WEBVTT 00:00:01.190 --> 00:00:05.718 I'd like to introduce you to an emerging area of science, 00:00:05.742 --> 00:00:09.685 one that is still speculative but hugely exciting, 00:00:09.709 --> 00:00:12.338 and certainly one that's growing very rapidly. 00:00:13.448 --> 00:00:17.496 Quantum biology asks a very simple question: 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:18.870 Does quantum mechanics -- 00:00:18.894 --> 00:00:22.196 that weird and wonderful and powerful theory 00:00:22.220 --> 00:00:24.908 of the subatomic world of atoms and molecules 00:00:24.932 --> 00:00:28.420 that underpins so much of modern physics and chemistry -- 00:00:28.444 --> 00:00:31.856 also play a role inside the living cell? 00:00:31.880 --> 00:00:35.959 In other words: Are there processes, mechanisms, phenomena 00:00:35.983 --> 00:00:39.971 in living organisms that can only be explained 00:00:39.995 --> 00:00:42.738 with a helping hand from quantum mechanics? 00:00:43.546 --> 00:00:45.183 Now, quantum biology isn't new; 00:00:45.207 --> 00:00:47.608 it's been around since the early 1930s. 00:00:47.928 --> 00:00:51.643 But it's only in the last decade or so that careful experiments -- 00:00:51.667 --> 00:00:55.131 in biochemistry labs, using spectroscopy -- 00:00:55.155 --> 00:01:02.018 have shown very clear, firm evidence that there are certain specific mechanisms 00:01:02.042 --> 00:01:04.553 that require quantum mechanics to explain them. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:05.674 --> 00:01:09.003 Quantum biology brings together quantum physicists, biochemists, 00:01:09.027 --> 00:01:12.668 molecular biologists -- it's a very interdisciplinary field. 00:01:12.692 --> 00:01:16.621 I come from quantum physics, so I'm a nuclear physicist. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:16.645 --> 00:01:18.910 I've spent more than three decades NOTE Paragraph 00:01:18.934 --> 00:01:21.863 trying to get my head around quantum mechanics. 00:01:21.887 --> 00:01:24.380 One of the founders of quantum mechanics, Niels Bohr, 00:01:24.404 --> 00:01:27.754 said, "If you're not astonished by it, then you haven't understood it." 00:01:28.237 --> 00:01:31.080 So I sort of feel happy that I'm still astonished by it. 00:01:31.104 --> 00:01:32.849 That's a good thing. 00:01:32.873 --> 00:01:39.758 But it means I study the very smallest structures in the universe -- 00:01:39.782 --> 00:01:41.857 the building blocks of reality. 00:01:41.881 --> 00:01:45.096 If we think about the scale of size, 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.072 start with an everyday object like the tennis ball, 00:01:48.096 --> 00:01:50.997 and just go down orders of magnitude in size -- 00:01:51.021 --> 00:01:56.218 from the eye of a needle down to a cell, down to a bacterium, down to an enzyme -- 00:01:56.242 --> 00:01:57.971 you eventually reach the nano-world. 00:01:57.995 --> 00:02:00.490 Now, nanotechnology may be a term you've heard of. 00:02:00.841 --> 00:02:03.694 A nanometer is a billionth of a meter. 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:08.930 My area is the atomic nucleus, which is the tiny dot inside an atom. 00:02:08.954 --> 00:02:10.886 It's even smaller in scale. 00:02:10.910 --> 00:02:12.828 This is the domain of quantum mechanics, 00:02:12.852 --> 00:02:15.368 and physicists and chemists have had a long time 00:02:15.392 --> 00:02:16.693 to try and get used to it. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:17.248 --> 00:02:21.705 Biologists, on the other hand, have got off lightly, in my view. 00:02:22.071 --> 00:02:26.402 They are very happy with their balls-and-sticks models of molecules. 00:02:26.426 --> 00:02:27.508 (Laughter) 00:02:27.532 --> 00:02:30.730 The balls are the atoms, the sticks are the bonds between the atoms. 00:02:30.754 --> 00:02:33.248 And when they can't build them physically in the lab, 00:02:33.272 --> 00:02:35.664 nowadays, they have very powerful computers 00:02:35.688 --> 00:02:37.655 that will simulate a huge molecule. 