1 00:00:01,658 --> 00:00:07,604 Imagine a place where your neighbors greet your children by name; 2 00:00:07,628 --> 00:00:10,931 a place with splendid vistas; 3 00:00:10,955 --> 00:00:14,066 a place where you can drive just 20 minutes 4 00:00:14,090 --> 00:00:16,152 and put your sailboat on the water. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,259 It's a seductive place, isn't it? 6 00:00:20,261 --> 00:00:21,857 I don't live there. 7 00:00:21,881 --> 00:00:24,430 (Laughter) 8 00:00:24,454 --> 00:00:30,473 But I did journey on a 27,000-mile trip 9 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:36,859 for two years, to the fastest-growing and whitest counties in America. 10 00:00:38,732 --> 00:00:40,201 What is a Whitopia? 11 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:43,975 I define Whitopia in three ways: 12 00:00:43,999 --> 00:00:50,658 First, a Whitopia has posted at least six percent population growth since 2000. 13 00:00:51,451 --> 00:00:55,924 Secondly, the majority of that growth comes from white migrants. 14 00:00:56,415 --> 00:01:00,215 And third, the Whitopia has an ineffable charm, 15 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:02,794 a pleasant look and feel, 16 00:01:02,818 --> 00:01:04,326 a je Ne sais quoi. 17 00:01:04,350 --> 00:01:07,559 (Laughter) 18 00:01:07,583 --> 00:01:11,975 To learn how and why Whitopias are ticking, 19 00:01:11,999 --> 00:01:17,422 I immersed myself for several months apiece in three of them: 20 00:01:17,446 --> 00:01:20,096 first, St. George, Utah; 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,557 second, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; 22 00:01:22,581 --> 00:01:25,184 and third, Forsyth County, Georgia. 23 00:01:26,883 --> 00:01:32,409 First stop, St. George -- a beautiful town of red rock landscapes. 24 00:01:32,433 --> 00:01:37,786 In the 1850s, Brigham Young dispatched families to St. George 25 00:01:37,810 --> 00:01:41,094 to grow cotton because of the hot, arid climate. 26 00:01:41,118 --> 00:01:45,546 And so they called it Utah's Dixie, and the name sticks to this day. 27 00:01:48,368 --> 00:01:53,330 I approached my time in each Whitopia like an anthropologist. 28 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:57,975 I made detailed spreadsheets of all the power brokers in the communities, 29 00:01:57,999 --> 00:02:01,433 who I needed to meet, where I needed to be, 30 00:02:01,457 --> 00:02:04,675 and I threw myself with gusto in these communities. 31 00:02:04,699 --> 00:02:06,975 I went to zoning board meetings, 32 00:02:06,999 --> 00:02:10,762 I went to Democratic clubs and Republican clubs. 33 00:02:10,786 --> 00:02:12,698 I went to poker nights. 34 00:02:15,206 --> 00:02:20,118 In St. George, I rented a home at the Entrada, 35 00:02:20,142 --> 00:02:23,254 one of the town's premier gated communities. 36 00:02:23,278 --> 00:02:27,596 There were no Motel 6's or Howard Johnsons for me. 37 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:31,954 I lived in Whitopia as a resident, and not like a visitor. 38 00:02:32,883 --> 00:02:37,385 I rented myself this home by phone. 39 00:02:37,409 --> 00:02:39,948 (Laughter) 40 00:02:39,972 --> 00:02:41,337 (Applause) 41 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:47,321 Golf is the perfect seductive symbol of Whitopia. 42 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:49,560 When I went on my journey, 43 00:02:49,584 --> 00:02:52,699 I had barely ever held a golf club. 44 00:02:52,723 --> 00:02:57,398 By the time I left, I was golfing at least three times a week. 45 00:02:57,422 --> 00:03:00,109 (Laughter) 46 00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:03,069 Golf helps people bond. 47 00:03:03,093 --> 00:03:09,336 Some of the best interviews I ever scored during my trip were on the golf courses. 