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so we have questions from across the

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world thousands of people in the our

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virtual audience and also questions from

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our live audience here so we will take a

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question from the virtual audience first

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and then I will get your questions ready

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I'll ask you to raise your hands and you

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can come forward and ask your questions

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yes Diane okay sorry we have questions

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start off with about which path which

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guru and what duty and South questions

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come from Jo T with the fish vision and

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Cleveland Ohio and he says how does one

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to left a path to follow

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for example Kriya yoga Siddhanta bhakti

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etcetera singing the Ramayan for example

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brings me to tears routinely since it

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talks at the heart this link uh Vedantic

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talks is so utterly logical that it

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appeals to the scientists however I do

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not want to give the proverbial well in

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too many races looking for water it

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appears this is a question that one has

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to answer for oneself again hoping for

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your guidance for a way out of this

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dilemma so those of us who are still

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living active samsara life then which

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guru related to the above question it is

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said that even the most knowledgeable

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guru cannot actually make one experience

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the divine Brahma yet the need for a

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guru is emphasized for spiritual

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guidance it's also said that for the

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true seeker the Guru finds the disciple

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and not the other way around

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the definition of the truth seeker may

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not fully applied to many like me

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however you have to do exactly such

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people that perhaps need help from us

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how would one know it is time how would

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one recognized as Lulu how should one

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seeker glue

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if one moves forward to choose a group

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then doesn't want automatically

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pre-select a particular path that brings

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us back to question number one and if

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then then we have a question from Niraj

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who says I'm writing for guidance for

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one of the common problems we often hear

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and read about that you should follow

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your beauty but I don't know what is my

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duty how I decide so these are questions

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regarding the spiritual path and guru

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you see all the paths can be

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fundamentally classified into the for

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yoga Swami where they can just spoke

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about gana yoga the path of

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philosophical discrimination will be

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realized that I am Brahman by in an

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intuition by philosophy then there is

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the path of meditation Raja Yoga

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Patanjali yoga where the idea is to

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meditate to calm the mind down so that

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the truth becomes evident that I am the

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witness self then there is the path of

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love which is the most common in in all

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the religions of the world where there

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is faith in God and love and surrender

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to God and trying to live live a godly

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life then there is a path of converting

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our our actions into spiritual practice

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the path of service karma yoga all these

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are different paths to spiritual

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realization and in the different

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religions of the world you will find

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basically these are the main types of

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practices they may go under various

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names there may be various mixtures of

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these folks but fundamentally these are

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the four kinds of practices we find in

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spiritual life it's interesting to note

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that we have even psychology says we

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have three kinds of powers there is a

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cognitive domain thinking

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there is the cognitive domain we'll

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doing something and there is the

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affective domain emotion feeling these

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are the three aspects of our psyche and

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you can easily see that the three of

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them are related to three of the yoga's

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one of them is related the cognitive

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domain is related to gana yoga the

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affective domain - bhakti yoga and the

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cognitive domain - Karma Yoga and Raja

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concentration of focus so all of these

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powers are present in each of us Swami

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are different

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the same size shirt will not fit with

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any two persons so people are different

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we have different natures some are more

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active some are more contemplative some

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are by nature more rational and

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inquisitive some are devotional they

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find it much easier to love and

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surrender so depending on our own nature

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the kind of path we take it depends a

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great deal on on our own nature the the

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safest and the most comprehensive path

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Swami Vivekananda recommended for

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everybody he said the harmony of the

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four yoga's karma yoga bhakti yoga raja

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yoga and ghana yoga it is the harmony of

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the four yoga's that is the path that is

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most suitable for our modern age in our

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lives we should have a component of a

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philosophy of reasoning of understanding

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we should have a component of meditation

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daily meditation and a component where

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you love and worship and adore God in

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whatever form that is your tradition or

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what appeals to you and also make sure

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that our lives are of use to others in

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karma yoga so all of these four yoga's

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are part of our spiritual practice if

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you see the emblem of the Ramakrishna

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order you find nothing here in the

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lectern emblem of the Ramakrishna order

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which Swami Vivekananda's EIN here in

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Society of New York he said that the

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emblem represents all the four aspects

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you have the baby waters which represent

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karma you have the Sun of knowledge

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rising in the back gana yoga you have

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the Lotus of bhakti and then you have

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the encircling serpent which represents

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the power of Kundalini which in turn

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represents yoga Patanjali over the power

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of concentration so by by understanding

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by devotion by action and by meditation

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one can realize God this is what he

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recommended now depending on our nature

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the particular mix that we will follow

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will vary you start off with all four

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and you will see over time you may be

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more attracted to Ghani yoga you may be

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a bhakta you may be more attracted to

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bhakti yoga you see you notice within

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yourself that reciting the Ramayana

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brings tears to your eyes but that says

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something about your nature so one may

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have on may develop a tendency towards

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the walk towards one of these paths and

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the other should also be kept even

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though you may not be particularly

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attracted to a particular path which

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should be kept as a part of one

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spiritual repertoire the reason is even

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if you are not not very comfortable or

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it's not very easy for us to do one

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thing somebody says I love working I

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love serving people but don't ask me to

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meditate but invariably this one we will

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ask you to meditate somebody wants to

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meditate a lot and he is told to go and

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go and work swami ashok ananda said when

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I tell you to work I can see the

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rebellious look on your face you think

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perhaps that the Swami does not think

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highly of my my capabilities as a

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spiritual seeker perhaps he thinks I am

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NOT ready for meditation well I will

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show him and then Ashok aunty says and

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you will show me but not in the way you

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think so often the path which we are

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uncomfortable with or which we

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not capable of doing so far those are

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the parts which which are of maximum

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benefit to us because those are the

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sides of our personality we have not yet

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developed it's good to operate in a zone

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of minimal discomfort in the zone of

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absolute comfort growth is not possible

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in the result of great discomfort again

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growth is disturbed but some discomfort

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where you are pushing yourself a little

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beyond your present capabilities that's

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when we grow so the harmony of the four

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yoga's is to be kept in one spiritual

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life guru is very important in spiritual

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life especially in the Indian traditions

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one reason is these are knowledge

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traditions and knowledge always requires

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a a teacher in fact one of the ways in

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which we conceive of God or Brahman in

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Hinduism is as the adi guru the first

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guru the guru of gurus in fact a famous

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guru stotra mr. guru brahma guru vishnu

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guru devo maheswara guru deva param

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brahma tasmai shri gurave namaha now

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whom should you select as a guru really

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speaking guru is selected for you

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already that's what we hear from our

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tradition but a certain criteria are

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mentioned in our innovate antic texts

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and open ishod's shroud tree of brahman

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be well-versed in the tradition which

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tradition in Vedanta we will say

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vedantic tradition must we will well

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learn it in the Upanishads Gita in the

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brahma sutras in vedantic text and abel

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and must have the ability to transfer

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this knowledge but it need not be

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limited to the vedantic tradition

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whatever tradition the guru should

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represent some tradition there is a lot

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of discussion about this why can't a

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person who has realized the truth in a

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person who is illumined does not belong

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to any particular tradition why can't

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such a person be my guru well can be but

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really it's very difficult to know who

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is illumined and who is not

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example you go out to a store to buy

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something you would rather buy say

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computer or or anything a stove or or a

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piece of equipment which has the brand

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in an accepted brand an apple or

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which which you which people trust and

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which people believe and which has

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delivered the goods again and again so

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there is some quality control you know

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that when it comes from this particular

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brand there is some assurance of quality

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example you go to the shop and you buy a

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computer but if you see a guy standing

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outside the store and saying hey come

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I made this computer in my garage and

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it's better than any computer we'll get

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in that store now mind you he may be

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right he just may be right who knows but

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he may not be right also and you have

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only that much money to spend now almost

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always you will go and buy something

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from the store because there's a

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guarantee of safety there now in the

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same way we have these traditions there

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are Vaishnava traditions there are non

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dualist traditions there dualist

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Christianity various traditions in the

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Buddhism in other religions of the world

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where something has continued for

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centuries for millennia we talked about

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the Buddha to the 2500 years this

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tradition is continued and there are

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reports of enlightened persons in this

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tradition year after year century after

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century so you know it works so the

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person who is teaching us belong to some

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tradition and must be learn it in at

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least in that tradition must have the

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ability to transfer the knowledge of

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restoration

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that's one but that's not enough second

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there are scholars who are learning in

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the tradition but does that person

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practice it in his or her own life

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second thing is Brahman Easter is the

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entire life built around that teaching

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is the entire life built around

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spirituality brahma-nistham means

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dedicated to

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established in Bremen if the person is a

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human nothing like it the person is an

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enlightened person nothing like it

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that's best of course but that's very

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rare and that's very difficult for us to

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verify what we can do is look at the

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person's life is that person leading a

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spiritual a this is primarily a

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spiritual person or a spiritual teaching

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a part-time job for that person so

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Brahman Ishta means person must be a

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full-time dedicated at least a spiritual

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seeker is not a person who is already

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enlightened and the third criterion for

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a guru is a car Mahuta literally

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translates into not injured or not

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destroyed by desire does the Guru want

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anything from you if it says pure ways

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to God realization $100 course crash

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course in meditation $50 come and I'll

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teach you meditation in three days you

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may crash but I don't know if you should

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really learn how to and there is some

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utility there may be again I'm not

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denying it because the person may know

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certain techniques and is teaching the

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technique but a general a good rule of

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thumb is the guru should not be making

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millions out of the Guru business there

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is somebody who joked he said there's

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only one business which is not affected

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by Wall Street it goes ups and downs in

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the economy and that's the religion

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business so it should not be a business

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it should not be way where the Guru

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wants something from you that's why the

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idea was all knowledge and specially

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spiritual knowledge is sacred and

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therefore free in the traditional

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ashrams in India the Guru would actually

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support the disciple staying in Daschle

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it take the help of the king or the

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other rich benefactors in society but

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those who are studying and learning in

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the ashram they were not expected to pay

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anything to the Guru only after

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completion of studies they would might

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might give a gift of guru Dakshina

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so these are the three criterion Shaurya

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well learn it in a particular trade

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where does this person come from you

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should ask that question

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second completely dedicated to spiritual

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life and third is does not want anything

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material from me okay and the last

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question was about what is my duty in

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life well there is a in traditional

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scriptures you find the concept of

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swadharma your own karma that was easily

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defined in ancient India not so easy

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today why was it defined in ancient

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India because they had a rigid social

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structure they were castes and there was

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this what is called ash Rama that means

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stages of life so there are four castes

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in general the priestly the the warrior

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caste and the business class and a caste

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and the laborer cast before caste and

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before stages of life where your student

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and then you were a householder then you

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were a retired person and then you are a

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sannyasi a renunciate now the idea of

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Duty was built around this structure how

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did it work it worked like this there's

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an equation what is your duty in life

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swadharma they will say ashram and herma

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first if the five components ashram

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adharma ashram adharma means the duty of

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your station in life whether you are a

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student or a householder your duty will

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change the second one is a word no

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Dharma that means the duty determined by

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the cast by your family profession for

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example what you choose to do in those

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days it was very very little choice

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people sort of went into the profession

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of the parents and all that so are you a

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priest are you an administrator or your

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businessman are you a worker what are

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you so that is another component of your

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duty the third one was varnasrama-dharma

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the conjunction of the two are you a

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householder who is an administrator or a

