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Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.50,0:00:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Arequipa,\N333 Puente Bolognesi Street
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.38,0:00:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inspiration \N-The inspiration came mainly
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.23,0:00:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a desire to promote\Nthe visual arts, music, drama,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.42,0:00:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all types of artistic expression\Nin the city.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.53,0:00:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what led\Nto the birth of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.86,0:00:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tambo de Bronce.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.15,0:00:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It has been here\Nfor three years.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.69,0:00:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hold digital photography workshops,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.21,0:00:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I teach the music workshop,\Nworkshops for percussion,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.84,0:00:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for different types\Nof instruments.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.86,0:00:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also hold concerts,\Nexhibitions, etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.65,0:00:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Our principles, which we've\Nheld from the start
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.07,0:00:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which we want\Nto maintain,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.67,0:00:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are self management\Nand alternative education.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.72,0:00:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tambo de Bronce\Nis independent
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.95,0:00:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's open to any proposals,\Nwhich can be put to us
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.48,0:00:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if they're for the good\Nof the community
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.11,0:00:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and society, then they are\Nvery welcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.06,0:01:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,History
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.69,0:01:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Tambos have existed\Nsince early times,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.23,0:01:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the times of the Incas,\Nor even earlier.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.09,0:01:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are places where travellers
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.38,0:01:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop to rest after their journey.\NThat's a tambo.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.02,0:01:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was one here; all\Naround here were tambos.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.77,0:01:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why it's called\NTambo de Bronce.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.85,0:01:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started off as\Na sculptor's workshop.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.62,0:01:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we came with a friend\Nto see it
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.14,0:01:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were sculptures.\NThe place was abandoned.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.26,0:01:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It hadn't been used\Nfor a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.20,0:01:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they let us have\Nthe place.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.19,0:01:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As the rent is so cheap,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.31,0:01:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's affordable for us\Nto self-manage it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.77,0:01:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the idea occurred to us,\Nthree years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.28,0:01:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should use it to hold\Nworkshops and concerts, etc.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.40,0:01:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Three years ago\Nthere was nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.88,0:01:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-We often want to do\Nnew projects.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.07,0:01:51.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have asked for\Na children's home,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.61,0:01:53.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a gallery\Nto hold exhibitions,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.32,0:01:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and often, because of\Nthe bureaucracy,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.20,0:01:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the process is long.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.52,0:01:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like the initiative\Nto open this venue
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.54,0:02:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was delayed by bureaucracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.75,0:02:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a work of art,\Na project
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.99,0:02:05.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can come and\Nexhibit it here.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.41,0:02:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Audience\NOur stated aim was to work
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.06,0:02:14.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mainly with children,\Nyoung people and teenagers.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.63,0:02:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we also see\Nadults and older people,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.68,0:02:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and children come \Nto see what we offer,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.67,0:02:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we see their interest. \N
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.30,0:02:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We involve all sorts of people,\Nbecause of their interest,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.20,0:02:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their love and their passion\Nfor something,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.34,0:02:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's photography,\Npainting or music.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.73,0:02:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all here,\Nwhich is a good thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.68,0:02:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Organisation
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.10,0:02:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we're working on\Nbecoming an association.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.40,0:02:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That will give us the tools\Nwe're looking for
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.63,0:02:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to obtain grants\Nfor all sorts of things
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.88,0:02:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we need in order to \Nexpand the project further.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.38,0:02:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Decisions are always taken\Nby all of us together.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.88,0:02:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We discuss things a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.85,0:02:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Communication
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.95,0:02:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Tambo's\Ncommunication networks
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.18,0:03:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are mostly virtual ones,\Nwhich are faster
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.18,0:03:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we also network through\Nother cultural centres
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.47,0:03:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and television, as we have\Nslots in the programmes
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.16,0:03:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are made in Arequipa.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.12,0:03:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I am slightly critical of\Nis that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.72,0:03:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need more mass\Ncommunication media,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.49,0:03:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like radios, to have\Na real impact
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.32,0:03:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in our work it's difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.62,0:03:22.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To secure truly mass media\Nis very difficult
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.51,0:03:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it's expensive; it's like\Na closed door to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.91,0:03:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-We work with a few\Nother cultural centres
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.93,0:03:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have opened\Nover the last few years.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.16,0:03:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is called Pucara Bulls,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.96,0:03:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we mostly work with them\Non promotion.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.44,0:03:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They promote their events\Nthrough our channels,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.02,0:03:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we promote\Nour events through theirs.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.77,0:03:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we and they have\Ndifferent databases,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.95,0:03:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this way we can\Nreach more people.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.50,0:03:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sustainability