00:02:37.679 --> 00:02:41.343 This is a protein made up of 100,000 atoms. 00:02:42.003 --> 00:02:46.338 It doesn't really require much in the way of quantum mechanics to explain it. 00:02:47.695 --> 00:02:50.584 Quantum mechanics was developed in the 1920s. 00:02:50.965 --> 00:02:57.845 It is a set of beautiful and powerful mathematical rules and ideas 00:02:57.869 --> 00:03:00.477 that explain the world of the very small. 00:03:00.501 --> 00:03:03.873 And it's a world that's very different from our everyday world, 00:03:03.897 --> 00:03:05.416 made up of trillions of atoms. 00:03:05.440 --> 00:03:08.997 It's a world built on probability and chance. 00:03:09.818 --> 00:03:11.120 It's a fuzzy world. 00:03:11.144 --> 00:03:12.874 It's a world of phantoms, 00:03:12.898 --> 00:03:16.246 where particles can also behave like spread-out waves. 00:03:18.157 --> 00:03:21.019 If we imagine quantum mechanics or quantum physics, then, 00:03:21.043 --> 00:03:26.257 as the fundamental foundation of reality itself, 00:03:26.281 --> 00:03:28.011 then it's not surprising that we say 00:03:28.035 --> 00:03:30.455 quantum physics underpins organic chemistry. 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.599 After all, it gives us the rules that tell us 00:03:32.623 --> 00:03:35.264 how the atoms fit together to make organic molecules. 00:03:35.288 --> 00:03:38.527 Organic chemistry, scaled up in complexity, 00:03:38.551 --> 00:03:41.873 gives us molecular biology, which of course leads to life itself. 00:03:42.174 --> 00:03:44.151 So in a way, it's sort of not surprising. 00:03:44.175 --> 00:03:45.389 It's almost trivial. 00:03:45.413 --> 00:03:49.633 You say, "Well, of course life ultimately must depend of quantum mechanics." 00:03:50.141 --> 00:03:52.531 But so does everything else. 00:03:52.555 --> 00:03:56.170 So does all inanimate matter, made up of trillions of atoms. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:56.501 --> 00:04:01.379 Ultimately, there's a quantum level 00:04:01.403 --> 00:04:03.586 where we have to delve into this weirdness. 00:04:03.610 --> 00:04:06.026 But in everyday life, we can forget about it. 00:04:06.404 --> 00:04:09.603 Because once you put together trillions of atoms, 00:04:09.627 --> 00:04:12.242 that quantum weirdness just dissolves away. 00:04:15.288 --> 00:04:17.857 Quantum biology isn't about this. 00:04:17.881 --> 00:04:20.437 Quantum biology isn't this obvious. 00:04:20.461 --> 00:04:24.690 Of course quantum mechanics underpins life at some molecular level. 00:04:25.254 --> 00:04:31.258 Quantum biology is about looking for the non-trivial -- 00:04:31.282 --> 00:04:35.758 the counterintuitive ideas in quantum mechanics -- 00:04:35.782 --> 00:04:38.797 and to see if they do, indeed, play an important role 00:04:38.821 --> 00:04:41.273 in describing the processes of life. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:42.653 --> 00:04:47.873 Here is my perfect example of the counterintuitiveness 00:04:47.897 --> 00:04:49.343 of the quantum world. 00:04:49.367 --> 00:04:50.618 This is the quantum skier. 00:04:50.642 --> 00:04:53.282 He seems to be intact, he seems to be perfectly healthy, 00:04:53.306 --> 00:04:57.433 and yet, he seems to have gone around both sides of that tree at the same time. 00:04:57.457 --> 00:04:59.120 Well, if you saw tracks like that 00:04:59.144 --> 00:05:01.453 you'd guess it was some sort of stunt, of course. 00:05:01.477 --> 00:05:04.068 But in the quantum world, this happens all the time. 00:05:04.864 --> 00:05:07.890 Particles can multitask, they can be in two places at once. 00:05:07.914 --> 00:05:10.242 They can do more than one thing at the same time. 00:05:10.266 --> 00:05:12.909 Particles can behave like spread-out waves. 00:05:13.298 --> 00:05:14.897 It's almost like magic. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:15.538 --> 00:05:18.287 Physicists and chemists have had nearly a century 00:05:18.311 --> 00:05:20.957 of trying to get used to this weirdness. 00:05:21.445 --> 00:05:22.795 I don't blame the biologists 00:05:22.819 --> 00:05:25.454 for not having to or wanting to learn quantum mechanics. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:25.478 --> 00:05:28.676 You see, this weirdness is very delicate; NOTE Paragraph 00:05:28.700 --> 00:05:33.150 and we physicists work very hard to maintain it on our labs. 00:05:33.174 --> 00:05:37.378 We cool our system down to near absolute zero, 00:05:37.402 --> 00:05:39.347 we carry out our experiments in vacuums, 00:05:39.371 --> 00:05:42.898 we try and isolate it from any external disturbance. 00:05:43.602 --> 00:05:48.680 That's very different from the warm, messy, noisy environment of a living cell. 00:05:49.960 --> 00:05:52.747 Biology itself, if you think of molecular biology, 00:05:52.771 --> 00:05:56.228 seems to have done very well in describing all the processes of life 00:05:56.252 --> 00:05:58.738 in terms of chemistry -- chemical reactions. 00:05:58.762 --> 00:06:03.612 And these are reductionist, deterministic chemical reactions, 00:06:03.636 --> 00:06:08.750 showing that, essentially, life is made of the same stuff as everything else, 00:06:08.774 --> 00:06:11.834 and if we can forget about quantum mechanics in the macro world, 00:06:11.858 --> 00:06:15.104 then we should be able to forget about it in biology, as well. 00:06:15.706 --> 00:06:19.070 Well, one man begged to differ with this idea. 00:06:20.062 --> 00:06:23.531 Erwin Schrödinger, of Schrödinger's Cat fame, 00:06:23.555 --> 00:06:24.872 was an Austrian physicist. 00:06:24.896 --> 00:06:28.079 He was one of the founders of quantum mechanics in the 1920s. 00:06:28.663 --> 00:06:31.370 In 1944, he wrote a book called "What is Life?" 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:33.570 It was tremendously influential. 00:06:33.594 --> 00:06:36.475 It influenced Francis Crick and James Watson, 00:06:36.499 --> 00:06:39.022 the discoverers of the double-helix structure of DNA. 00:06:39.343 --> 00:06:43.011 To paraphrase a description in the book, he says: 00:06:43.035 --> 00:06:48.821 At the molecular level, living organisms have a certain order, 00:06:48.845 --> 00:06:52.077 a structure to them that's very different 00:06:52.101 --> 00:06:56.837 from the random thermodynamic jostling of atoms and molecules 00:06:56.861 --> 00:07:00.567 in inanimate matter of the same complexity. 00:07:01.504 --> 00:07:06.518 In fact, living matter seems to behave in this order, in a structure, 00:07:06.542 --> 00:07:10.376 just like inanimate matter cooled down to near absolute zero, 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:13.433 where quantum effects play a very important role. 00:07:14.280 --> 00:07:18.440 There's something special about the structure -- the order -- 00:07:18.464 --> 00:07:20.024 inside a living cell. 00:07:20.048 --> 00:07:25.341 So, Schrödinger speculated that maybe quantum mechanics plays a role in life. 00:07:26.096 --> 00:07:29.521 It's a very speculative, far-reaching idea, 00:07:29.545 --> 00:07:32.418 and it didn't really go very far. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:33.536 --> 00:07:35.069 But as I mentioned at the start, 00:07:35.093 --> 00:07:37.892 in the last 10 years, there have been experiments emerging, 00:07:37.916 --> 00:07:41.971 showing where some of these certain phenomena in biology 00:07:41.995 --> 00:07:43.758 do seem to require quantum mechanics. 00:07:43.782 --> 00:07:46.905 I want to share with you just a few of the exciting ones. 00:07:48.215 --> 00:07:51.922 This is one of the best-known phenomena in the quantum world, 00:07:51.946 --> 00:07:53.647 quantum tunneling. 