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warrior then you have a duty are you

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householder who is a priest when you

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have some some other duty so for example

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when Krishna and Arjuna speak Arjuna is

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asking questions about what he should do

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and what he should not do now in this

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matrix which I am drawing for you look

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at where Arjuna is placed he is a

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householder and he's a shot Rhea a

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warrior so he's a warrior householder so

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he has some particular duties if he was

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a priest and household they would have

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some other duties if he was a business

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family and and a householder would have

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some other duty so what neshama Dharma

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the third one is called vitiation her

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militia Dharma means specific specific

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duties which come with your particular

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situation in life so for example Arjuna

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for that time being is a general in the

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in the Pandava army he was not earlier

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and he would not be later on but at that

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particular time he is a general in the

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Pandava army and so being a general

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gives him some special duties he's not

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just a warrior is not just any other

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householder he is also the general of

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the army I remember a lesson in this way

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I was taught this a long time ago when I

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was appointed the head the principal of

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a college but that that was a long time

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back 2002 and I was as I said quite

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night so I was made the principal and

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then they said so he worked from now on

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you are in charge of the college and I

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always had this monastic identity strong

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in me I said look I don't care about all

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this I'm a monk and that's it from then

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the principal who was retiring before me

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he sat me down he was not a monk he was

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a professor a householder but he handed

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over charge to me he sat me down and in

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private nobody knows about this and for

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the first time speaking out he said look

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I was not yet a Swami I was a brahmacari

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if he said look Maharaj

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I understand and appreciate your

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monastic ideals but also remember as

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long as you are sitting in this chair

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you are the principal of the college and

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people look up to you and as long as you

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are you have taken up this role you must

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play this role - you cannot say that I'm

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just a monk I am NOT the principal so

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that's called vitiation Irma I was not

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the principal earlier and I am NOT the

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principal of the college anymore

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but if as long as you are there you are

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expected to fulfill a role now look at

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the roles that we fulfill in life there

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are specific roles in situations you may

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be the manager of a company there are

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duties for that you may be a father or a

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mother there are duties for that you may

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be a son or a daughter there are duties

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for that you may be a friend a member of

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the community if you accept that you are

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a citizen of the country if you accept

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that I am a member of this community if

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these are the roles you accept yes then

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you cannot refuse to fulfill the

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obligations which come with that role

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you have to what is the connection with

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spiritual life remember all of this is

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meant for spiritual development do it

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positively do it seriously it helps in

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spiritual development

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howsoever leti but it does help so this

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is called vishesha Dharma and the last

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one is Sardar and herma general dharma

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which are truth unselfishness

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self-control something that human

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qualities everybody must have these fall

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within the universal norm of everybody

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so what have I said the question was

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what is your Dharma and the answer again

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in traditional old India will not work

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so easily today was swadharma your own

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Dharma is equal to ashram adharma warna

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Dharma varnasrama dharma vish a Dharma

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and sad hardened thermo the five

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components your stage your station in

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life your role in life the combination

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of your station enroll and then your

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specific situation in life and the

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general qualities of a human being

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so these are all part of your duty now

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this may not be specifically applicable

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to anybody let alone in the world even

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in India today because the old system is

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broken not twisted now but it can get

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throw some light on what I'm supposed to

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do now a simple answer would be a

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principle which I take anything that

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takes you Godward towards spiritual

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realization is your duty anything that

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takes you away from God is not your duty

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yes all right yes there's a question

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please come forward if to speak in the

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microphone please tell us your name I

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know your name but for the internet

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audience please it what do we sit when

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we read the gospel of ramakrishna sir

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over and over again he says God has

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become all this again come all beings

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serve Jeeva Shiva

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and we've heard from Holy Mother that

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Ramakrishna is definitely in there void

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but if these statements that God has

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become all doesn't sound like the world

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is a rope which we mistake for a snake

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so my question is is Ramakrishna a

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Shankara advisor okay difficult question

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but thank you because these are the

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questions that I enjoyed first of all a

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traditional Advaita

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would say would summarize his position

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as brahma satyam jagat mithya Jeeva

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Brahman even opera which means this rope

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snake example which you mentioned

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Brahman alone is real the world is in

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appearance and Who am I

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a real order in appearance you are real

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you are none other than brahmana Brahman

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is real

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the world is an appearance and you the

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individual being you are actually

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Brahman

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now when Ramakrishna says everything in

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the world is Brahman is God and worship

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everything as Shiva

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Giani ji receiver worship all ji

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in the knowledge that it is cheaper it

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can very well be interpreted in terms of

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traditional Advaita why you said that it

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doesn't seem to quite match the rope

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snake example it does actually we the

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way we are seeing the world how do we

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see the world right now unless you are

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enlightened right now the way we

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understand the world is these are human

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beings some of them are for my friends

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some of them I don't like some of them I

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like a lot some of them I mean

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indifferent to and these are Birds these

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are animals these are insects these are

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in sentient things like tables and

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chairs and buildings and atoms and

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galaxies this is how we see the universe

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we actually do not see the universe as

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God Brahman we read about it we hear

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lectures about it but we do not see it

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we are seeing the snake we are not

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seeing the rope even on Ramakrishna's

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position actually one Yemeni says

542
00:25:11,639 --> 00:25:14,460
everything is God here we don't see it

543
00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:18,090
that way it sounds nice it's nice to

544
00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:19,740
think about it but actually we don't

545
00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:22,529
feel it he sees it for him it's a

546
00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:24,990
reality he sees the rope we see the

547
00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,539
snake and the snake has to be corrected

548
00:25:27,539 --> 00:25:30,419
by knowledge that it is all brahman so

549
00:25:30,419 --> 00:25:33,570
from an from that perspective it matches

550
00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:35,490
the traditional advaitha position a

551
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:37,169
traditional adverting would find no

552
00:25:37,169 --> 00:25:40,919
fault in ceramic richness things would

553
00:25:40,919 --> 00:25:44,039
be happy with it but then there are lots

554
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:45,929
of things which Ramakrishna said which

555
00:25:45,929 --> 00:25:47,940
cannot be so conveniently packaged away

556
00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:51,090
as traditional of Greater somebody it's

557
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:53,009
in the letters of Swami Tori Ananda I

558
00:25:53,009 --> 00:25:56,129
think it's a Swami Sivananda who wrote

559
00:25:56,129 --> 00:25:57,960
to Swami Torian and the what was the

560
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,090
philosophy of sri ramakrishna somewhat

561
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:02,129
like your question was the anon dualist

562
00:26:02,129 --> 00:26:04,620
was he a qualified monist

563
00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:08,580
was he a duelist ad waiting we she

564
00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:10,320
stopped waiting Drayton or something

565
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,860
else and so long reply which Swami

566
00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:15,870
Torian on the G is given wonderful reply

567
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:18,840
it's worth reading when he discusses

568
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,210
various facets of what Sri Ramakrishna's

569
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:24,690
taught and then he says but if you push

570
00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:29,250
me so give me a straight answer what is

571
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:31,080
the philosophy of ceramics

572
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,919
then he says I will have to say the

573
00:26:34,919 --> 00:26:37,590
philosophy of Sri Ramakrishna is realize

574
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:41,190
God by whatever means possible in

575
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:43,350
Bengali it's even more direct Joshua Rey

576
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:46,620
Pavan LabCorp by whatever means possible

577
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:50,460
realized God that at the cohort seems to

578
00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:53,669
be what ceramic Krishna said but he gave

579
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:55,860
a lot of emphasis on on advaitha because

580
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:59,669
he said base yourself on Advaitic

581
00:26:59,669 --> 00:27:01,710
knowledge and then practice whatever you

582
00:27:01,710 --> 00:27:04,020
want to practice one of the things he

583
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:06,720
said but then he also put tremendous

584
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,700
emphasis on bhakti love of God good

585
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:14,280
question one more question from the

586
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,830
internet audience now yes so it will

587
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:21,809
come to you there was a question here

588
00:27:21,809 --> 00:27:27,960
also yeah there - now a question from

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,020
the Internet audience the question is

590
00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:35,760
fish in his discourses Swamiji mentions

591
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,679
that everything we experience in our

592
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:41,159
lives are objects such as the body soul

593
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,159
memory and that even a sense of I is

594
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:47,580
also an object if the sense of I is an

595
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:50,760
object unaware of when away it must be

596
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,900
in the racing mind

597
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,510
how then do we claim that it was I who

598
00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:57,360
is in deep sleep how do we have the

599
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,460
memory of the blackness of deep sleep

600
00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:02,309
and awake in mind this question has been

601
00:28:02,309 --> 00:28:04,140
troubling me and I would really

602
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:05,940
appreciate it if you could answer this

603
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:08,659
in the next minute

604
00:28:08,659 --> 00:28:11,280
that's a second question I'll repeat it

605
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,980
for you in case you missed it he says

606
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:18,659
Envy danta all of this these are objects

607
00:28:18,659 --> 00:28:21,570
for consciousness quite clearly look

608
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:23,490
around you everything that you

609
00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:25,289
experience is an object and you are the

610
00:28:25,289 --> 00:28:28,020
subject in your experience isn't that

611
00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:30,990
true if you look at your body that's the

612
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:32,909
same thing the body that you experience

613
00:28:32,909 --> 00:28:36,480
is an object in your awareness the mind

614
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720
that we experience if you experience the

615
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320
mind then mind is also an object and in

616
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,870
the

617
00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:48,250
the ego the i-ight if you feel it right

618
00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:50,530
now I if you feel it if you experience

619
00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:52,270
it within yourself no matter how subtle

620
00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:54,210
it's still an object

621
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:57,070
now this eye disappears in deep sleep

622
00:28:57,070 --> 00:29:01,660
and yet when I wake up in deep sleep we

623
00:29:01,660 --> 00:29:03,760
don't feel I am sleeping of course not

624
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,580
if you feel that you are not sleeping

625
00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:08,320
this is just a blankness but when we

626
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,720
wake up you say that I slipped and yet

627
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,010
that I was not there it's an object

628
00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:14,260
which was not during deep sleep but the

629
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:17,490
question is how do you reconcile this I

630
00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:23,040
Who am NOT there I claim that I slipped

631
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,890
it's a very subtle question and if you

632
00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:29,740
can answer this question and grasp the

633
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:31,270
answer to this question at the very

634
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:34,990
least you have grasped or greater and at

635
00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:38,470
best you will get enlightened that's how

636
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:45,250
powerful this question is here is the

637
00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:50,220
question points to a fault line in Maya

638
00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:53,620
there is a crack in this illusion we are

639
00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:57,580
living and this question actually points

640
00:29:57,580 --> 00:29:59,980
to that that that fault line if you

641
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:02,170
investigate their Maya does not want you

642
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:03,820
to investigate it'll direct you here and

643
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:06,280
there but if you investigate there the

644
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440
crack widens till the whole illusion

645
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,240
disappears and the truth is should be to

646
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,770
you the answer to the question is this

647
00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:16,540
if you only have understood the question

648
00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:18,790
then only the answer will make sense the

649
00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:22,929
answer to the question is this that I

650
00:30:22,929 --> 00:30:25,270
which was an original is an object in

651
00:30:25,270 --> 00:30:29,800
your waking state that I which was not

652
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,080
there in deep sleep it is true that I

653
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,230
did not experience deep sleep and yet

654
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:41,320
upon waking up when the mind starts

655
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,580
functioning that eye comes up it claims

