1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'd like to introduce you to an emerging area of science. 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One that is still speculative, but hugely exciting. 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's certainly one that's growing very rapidly. 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum biology asks a very simple question. 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Does quantum mechanics, that weird and wonderful, and powerful theory 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the subatomic world of atoms and molecules 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that underpins so much of modern physics and chemistry, also play 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a role inside the living cell? 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In other words, are there processes, mechanisms, phenomena in living organisms 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that can only be explained with a helping hand from quantum mechanics. 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, quantum biology isn't new. It's been around since the early 1930s. 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But its only in the last decade or so, that careful experiments 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in biochemistry labs, using spectroscopy that have shown clear, firm evidence 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that there are certain specific mechanisms that require quantum mechanics 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to explain them. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum biology brings together quantum physicists, biochemists, 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 molecular biologists. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a very interdisciplinary field. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I come from quantum physics. So, I'm a nuclear physicist. 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've spent more than three decades trying to get my head around quantum mechanics. 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One of the founders of quantum mechanics, Neil Bohr said, 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If you're not astonished by it, then you haven't understood it. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, I sort of feel happy that I'm still astonished by it and that's a good thing. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But it means I study the very smallest structures in the universe. 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The building blocks of reality. 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If we think about the scale of size, start with something, an everyday object 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like the tennis ball, and just go down orders of magnitude and size. 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 From the eye of a needle, down to a cell, down to a bacterium, down to an enzyme. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You eventually reach the nano world. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, nanotechnology may be a term you've heard of. 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A nanometer is a billionth of a meter. 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 My area is the atomic nucleus, which is the tiny dot inside an atom. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's even smaller in scale. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the domain of quantum mechanics, and physicists and chemists have had 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a long time to get used to it. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Biologists on the other hand have got off lightly, in my view. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They are very happy with their balls-and-sticks models of molecules. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The balls are the atoms, the sticks are the bonds between the atoms 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and when they can't build them physically in the lab, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 nowadays they have very powerful computers that will simulate a huge model. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is a protein made up of 100,000 atoms. 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It doesn't really require much in the way of quantum mechanics to explain it. 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum mechanics was developed in the 1920s. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It is a set of beautiful and powerful mathematical rules and ideas 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that explain the world of the very small. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it's a world that very different from our everyday world 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 made up of trillions of atoms. 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a world built on probability and chance. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a fuzzy world. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a world of phantoms, where particles can also behave like spread out waves. 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 If we imagine quantum mechanics or quantum physics, then as 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the fundamental foundation of reality itself. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's not really surprising that we say quantum physics 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 underpins organic chemistry. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After all, it gives us the rules that tells us the rules that tell us 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how the atoms fit together to make organic molecules. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Organic chemistry, scaled up in complexity gives us molecular biology, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which of course leads to life itself. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, in a way, it's sort of not surprising. 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's almost trivial. 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Say, well of course life ultimately must depend of quantum mechanics 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 -- so does everything else. 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So does all inanimate matter, made up of trillions of atoms. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Ultimately, there's a quantum level that we know where we have to delve 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 into this weridness. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But in everyday life, we can forget about it. 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because once you put together trillions of atoms, that quantum weirdness 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just dissolves away. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum biology isn't about this. Quantum biology isn't this obvious. 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Of course quantum mechanics underpins life at some molecular level. 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum biology is about looking for the non-trivial, the counterintuitive 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ideas in quantum mechanics and to see if they do indeed play an important role 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in describing the processes of life. 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here is my perfect example of the counterintuitiveness 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the quantum world. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is the quantum skiier. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He seems to be intact, he seems to be perfectly healthy. 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And yet, he seems to have gone around both sides of that tree at the same time. 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, if you saw some tracks like that you'd guess some sort of stunts of course. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But in the quantum world, this happens all the time. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Particles can multitask, they can be in two places at once. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They can do more than one thing at the same time. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Particles can behave like spread out waves. 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's almost like magic. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Physicists and chemists have had nearly a century of trying 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to get used to this weirdness. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't blame the biologists for not having or wanting to learn 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 quantum mechanics. 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You see, this weirdness is very delicate and we physicists work very hard 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to maintain it on our labs. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We sort of cool our system down to near absolute zero, 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We carry out our experiments in vacuums, we try and isolate it 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from any external disturbance. 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's very different from the warm, messy, noisy environment of a living cell. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Biology itself, if you think of molecular biology, seems to have done very well 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in describing all the processes of life, in terms of chemistry. 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Chemical reactions! 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And these are reductionist, deterministic chemical reactions showing that 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 essentially life, is made of the same stuff as everything else, 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and if we can forget about quantum mechanics in the macro world, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 then we should be able to forget about it in biology, as well. 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, one man begged to differ with this idea. 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Erwin Schrödinger, he of Schrödinger's Cat fame, an Austrian physicist. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was one of the founders of quantum mechanics in the 1920s. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In 1944, he wrote a book called "What is Life?" 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It was tremendously influential. 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It influenced Francis Crick and James Watson, 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the discoverer's of the double helix structure of DNA. 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To paraphrase a description in the book, he says, at the molecular level, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 living organism have a certain order, a structure to them that's very 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 different from the random thermodynamic jostling of atoms and molecules 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in inanimate matter of the same complexity. 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In fact, living matter seems to behave in its order, in its structure 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just like inanimate matter cooled down to near absolute zero, 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where quantum effects play a very important role. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's something special about the structure, the order 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 inside of living cell. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, Schrödinger speculated that maybe quantum mechanics plays a role in life. 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a very speculative, sort of far-reaching idea and it didn't 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 really go very far. 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But, as I mentioned at the start, in the last 10 years 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there have been experiment emerging, showing where some of these certain 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 phenomena in biology, do seem to require quantum mechanics. 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, I want to share with you just a few of the exciting ones. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is one of the best known phenomena in the quantum world. 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum tunneling. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The box on the left, shows the wavelike spread out distribution of quantum entity. 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A particle, like an electron. 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Which is not a little ball bouncing off a wall. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's a wave that has a certain probability of being able to permeate through 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a solid wall, like a phantom leaping through to the other side. 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You can see a faint smudge of light in the right hand box. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum tunneling suggests that a particle can hit an impenetrable barrier and yet, 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 somehow, as if by magic, disappear from one side and reappear on the other. 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The nicest way of explaining it, is if you want to throw a ball 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 over a wall, you have to give it enough energy to get over the top of the wall. 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In the quantum world, you don't have to throw it over the wall. 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You can throw it at the wall and three's a certain non-zero probability that it'll 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 disappear on one side, and reappear on the other. 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This isn't speculation, by the way, we're happy 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 -- i'm sorry, happy is not the right word. 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We are familiar with this. 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Quantum tunneling takes place all the time, in fact 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's the reason our sun shines. 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The particles fuse together and the sun is turning hydrogen into helium 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 through quantum tunneling. 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Back in the 70s and 80s, it was discovered that quantum tunneling also takes place 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 inside living cells. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Enzymes, those workhorses of life, the catalysts of chemical reaction. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Enzymes are biomolecules that speed up chemical reactions in living cells. 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 By many, many orders of magnitude. 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it's always been a mystery how they do this. 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Well, it was discovered that one of the tricks that enzymes have evolved 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to make use of, is by transferring subatomic particles, like electrons 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and indeed protons, from one part of a molecule to another via 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 quantum tunneling. 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's efficient, it's fast, it can disappear 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 -- a proton can disappear from one place and a reappear on the other. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Enzymes help this take place. 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is research that's been carried out back in the 80s, particularly by a group 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Berkeley, Judith Klinman. 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Other groups in the UK have now also confirmed that enzymes really do this. 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Research carried out by my group -- so I mentioned I'm a nuclear physicist, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I realize I've got these tools of using quantum mechanics 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in atomic nuclei and so can apply those tools in other areas, as well. 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 One question we asked was, whether quantum tunneling plays a role 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in mutations in DNA. 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Again, this is not a new idea. It goes all the way back to the early 60s. 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The two strands of DNA, the double helix structure are held together by rungs, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's like a twisted ladder. 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And those rungs of the ladder are hydrogen bonds.