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.82,0:03:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of the Tambo's\Nsustainability,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.19,0:03:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the moment it is\Nself sustaining.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.66,0:04:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been self managed\Nsince it opened, until now.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.47,0:04:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Sometimes we do work\Nfor events;
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.06,0:04:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a part of the Tambo\Nthat makes
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.53,0:04:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stretched canvases\Nfor events,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.20,0:04:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and part of the income earned\Ngoes to the Tambo.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.88,0:04:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We put on shows\Nevery Thursday
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.63,0:04:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we call the \NTambo Sessions.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.65,0:04:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also sell things,\Nlike food and drinks. \N
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.96,0:04:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this, and the fact that\Nthis place is so cheap to rent,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.04,0:04:32.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make it possible for us\Nto continue working.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.87,0:04:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If, for some reason,\Nsomething happens,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.92,0:04:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need money,\Nwe put on an event.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.26,0:04:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Integration
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.37,0:04:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea was just to\Ncreate a venue
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.74,0:04:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for small audiences,\Nbut the moment that
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.73,0:04:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people see that it's something\Ndifferent in the city,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.91,0:04:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that there's\Nnothing like it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.81,0:04:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they decide that\NTambo de Bronce
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.49,0:04:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of their favourite\Ncultural venues.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.34,0:04:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We always have plenty\Nof activities.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.80,0:04:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the only cultural venue\Nto stay open
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.78,0:04:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for three years in Arequipa;\Nit has not closed,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.36,0:05:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and continues to promote\Nnew alternatives
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.62,0:05:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and culture in general.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.04,0:05:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-We've worked with schools,\Nand brought children here.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.68,0:05:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-We work with\Ncultural groups.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.68,0:05:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are independent\Nfestivals organised
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.47,0:05:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the city that often ask us\Nto work with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.81,0:05:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are prepared to help with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.71,0:05:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the logistical side,\Nthe production,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.47,0:05:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the work that is our\Narea of expertise.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.47,0:05:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Culture in Arequipa\NThere are fewer and fewer
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.59,0:05:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,venues open\Nto the people of the city.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.64,0:05:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are venues\Npossibly, which
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.58,0:05:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can access if you have\Nan invitation,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.86,0:05:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you are a member,\Nor you can pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.86,0:05:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think art should be\Namong the people,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.13,0:05:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the neighbourhoods,\Nwhere it belongs
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.100,0:05:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where it's most needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.32,0:05:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Arequipa's cultural centres,\None by one,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.60,0:05:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been closing down.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.98,0:05:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used to have one\Ndedicated to theatre,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.28,0:05:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called La Comuna;\Nit closed two years ago,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.32,0:05:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,due to problems with the local\Ncouncil, that sort of thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.45,0:05:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's illogical that\Nthe local councils,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.72,0:06:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of promoting us,\Nand realising
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.64,0:06:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'They're doing our work, so
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.64,0:06:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give them the permits\Nand support they need',
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.34,0:06:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they shut us down;\Nit's illogical.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.13,0:06:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They won't do it, and they\Nwon't let us do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.01,0:06:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-There was a story\Nin the newspaper
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.90,0:06:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the council had\None and a half million dollars
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.42,0:06:15.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a budget for culture
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.100,0:06:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they returned it\Nto central govenrment
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.03,0:06:20.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Lima because they didn't\Nknow how to use it.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.22,0:06:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same officials\Nin charge of culture
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.06,0:06:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been there for 20 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.78,0:06:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just rotate posts\Nso that it looks like
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.55,0:06:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not in the same post\Nfor 20 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.75,0:06:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Sadly, where culture is\Nconcerned, it seems
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.34,0:06:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only thing the council\Nsees as important is
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.63,0:06:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the festival for the Day of\NArequipa, the parades.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.28,0:06:43.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although there are other important things,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.41,0:06:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the money goes\Nto that,\N
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.75,0:06:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the budget goes there,\Nall the logistics,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.73,0:06:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the human resources.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.61,0:06:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other things, \Nthe alternative culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.33,0:06:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just have to be undertaken\Nby the artists themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.58,0:06:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-To be really effective in\Na job like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.68,0:07:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a person must be\Na cultural manager,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.36,0:07:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they need to have\Nstudied the subject.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.64,0:07:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They must have experience\Nand be an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.84,0:07:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They also need to know\Nwhat they're doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.68,0:07:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you talk to those people,\N