656
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:49,660
that falsely I was asleep it claims that

657
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:50,590
I was asleep

658
00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:53,940
what does it claim it takes the

659
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:57,400
experiences which are still there

660
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,340
and there is a witness which recognizes

661
00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:04,210
the deep sleep experience that witness

662
00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:06,640
is not the eye the witness is the

663
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,370
witness of the eye also right now when

664
00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:16,320
you feel I am i what is feeling the eye

665
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,170
right now that witness it continues when

666
00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:23,050
the eye also shuts down I mean the this

667
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:25,300
this I shot down and the vertical eye

668
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,660
also shuts down in deep sleep that

669
00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:32,740
witness continues and the experience of

670
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:34,210
deep sleep is a technical point the

671
00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:36,460
experience of deep sleep is recorded in

672
00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:40,690
our Guiana in the anandamaya kosha the

673
00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:43,270
exact the answer you find in Vedanta

674
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:47,380
sorry says RT Sushma via Ghana with T V

675
00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:50,590
by an extremely subtle movement of a

676
00:31:50,590 --> 00:31:53,290
yawn anandamaya kosha this experience of

677
00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:55,960
deep sleep is also recorded now the

678
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,179
interesting thing happens is when you

679
00:31:58,179 --> 00:32:02,670
wake up the mind starts working and I

680
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,100
comes up and those experiences are there

681
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:11,020
and the i falsely mischievously coolly

682
00:32:11,020 --> 00:32:12,820
takes up the experiences of that and

683
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:16,059
said I he was asleep the ego was not

684
00:32:16,059 --> 00:32:19,210
there the witness experienced the real

685
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:22,540
Atman the sack she experienced the deep

686
00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:26,020
sleep experience illumined that that's

687
00:32:26,020 --> 00:32:28,059
why deep sleep you see the paradox of

688
00:32:28,059 --> 00:32:30,550
deep sleep in each of us say that we

689
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:33,010
experience deep sleep yet that

690
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:34,870
experience was not of the subject object

691
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,100
kind of experience which were having

692
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,230
right now because we cannot actually say

693
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:40,570
that I was there and I experienced deep

694
00:32:40,570 --> 00:32:43,600
sleep I was sleeping deeply no we can't

695
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,490
say that and yet we cannot in all

696
00:32:45,490 --> 00:32:47,679
honesty did deny that we have all

697
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,200
experienced deep sleep do you see this

698
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720
put these two facts together then

699
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,679
something startling it emerges what

700
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:59,770
experienced deep sleep what is it in you

701
00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:04,960
that experienced deep sleep in sir the

702
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,240
witness and instead of answering that

703
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,529
quickly can you actually trace it back

704
00:33:10,529 --> 00:33:13,539
can you try to feel it with that real

705
00:33:13,539 --> 00:33:15,340
witnesses right now it's present right

706
00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:19,799
here can you get some clarity about it

707
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,929
what will happen is you will be free of

708
00:33:22,929 --> 00:33:29,220
the ego you will realize I am NOT I

709
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,159
Shankaracharya of any sings manova

710
00:33:33,159 --> 00:33:35,950
ahankara cheat Thani Nam look at the

711
00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:39,130
contradictory nature of that line he

712
00:33:39,130 --> 00:33:42,039
says I am NOT the mind I am NOT the

713
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,740
intellect and not the memory they're all

714
00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:48,159
objects but funnily enough he says I am

715
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:50,710
NOT the ego ego means I literally if you

716
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:52,360
translate that put it on paper it will

717
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,490
read I am NOT I we sing it happily I

718
00:33:57,490 --> 00:34:00,070
think it's very profound but what a

719
00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:04,200
stunning thing he has said I am NOT I

720
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:10,300
think about this I the one which is

721
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,399
right now you say I am sitting in this

722
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:14,830
room and I am listening to the talk

723
00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:16,810
clearly the ego is saying it and ego is

724
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:20,260
right ego is right here but that ego

725
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:22,389
when it says re-experience deep sleep

726
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:24,520
it's a false statement and yet something

727
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,460
did experience deep sleep put these two

728
00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:29,918
facts together and something startling

729
00:34:29,918 --> 00:34:33,909
will reveal itself very good question

730
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:38,949
yes the reflected consciousness does not

731
00:34:38,949 --> 00:34:44,649
exist in deep sleep now we cannot speak

732
00:34:44,649 --> 00:34:47,469
like this because there is a it's being

733
00:34:47,469 --> 00:34:51,159
recorded for the purposes of the

734
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,869
internet now should I leave it there

735
00:34:55,869 --> 00:34:59,680
I'll come to you here is a question you

736
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,890
had a question please tell us your name

737
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:09,190
so me - my name is Rama and I'm going

738
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:11,619
back to the question the previous

739
00:35:11,619 --> 00:35:15,330
question your answers about the five

740
00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:18,790
stages of duty that you just spoke about

741
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:22,070
five components of swadharma five

742
00:35:22,070 --> 00:35:25,820
confidence of Swadesh whatever so and so

743
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:28,790
in the modern life even if you're

744
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:33,350
performing those duties it just sucks

745
00:35:33,350 --> 00:35:36,320
all your energy and they how do you

746
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,750
while performing duties make it

747
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:41,990
something that actually provides

748
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:44,060
spiritual growth because you can perform

749
00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:49,310
these very duties sincerely and yet you

750
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:51,530
may not feel that it translates to you

751
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:54,710
growing spiritually and you don't have

752
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:56,450
time in any other way to do anything

753
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,619
else other than perform your swaddling

754
00:35:59,619 --> 00:36:03,710
yes so how do you go about that it's a

755
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:07,460
good question we might say Swami you are

756
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:11,630
a Swami so your whole swadharma all your

757
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:13,670
roles or spiritual roles so you can

758
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:15,440
happily speak about spiritual life doing

759
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200
this and that but we are students and

760
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,660
teachers and mothers and fathers and and

761
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:23,510
so many things in society and all of

762
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:27,500
that energy and time how can I

763
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,359
convert those things into spiritual

764
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:30,700
practices if possible

765
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:33,470
indeed it is possible Swami Vivekananda

766
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:36,170
once walking in almoravid Korean energy

767
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:38,750
he said hurry by this time I have

768
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:42,740
started a new path this time that means

769
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:45,800
in this age I have carved out a new path

770
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600
for the youngsters who are going to come

771
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,000
after us they will work for the welfare

772
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,540
of others and thereby they will develop

773
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:55,100
themselves spiritually I am paraphrasing

774
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:58,040
this is not the language he used this

775
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,400
conversion of our day-to-day activities

776
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,040
into spiritual practice this is a

777
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,869
central teaching of the OP Swami

778
00:37:05,869 --> 00:37:08,530
Vivekananda sister nivedita said

779
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:10,910
henceforth no division between the sake

780
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:14,920
sacred and secular to labor is to pray

781
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,190
to have and hold is as sacred a trust as

782
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:24,530
to renounce and quit the shop floor the

783
00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:28,070
factory floor and and the office and the

784
00:37:28,070 --> 00:37:28,880
place of

785
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,630
they are as fit a place for the meeting

786
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:38,900
of man and God as the cell of a monk how

787
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:42,410
can we do that every work that we do at

788
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,450
the beginning of that work remember god

789
00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:46,970
whichever form you worship that my lord

790
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:49,069
this is my Dharma my swadharma in front

791
00:37:49,069 --> 00:37:50,809
of me might the role you have assigned

792
00:37:50,809 --> 00:37:52,940
me to play I'm going to play this role

793
00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:56,420
and mentally I offer it to you like a

794
00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:58,160
flower I offer at the feet of God I

795
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,890
offered this action at your feet at the

796
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:02,690
end of the work when you're finished

797
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:04,670
again remember the Lord and you offer

798
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:09,499
off of that slowly the attitude will be

799
00:38:09,499 --> 00:38:12,140
everything that I am doing it may be I'm

800
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:13,849
doing my job in the office it may be

801
00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:15,440
that I'm taking care of children in the

802
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,650
home or in the school it may be I'm just

803
00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:20,690
doing the same worldly activities but

804
00:38:20,690 --> 00:38:22,369
internally they'll be a tremendous

805
00:38:22,369 --> 00:38:24,589
transformation that I am doing

806
00:38:24,589 --> 00:38:27,259
everything for my beloved Krishna or

807
00:38:27,259 --> 00:38:31,759
Rama or or Christ whatever whichever

808
00:38:31,759 --> 00:38:33,609
form of God you are worshiping

809
00:38:33,609 --> 00:38:36,019
concentrate on that that I am doing

810
00:38:36,019 --> 00:38:38,479
these activities as worship to God and

811
00:38:38,479 --> 00:38:42,079
make sure more and more I don't want

812
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,559
anything from that for myself I am doing

813
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,859
it as a service to God so two things one

814
00:38:48,859 --> 00:38:50,930
is connect the activity to God and

815
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:53,779
second is a component of unselfishness

816
00:38:53,779 --> 00:38:55,880
as much as you can bring in remember

817
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,009
common sense if you are holding a job

818
00:38:58,009 --> 00:38:59,479
that does not mean the tomorrow onwards

819
00:38:59,479 --> 00:39:01,130
you I'll do the job but I won't take

820
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,109
salary from you anymore it's not

821
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:07,579
sustainable you can't do that here we

822
00:39:07,579 --> 00:39:09,979
are running an ashram so even as a monk

823
00:39:09,979 --> 00:39:12,380
I have to take donations so how much

824
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:13,880
more so when you are out in the world

825
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,469
and you are working you will definitely

826
00:39:15,469 --> 00:39:18,650
take your salary and earn what you have

827
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:22,609
to earn but that apart there should be

828
00:39:22,609 --> 00:39:25,400
no other particular selfish desire

829
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,769
behind Act that action the selfish

830
00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:32,119
desires like by this job by this role by

831
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:36,229
this salary or by this promotion I will

832
00:39:36,229 --> 00:39:39,829
be fulfilled that's a worldly attitude I

833
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:42,350
will be fulfilled by God alone by

834
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:44,480
realization alone by spirituality alone

835
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,540
and these are all these things will help

836
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:54,040
me the duty which we have in life is not

837
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,110
against spirituality when we think of it

838
00:39:57,110 --> 00:39:58,850
as duty that something that I have to do

839
00:39:58,850 --> 00:40:00,350
and finish it somehow then that will do

840
00:40:00,350 --> 00:40:02,330
I will do my spiritual practices then it

841
00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:06,650
becomes a terrible burden so I'm wearing

842
00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:09,560
on the coats the ashtavakra humanity

843
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,870
scorched by the midday Sun of duty not

844
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:16,160
that way not that way

845
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,120
work as a free agent this is in front of

846
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,580
me it's an opportunity to do something

847
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:24,530
it's an opportunity for spiritual

848
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:34,940
practice there was a goat yesterday a

849
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:39,410
devotee showed me a coat on our computer

850
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:41,480
different wonderful coats one of them

851
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,370
was from a Japanese Zen master Dogen and

852
00:40:45,370 --> 00:40:53,540
it says if if this if you think that the

853
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:56,510
self confirms ten thousand things you

854
00:40:56,510 --> 00:41:01,220
are in delusion but if you think 10,000

855
00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:03,380
things confirm the self you are

856
00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:07,490
enlightened now that person who showed

857
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:09,410
me she said hmm I think well I don't