48 00:03:09,716 --> 00:03:15,175 One venture capitalist, for example, invited me to golf in his private club 49 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:17,254 that had no minority members. 50 00:03:18,933 --> 00:03:20,408 I also went fishing. 51 00:03:20,432 --> 00:03:22,433 (Laughter) 52 00:03:22,457 --> 00:03:25,473 Because I had never fished, this fellow had to teach me 53 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:28,273 how to cast my line and what bait to use. 54 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:33,821 I also played poker every weekend. 55 00:03:33,845 --> 00:03:36,677 It was Texas Hold 'em with a $10 buy-in. 56 00:03:38,058 --> 00:03:42,317 My poker mates may have been bluffing about the hands that they drew, 57 00:03:42,341 --> 00:03:45,523 but they weren't bluffing about their social beliefs. 58 00:03:45,547 --> 00:03:49,150 Some of the most raw, salty conversations I ever had 59 00:03:49,174 --> 00:03:51,879 during my journey were at the poker table. 60 00:03:52,951 --> 00:03:54,957 I'm a gung ho entertainer. 61 00:03:56,140 --> 00:04:00,116 I love to cook, I hosted many dinner parties, and in return, 62 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:03,288 people invited me to their dinner parties, 63 00:04:03,312 --> 00:04:05,970 and to their barbecues, and to their pool parties, 64 00:04:05,994 --> 00:04:07,789 and to their birthday parties. 65 00:04:09,385 --> 00:04:10,852 But it wasn't all fun. 66 00:04:11,781 --> 00:04:16,143 Immigration turned out to be a big issue in this Whitopia. 67 00:04:16,167 --> 00:04:19,581 The St. George's Citizens Council on Illegal Immigration 68 00:04:19,605 --> 00:04:23,699 held regular and active protests against immigration, 69 00:04:23,723 --> 00:04:29,624 and so what I gleaned from this Whitopia is what a hot debate this would become. 70 00:04:29,648 --> 00:04:33,633 It was a real-time preview, and so it has become. 71 00:04:35,084 --> 00:04:40,427 Next stop: Almost Heaven, a cabin I rented for myself 72 00:04:40,451 --> 00:04:44,118 in Coeur d'Alene, in the beautiful North Idaho panhandle. 73 00:04:45,048 --> 00:04:48,071 I rented this place for myself, also by phone. 74 00:04:48,095 --> 00:04:49,475 (Laughter) 75 00:04:50,530 --> 00:04:55,350 The book "A Thousand Places To See Before You Die" lists Coeur d'Alene -- 76 00:04:55,374 --> 00:04:59,468 it's a gorgeous paradise for huntsmen, boatsmen and fishermen. 77 00:05:01,031 --> 00:05:04,064 My growing golf skills came in handy in Coeur d'Alene. 78 00:05:04,088 --> 00:05:07,032 I golfed with retired LAPD cops. 79 00:05:07,714 --> 00:05:13,224 In 1993, around 11,000 families and cops 80 00:05:13,248 --> 00:05:19,358 fled Los Angeles after the L.A. racial unrest, 81 00:05:19,382 --> 00:05:23,404 for North Idaho, and they've built an expatriated community. 82 00:05:24,809 --> 00:05:27,822 Given the conservatism of these cops, 83 00:05:27,846 --> 00:05:33,188 there's no surprise that North Idaho has a strong gun culture. 84 00:05:33,212 --> 00:05:38,994 In fact, it is said, North Idaho has more gun dealers than gas stations. 85 00:05:41,677 --> 00:05:44,813 So what's a resident to do to fit in? 86 00:05:44,837 --> 00:05:46,203 I hit the gun club. 87 00:05:46,942 --> 00:05:50,337 When I rented a gun, the gentleman behind the counter 88 00:05:50,361 --> 00:05:52,975 was perfectly pleasant and kind, 89 00:05:52,999 --> 00:05:55,940 until I showed him my New York City driver's license. 90 00:05:56,999 --> 00:05:58,497 That's when he got nervous. 91 00:05:59,767 --> 00:06:03,036 I'm not as bad a shot as I thought I might have been. 92 00:06:04,448 --> 00:06:10,904 What I learned from North Idaho is the peculiar brand of paranoia 93 00:06:10,928 --> 00:06:16,043 that can permeate a community when so many cops and guns are around. 94 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:22,777 In North Idaho, in my red pickup truck, 95 00:06:22,801 --> 00:06:24,158 I kept a notepad. 