00:07:53.671 --> 00:07:58.060 The box on the left shows the wavelike, spread-out distribution 00:07:58.084 --> 00:08:00.845 of a quantum entity -- a particle, like an electron, 00:08:00.869 --> 00:08:04.506 which is not a little ball bouncing off a wall. 00:08:04.530 --> 00:08:09.269 It's a wave that has a certain probability of being able to permeate 00:08:09.293 --> 00:08:12.699 through a solid wall, like a phantom leaping through to the other side. 00:08:12.723 --> 00:08:16.821 You can see a faint smudge of light in the right-hand box. 00:08:17.773 --> 00:08:22.385 Quantum tunneling suggests that a particle can hit an impenetrable barrier, 00:08:22.409 --> 00:08:24.869 and yet somehow, as though by magic, 00:08:24.893 --> 00:08:27.337 disappear from one side and reappear on the other. 00:08:27.658 --> 00:08:31.909 The nicest way of explaining it is if you want to throw a ball over a wall, 00:08:31.933 --> 00:08:35.510 you have to give it enough energy to get over the top of the wall. 00:08:35.534 --> 00:08:38.592 In the quantum world, you don't have to throw it over the wall, 00:08:38.616 --> 00:08:42.023 you can throw it at the wall, and there's a certain non-zero probability 00:08:42.047 --> 00:08:45.370 that it'll disappear on your side, and reappear on the other. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:45.394 --> 00:08:47.072 This isn't speculation, by the way. 00:08:47.096 --> 00:08:50.492 We're happy -- well, "happy" is not the right word -- 00:08:50.516 --> 00:08:52.561 (Laughter) 00:08:52.585 --> 00:08:54.203 We are familiar with this. 00:08:54.227 --> 00:08:56.972 (Laughter) 00:08:56.996 --> 00:08:59.290 Quantum tunneling takes place all the time; 00:08:59.314 --> 00:09:01.981 in fact, it's the reason our sun shines. 00:09:02.655 --> 00:09:04.164 The particles fuse together, 00:09:04.188 --> 00:09:07.886 and the Sun turns hydrogen into helium through quantum tunneling. 00:09:09.464 --> 00:09:14.684 Back in the 70s and 80s, it was discovered that quantum tunneling also takes place 00:09:14.708 --> 00:09:15.900 inside living cells. 00:09:16.290 --> 00:09:22.556 Enzymes, those workhorses of life, the catalysts of chemical reactions -- 00:09:22.580 --> 00:09:26.746 enzymes are biomolecules that speed up chemical reactions in living cells, 00:09:26.770 --> 00:09:28.473 by many, many orders of magnitude. 00:09:28.497 --> 00:09:31.281 And it's always been a mystery how they do this. 00:09:31.650 --> 00:09:32.839 Well, it was discovered 00:09:32.863 --> 00:09:37.715 that one of the tricks that enzymes have evolved to make use of, 00:09:37.739 --> 00:09:42.967 is by transferring subatomic particles, like electrons and indeed protons, 00:09:42.991 --> 00:09:47.652 from one part of a molecule to another via quantum tunneling. 00:09:48.333 --> 00:09:51.184 It's efficient, it's fast, it can disappear -- 00:09:51.208 --> 00:09:54.319 a proton can disappear from one place, and reappear on the other. 00:09:54.343 --> 00:09:55.972 Enzymes help this take place. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:56.548 --> 00:09:59.231 This is research that's been carried out back in the 80s, 00:09:59.255 --> 00:10:03.292 particularly by a group in Berkeley, Judith Klinman. 00:10:03.316 --> 00:10:05.521 Other groups in the UK have now also confirmed 00:10:05.545 --> 00:10:06.956 that enzymes really do this. 00:10:09.048 --> 00:10:11.597 Research carried out by my group -- 00:10:11.621 --> 00:10:14.055 so as I mentioned, I'm a nuclear physicist, 00:10:14.079 --> 00:10:17.134 but I've realized I've got these tools of using quantum mechanics 00:10:17.158 --> 00:10:22.243 in atomic nuclei, and so can apply those tools in other areas as well. 00:10:23.404 --> 00:10:25.214 One question we asked 00:10:25.238 --> 00:10:29.536 is whether quantum tunneling plays a role in mutations in DNA. 00:10:29.843 --> 00:10:33.503 Again, this is not a new idea; it goes all the way back to the early 60s. 00:10:33.527 --> 00:10:36.488 The two strands of DNA, the double-helix structure, 00:10:36.512 --> 00:10:39.335 are held together by rungs; it's like a twisted ladder. 