858
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:11,720
know what that means really you know

859
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:13,220
what that means it's a very profound

860
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:16,190
truth ten thousand things means your

861
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:19,670
life everything in your life what you

862
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:21,800
see what you hear what you do what you

863
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,990
smell but you touch what you enjoy what

864
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:26,570
you suffer if you think that's what you

865
00:41:26,570 --> 00:41:29,510
are doing in life all of this you say

866
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:32,060
yes you are deal in delusion according

867
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:36,380
to Dogon if all of them point back to

868
00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:38,540
the spirit within you then you are

869
00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:42,590
enlightened if n thousand things point

870
00:41:42,590 --> 00:41:45,980
back to God within you so one way in up

871
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:49,070
in a bhakti wave in a karma yoga way if

872
00:41:49,070 --> 00:41:51,110
ten thousand things of your life is you

873
00:41:51,110 --> 00:41:53,870
can connect to God if God is the golden

874
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:56,170
thread running through all of that

875
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:59,300
then even if you are not enlightened you

876
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:01,880
are well on your way to enlightenment if

877
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,100
that does not appeal to you if you are

878
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,140
in personalistic by nature non-dualistic

879
00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:08,750
by nature then you say instable put the

880
00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:11,300
word God out of the equation I the pure

881
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:15,920
consciousness what you eat it it just is

882
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,480
something that is revealed to you in

883
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,400
your consciousness what you do is reveal

884
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,560
to you in your consciousness everything

885
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,630
that happens in life shines in your

886
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:26,600
awareness use that to become aware of

887
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,740
the awareness like you would use a

888
00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:33,320
mirror do you use a mirror to look at

889
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,030
the mirror or do you use the mirror to

890
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:39,020
look at your face when you are looking

891
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:40,280
at the mirror are you looking at the

892
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,090
glass usually not you're looking at the

893
00:42:44,090 --> 00:42:47,720
reflection similarly everything in the

894
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,390
life life is a mirror which reveals God

895
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:54,920
to you when you are looking at life and

896
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,950
sayd revealed life to me mostly unhappy

897
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:59,720
then you're looking at the glass in the

898
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:00,650
middle you're not looking at the

899
00:43:00,650 --> 00:43:05,720
reflection okay one more question from

900
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,560
the internet audience

901
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:16,550
good questions very Park I try to follow

902
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,410
the six steps you have taught in your

903
00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:20,930
dream to share difficult lectures there

904
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:23,599
I did some meditation in the morning but

905
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,440
when I try internal headspace meditation

906
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,330
external things come to me as input I

907
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:31,880
can close my eyes but can't for five

908
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,099
years so it's chair playing clock

909
00:43:34,099 --> 00:43:37,070
ticking come to my ears even though no

910
00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:39,290
thought is present or just as a doubt

911
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:41,630
expensive text is present about that

912
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:44,869
moment I feel that external and internal

913
00:43:44,869 --> 00:43:47,810
is getting mixed up for me as I

914
00:43:47,810 --> 00:43:49,940
understand this body mind they're

915
00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:52,640
nothing but a unit of some atoms has a

916
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,650
special capability through the witness

917
00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:57,230
consciousness that is enabling this

918
00:43:57,230 --> 00:44:01,010
piece of matter to hear see touch smell

919
00:44:01,010 --> 00:44:04,670
taste and think is it really possible to

920
00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:07,280
have the internal text-based meditation

921
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,490
my own breathing movement also comes as

922
00:44:10,490 --> 00:44:13,310
a distraction can you please let me know

923
00:44:13,310 --> 00:44:14,869
if I'm doing something wrong

924
00:44:14,869 --> 00:44:17,720
which I can correct very good question

925
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,480
very good question do you know what it

926
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,060
refers to in the text trig ratio Vivica

927
00:44:23,060 --> 00:44:25,130
towards the end there are six meditation

928
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:26,960
techniques and he's talking about the

929
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,670
first two of those meditation techniques

930
00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:30,320
what are the meditation techniques it's

931
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,420
a nice segue into this question from the

932
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:34,670
other earlier discussion you know the

933
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:37,280
ten thousand things in life what the

934
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,430
technique tells you is take any thought

935
00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:42,470
whatever comes to your mind if it's two

936
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:44,570
plus two is equal to four or AB Rose is

937
00:44:44,570 --> 00:44:45,980
a red flower that is thought comes to

938
00:44:45,980 --> 00:44:49,700
your mind instead of concentrating on

939
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:51,859
the thought become aware of the thought

940
00:44:51,859 --> 00:44:55,280
signing in your awareness when the

941
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,680
thought comes up instead of we get

942
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,900
engrossed in the thought and then we

943
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,580
jump from one thought to another but

944
00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:03,500
what the meditation technique tells you

945
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:05,390
is take the thought and immediately

946
00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:07,609
become aware of yourself as the witness

947
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:10,580
to that thought that's our sheet to

948
00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:13,430
annotate Onam become aware of yourself

949
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:16,190
as the witness of that start can you do

950
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:20,260
that it's subtle but not difficult now

951
00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:23,960
what he's saying is that the next step

952
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,700
after that when you become you're aware

953
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:26,360
of your

954
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,150
the witness to that sort is now you go

955
00:45:29,150 --> 00:45:31,220
to a text-based meditation which says a

956
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:34,160
Sango hum I am unattached I am an

957
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,410
attached means that witness which I am

958
00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:39,230
is unattached things come and go in its

959
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:42,980
light it is not they don't stick to it

960
00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:47,930
I am unattached dueto vegeto um I am

961
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:50,630
non-dual sub Prakash or hum I am

962
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:53,270
self-effulgent these are obvious facts

963
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:55,370
once you have got the witness clarity

964
00:45:55,370 --> 00:45:57,140
about the witness all these things will

965
00:45:57,140 --> 00:45:59,750
be obvious facts just you're repeating a

966
00:45:59,750 --> 00:46:03,220
fact to yourself now the problem which

967
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:06,380
this person has referred to is that

968
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:09,440
Swami when I think about a start if you

969
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,700
think about a thought right I am the

970
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:11,990
witness of the thought but then the

971
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:15,890
clock is ticking and then the and then

972
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:18,230
the birds are chirping and then it's hot

973
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:22,670
and then lot of other things come into

974
00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:24,920
my mind a thought might be very

975
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,870
difficult illusive to get hold of lots

976
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:28,310
of other things are crowding into my

977
00:46:28,310 --> 00:46:34,580
mind so what is the way out what do you

978
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:40,340
think correct absolutely the answer from

979
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:42,290
the gentleman was witness of everything

980
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:43,670
you are not just a witness of the

981
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:45,920
thought the thought is not important if

982
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,450
the clock is ticking wonderful wonderful

983
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:54,470
use it immediately the clock ticks when

984
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:57,620
it when it goes tick-tock if I am the

985
00:46:57,620 --> 00:47:00,170
witness of the tick-tock when the bird

986
00:47:00,170 --> 00:47:02,090
chops outside I am the witness of the

987
00:47:02,090 --> 00:47:04,010
chirping bird or the chirping of the

988
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:07,340
bird any movement anything that

989
00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:09,470
registers in your awareness is a mirror

990
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:10,550
to your awareness

991
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:13,960
it reflects you back to your awareness I

992
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,880
have known of persons who get into a

993
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,250
kind of internal intoxication just by

994
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:21,410
listening to the sound of a clock tick

995
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:27,260
ticking yes it's possible absolutely

996
00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:31,340
possible hours can pass because the

997
00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:32,840
ticking of a clock is a very powerful

998
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,710
device its rhythmic its monotonous every

999
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:39,740
tick point you back to the witness

1000
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:42,220
conscious

1001
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:45,200
and you tend to get absorbed there's no

1002
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,670
escape from the witness consciousness if

1003
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:48,110
you're listening to a ticking of a cough

1004
00:47:48,110 --> 00:47:53,330
of a clock if you see that well first of

1005
00:47:53,330 --> 00:47:54,530
all you have to understand what the

1006
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:55,880
witness consciousness is you have to

1007
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,220
have clarity about that that's one thing

1008
00:47:58,220 --> 00:48:00,230
that's why the dribbler Civic text is

1009
00:48:00,230 --> 00:48:03,230
there you see the Holy Mother she used

1010
00:48:03,230 --> 00:48:06,260
it in a different way she told one of

1011
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:09,890
the disciples that my child listen to

1012
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:12,500
the ticking of a clock repeat your

1013
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,380
mantra with that regularity with that

1014
00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:17,840
comes steadiness and regularity keep on

1015
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,550
repeating the mantra I'll tell you an

1016
00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:26,480
experience it was in the Himalayas we

1017
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,750
were studying ashtavakra very high text

1018
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:32,540
of non-dual Vedanta and the Swami was

1019
00:48:32,540 --> 00:48:34,640
teaching us there was a word naira

1020
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Marianna without break in the text he

1021
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,500
was teaching us a mere group of mostly

1022
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,990
group of monks some lived in huts some

1023
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:43,670
in caves and some had long beards

1024
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,890
somewhere shaven-headed mostly we were

1025
00:48:45,890 --> 00:48:48,650
very scruffy lot so we were all sitting

1026
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:51,440
around his feet and he was teaching us

1027
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,850
when he came to the word night hunt

1028
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:55,640
arena without break he closed the book

1029
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,280
and he looked at us and he said before

1030
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,720
the class I was thinking how do I

1031
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,210
explain this word and then in front in

1032
00:49:02,210 --> 00:49:04,700
front of him you have to see the Ganges

1033
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:08,450
is roaring past just in front about 40

1034
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:11,180
50 feet below its mountainous you

1035
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:13,940
understand the Ganges is roaring past

1036
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:16,780
he says immediately my eyes fell on that

1037
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:21,140
and I felt just like without break the

1038
00:49:21,140 --> 00:49:24,220
stream of water is roaring continuously

1039
00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:27,320
flowing fast in front without any break

1040
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,660
at all like that should be the thought

1041
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:31,580
should be the thought of the self should

1042
00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:33,950
be your establishment in the self in a

1043
00:49:33,950 --> 00:49:41,960
in a Advaita Vedanta chakra and that

1044
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,280
night a monk you know he went for

1045
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,550
meditation and he sat in meditation and

1046
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:51,380
he could not stop meditating throughout

1047
00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:52,850
the night because the roaring of the

1048
00:49:52,850 --> 00:49:53,990
Ganges mixed up

1049
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:56,390
that monks Hut that thought kept kept

1050
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:58,070
coming to him and because the rolling is

1051
00:49:58,070 --> 00:50:02,720
without break I couldn't stop it was so

1052
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:03,410
powerful

1053
00:50:03,410 --> 00:50:08,750
hour after hour passed you know six

1054
00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:10,660
hours seven hours

1055
00:50:10,660 --> 00:50:13,820
so that's without break anything in the

1056
00:50:13,820 --> 00:50:15,290
world especially like the ticking of a

1057
00:50:15,290 --> 00:50:17,090
clock or the flowing of water can be an

1058
00:50:17,090 --> 00:50:19,910
excellent reminder of your witness

1059
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:27,070
status a question from the audience here

1060
00:50:30,340 --> 00:50:32,750
you have to come forward and speak in

1061
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:39,110
the microphone now pass it and take up

1062
00:50:39,110 --> 00:50:47,840
the microphone please sit down because

1063
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,680
it's being recorded