96 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:28,938 And in that notepad I counted more Confederate flags than black people. 97 00:06:29,589 --> 00:06:32,852 In North Idaho, I found Confederate flags 98 00:06:32,876 --> 00:06:37,101 on key chains, on cellphone paraphernalia, 99 00:06:37,125 --> 00:06:38,422 and on cars. 100 00:06:39,780 --> 00:06:43,225 About a seven-minute drive from my hidden lake cabin 101 00:06:43,249 --> 00:06:46,066 was the compound of Aryan Nations, 102 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:48,082 the white supremacist group. 103 00:06:50,384 --> 00:06:55,456 America's Promise Ministries, the religious arm of Aryan Nations, 104 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,968 happened to have a three-day retreat during my visit. 105 00:07:00,913 --> 00:07:02,548 So I decided to crash it. 106 00:07:02,572 --> 00:07:05,184 (Laughter) 107 00:07:05,208 --> 00:07:10,043 I'm the only non-Aryan journalist I'm aware of ever to have done so. 108 00:07:10,067 --> 00:07:11,128 (Laughter) 109 00:07:11,153 --> 00:07:15,766 Among the many memorable episodes of that retreat ... 110 00:07:15,790 --> 00:07:17,059 (Laughter) 111 00:07:17,083 --> 00:07:20,975 ... is when Abe, an Aryan, sidled up next to me. 112 00:07:20,999 --> 00:07:26,419 He slapped my knee, and he said, "Hey Rich, I just want you to know one thing. 113 00:07:26,443 --> 00:07:30,943 We are not white supremacists. We are white separatists. 114 00:07:30,967 --> 00:07:32,841 We don't think we're better than you, 115 00:07:32,865 --> 00:07:34,554 we just want to be away from you." 116 00:07:34,578 --> 00:07:38,992 (Laughter) 117 00:07:39,016 --> 00:07:46,011 Indeed, most white people in Whitopia are neither white supremacists 118 00:07:46,035 --> 00:07:47,850 or white separatists; 119 00:07:47,874 --> 00:07:51,799 in fact, they're not there for explicitly racial reasons at all. 120 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:55,196 Rather, they emigrate there 121 00:07:55,220 --> 00:07:58,928 for friendliness, comfort, security, safety -- 122 00:07:58,952 --> 00:08:03,945 reasons that they implicitly associate to whiteness in itself. 123 00:08:05,064 --> 00:08:06,938 Next stop was Georgia. 124 00:08:08,224 --> 00:08:12,336 In Georgia, I stayed in an exurb north of Atlanta. 125 00:08:13,027 --> 00:08:14,822 In Utah, I found poker; 126 00:08:14,846 --> 00:08:16,537 in Idaho, I found guns; 127 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:18,115 in Georgia, I found God. 128 00:08:18,139 --> 00:08:19,378 (Laughter) 129 00:08:19,402 --> 00:08:22,975 The way that I immersed myself in this Whitopia 130 00:08:22,999 --> 00:08:26,390 was to become active at First Redeemer Church, 131 00:08:26,414 --> 00:08:29,918 a megachurch that's so huge that it has golf carts 132 00:08:29,942 --> 00:08:35,107 to escort the congregants around its many parking lots on campus. 133 00:08:35,758 --> 00:08:38,467 I was active in the youth ministry. 134 00:08:38,491 --> 00:08:43,423 And for me, personally, I was more comfortable in this Whitopia 135 00:08:43,447 --> 00:08:48,080 than say, in a Colorado, or an Idaho, or even a suburban Boston. 136 00:08:48,999 --> 00:08:52,089 That is because [there], in Georgia, 137 00:08:52,113 --> 00:08:56,632 white people and black people are more historically familiar to one another. 138 00:08:57,092 --> 00:08:59,888 I was less exotic in this Whitopia. 139 00:08:59,912 --> 00:09:01,912 (Laughter) 140 00:09:02,684 --> 00:09:04,271 But what does it all mean? 141 00:09:05,042 --> 00:09:10,423 Whitopian dreaming, Whitopia migration, is a push-pull phenomenon, 142 00:09:10,447 --> 00:09:14,588 full of alarming pushes and alluring pulls, 143 00:09:14,612 --> 00:09:21,225 and Whitopia operates at the level of conscious and unconscious bias. 144 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:27,263 It's possible for people to be in Whitopia not for racist reasons, 145 00:09:27,287 --> 00:09:29,577 though it has racist outcomes. 