WEBVTT 00:00:01.658 --> 00:00:07.604 Imagine a place where your neighbors greet your children by name; 00:00:07.628 --> 00:00:10.931 a place with splendid vistas; 00:00:10.955 --> 00:00:14.066 a place where you can drive just 20 minutes 00:00:14.090 --> 00:00:16.152 and put your sailboat on the water. 00:00:16.680 --> 00:00:19.259 It's a seductive place, isn't it? NOTE Paragraph 00:00:20.261 --> 00:00:21.857 I don't live there. 00:00:21.881 --> 00:00:24.430 (Laughter) 00:00:24.454 --> 00:00:30.473 But I did journey on a 27,000-mile trip 00:00:30.497 --> 00:00:36.859 for two years, to the fastest-growing and whitest counties in America. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:38.732 --> 00:00:40.201 What is a Whitopia? 00:00:40.820 --> 00:00:43.975 I define Whitopia in three ways: 00:00:43.999 --> 00:00:50.658 First, a Whitopia has posted at least six percent population growth since 2000. 00:00:51.451 --> 00:00:55.924 Secondly, the majority of that growth comes from white migrants. 00:00:56.415 --> 00:01:00.215 And third, the Whitopia has an ineffable charm, 00:01:00.239 --> 00:01:02.794 a pleasant look and feel, 00:01:02.818 --> 00:01:04.326 a je Ne sais quoi. 00:01:04.350 --> 00:01:07.559 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:01:07.583 --> 00:01:11.975 To learn how and why Whitopias are ticking, 00:01:11.999 --> 00:01:17.422 I immersed myself for several months apiece in three of them: 00:01:17.446 --> 00:01:20.096 first, St. George, Utah; 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.557 second, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; 00:01:22.581 --> 00:01:25.184 and third, Forsyth County, Georgia. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:26.883 --> 00:01:32.409 First stop, St. George -- a beautiful town of red rock landscapes. 00:01:32.433 --> 00:01:37.786 In the 1850s, Brigham Young dispatched families to St. George 00:01:37.810 --> 00:01:41.094 to grow cotton because of the hot, arid climate. 00:01:41.118 --> 00:01:45.546 And so they called it Utah's Dixie, and the name sticks to this day. 00:01:48.368 --> 00:01:53.330 I approached my time in each Whitopia like an anthropologist. 00:01:53.354 --> 00:01:57.975 I made detailed spreadsheets of all the power brokers in the communities, 00:01:57.999 --> 00:02:01.433 who I needed to meet, where I needed to be, 00:02:01.457 --> 00:02:04.675 and I threw myself with gusto in these communities. 00:02:04.699 --> 00:02:06.975 I went to zoning board meetings, 00:02:06.999 --> 00:02:10.762 I went to Democratic clubs and Republican clubs. 00:02:10.786 --> 00:02:12.698 I went to poker nights. 00:02:15.206 --> 00:02:20.118 In St. George, I rented a home at the Entrada, 00:02:20.142 --> 00:02:23.254 one of the town's premier gated communities. 00:02:23.278 --> 00:02:27.596 There were no Motel 6's or Howard Johnsons for me. 00:02:27.620 --> 00:02:31.954 I lived in Whitopia as a resident, and not like a visitor. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:32.883 --> 00:02:37.385 I rented myself this home by phone. 00:02:37.409 --> 00:02:39.948 (Laughter) 00:02:39.972 --> 00:02:41.337 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:02:41.361 --> 00:02:47.321 Golf is the perfect seductive symbol of Whitopia. 00:02:47.750 --> 00:02:49.560 When I went on my journey, 00:02:49.584 --> 00:02:52.699 I had barely ever held a golf club. 00:02:52.723 --> 00:02:57.398 By the time I left, I was golfing at least three times a week. 00:02:57.422 --> 00:03:00.109 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:03:00.133 --> 00:03:03.069 Golf helps people bond. 00:03:03.093 --> 00:03:09.336 Some of the best interviews I ever scored during my trip were on the golf courses. 00:03:09.716 --> 00:03:15.175 One venture capitalist, for example, invited me to golf in his private club 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.254 that had no minority members. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:18.933 --> 00:03:20.408 I also went fishing. 00:03:20.432 --> 00:03:22.433 (Laughter) 00:03:22.457 --> 00:03:25.473 Because I had never fished, this fellow had to teach me 00:03:25.497 --> 00:03:28.273 how to cast my line and what bait to use. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:30.550 --> 00:03:33.821 I also played poker every weekend. 00:03:33.845 --> 00:03:36.677 It was Texas Hold 'em with a $10 buy-in. 00:03:38.058 --> 00:03:42.317 My poker mates may have been bluffing about the hands that they drew, 00:03:42.341 --> 00:03:45.523 but they weren't bluffing about their social beliefs. 00:03:45.547 --> 00:03:49.150 Some of the most raw, salty conversations I ever had 00:03:49.174 --> 00:03:51.879 during my journey were at the poker table. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:52.951 --> 00:03:54.957 I'm a gung ho entertainer. 00:03:56.140 --> 00:04:00.116 I love to cook, I hosted many dinner parties, and in return, 00:04:00.140 --> 00:04:03.288 people invited me to their dinner parties, 00:04:03.312 --> 00:04:05.970 and to their barbecues, and to their pool parties, 00:04:05.994 --> 00:04:07.789 and to their birthday parties. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:09.385 --> 00:04:10.852 But it wasn't all fun. 00:04:11.781 --> 00:04:16.143 Immigration turned out to be a big issue in this Whitopia. 00:04:16.167 --> 00:04:19.581 The St. George's Citizens Council on Illegal Immigration 00:04:19.605 --> 00:04:23.699 held regular and active protests against immigration, 00:04:23.723 --> 00:04:29.624 and so what I gleaned from this Whitopia is what a hot debate this would become. 00:04:29.648 --> 00:04:33.633 It was a real-time preview, and so it has become. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:35.084 --> 00:04:40.427 Next stop: Almost Heaven, a cabin I rented for myself 00:04:40.451 --> 00:04:44.118 in Coeur d'Alene, in the beautiful North Idaho panhandle. 00:04:45.048 --> 00:04:48.071 I rented this place for myself, also by phone. 00:04:48.095 --> 00:04:49.475 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:50.530 --> 00:04:55.350 The book "A Thousand Places To See Before You Die" lists Coeur d'Alene -- 00:04:55.374 --> 00:04:59.468 it's a gorgeous paradise for huntsmen, boatsmen and fishermen. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:01.031 --> 00:05:04.064 My growing golf skills came in handy in Coeur d'Alene. 00:05:04.088 --> 00:05:07.032 I golfed with retired LAPD cops. 00:05:07.714 --> 00:05:13.224 In 1993, around 11,000 families and cops 00:05:13.248 --> 00:05:19.358 fled Los Angeles after the L.A. racial unrest, 00:05:19.382 --> 00:05:23.404 for North Idaho, and they've built an expatriated community. 00:05:24.809 --> 00:05:27.822 Given the conservatism of these cops, 00:05:27.846 --> 00:05:33.188 there's no surprise that North Idaho has a strong gun culture. 00:05:33.212 --> 00:05:38.994 In fact, it is said, North Idaho has more gun dealers than gas stations. 00:05:41.677 --> 00:05:44.813 So what's a resident to do to fit in? 00:05:44.837 --> 00:05:46.203 I hit the gun club. 00:05:46.942 --> 00:05:50.337 When I rented a gun, the gentleman behind the counter 00:05:50.361 --> 00:05:52.975 was perfectly pleasant and kind, 00:05:52.999 --> 00:05:55.940 until I showed him my New York City driver's license. 00:05:56.999 --> 00:05:58.497 That's when he got nervous. 00:05:59.767 --> 00:06:03.036 I'm not as bad a shot as I thought I might have been. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:04.448 --> 00:06:10.904 What I learned from North Idaho is the peculiar brand of paranoia 00:06:10.928 --> 00:06:16.043 that can permeate a community when so many cops and guns are around. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:18.070 --> 00:06:22.777 In North Idaho, in my red pickup truck, 00:06:22.801 --> 00:06:24.158 I kept a notepad. 00:06:24.700 --> 00:06:28.938 And in that notepad I counted more Confederate flags than black people. 00:06:29.589 --> 00:06:32.852 In North Idaho, I found Confederate flags 00:06:32.876 --> 00:06:37.101 on key chains, on cellphone paraphernalia, 00:06:37.125 --> 00:06:38.422 and on cars. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:39.780 --> 00:06:43.225 About a seven-minute drive from my hidden lake cabin 00:06:43.249 --> 00:06:46.066 was the compound of Aryan Nations, 00:06:46.090 --> 00:06:48.082 the white supremacist group. 00:06:50.384 --> 00:06:55.456 America's Promise Ministries, the religious arm of Aryan Nations, 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.968 happened to have a three-day retreat during my visit. 00:07:00.913 --> 00:07:02.548 So I decided to crash it. 00:07:02.572 --> 00:07:05.184 (Laughter) 00:07:05.208 --> 00:07:10.043 I'm the only non-Aryan journalist I'm aware of ever to have done so. 00:07:10.067 --> 00:07:11.128 (Laughter) 00:07:11.153 --> 00:07:15.766 Among the many memorable episodes of that retreat ... 00:07:15.790 --> 00:07:17.059 (Laughter) 00:07:17.083 --> 00:07:20.975 ... is when Abe, an Aryan, sidled up next to me. 00:07:20.999 --> 00:07:26.419 He slapped my knee, and he said, "Hey Rich, I just want you to know one thing. 00:07:26.443 --> 00:07:30.943 We are not white supremacists. We are white separatists. 00:07:30.967 --> 00:07:32.841 We don't think we're better than you, 00:07:32.865 --> 00:07:34.554 we just want to be away from you." 00:07:34.578 --> 00:07:38.992 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:07:39.016 --> 00:07:46.011 Indeed, most white people in Whitopia are neither white supremacists 00:07:46.035 --> 00:07:47.850 or white separatists; 00:07:47.874 --> 00:07:51.799 in fact, they're not there for explicitly racial reasons at all. 00:07:52.140 --> 00:07:55.196 Rather, they emigrate there 00:07:55.220 --> 00:07:58.928 for friendliness, comfort, security, safety -- 00:07:58.952 --> 00:08:03.945 reasons that they implicitly associate to whiteness in itself. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:05.064 --> 00:08:06.938 Next stop was Georgia. 00:08:08.224 --> 00:08:12.336 In Georgia, I stayed in an exurb north of Atlanta. 00:08:13.027 --> 00:08:14.822 In Utah, I found poker; 00:08:14.846 --> 00:08:16.537 in Idaho, I found guns; 00:08:16.561 --> 00:08:18.115 in Georgia, I found God. 00:08:18.139 --> 00:08:19.378 (Laughter) 00:08:19.402 --> 00:08:22.975 The way that I immersed myself in this Whitopia 00:08:22.999 --> 00:08:26.390 was to become active at First Redeemer Church, 00:08:26.414 --> 00:08:29.918 a megachurch that's so huge that it has golf carts 00:08:29.942 --> 00:08:35.107 to escort the congregants around its many parking lots on campus. 00:08:35.758 --> 00:08:38.467 I was active in the youth ministry. 00:08:38.491 --> 00:08:43.423 And for me, personally, I was more comfortable in this Whitopia 00:08:43.447 --> 00:08:48.080 than say, in a Colorado, or an Idaho, or even a suburban Boston. 00:08:48.999 --> 00:08:52.089 That is because [there], in Georgia, 00:08:52.113 --> 00:08:56.632 white people and black people are more historically familiar to one another. 00:08:57.092 --> 00:08:59.888 I was less exotic in this Whitopia. 00:08:59.912 --> 00:09:01.912 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:02.684 --> 00:09:04.271 But what does it all mean? 00:09:05.042 --> 00:09:10.423 Whitopian dreaming, Whitopia migration, is a push-pull phenomenon, 00:09:10.447 --> 00:09:14.588 full of alarming pushes and alluring pulls, 00:09:14.612 --> 00:09:21.225 and Whitopia operates at the level of conscious and unconscious bias. 00:09:21.860 --> 00:09:27.263 It's possible for people to be in Whitopia not for racist reasons, 00:09:27.287 --> 00:09:29.577 though it has racist outcomes. 