1064
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,770
that's why okay please sit down sit okay

1065
00:50:51,770 --> 00:50:56,750
the question two questions before in the

1066
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:58,340
microphone I have two questions before

1067
00:50:58,340 --> 00:51:03,830
when we are talking about hi my I think

1068
00:51:03,830 --> 00:51:06,070
in course of meditation and prayer

1069
00:51:06,070 --> 00:51:09,470
subject and object pose disappear why

1070
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:12,530
cannot come when you meditate when you

1071
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:16,730
pray we didn't ask God to anything I or

1072
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:21,230
Who I am with just to subject and object

1073
00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:24,410
disappear automatically in course of

1074
00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:25,700
prayer and meditation

1075
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:29,540
I think another question people are

1076
00:51:29,540 --> 00:51:32,630
asking that is a excellent person I eat

1077
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:35,510
little bit bothers in my life giving any

1078
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:40,400
existing shellworld the sucio model

1079
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,510
vocabularies are so strong today even

1080
00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:50,840
you try to pray to God to in search of

1081
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:57,010
mystic mysticism touching the real

1082
00:51:57,010 --> 00:52:01,330
spirituality to go to real from unreal

1083
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:06,859
in that case exist tensional world they

1084
00:52:06,859 --> 00:52:07,759
are more aha

1085
00:52:07,759 --> 00:52:10,219
Pokhara very social immoral VUCA bernie

1086
00:52:10,219 --> 00:52:15,259
is so powerful and guided the way it is

1087
00:52:15,259 --> 00:52:18,949
hard people could understand us what we

1088
00:52:18,949 --> 00:52:21,969
are doing and what we are looking for on

1089
00:52:21,969 --> 00:52:25,699
plain view like you are a person he was

1090
00:52:25,699 --> 00:52:29,119
Swami ji we all know you are a spiritual

1091
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:32,599
seeker but I am an ordinary person okay

1092
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:35,509
and the moral vocable is using a soup

1093
00:52:35,509 --> 00:52:39,219
our food people mistreat me they think

1094
00:52:39,219 --> 00:52:42,529
they read mean wrongly that's why how

1095
00:52:42,529 --> 00:52:45,499
could we cross that boundary when you

1096
00:52:45,499 --> 00:52:48,649
are talking about God and we are in

1097
00:52:48,649 --> 00:52:50,899
search of mysticism that going from

1098
00:52:50,899 --> 00:52:54,229
unreal to real then that moral

1099
00:52:54,229 --> 00:52:56,929
vocabulary sociation I am I think I

1100
00:52:56,929 --> 00:52:59,869
understand the question yes the first

1101
00:52:59,869 --> 00:53:01,819
part about meditation and the subject

1102
00:53:01,819 --> 00:53:03,229
and the object disappearing I think that

1103
00:53:03,229 --> 00:53:04,699
was more of a comment there was not

1104
00:53:04,699 --> 00:53:06,439
there wasn't a question there that's

1105
00:53:06,439 --> 00:53:09,049
very good and the second thing is about

1106
00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:11,299
other people misunderstanding spiritual

1107
00:53:11,299 --> 00:53:14,569
seekers one thing is that unless a

1108
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:16,869
person is a secret to some extent it's

1109
00:53:16,869 --> 00:53:19,759
no use talking about these things to to

1110
00:53:19,759 --> 00:53:20,679
such a person

1111
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,719
so person it will not be real to that

1112
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,729
person but then the truth is that people

1113
00:53:25,729 --> 00:53:28,939
are seekers there are so many people who

1114
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:32,479
are seekers and if you want to

1115
00:53:32,479 --> 00:53:34,969
communicate with them if there is even a

1116
00:53:34,969 --> 00:53:37,579
little bit of genuine questioning you

1117
00:53:37,579 --> 00:53:40,099
have to understand the vocabulary you

1118
00:53:40,099 --> 00:53:42,259
will be rightly pointed out the

1119
00:53:42,259 --> 00:53:44,929
vocabulary is important you have to

1120
00:53:44,929 --> 00:53:46,729
understand what are the terms that

1121
00:53:46,729 --> 00:53:49,399
person is using and on what terms you

1122
00:53:49,399 --> 00:53:53,179
can relate to that person so yes a

1123
00:53:53,179 --> 00:53:55,039
little bit of adjustment you have to do

1124
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:57,380
but it only works with a person who is

1125
00:53:57,380 --> 00:53:58,999
interested the person is not interested

1126
00:53:58,999 --> 00:54:02,619
and then then we are also not interested

1127
00:54:02,619 --> 00:54:08,509
Vedanta is very patient if you are not

1128
00:54:08,509 --> 00:54:11,779
interested we say fine go and do the

1129
00:54:11,779 --> 00:54:13,099
thing there must be something you are

1130
00:54:13,099 --> 00:54:15,769
interested in the world so go and do it

1131
00:54:15,769 --> 00:54:19,130
pursue it and we will wait this life

1132
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:21,290
next life life after that many

1133
00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:24,890
licensed there is no hurry so I mean we

1134
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:26,180
reckon this language he says take your

1135
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:29,120
time there is no hurry even here is half

1136
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,990
serious when you said that I'll write a

1137
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:35,810
question from the internet audience this

1138
00:54:35,810 --> 00:54:38,570
is from Arvind who is in Brisbane

1139
00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:42,620
Australia in one of your talks recently

1140
00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:44,690
you mentioned your discussion with the

1141
00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:48,380
book in one of your talks recently you

1142
00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:49,970
mentioned your discussion with the

1143
00:54:49,970 --> 00:54:52,280
Buddhist monks at a conference where the

1144
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
monks went into went into a huddle

1145
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,010
after you invoked neti neti I have a

1146
00:54:58,010 --> 00:54:59,210
question about the nature of

1147
00:54:59,210 --> 00:55:01,010
consciousness in the two schools of

1148
00:55:01,010 --> 00:55:03,470
thought from what I have gleaned from

1149
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:05,630
listening to your talks it seems in the

1150
00:55:05,630 --> 00:55:08,270
Vedanta school consciousness is primary

1151
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:10,850
with the attributes of sat-chit-ananda

1152
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:13,430
in some of your talks you have mentioned

1153
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:15,680
that the mind borrows this consciousness

1154
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,780
much like the moon borrows its light

1155
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:20,750
from the Sun on the other hand my

1156
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:22,880
understanding of the Buddhist school is

1157
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,340
that they have developed the idea of an

1158
00:55:25,340 --> 00:55:26,600
Atman no self

1159
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,660
thus the Buddhist school says Juniata is

1160
00:55:29,660 --> 00:55:32,240
primary if my understanding is correct

1161
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,000
then in such a case consciousness is not

1162
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,430
primary and must be generated or

1163
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:41,210
developed somehow from Shunyata that is

1164
00:55:41,210 --> 00:55:44,600
my question how does consciousness arise

1165
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,180
or form from shoonya in the Buddhist

1166
00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:49,700
view maybe you can give a short answer

1167
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:51,920
to this question or if you could point

1168
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,920
me to some books that I can read I read

1169
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,810
always my favorite question the contrast

1170
00:55:59,810 --> 00:56:03,320
between the Hindu schools of thinking

1171
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,350
and Buddhist schools let me set out the

1172
00:56:06,350 --> 00:56:08,150
contrast first before attempting to

1173
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:11,630
resolve it the dualistic schools of

1174
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:15,410
Hindu thought by which I mean for

1175
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:16,610
example the Naya

1176
00:56:16,610 --> 00:56:19,130
the vaisheshika the Sankhya the yoga

1177
00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:22,010
these schools of Hindu thought they

1178
00:56:22,010 --> 00:56:24,470
claim that in addition to the physical

1179
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:27,440
bodies Tula sharira we have a subtle

1180
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,870
body suksham sharir and that is not

1181
00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:31,550
subject it's not a matter of belief the

1182
00:56:31,550 --> 00:56:33,260
experience at all the time we experience

1183
00:56:33,260 --> 00:56:34,850
life and thought

1184
00:56:34,850 --> 00:56:36,350
and memories all the time we are

1185
00:56:36,350 --> 00:56:37,880
experiencing it that which you are

1186
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,210
experiencing as a first person private

1187
00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:43,220
experience within yourself that's the

1188
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:45,710
subtle body so we have a subtle body

1189
00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:46,940
suksham sharir

1190
00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:51,530
and in addition to that we have the

1191
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:56,120
Atman the self self with the capitalist

1192
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,970
the physical body dies at death the

1193
00:56:58,970 --> 00:57:00,890
subtle body goes on for life after life

1194
00:57:00,890 --> 00:57:03,140
but when you are enlightened the subtle

1195
00:57:03,140 --> 00:57:05,450
body also falls off and you realize you

1196
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:09,740
are the unchanging Atman so physical

1197
00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:14,660
body subtle body Atman the self now

1198
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:16,990
along comes the Buddhist and says

1199
00:57:16,990 --> 00:57:19,190
physical body in subtle body are matters

1200
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:21,080
of experience where is this precious

1201
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,610
Atman of yours physical body series of

1202
00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:28,640
changes subtle body mind and

1203
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,290
intellectual memory another series of

1204
00:57:30,290 --> 00:57:34,600
changes beyond this what else exists

1205
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,730
everything is Emperor Li transient

1206
00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:39,830
everything is momentary everything is

1207
00:57:39,830 --> 00:57:42,710
empty the word which he used Shunyata

1208
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:47,090
emptiness and they are they have their

1209
00:57:47,090 --> 00:57:49,040
self nature empty of self nature that

1210
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,440
means there is no inherent unchanging

1211
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,470
nature to anything that was the Buddhist

1212
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:56,210
insight and it's a very powerful

1213
00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:59,390
challenge a very powerful challenge in

1214
00:57:59,390 --> 00:58:01,280
the book that said aletheia manikyam

1215
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,980
saruba manikyam temporary a transient

1216
00:58:03,980 --> 00:58:06,020
transient everything is transient

1217
00:58:06,020 --> 00:58:10,280
everything goes away Shani come Shani

1218
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,930
come serve oh honey come not only that

1219
00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:14,150
everything goes away you see everything

1220
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:16,190
goes everything Nobi everybody dies and

1221
00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:17,750
they also will have to die that does not

1222
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:19,580
really bother us as long as it

1223
00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:21,770
everything stays for just enough for my

1224
00:58:21,770 --> 00:58:25,550
team my purpose if the house lid is kind

1225
00:58:25,550 --> 00:58:27,680
stays steady for 50 years or 100 years

1226
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,410
it's good for me I'm going to use it for

1227
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:32,270
50 years or hundred years after that

1228
00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:35,330
doesn't matter if the body lives for 30

1229
00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:38,000
40 50 60 or 80 years good enough for me

1230
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,120
because I'll do whatever I can in that

1231
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,600
period of time if the cookie melts in my

1232
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,700
mouth and is gone in 10 seconds that's

1233
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:48,020
also good enough for me because I can

1234
00:58:48,020 --> 00:58:48,710
taste it in the

1235
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:51,829
ten seconds so temporary is okay with us

1236
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:54,309
we really don't mind temporary

1237
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:56,569
impermanent we don't mind but Buddha

1238
00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:58,910
goes on further spoilsport that he is he

1239
00:58:58,910 --> 00:59:00,859
says Shani come Shani come not only

1240
00:59:00,859 --> 00:59:03,920
temporary momentary momentary everything

1241
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,869
changes from moment to moment it does

