuador, where equal number\Nof hours for day and night Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all year round. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that has such an enormous amount\Non our physiology. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we suggest is perhaps\Nwhat happens early in life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those signals that come through the mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell the child Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what kind of social world\Nyou're going to be living in. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be harsh, and you'd better\Nbe anxious and be stressful, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it's going to be an easy world,\Nand you have to be different. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it going to be a world\Nwith a lot of light or little light? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it going to be a world\Nwith a lot of food or little food? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there's no food around, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'd better develop your brain\Nto binge whenever you see a meal, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or store every piece of food\Nthat you have as fat. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is good. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Evolution has selected this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to allow our fixed, old DNA Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to function in a dynamic way Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in new environments. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes things can go wrong. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, if you're born\Nto a poor family, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the signals are, "You'd better binge. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'd better eat every piece of food\Nyou're going to encounter." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now we humans\Nand our brain have evolved, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have changed evolution even faster. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you can buy a McDonald's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for one dollar. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therefore, the preparation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by our mothers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is turning to be maladaptive. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same preparation that was\Nsupposed to protect us Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from hunger and famine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to cause obesity, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cardiovascular problems,\Nand metabolic disease. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this concept that genes\Ncould be marked by our experience, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and especially the early life experience, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can provide us a unifying explanation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of both health and disease. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But is true only for rats? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is, we cannot\Ntest this in humans, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because ethically, we cannot\Nadminister child adversity Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a random way. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if a poor child develops\Na certain property, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't know whether this is caused Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by poverty Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whether poor people have bad genes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So geneticists will try to tell you\Nthat poor people are poor Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because their genes make them poor. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Epigeneticists will tell you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poor people are in a bad environment\Nor an impoverished environment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that creates that phenotype,\Nthat property. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we moved to look Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into our cousins, the monkeys. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My colleague Steven Soomey Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been rearing monkeys\Nin two different ways: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,randomly separated the monkey\Nfrom the mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reared her with a nurse, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a surrogate motherhood conditions. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these monkeys didn't have a mother. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had a nurse. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And other monkeys Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were reared with their normal,\Nnatural mothers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when they were old, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were completely different animals. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The monkeys that had a mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would not care about alcohol, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were not sexually aggressive. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The monkeys that didn't have a mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were aggressive, were stressed, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and were alcoholics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we looked at their DNA Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early after birth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and see is it possible\Nthat the mother is marking. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a signature of the mother\Nin the DNA of the offspring. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are Day 14 monkeys, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what you see here is the modern way\Nby which we study epigenetics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can now map those chemical marks,\Nwhich we call methylation marks, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on DNA at a single nucleotide resolution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can map the entire genome. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can now compare the monkey\Nthat had a mother and not. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's a visual presentation of this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What you see is the genes that\Ngot more methylated are red. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The genes that got less\Nmethylated are green. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see many genes are changing, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because not having a mother Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not just one thing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It affects the whole way, it sends\Na signals about the whole way Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your world is going to look like Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you become an adult, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can see the two groups of monkey Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely well separated from each other. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How early does this develop? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These monkeys already didn't\Nsee their mothers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they had a social experience. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do we sense our social status Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even at the moment of birth? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this experiment,\Nwe took placentas Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of monkeys Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had different social status. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's interesting about social rank Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that across all living beings, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will structure themselves\Nby hierarchy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monkey number one is the boss. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monkey number four is the peon. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you put four monkeys in a cage, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will always be a boss\Nand always be a peon. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's interesting is that\Nthe monkey number one Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is much healthier than monkey number four, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you put them in a cage, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monkey number one will not eat as much. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monkey number four will eat as much. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what you see here in this\Nmethylation mapping, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a dramatic separation at birth Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the animals that had\Na high social status Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus the animals that did not\Nhave a high status. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are born already knowing\Nthe social information, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that social information\Nis not bad or good. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It just prepares us for life,\Nbecause we have to program Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our biology differently Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we are in the high\Nor the low social status. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how can you study this in humans? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can't do experiments, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can't administer adversity to humans, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but God does experiments with humans, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's called natural disasters. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of the natural disasters, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hardest natural disaster\Nin Canadian history happened Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my province of Quebec. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the ice storm of 1998. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lost our entire electrical grid\Nbecause of an ice storm Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the temperatures were in\Nthe dead of winter in Quebec, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minus 20 to minus 30, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were pregnant\Nmothers during that time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my colleague Suzanne King Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,followed the children of these mothers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 15 years. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that as the stress increased, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and here we had objective\Nmeasures of stress -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how long you were without power,\Nwhere did you spend your time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was it in your mother's in law apartment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or in some posh country home? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so all of these added up\Nto a social stress scale, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can ask the question, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how did the children look like? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it appears that as stress increases, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the children develop more autism, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they develop more metabolic diseases, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they develop more autoimmune diseases. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we would map the methylation state,\Nand again you see the green genes Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becoming red as stress increases, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the red genes becoming green\Nas stress increases, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an entire rearrangement\Nof the genome in response to stress. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we can program genes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we are not just the slaves\Nof the history of our genes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they could be programmed,\Ncan we deprogram them? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because epigenetic causes can cause\Ndiseases like cancer, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic disease, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mental health disease. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's talk about cocaine addiction. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cocaine addiction is a terrible situation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can lead to death Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to loss of human life. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We asked the question, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we reprogram the addicted brain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make that animal Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-addicted anymore? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used a cocaine addiction model Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that recapitulates what happens in humans. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In humans, you're in high school, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some friends suggest you some cocaine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take cocaine, nothing happens, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months pass by, something reminds you\Nof what happened the first time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a pusher pushes cocaine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you become addicted, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your life has changed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In rats, we do the same thing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My colleague [??] did. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He trains the animals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get used to cocaine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then for one month, no cocaine, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he reminds them of the party\Nwhen they saw the cocaine the first time Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the colors of the cage\Nwhen they saw cocaine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they go crazy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They will press the lever to get cocaine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until they die. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We first determined Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the difference between these animals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that during that time\Nwhen nothing happens, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no cocaine around, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their epigenome is rearranged. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their genes are remarked\Nin a different way, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when the cue comes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their genome is ready Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to develop this addictive phenotype. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we treated these animals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with drugs that either increase Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DNA methylation, which was\Nthe epigenetic marker to look at, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or decrease epigenetic markings. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we found that if we\Nincreased methylation, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these animals go even crazier. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They become more craving for cocaine. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we reduce the DNA methylation, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the animals are not addicted anymore. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have reprogrammed them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a fundamental difference\Nbetween an epigenetic drug Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and any other drug Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that with epigenetic drugs,\Nwe essentially remove Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the signs of experience, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once they're gone, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will not come back\Nunless you have the same experience. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the animal now is reprogrammed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we visited the animals\N30 days, 60 days longer, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is in human terms\Nmany years of life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were still not addicted Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by a single epigenetic treatment. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what we learned about DNA? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The DNA is not just a sequence of letters. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just a script. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,DNA is a dynamic movie. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our experiences are being\Nwritten into this movie, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is interactive. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are like watching a movie\Nof your life with the DNA Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your remote control. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can remove an actor and add an actor. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so you have, in spite\Nof deterministic nature of genetics, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have control of the way\Nyour genes look like, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this has a tremendous\Noptimistic message Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for ability to now encounter\Nsome of the deadly diseases Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like cancer, mental health, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with new approach Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at them as maladaptations Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if we can epigenetically intervene, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reverse the movie Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by removing an actor Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and setting up a new narrative. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what I told you today is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that our DNA is really combined Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of two components, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two layers of information. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One layer of information is old,\Nevolved from millions of years Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of evolution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is fixed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very hard to change. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other layer of information\Nis the epigenetic layer Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is open and dynamic Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sets up a narrative Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is interactive, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allows us to control, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a large extent, our destiny, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help the destiny of our children, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to hopefully conquer disease Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and serious health challenges Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have plagued humankind\Nfor a long time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So even though we are determined Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by our genes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have a degree of freedom Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can set up our life\Nto a life of responsibility. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)