146 00:09:31,704 --> 00:09:35,548 Many Whitopians feel pushed by illegals, 147 00:09:35,572 --> 00:09:41,089 social welfare abuse, minorities, density, crowded schools. 148 00:09:41,113 --> 00:09:46,292 Many Whitopians feel pulled by merit, 149 00:09:46,316 --> 00:09:52,080 freedom, the allure of privatism -- privatized places, privatized people, 150 00:09:52,104 --> 00:09:53,421 privatized things. 151 00:09:55,524 --> 00:10:01,112 And I learned in Whitopia how a country can have racism 152 00:10:01,136 --> 00:10:02,471 without racists. 153 00:10:03,241 --> 00:10:06,028 Many of my smug urban liberal friends 154 00:10:06,052 --> 00:10:08,789 couldn't believe I would go on such a venture. 155 00:10:09,447 --> 00:10:14,969 The reality is that many white Americans are affable and kind. 156 00:10:15,643 --> 00:10:20,412 Interpersonal race relations -- how we treat each other as human beings -- 157 00:10:20,436 --> 00:10:24,043 are vastly better than in my parents' generation. 158 00:10:25,162 --> 00:10:28,785 Can you imagine me going to Whitopia 40 years ago? 159 00:10:29,596 --> 00:10:31,484 What a journey that would have been. 160 00:10:31,508 --> 00:10:33,266 (Laughter) 161 00:10:33,290 --> 00:10:35,159 And yet, some things haven't changed. 162 00:10:35,572 --> 00:10:42,283 America is as residentially and educationally segregated today 163 00:10:42,307 --> 00:10:44,874 as it was in 1970. 164 00:10:47,523 --> 00:10:52,154 As Americans, we often find ways to cook for each other, 165 00:10:52,178 --> 00:10:53,798 to dance with each other, 166 00:10:53,822 --> 00:10:55,695 to host with each other, 167 00:10:55,719 --> 00:11:00,767 but why can't that translate into how we treat each other as communities? 168 00:11:01,235 --> 00:11:03,355 It's a devastating irony, 169 00:11:03,379 --> 00:11:06,691 how we have gone forward as individuals, 170 00:11:06,715 --> 00:11:09,325 and backwards as communities. 171 00:11:11,766 --> 00:11:16,059 One of the Whitopian outlooks that really hit me 172 00:11:16,083 --> 00:11:18,255 was a proverbial saying: 173 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:21,755 "One black man is a delightful dinner guest; 174 00:11:21,779 --> 00:11:23,821 50 black men is a ghetto." 175 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:35,755 One of the big contexts animating my Whitopian journey was the year 2042. 176 00:11:36,668 --> 00:11:42,776 By 2042, white people will no longer be the American majority. 177 00:11:43,450 --> 00:11:46,751 As such, will there be more Whitopias? 178 00:11:48,926 --> 00:11:50,613 In looking at this, 179 00:11:50,637 --> 00:11:57,344 the danger of Whitopia is that the more segregation we have, 180 00:11:57,368 --> 00:12:03,169 the less we can look at and confront conscious and unconscious bias. 181 00:12:06,304 --> 00:12:10,665 I ventured on my two-year, 27,000 mile journey 182 00:12:10,689 --> 00:12:15,776 to learn where, why, and how white people are fleeing, 183 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,542 but I didn't expect to have so much fun on my journey. 184 00:12:18,566 --> 00:12:19,573 (Laughter) 185 00:12:19,597 --> 00:12:22,487 I didn't expect to learn so much about myself. 186 00:12:23,408 --> 00:12:26,856 I don't expect I'll be living in a Whitopia -- 187 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,991 or a Blacktopia, for that matter. 188 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:33,201 I do plan to continue golfing every chance I get. 189 00:12:33,225 --> 00:12:34,787 (Laughter) 190 00:12:34,811 --> 00:12:39,436 And I'll just have to leave the guns and megachurches back in Whitopia. 191 00:12:40,714 --> 00:12:41,866 Thank you. 192 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:47,976 (Applause)