1242
00:59:05,869 --> 00:59:07,910
not stay steady for let alone for

1243
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:09,589
decades and centuries it does not stay

1244
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:11,829
steady from one second to the next

1245
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:14,750
let me sound like a startling claim from

1246
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:17,119
our common sense point of view but as we

1247
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,250
go on modern science is more and more as

1248
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:22,369
shown that everything is a whirling mass

1249
00:59:22,369 --> 00:59:25,550
of particles the whirling mass of change

1250
00:59:25,550 --> 00:59:28,400
continuously all around us this from our

1251
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,260
perspective something seemed more steady

1252
00:59:30,260 --> 00:59:33,319
than others Shani kamsani comes sarvam

1253
00:59:33,319 --> 00:59:36,619
Shani come and hence unum chungnam

1254
00:59:36,619 --> 00:59:39,680
sarvam shown 'i'm wide void all is void

1255
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,990
and then finally do come to come serve

1256
00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:47,960
them to come hence because because it is

1257
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,210
transient because it is momentary

1258
00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:53,119
because it is wide everything is of the

1259
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:56,990
nature of dukkha suffering if you feel

1260
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:58,490
the suffering you're feeling the reality

1261
00:59:58,490 --> 01:00:00,290
if you feel pleasure and happiness you

1262
01:00:00,290 --> 01:00:03,140
are deluded because they were suffering

1263
01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:04,910
before it there is suffering at the end

1264
01:00:04,910 --> 01:00:06,589
of it and they're suffering underneath

1265
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:07,720
it

1266
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:13,180
any joy that we have so real spoilsport

1267
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,920
the Buddha well hard truth now in this

1268
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,540
mass of change where is this permanent

1269
01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:22,160
Atman you are speaking about

1270
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,319
so the Buddhist launches a two-pronged

1271
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:26,690
attacks one is on your permanent solemn

1272
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:28,849
the your immortal soul is no such things

1273
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:32,200
about the faith and the second one is we

1274
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,140
the partner to your immortal soul the

1275
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:40,880
poor God an immortal God unchanging

1276
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,980
reality calls God dude this lunch is an

1277
01:00:42,980 --> 01:00:44,780
attack on that - where is this card you

1278
01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:46,490
speak about both are equally are

1279
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:51,500
impossibilities an immortal God sitting

1280
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:54,760
somewhere way up in heaven where and

1281
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,559
your own immortal soul you speak about

1282
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:01,670
Atman where you can't prove it

1283
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:04,910
and thus began a thousand-year battle

1284
01:01:04,910 --> 01:01:07,910
between literally a thousand years from

1285
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:10,520
around 2005 little after the Buddha ban

1286
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,930
the philosophical schools of Buddhism

1287
01:01:11,930 --> 01:01:15,130
began to grow strong till the

1288
01:01:15,130 --> 01:01:17,150
disappearance of Buddhism from India

1289
01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:20,540
around 800 900 AD so for more than a

1290
01:01:20,540 --> 01:01:22,670
thousand years there was a philosophical

1291
01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:25,280
debate a battle between the Hindu

1292
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,290
schools and the Buddhist schools and was

1293
01:01:27,290 --> 01:01:29,240
good because it led to a flowering of

1294
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,089
philosophy very sophisticated philosophy

1295
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:35,599
developed over a thousand years and you

1296
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:38,119
have gotten text after text the Hindus

1297
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:41,059
trying to defend the immortal soul Atman

1298
01:01:41,059 --> 01:01:43,880
defend the existence of God and the

1299
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,329
Buddhists attacking both the great Hindu

1300
01:01:47,329 --> 01:01:50,450
logician Judean Acharya around 10th

1301
01:01:50,450 --> 01:01:52,790
century AD there is the famous story of

1302
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:54,530
how he goes to he fought against the

1303
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:56,660
Buddhists yet he has two classic books

1304
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:58,490
we just still studied one is called

1305
01:01:58,490 --> 01:02:01,190
osmoter 12-acre where he tries to prove

1306
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:03,109
with extremely subtle reasoning that

1307
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:04,900
there must be a permanent unchanging

1308
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:06,799
consciousness at the back of everything

1309
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,450
changing otherwise this life is not

1310
01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:11,650
possible it tries to explain that and

1311
01:02:11,650 --> 01:02:13,910
then the second book is nee Aiko

1312
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:16,609
Samantha Lee where he gives 9 proofs for

1313
01:02:16,609 --> 01:02:19,130
the existence of Ishwara of God against

1314
01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:21,200
the Buddhist opponent so this kind of a

1315
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,990
great logician you know he goes to the

1316
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:25,940
story that he goes to jagannatha temple

1317
01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:29,599
in puri and for duction for the for the

1318
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:32,270
darshan of lord jagannatha and at that

1319
01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:34,089
time the doors are closed because

1320
01:02:34,089 --> 01:02:36,680
offering is going on the Bogue offering

1321
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,940
to the lord is going on the doors are

1322
01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:40,210
closed so there is a very funny Sanskrit

1323
01:02:40,210 --> 01:02:43,520
shloka attributed to Odin Acharya

1324
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,960
it seems he composed it when he saw the

1325
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:50,329
doors closed he said my lord now you are

1326
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:52,670
so proud and you shut your doors to me

1327
01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:54,770
but when the Buddhists come and attack

1328
01:02:54,770 --> 01:02:56,780
you and try to disprove your existence

1329
01:02:56,780 --> 01:02:59,799
you run to me for proving your existence

1330
01:02:59,799 --> 01:03:02,630
now you won't let me go in and I know I

1331
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:04,069
have your audience in houses when

1332
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:06,740
wealthier but you are helplessly

1333
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:08,240
dependent upon me to prove your

1334
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,589
existence in the book this comes from

1335
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:12,920
ataxia anyhow humor apart this was the

1336
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,850
situation now

1337
01:03:14,850 --> 01:03:17,480
now what does a joy to bring to the mix

1338
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,070
swami vivekananda you wanted a text

1339
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:22,950
swami vivekananda practical vedanta

1340
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:25,410
lecture number 4 where he takes up the

1341
01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:27,270
Buddhist position the Hindu duelist

1342
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:29,370
position and reconciles it with the

1343
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:32,160
Advaita Nandu listen there's a lot more

1344
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,330
to be said about this but I'll mention

1345
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:34,140
just this

1346
01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:37,470
what does swami very kind of say look at

1347
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:39,360
the classic example of the snake and the

1348
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,770
rope it is not that there is a rope and

1349
01:03:43,770 --> 01:03:46,080
on top of that there is a snake that you

1350
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,550
drive the snake up and then you get the

1351
01:03:47,550 --> 01:03:50,370
rope no these are not two different

1352
01:03:50,370 --> 01:03:53,700
things a rope and a snake the rope is

1353
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:57,930
mistaken as the snake what you think is

1354
01:03:57,930 --> 01:04:01,050
the snake is the rope itself mistakenly

1355
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:04,670
snake taken for what it is rope in

1356
01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:09,110
ignorance snake in knowledge rope

1357
01:04:09,110 --> 01:04:11,670
similarly he says both the Buddhist and

1358
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:14,400
Hindu dwellest are right the Hindu

1359
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,020
dwellest is right when he says there is

1360
01:04:16,020 --> 01:04:18,000
an immortal reality called the soul or

1361
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,970
God or whatever it is and the Buddhist

1362
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:23,370
is right when he says that there is

1363
01:04:23,370 --> 01:04:27,180
nothing apart from this which you call

1364
01:04:27,180 --> 01:04:31,680
God or so it is the same thing which you

1365
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,320
regard in ignorance as a mass mass of

1366
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,510
whirling change which we see as this

1367
01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:39,960
world and in knowledge you will find all

1368
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,530
of this is nothing other than Perlman

1369
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:46,140
it's not that there is a soul and there

1370
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:48,020
is a body mind and universe separately

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01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:51,350
Advaita says there is only one thing in

1372
01:04:51,350 --> 01:04:54,090
ignorance it is regarded as world as

1373
01:04:54,090 --> 01:04:58,050
body as mind as Jeeva in individual g1j

1374
01:04:58,050 --> 01:05:01,170
gap in knowledge when you get brahma

1375
01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:04,020
jana this very Jeeva jagat becomes none

1376
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:06,540
other than brahman for you you that's

1377
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:08,760
why enlightened persons will keep on

1378
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,130
saying I see God everywhere what does

1379
01:05:11,130 --> 01:05:14,130
that mean the person does not say I see

1380
01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:17,520
the world and I see God in heaven which

1381
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,000
way something says that nobody they all

1382
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,610
say I see God everywhere which means

1383
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:26,280
where everywhere means were here he

1384
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,740
might as well say I see the Rope in

1385
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:31,500
the snake he never says I see a rope and

1386
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:35,850
a snake no it is what you considered to

1387
01:05:35,850 --> 01:05:39,750
be the snake the person who knows he

1388
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:42,690
says it's a rope it's what we considered

1389
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:44,970
to be a mass a changing mass a physical

1390
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:47,640
massive change called the body mental

1391
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,430
massive change called the mind known in

1392
01:05:50,430 --> 01:05:52,530
reality it is nothing other than such

1393
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:57,180
hidden under so this is how Vivekananda

1394
01:05:57,180 --> 01:06:00,510
reconciles it now is it accepted no

1395
01:06:00,510 --> 01:06:02,760
there are scholars who accept it there

1396
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,590
are scholars who do not on both on the

1397
01:06:04,590 --> 01:06:06,540
Vedantic side and on the Buddhist side

1398
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:09,360
there are scholars and monks and

1399
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,470
teachers who will not agree that the two

1400
01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:16,200
are ultimately the same I remember

1401
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,070
speaking to a Buddhist Lama in Delhi

1402
01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:22,440
Universe in Delhi University there was a

1403
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,380
seminar the Lama spoke I also spoke and

1404
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:29,040
afterwards a person in the audience a

1405
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,990
lady said to the Lama holy Lama what the

1406
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:35,820
Swami was saying and what you say they

1407
01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:39,330
seem to be very similar this is the

1408
01:06:39,330 --> 01:06:40,650
problem with the Hindu mind they

1409
01:06:40,650 --> 01:06:42,390
immediately find the oneness behind

1410
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:45,510
everything they don't stress the

1411
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:48,830
differences they stress the unity so

1412
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:52,680
they are did he seem to is very similar

1413
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,820
what you are saying and the what the

1414
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:55,650
Swami is saying I was I spoke from the

1415
01:06:55,650 --> 01:06:58,020
Advaita perspective and he spoke from

1416
01:06:58,020 --> 01:07:01,170
the Tibetan Buddhist perspective and so

1417
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:03,450
the Lama he smiled and he said no

1418
01:07:03,450 --> 01:07:05,730
actually they are different you know

1419
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:08,070
there are a lot of differences and I

1420
01:07:08,070 --> 01:07:10,500
stepped in doing the Hindu thing saying

1421
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:12,540
yes there are differences but there are

1422
01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:14,180
different paths they lead to the same

1423
01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:17,100
conclusion you know and then the

1424
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,140
Buddhist not to be outdone the Lama said

1425
01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:21,690
yes he has a meeting point but after

1426
01:07:21,690 --> 01:07:22,620
that again different

1427
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:28,349
[Laughter]