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.28,0:07:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they know nothing about it,\Nso they can't make
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.92,0:07:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an informed decision on any\Nproblem they face in their job.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.98,0:07:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's also the fact\Nthat the universities
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.88,0:07:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not interested either.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.86,0:07:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the public are not\Ntrained in this either;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.11,0:07:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's as if in this area\Neverything is decaying.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.72,0:07:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There needs to be a change\Nin the form of a national policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.63,0:07:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Struggles
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.35,0:07:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Integration was a problem\Nat the start.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.64,0:07:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a traditional\Nneighbourhood
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.48,0:07:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which people are used\Nto a quiet life.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.49,0:07:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We musicians came along,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.47,0:07:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making a racket every day,\Nplaying drums;
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.48,0:07:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first problem is\Nbeing accepted.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.68,0:07:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the same with\Nother cultural centres.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.49,0:07:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Lima there was a lady, who\Nsang in a Blues band,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.02,0:08:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who told me that\Nwith her centre
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.90,0:08:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first problem, apart from\Nthe council, was the residents,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.91,0:08:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting them to understand\Nthat what we do is our job.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.67,0:08:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just a bit of fun or\Nsomething casual.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.25,0:08:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that's the first barrier
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.62,0:08:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that slowly had\Nto be overcome.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.15,0:08:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've lasted three years\Nand we're still going.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.83,0:08:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The council is one endless\Nproblem and the other
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.49,0:08:28.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is communication with\Nother cultural centres.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.03,0:08:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Communication is lost,\NI don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.63,0:08:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether through envy or\Nthrough personal inclination.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.62,0:08:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We get dragged into it a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.62,0:08:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps if each centre\Nwere ...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.02,0:08:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Your centre is for theatre,\Nmine is for poetry',
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.10,0:08:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd get on better together;
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.90,0:08:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'My centre is underground,\Nyous is half naturist'.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.99,0:08:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, we won't go down\Nthat road,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.02,0:08:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there are many disputes;\Nit holds back progress
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.38,0:08:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is one of the biggest tests
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.42,0:08:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we face, because the people\Nand the artists
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.92,0:09:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not used\Nto working together.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.52,0:09:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of uniting,\Nthey become divided,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.34,0:09:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the great problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.93,0:09:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I believe another problem\Nis how to reach more people,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.80,0:09:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have better means\Nof communication,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.31,0:09:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our networks are\Nwide, but they don't really
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.98,0:09:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reach far enough,and for the\Npeople we want to reach
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.78,0:09:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the social network\Ndoesn't seem to work.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.68,0:09:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to make flyers and so on
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.34,0:09:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to\Ninvest money,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.15,0:09:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it doesn't guarantee\Nmany people.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.71,0:09:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need access to radios,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.85,0:09:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or mass communication,\Nor programmes
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.91,0:09:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that have a mass audience\Nat peak viewing times.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.20,0:09:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our work has taught us
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.04,0:09:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the street is the most\Nimmediate
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.27,0:09:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and is where the large-scale\Naction happens.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.46,0:09:48.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put on concerts and festivals\Nin the street,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.48,0:09:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that is where\Ndemocracy is.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.29,0:09:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the street people walk,\Npeople of all social levels.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.42,0:09:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's the best option,\Nespecially when
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.12,0:09:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the communication media\Ndon't offer any alternative,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.87,0:10:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The street is the last resort,\Nso that the person
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.87,0:10:03.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking along there\Nsees something new. \N
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.100,0:10:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-It's also a great weakness\Nthat so far, no business
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.96,0:10:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has become involved\Nwith Tambo de Bronce.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.13,0:10:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The interest is there;
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.53,0:10:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends have come from\Nthe brewery,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.23,0:10:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from large companies,\Nfrom the brickworks,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.96,0:10:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't really\Nbelieve that art is necessary
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.57,0:10:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or they don't believe it so far.\NIt's illogical.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.23,0:10:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say, 'If I give this money\Nto your cultural centre,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.15,0:10:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you can work with\Nthese young people,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.47,0:10:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no-one will see it, so it's\Nbetter if I pay for
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.23,0:10:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a football pitch, although\Nthere are many already,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.97,0:10:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or another monument,\Nand then
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.67,0:10:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say, ''Oh thank you,\Nyou've helped me!'' '
Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.38,0:10:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a big problem, because\Nwe need money, grants.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.32,0:10:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Now there is a Law of\NCultural Patronage,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.76,0:10:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we don't have the tools\Nto secure patronage.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.14,0:10:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we've started using\Nthe association