00:09:31.704 --> 00:09:35.548 Many Whitopians feel pushed by illegals, 00:09:35.572 --> 00:09:41.089 social welfare abuse, minorities, density, crowded schools. 00:09:41.113 --> 00:09:46.292 Many Whitopians feel pulled by merit, 00:09:46.316 --> 00:09:52.080 freedom, the allure of privatism -- privatized places, privatized people, 00:09:52.104 --> 00:09:53.421 privatized things. 00:09:55.524 --> 00:10:01.112 And I learned in Whitopia how a country can have racism 00:10:01.136 --> 00:10:02.471 without racists. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:03.241 --> 00:10:06.028 Many of my smug urban liberal friends 00:10:06.052 --> 00:10:08.789 couldn't believe I would go on such a venture. 00:10:09.447 --> 00:10:14.969 The reality is that many white Americans are affable and kind. 00:10:15.643 --> 00:10:20.412 Interpersonal race relations -- how we treat each other as human beings -- 00:10:20.436 --> 00:10:24.043 are vastly better than in my parents' generation. 00:10:25.162 --> 00:10:28.785 Can you imagine me going to Whitopia 40 years ago? 00:10:29.596 --> 00:10:31.484 What a journey that would have been. 00:10:31.508 --> 00:10:33.266 (Laughter) 00:10:33.290 --> 00:10:35.159 And yet, some things haven't changed. 00:10:35.572 --> 00:10:42.283 America is as residentially and educationally segregated today 00:10:42.307 --> 00:10:44.874 as it was in 1970. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:47.523 --> 00:10:52.154 As Americans, we often find ways to cook for each other, 00:10:52.178 --> 00:10:53.798 to dance with each other, 00:10:53.822 --> 00:10:55.695 to host with each other, 00:10:55.719 --> 00:11:00.767 but why can't that translate into how we treat each other as communities? 00:11:01.235 --> 00:11:03.355 It's a devastating irony, 00:11:03.379 --> 00:11:06.691 how we have gone forward as individuals, 00:11:06.715 --> 00:11:09.325 and backwards as communities. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:11.766 --> 00:11:16.059 One of the Whitopian outlooks that really hit me 00:11:16.083 --> 00:11:18.255 was a proverbial saying: 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.755 "One black man is a delightful dinner guest; 00:11:21.779 --> 00:11:23.821 50 black men is a ghetto." NOTE Paragraph 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.755 One of the big contexts animating my Whitopian journey was the year 2042. 00:11:36.668 --> 00:11:42.776 By 2042, white people will no longer be the American majority. 00:11:43.450 --> 00:11:46.751 As such, will there be more Whitopias? 00:11:48.926 --> 00:11:50.613 In looking at this, 00:11:50.637 --> 00:11:57.344 the danger of Whitopia is that the more segregation we have, 00:11:57.368 --> 00:12:03.169 the less we can look at and confront conscious and unconscious bias. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:06.304 --> 00:12:10.665 I ventured on my two-year, 27,000 mile journey 00:12:10.689 --> 00:12:15.776 to learn where, why, and how white people are fleeing, 00:12:15.800 --> 00:12:18.542 but I didn't expect to have so much fun on my journey. 00:12:18.566 --> 00:12:19.573 (Laughter) 00:12:19.597 --> 00:12:22.487 I didn't expect to learn so much about myself. 00:12:23.408 --> 00:12:26.856 I don't expect I'll be living in a Whitopia -- 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:28.991 or a Blacktopia, for that matter. 00:12:29.792 --> 00:12:33.201 I do plan to continue golfing every chance I get. 00:12:33.225 --> 00:12:34.787 (Laughter) 00:12:34.811 --> 00:12:39.436 And I'll just have to leave the guns and megachurches back in Whitopia. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:40.714 --> 00:12:41.866 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:41.890 --> 00:12:47.976 (Applause)