1428
01:07:28,349 --> 01:07:30,939
so there are people on both sides who

1429
01:07:30,939 --> 01:07:34,329
would not agree but there are scholars

1430
01:07:34,329 --> 01:07:37,390
who do agree if you read a book called

1431
01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:41,400
the central philosophy of Buddhism

1432
01:07:41,819 --> 01:07:44,859
central philosophy Abood ISM TR we move

1433
01:07:44,859 --> 01:07:48,219
T you will see Tibetan Buddhism Mahayana

1434
01:07:48,219 --> 01:07:51,219
Magna Hakka Buddhism of Nagarjuna it's

1435
01:07:51,219 --> 01:07:54,309
explained in in terms which are very

1436
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:57,789
Advaitic non-dualistic I've also had

1437
01:07:57,789 --> 01:07:59,619
occasion to mention Sam Harris was a

1438
01:07:59,619 --> 01:08:02,109
very popular 80's speaker here in the

1439
01:08:02,109 --> 01:08:02,799
United States

1440
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:05,559
and he says religion is mostly hypocrisy

1441
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:08,859
and nonsense superstition but he says

1442
01:08:08,859 --> 01:08:11,439
there are these two traditions one is a

1443
01:08:11,439 --> 01:08:13,299
great of a dontoh and the other one is

1444
01:08:13,299 --> 01:08:16,540
Tibetans of chain Buddhism which have a

1445
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:18,549
core of truth in them and it's the same

1446
01:08:18,549 --> 01:08:21,960
truth both are both are speaking about

1447
01:08:22,349 --> 01:08:26,250
there is a professor of religion a

1448
01:08:26,250 --> 01:08:29,649
philosopher actually in Australia a lady

1449
01:08:29,649 --> 01:08:33,549
Miri albahari and I find in her work she

1450
01:08:33,549 --> 01:08:35,349
is primarily a scholar of Buddhism and

1451
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:38,889
and the way she interprets Mahayana

1452
01:08:38,889 --> 01:08:40,719
Buddhism especially Magda McCarthyism of

1453
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:43,420
Nagarjuna is very close to Advaita

1454
01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:46,448
Vedanta Shankara and she she mentions it

1455
01:08:46,448 --> 01:08:48,639
explicitly they too are very close why I

1456
01:08:48,639 --> 01:08:50,828
mention her is that she is coming to

1457
01:08:50,828 --> 01:08:52,479
give this talk about advaitha Vedanta

1458
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,729
and the problem of consciousness in NYU

1459
01:08:54,729 --> 01:08:58,750
next year and I have invited her to come

1460
01:08:58,750 --> 01:09:01,089
and speak here to us so I really hope

1461
01:09:01,089 --> 01:09:03,339
she does come and speak to us but she

1462
01:09:03,339 --> 01:09:08,049
speaks about exactly this problem yes we

1463
01:09:08,049 --> 01:09:09,578
have run out of time you must tell me

1464
01:09:09,578 --> 01:09:12,460
when the food is reused let me know yes

1465
01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:15,790
so there is a question from the yes

1466
01:09:15,790 --> 01:09:18,158
please come and somebody else raised the

1467
01:09:18,158 --> 01:09:21,939
hand there yes I'll come back to you yes

1468
01:09:21,939 --> 01:09:23,319
there's a mic please tell us your name

1469
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,948
and please sit

1470
01:09:25,948 --> 01:09:30,790
my name is Sri and just I guess talking

1471
01:09:30,790 --> 01:09:33,549
about Buddhism I'm thinking of this

1472
01:09:33,549 --> 01:09:35,799
concept of compassion that the modern

1473
01:09:35,799 --> 01:09:38,180
Buddhists are talking a lot about now

1474
01:09:38,180 --> 01:09:40,609
and and with this I'm asking a very

1475
01:09:40,609 --> 01:09:42,890
personal question but I think it

1476
01:09:42,890 --> 01:09:44,660
probably affects a lot of people from

1477
01:09:44,660 --> 01:09:47,750
time to time so you know we try to have

1478
01:09:47,750 --> 01:09:49,340
compassion and we try to have empathy

1479
01:09:49,340 --> 01:09:51,620
and sometimes we think we're doing great

1480
01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:54,470
you know we're around a grieving parent

1481
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:56,240
and we can feel everything that they're

1482
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,730
feeling and you know I guess we must

1483
01:09:58,730 --> 01:10:01,190
well I must have been tapping myself on

1484
01:10:01,190 --> 01:10:04,610
the shoulder because the next I meet

1485
01:10:04,610 --> 01:10:08,000
someone else and they're grieving and I

1486
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,360
seem to have zero compassion to have

1487
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,740
judgment and then I continue to sort of

1488
01:10:15,740 --> 01:10:19,010
beat myself up over not being able to

1489
01:10:19,010 --> 01:10:25,220
muster any compassion so then do I just

1490
01:10:25,220 --> 01:10:27,980
give up and wait for grace or do I keep

1491
01:10:27,980 --> 01:10:32,810
working at it that's my question you see

1492
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:35,450
this is a problem that's inevitable as

1493
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:38,650
long as we regard ourselves as

1494
01:10:38,650 --> 01:10:41,750
individual points of consciousness that

1495
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:43,580
I am an individual among many

1496
01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:45,500
individuals and what kind of an

1497
01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:48,020
individual am i I'm a body and mind with

1498
01:10:48,020 --> 01:10:49,910
consciousness I am a body and mind with

1499
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:52,400
consciousness then what becomes primary

1500
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,440
is body and mind and the way I relate to

1501
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:57,650
others as body minds now what will

1502
01:10:57,650 --> 01:11:00,830
happen is I like some of them some of

1503
01:11:00,830 --> 01:11:03,050
those body Minds I like them some of

1504
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:06,020
those body Minds I don't like them those

1505
01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:08,330
who might like is easy for me to have

1506
01:11:08,330 --> 01:11:10,310
compassion and love for them those who I

1507
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:13,310
do not like it's not easy for me to have

1508
01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:14,780
any kind of compassion for them and yet

1509
01:11:14,780 --> 01:11:16,070
I am told to have compassion for

1510
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:18,920
everybody look at the language have

1511
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,490
compassion for everybody the moment you

1512
01:11:22,490 --> 01:11:24,590
say everybody then there must be

1513
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:27,290
something same that you see in everybody

1514
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:28,760
so that you can have the same compassion

1515
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,540
for everybody

1516
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:33,110
do you follow then what is the same

1517
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:36,230
thing in everybody at all times and at

1518
01:11:36,230 --> 01:11:39,290
all places there is only one reality

1519
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:42,350
which runs through all of us base

1520
01:11:42,350 --> 01:11:44,360
yourself on the vedantic reality that

1521
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,950
you are such chit Ananda you are none

1522
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:51,090
other than God and then

1523
01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:54,390
therefore everybody that you meet even

1524
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:55,980
whether you like the body-mind or you do

1525
01:11:55,980 --> 01:11:58,260
not like the body might everybody you

1526
01:11:58,260 --> 01:12:00,690
meet the background is the same such

1527
01:12:00,690 --> 01:12:02,960
chit Ananda

1528
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,140
when that's no longer theory when that

1529
01:12:06,140 --> 01:12:09,750
begins to become reality to you then you

1530
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:11,430
will find having compassion for

1531
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:14,610
everybody becomes automatic love will

1532
01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:16,140
become automatic compassion will become

1533
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:18,240
automatic judgment may still come up the

1534
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,250
mindedness it has a way of judging but

1535
01:12:20,250 --> 01:12:21,900
your judgement you can dismiss easily

1536
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:24,180
because you know beyond whatever you

1537
01:12:24,180 --> 01:12:26,340
judge judge a person to be good judge a

1538
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:28,170
person to be bad you make up your mind

1539
01:12:28,170 --> 01:12:35,640
this person is bad a bad body mind but

1540
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,100
at the same time you will know that sub

1541
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,110
that's absolutely on the surface it's

1542
01:12:40,110 --> 01:12:40,830
superficial

1543
01:12:40,830 --> 01:12:42,570
the reality is existence consciousness

1544
01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:45,480
place is the one unchanging reality in

1545
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:49,980
me in you in him and in her that's the

1546
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:54,150
real basis for compassion change your

1547
01:12:54,150 --> 01:12:56,250
concept about yourself I am NOT this

1548
01:12:56,250 --> 01:12:58,800
person body mind culture II Sri is

1549
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,310
really the existence consciousness bliss

1550
01:13:01,310 --> 01:13:03,870
appearing at the body mind here then you

1551
01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:05,250
will see that everybody else else

1552
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:08,190
changes automatically for you and then

1553
01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:10,230
the problem of compassion problem of

1554
01:13:10,230 --> 01:13:12,060
love the problem of hatred it will

1555
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:14,160
disappear it will become spontaneous

1556
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,560
love will become spontaneous compassion

1557
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,050
will become spontaneous if by automatic

1558
01:13:19,050 --> 01:13:21,540
reaction hatred or irritation comes you

1559
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:24,060
will be more and more able to dismiss it

1560
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:27,120
easily okay I'll take one last question

1561
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,610
from the lady there could you come up

1562
01:13:29,610 --> 01:13:32,450
and ask the question

1563
01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:47,560
come to the mic here last question I

1564
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,660
hear the food is ready so we will make

1565
01:13:50,660 --> 01:13:53,060
this the last question there's the

1566
01:13:53,060 --> 01:14:00,320
microphone my name is Pat this is a

1567
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,590
somewhat confused question so I

1568
01:14:02,590 --> 01:14:06,140
apologize to all hungry people in the

1569
01:14:06,140 --> 01:14:10,340
microphone and a Zen master was asked

1570
01:14:10,340 --> 01:14:15,080
and said to me I asked what is Buddha

1571
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:20,450
mind and he said non holdin now we come

1572
01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:24,860
to Vedanta and God the Buddhist ideas of

1573
01:14:24,860 --> 01:14:29,350
continuous motion voidness motion

1574
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:34,970
nothing held but the Vedantic idea I

1575
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:40,900
picked is you must not confuse prana

1576
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:45,860
with God who does not move but my

1577
01:14:45,860 --> 01:14:49,880
problem in meditation is how do you get

1578
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,260
from this for my infatuation electric

1579
01:14:54,260 --> 01:15:00,370
Arana with prana to the non-moving state

1580
01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:04,280
right it's not at all a confused

1581
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,900
question it's a very good question and

1582
01:15:05,900 --> 01:15:07,970
very precisely put in most of

1583
01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:14,900
identically put so yes non holding is

1584
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:18,080
the essence of the Buddha mind and it

1585
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,750
applies very equally to the Vedantic

1586
01:15:20,750 --> 01:15:25,340
mind also anything objective that you

1587
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:30,140
hold on to as yourself I am this holding

1588
01:15:30,140 --> 01:15:32,240
on to a changing body it's continuous

1589
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,860
change what am I when I say I am this

1590
01:15:33,860 --> 01:15:38,320
body I am prana if I hold on to that

1591
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,390
continuously flowing in and out like the

1592
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:43,490
bellows pumping in and out air flowing

1593
01:15:43,490 --> 01:15:45,830
in and through me life forces coursing

1594
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:47,780
through me continuously changing like

1595
01:15:47,780 --> 01:15:50,930
the ebb and flow of a tide prana courses

1596
01:15:50,930 --> 01:15:51,440
through me

1597
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:54,520
what watches the