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.98,0:10:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a means to obtain that too.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.35,0:10:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the major problem is that\Nthe PR director
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.69,0:11:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a given company operates\Nas if 'You are a friend,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.58,0:11:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I do you a favour,' and there's never a contest
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.48,0:11:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for projects to\Ncompete for grants
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.37,0:11:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in places such as Arequipa.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.18,0:11:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Education in art and music\Nis very poor.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.89,0:11:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the biggest universities\Nhere, there are no faculties,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.68,0:11:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, of philosophy,\Nmusic or art.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.91,0:11:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are only faculties\Nof studies that generate
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.37,0:11:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immediate income such as\Nengineering, law, medicine.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.62,0:11:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This puts us, in Arequipa,\Nin a situation where
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.24,0:11:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are penned in,\Nbecause the universities
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.08,0:11:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't produce people\Nwho can appreciate culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.66,0:11:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the task is left to us,\Nto show them
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.03,0:11:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is an alternative.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.41,0:11:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the Tambo we've lasted\Na long time
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.32,0:11:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really we do\Neverything ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.33,0:11:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On one hand that a\Nbad thing, and we suffer,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.53,0:11:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've managed it alone\Nso far
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.64,0:11:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what we have learnt\Nfrom being alone
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.27,0:11:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that we can do it, so with\Nsupport we could do
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.57,0:12:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a thousand things,\Nwe could do wonders.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.35,0:12:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we had support and funding
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.13,0:12:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd know how to use them,\Nas we've
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.84,0:12:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,managed with nothing, and\Nstill done things.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.04,0:12:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All this has given us\Ngreat strength.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.99,0:12:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Having the chance to learn\Nmore and more,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.53,0:12:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you survive in permanently\Ndifficult conditions,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.24,0:12:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it makes you strong,\Nso that you survive,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.66,0:12:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you become like this, you\Nprotect yourself,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.66,0:12:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can do it because\Nyou know how.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.24,0:12:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I'm not from Arequipa,\NI'm from a place
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.08,0:12:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that mainly makes its living\Nfrom fishing and mining,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.58,0:12:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't have access\Nto a cultural centre.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.49,0:12:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a municipal arts\Ncentre; every district has one
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.72,0:12:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you go in, there's\Njust a desk and bare walls,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.89,0:12:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you open up\Nthose venues,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.93,0:12:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you give people opportunities.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.98,0:12:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With just one open venue\Nwe may be influencing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.56,0:12:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the future of at least 200\Nor 300 children
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.94,0:12:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and young people, with\Nno more than
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.90,0:12:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the interest, will and\Ninspiration that drive us.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.92,0:12:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The future
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.33,0:13:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hope to find a business\Nthat will give us a grant,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.40,0:13:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that we will be free to work\Nwith any young people,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.48,0:13:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most of all with children,\Nso that we can train them
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.88,0:13:11.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to continue our work when\Nwe are no longer here.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.89,0:13:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to train children\Nso that
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.92,0:13:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can use what we\Nhave taught them,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.60,0:13:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in the practical\Naspects of their lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.80,0:13:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to inform\Ntheir values.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.100,0:13:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now the demand from\Nthe people who come here,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.94,0:13:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether as visitors, or as\Nexhibitors, is so great
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.46,0:13:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we see a need\Nfor another venue.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.63,0:13:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A venue that can\Naccommodate all of this,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.65,0:13:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as theatre, music,\Nexhibitions, a bigger place.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.90,0:13:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Advice
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.90,0:13:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the outset\Nyou always have to be
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.62,0:13:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humble in your ideas\Nand flexible in your thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.05,0:13:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because in the end,\Nmy idea is better
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.25,0:13:52.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there are other\Npeople involved.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.78,0:13:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it always enriches\Nthe project.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.26,0:13:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe we must\Nalways be inclusive.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.70,0:13:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-Most of all, believe\Nin what you are doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.66,0:14:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will always be\Nups and downs, things that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.77,0:14:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discourage us from\Ncontinuing with our work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.91,0:14:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing to do\Nis to press on,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.79,0:14:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe in your dreams\Nand your desires.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.32,0:14:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No more than that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.100,0:14:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just go on,\Nconstantly working,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.96,0:14:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and always use the centre\Nas a place for production.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.49,0:14:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often leisure and enjoyment\Ndistract us,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.49,0:14:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we must fight against that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.37,0:14:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It must be a place for\Nthe production
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.28,0:14:30.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and dissemination of\Nour ideas, nothing else.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.49,0:14:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do it and believe in it.\NThat is what works.