(ESTV - The Best Teachers in the World Clip 1)
[Jeff Selingo] ....... in the book, between recruiting better teachers
and better students to become teachers and training of teachers,
and talking about quality instructors, what's more important?
Is it recruiting the best person upfront or does training matter just as much or even more,
in terms of that, in terms of that would-be teacher?
[John Chubb] Well, the evidence - the evidence on what drives teachers' quality
is essentially - and this is the first great part - is essentially
that most of the skills that teachers demonstrate in the classroom tend to be learned in the classroom, right?
So - so, selection matters, aptitude matters, certain affect of predisposition,
emotional affective attributes matter.
And there has been a lot of research on this, and there are screening tools
that school districts can use to identify people who have a higher probability of success.
But in the end, the dominant explanation of success is what teachers learn on the job, right?
So - so training is critical - training is critical.
Most of it right now is done pre-service and what's done in-service leaves a lot to be desired.
And there's a tremendous amount of research on professional development,
which I review in the book, and it's overwhelmingly negative.
And in school districts, people who are responsible for professional development understand this,
but there hasn't been a lot of improvement.
But the evidence suggests that teachers do learn on the job, they learn differentially.
So not - by the time teachers are four years on the job, some of them are unbelievably great
and some of them really haven't made it. So -
[Selingo] So then, why do we need training programs at all,
I mean, why don't we just pick the best students from
- in some ways, like Teach For America teach the best students?