1598
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,370
when you say I am breathing in I am

1599
01:15:58,370 --> 01:16:00,440
aware of breathing in I am breathing out

1600
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:02,930
I am aware of breathing out what it is

1601
01:16:02,930 --> 01:16:04,850
it that is aware of the breathing in and

1602
01:16:04,850 --> 01:16:06,050
breathing out the breathing in and

1603
01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:08,650
breathing out are the movements of Karla

1604
01:16:08,650 --> 01:16:11,690
what is it that is aware of the

1605
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:13,730
breathing in and breathing out that is

1606
01:16:13,730 --> 01:16:16,969
not moving in and out that is aware of

1607
01:16:16,969 --> 01:16:19,040
the movement of the product is it moving

1608
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,250
itself no if you come to the site II do

1609
01:16:22,250 --> 01:16:25,580
finish it you ask the question what am i

1610
01:16:25,580 --> 01:16:28,130
you start with the body you clearly see

1611
01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:29,780
that you cannot be the body for certain

1612
01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:32,810
reasons it's external to you I feel I'm

1613
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:35,030
inside this and is an object this is

1614
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:37,130
something external to me it is changing

1615
01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:40,640
and I am unchanging it is an object of

1616
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,350
my experience I am the subject of

1617
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:44,239
experience for certain reasons I cannot

1618
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:46,940
be the body for exactly the same reasons

1619
01:16:46,940 --> 01:16:48,920
I cannot be the product you're not

1620
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,050
denying that the prana is there let the

1621
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:53,090
prana move in and out if got to keep on

1622
01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:55,340
breathing yes until you're enlightened

1623
01:16:55,340 --> 01:16:56,570
you have to go to creep keep on

1624
01:16:56,570 --> 01:17:01,430
breathing so yes and then the mind the

1625
01:17:01,430 --> 01:17:04,400
mind moves continuously look deeper

1626
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,910
within the prana thoughts ideas come but

1627
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:09,260
you are aware of the movement of the

1628
01:17:09,260 --> 01:17:12,980
mind is it not and then the intellect

1629
01:17:12,980 --> 01:17:14,570
even that which you are using to

1630
01:17:14,570 --> 01:17:16,489
understand all of this you're aware of

1631
01:17:16,489 --> 01:17:18,830
the movement of the intellect anything

1632
01:17:18,830 --> 01:17:22,330
that you are aware of is not the Atman

1633
01:17:22,330 --> 01:17:27,650
and in the microphone yes it's not

1634
01:17:27,650 --> 01:17:30,380
thought so much but when I meditate I

1635
01:17:30,380 --> 01:17:32,949
feel this incredible seething energy

1636
01:17:32,949 --> 01:17:37,480
which is very nice to feel but I can't

1637
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:40,400
get beyond them it's it's like the

1638
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,320
energies all right is there and very

1639
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,440
pleasurable but but you said look at the

1640
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:48,770
words you used I feel this incredible

1641
01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:49,400
energy

1642
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,489
it feels pleasurable yes

1643
01:17:52,489 --> 01:17:56,960
I feel this energy what fees that's

1644
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,680
right but how do I get beyond to join

1645
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,110
the feeling you don't have to start

1646
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:08,290
this way this way the moment followed is

1647
01:18:08,290 --> 01:18:12,060
carefully the moment you recognize that

1648
01:18:12,060 --> 01:18:15,639
there is something that is aware of the

1649
01:18:15,639 --> 01:18:18,159
surging of this energy within me what

1650
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:20,139
you're asking is how do I stop the

1651
01:18:20,139 --> 01:18:22,150
energies from surging or how do I get

1652
01:18:22,150 --> 01:18:23,710
beyond the feeling of pleasure of in

1653
01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:26,920
reveling in that energy the Vedanta

1654
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,830
cancels you don't have to all that you

1655
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:33,310
need to notice is that someone something

1656
01:18:33,310 --> 01:18:36,250
here is aware of that energy just notice

1657
01:18:36,250 --> 01:18:38,440
that let the energy be there let it see

1658
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:40,530
it within you let it course within you

1659
01:18:40,530 --> 01:18:42,070
let your mind

1660
01:18:42,070 --> 01:18:44,080
enjoy that energy - if you cannot sit

1661
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,639
for long for meditation you feel so

1662
01:18:45,639 --> 01:18:47,560
energy to get to get up and walk get up

1663
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,800
and walk the Atman is not disturbed all

1664
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,320
you need to notice it that it relieves

1665
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,020
that surging energy that feeling reveals

1666
01:18:56,020 --> 01:18:58,619
the ever-present awareness within you if

1667
01:18:58,619 --> 01:19:01,270
one day do not feel that energy

1668
01:19:01,270 --> 01:19:04,420
if you tired or quiet it is the same

1669
01:19:04,420 --> 01:19:06,820
awareness which notice that energy the

1670
01:19:06,820 --> 01:19:09,670
same awareness which notices the lack or

1671
01:19:09,670 --> 01:19:12,730
diminishing of that energy that is what

1672
01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:16,270
you are let the play of prana go on why

1673
01:19:16,270 --> 01:19:20,320
if i disturb it let it go on the body

1674
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,679
the prana the mind these are creations

1675
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:27,520
of Ishwara of god you need not destroy

1676
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,710
them to do you need not transcend them

1677
01:19:29,710 --> 01:19:32,860
to become enlightened you are already

1678
01:19:32,860 --> 01:19:36,420
beyond that you need not and you cannot

1679
01:19:36,420 --> 01:19:38,590
how can you get rid of front of it so

1680
01:19:38,590 --> 01:19:40,600
you get rid of prana god forbid listen

1681
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,590
every will be diabetic so we need we

1682
01:19:44,590 --> 01:19:47,290
need not do that either and we should

1683
01:19:47,290 --> 01:19:50,530
not do that either why not here is the

1684
01:19:50,530 --> 01:19:52,150
crucial I'll end with this here is the

1685
01:19:52,150 --> 01:19:55,210
crucial secret it is that very surging

1686
01:19:55,210 --> 01:19:57,790
of prana which you are noticing like a

1687
01:19:57,790 --> 01:19:59,590
mirror it reveals your own existence

1688
01:19:59,590 --> 01:20:06,909
also the mirror it's not me but it

1689
01:20:06,909 --> 01:20:10,179
reflects my face the experience of the

1690
01:20:10,179 --> 01:20:12,460
surging prana it's not you it's not the

1691
01:20:12,460 --> 01:20:15,310
Atman it's not the real you but it

1692
01:20:15,310 --> 01:20:16,810
really needs the real you because it

1693
01:20:16,810 --> 01:20:18,160
shines in your light

1694
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,610
it is revealed in your awareness it's a

1695
01:20:21,610 --> 01:20:28,960
door to to self-realization does it make

1696
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:37,990
sense no you you you know you know what

1697
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:40,020
is hard you know what is hard

1698
01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:43,710
controlling that prana is hard

1699
01:20:43,710 --> 01:20:45,640
controlling the planet that's what you

1700
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,580
feel as being hard can I control that

1701
01:20:48,580 --> 01:20:50,560
Rana can I somehow transcend it go

1702
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,840
beyond it but it ceases to disturb my

1703
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,800
meditation that's what you're asking

1704
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,660
in the microphone my meditation I could

1705
01:20:58,660 --> 01:21:04,570
do that all day all you need to do is

1706
01:21:04,570 --> 01:21:08,560
then watch The Watcher what you watching

1707
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,930
means as the surges come and go it

1708
01:21:10,930 --> 01:21:19,330
reveals you as the not surging water all

1709
01:21:19,330 --> 01:21:21,430
the time all the time

1710
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:25,440
well it just impacted just a reversal

1711
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:28,900
it's like right now you are immersed in

1712
01:21:28,900 --> 01:21:30,310
the mirror and delighted by the

1713
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:31,810
reflection of your face in the mirror

1714
01:21:31,810 --> 01:21:35,140
all you need to do is let the mirror be

1715
01:21:35,140 --> 01:21:35,530
there

1716
01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:38,190
let the reflection of your face be there

1717
01:21:38,190 --> 01:21:41,500
just to remind yourself that's the real

1718
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:45,340
face here not there what is being

1719
01:21:45,340 --> 01:21:49,000
reflected here is really me here so the

1720
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,820
fascination with the mirror and the face

1721
01:21:51,820 --> 01:21:58,030
will go away right now we have we are

1722
01:21:58,030 --> 01:22:00,430
like person was forgotten his or her

1723
01:22:00,430 --> 01:22:02,440
real face and very fascinated with the

1724
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:08,260
mirror oh nice and somebody wants to

1725
01:22:08,260 --> 01:22:10,390
take the mirror Robin no no no I lose my

1726
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:12,880
face if the mirror goes away but my face

1727
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,630
is not in the mirror we know what the

1728
01:22:16,630 --> 01:22:18,520
problem with with the real faces and

1729
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,930
what the advantage of the mirror is

1730
01:22:19,930 --> 01:22:22,000
mirror reflected face advantages you can

1731
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,000
see it and the problem with the real

1732
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,930
face is you cannot see it but once you

1733
01:22:28,930 --> 01:22:30,910
realize this is the real face which is

1734
01:22:30,910 --> 01:22:31,939
reflected there

1735
01:22:31,939 --> 01:22:33,709
then you're not dependent on the mirror

1736
01:22:33,709 --> 01:22:35,869
if you remove the mirror you cannot see

1737
01:22:35,869 --> 01:22:37,639
the face anymore but you know it's there

1738
01:22:37,639 --> 01:22:45,709
you're not craving for the mirror yes it

1739
01:22:45,709 --> 01:22:49,039
will work don't worry just relax it will

1740
01:22:49,039 --> 01:22:52,959
work all right

1741
01:22:54,579 --> 01:22:58,099
before I close there are a couple of

1742
01:22:58,099 --> 01:23:04,300
announcements so this is the last ask

1743
01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:08,570
Swamy session until the end of September

1744
01:23:08,570 --> 01:23:11,150
because we are closing for summer after

1745
01:23:11,150 --> 01:23:13,909
today's session there will be no normal

1746
01:23:13,909 --> 01:23:16,699
classes in July and August in the middle

1747
01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:19,099
of September the next a swami session

1748
01:23:19,099 --> 01:23:22,630
will be at the end of September

1749
01:23:23,229 --> 01:23:27,530
at this point I would like to wish

1750
01:23:27,530 --> 01:23:29,479
everybody a very happy and pleasant

1751
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,419
summer I would like to pray to sri

1752
01:23:32,419 --> 01:23:34,820
ramakrishna masha Radha and Swami

1753
01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:38,900
Vivekananda to bless us all with peace

1754
01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:43,309
and joy let none here be touched by

1755
01:23:43,309 --> 01:23:46,909
sorrow let gladness and joy fill our

1756
01:23:46,909 --> 01:23:50,929
summer survey after soaking us unto

1757
01:23:50,929 --> 01:23:55,309
salvation to Nehemiah Marcus she took

1758
01:23:55,309 --> 01:24:00,409
cover over wait I pray to the to tackle

1759
01:24:00,409 --> 01:24:04,630
my ecology to bless all of us here Oh

1760
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:12,739
Shante Shante Shante hurry you that's

1761
01:24:12,739 --> 01:24:20,289
that Sri Ramakrishna Furnham us too