00:10:39.359 --> 00:10:42.866 And those rungs of the ladder are hydrogen bonds -- 00:10:42.890 --> 00:10:46.680 protons, that act as the glue between the two strands. 00:10:46.704 --> 00:10:51.454 So if you zoom in, what they're doing is holding these large molecules -- 00:10:51.478 --> 00:10:53.085 nucleotides -- together. 00:10:54.130 --> 00:10:55.280 Zoom in a bit more. 00:10:55.304 --> 00:10:57.220 So, this a computer simulation. 00:10:57.855 --> 00:11:01.397 The two white balls in the middle are protons, 00:11:01.421 --> 00:11:03.720 and you can see that it's a double hydrogen bond. 00:11:03.744 --> 00:11:07.058 One prefers to sit on one side; the other, on the other side 00:11:07.082 --> 00:11:11.640 of the two strands of the vertical lines going down, which you can't see. 00:11:12.410 --> 00:11:15.805 It can happen that these two protons can hop over. 00:11:15.829 --> 00:11:17.265 Watch the two white balls. 00:11:17.748 --> 00:11:19.746 They can jump over to the other side. 00:11:20.239 --> 00:11:25.885 If the two strands of DNA then separate, leading to the process of replication, 00:11:25.909 --> 00:11:29.108 and the two protons are in the wrong positions, 00:11:29.132 --> 00:11:30.895 this can lead to a mutation. 00:11:31.204 --> 00:11:33.076 This has been known for half a century. 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:35.443 The question is: How likely are they to do that, 00:11:35.467 --> 00:11:37.845 and if they do, how do they do it? 00:11:37.869 --> 00:11:40.888 Do they jump across, like the ball going over the wall? 00:11:40.912 --> 00:11:44.414 Or can they quantum-tunnel across, even if they don't have enough energy? 00:11:45.089 --> 00:11:49.341 Early indications suggest that quantum tunneling can play a role here. 00:11:49.365 --> 00:11:51.489 We still don't know yet how important it is; 00:11:51.513 --> 00:11:53.305 this is still an open question. 00:11:54.199 --> 00:11:55.349 It's speculative, 00:11:55.373 --> 00:11:58.016 but it's one of those questions that is so important 00:11:58.040 --> 00:12:00.486 that if quantum mechanics plays a role in mutations, 00:12:00.510 --> 00:12:02.809 surely this must have big implications, 00:12:02.833 --> 00:12:05.527 to understand certain types of mutations, 00:12:05.551 --> 00:12:09.307 possibly even those that lead to turning a cell cancerous. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:10.803 --> 00:12:16.102 Another example of quantum mechanics in biology is quantum coherence, 00:12:16.126 --> 00:12:18.479 in one of the most important processes in biology, 00:12:18.503 --> 00:12:22.444 photosynthesis: plants and bacteria taking sunlight, 00:12:22.468 --> 00:12:25.422 and using that energy to create biomass. 00:12:26.215 --> 00:12:30.367 Quantum coherence is the idea of quantum entities multitasking. 00:12:30.912 --> 00:12:32.516 It's the quantum skier. 00:12:32.540 --> 00:12:35.492 It's an object that behaves like a wave, 00:12:35.516 --> 00:12:38.418 so that it doesn't just move in one direction or the other, 00:12:38.442 --> 00:12:41.762 but can follow multiple pathways at the same time. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:42.708 --> 00:12:46.624 Some years ago, the world of science was shocked 00:12:46.648 --> 00:12:50.232 when a paper was published showing experimental evidence 00:12:50.256 --> 00:12:54.032 that quantum coherence takes place inside bacteria, 00:12:54.056 --> 00:12:55.742 carrying out photosynthesis. 00:12:55.766 --> 00:12:58.830 The idea is that the photon, the particle of light, the sunlight, 00:12:58.854 --> 00:13:02.198 the quantum of light captured by a chlorophyll molecule, 00:13:02.222 --> 00:13:04.813 is then delivered to what's called the reaction center, 00:13:04.837 --> 00:13:06.901 where it can be turned into chemical energy. 00:13:06.925 --> 00:13:09.573 And in getting there, it doesn't just follow one route; 00:13:09.597 --> 00:13:11.812 it follows multiple pathways at once, 00:13:11.836 --> 00:13:16.173 to optimize the most efficient way of reaching the reaction center 00:13:16.197 --> 00:13:17.918 without dissipating as waste heat. 00:13:19.228 --> 00:13:22.537 Quantum coherence taking place inside a living cell. 00:13:22.561 --> 00:13:24.681 A remarkable idea, 00:13:24.705 --> 00:13:30.940 and yet evidence is growing almost weekly, with new papers coming out, 00:13:30.964 --> 00:13:33.176 confirming that this does indeed take place. 00:13:33.555 --> 00:13:38.294 My third and final example is the most beautiful, wonderful idea. 00:13:38.318 --> 00:13:42.381 It's also still very speculative, but I have to share it with you. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:42.405 --> 00:13:47.017 The European robin migrates from Scandinavia NOTE Paragraph 00:13:47.041 --> 00:13:49.676 down to the Mediterranean, every autumn, 00:13:49.700 --> 00:13:53.073 and like a lot of other marine animals and even insects, 00:13:53.097 --> 00:13:57.397 they navigate by sensing the Earth's magnetic field. 00:13:58.968 --> 00:14:01.395 Now, the Earth's magnetic field is very, very weak; 00:14:01.419 --> 00:14:03.499 it's 100 times weaker than a fridge magnet, 00:14:03.523 --> 00:14:09.124 and yet it affects the chemistry -- somehow -- within a living organism. 00:14:09.932 --> 00:14:13.738 That's not in doubt -- a German couple of ornithologists, 00:14:13.762 --> 00:14:18.022 Wolfgang and Roswitha Wiltschko, in the 1970s, confirmed that indeed, 00:14:18.046 --> 00:14:22.023 the robin does find its way by somehow sensing the Earth's magnetic field, 00:14:22.047 --> 00:14:25.374 to give it directional information -- a built-in compass. 00:14:25.398 --> 00:14:27.647 The puzzle, the mystery was: How does it do it? 00:14:28.351 --> 00:14:31.381 Well, the only theory in town -- 00:14:31.405 --> 00:14:34.841 we don't know if it's the correct theory, but the only theory in town -- 00:14:34.865 --> 00:14:37.849 is that it does it via something called quantum entanglement. 00:14:38.567 --> 00:14:40.941 Inside the robin's retina -- 00:14:40.965 --> 00:14:45.197 I kid you not -- inside the robin's retina is a protein called cryptochrome, 00:14:45.221 --> 00:14:46.601 which is light-sensitive. 00:14:46.625 --> 00:14:50.564 Within cryptochrome, a pair of electrons are quantum-entangled. 00:14:50.588 --> 00:14:53.820 Now, quantum entanglement is when two particles are far apart, 00:14:53.844 --> 00:14:56.678 and yet somehow remain in contact with each other. 00:14:56.991 --> 00:14:58.437 Even Einstein hated this idea; 00:14:58.461 --> 00:15:00.500 he called it "spooky action at a distance." 00:15:00.524 --> 00:15:02.405 (Laughter) 00:15:02.429 --> 00:15:05.872 So if Einstein doesn't like it, then we can all be uncomfortable with it. 00:15:05.896 --> 00:15:08.749 Two quantum-entangled electrons within a single molecule 00:15:08.773 --> 00:15:10.244 dance a delicate dance 00:15:10.268 --> 00:15:12.809 that is very sensitive to the direction the bird flies 00:15:12.833 --> 00:15:14.364 in the Earth's magnetic field. NOTE Paragraph 00:15:14.848 --> 00:15:17.458 We don't know if it's the correct explanation, 00:15:17.482 --> 00:15:22.026 but wow, wouldn't it be exciting if quantum mechanics helps birds navigate? 00:15:23.069 --> 00:15:25.790 Quantum biology is still in it infancy. 00:15:25.814 --> 00:15:29.298 It's still speculative. 00:15:29.742 --> 00:15:33.591 But I believe it's built on solid science. 00:15:33.917 --> 00:15:37.726 I also think that in the coming decade or so, 00:15:37.750 --> 00:15:42.591 we're going to start to see that actually, it pervades life -- 00:15:42.615 --> 00:15:47.211 that life has evolved tricks that utilize the quantum world. 00:15:48.026 --> 00:15:49.454 Watch this space. 00:15:49.478 --> 00:15:50.635 Thank you. 00:15:50.659 --> 00:15:52.861 (Applause)