1 00:00:12,010 --> 00:00:14,139 Good evening ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:15,111 --> 00:00:16,793 So I have a question: 3 00:00:17,551 --> 00:00:23,613 who here remembers when they first realised they were going to die? 4 00:00:24,485 --> 00:00:29,377 I do. I was a young boy and my Grandfather had just died. 5 00:00:29,654 --> 00:00:32,580 and I remember, a few days later, 6 00:00:32,580 --> 00:00:36,764 lying in bed at night trying to make sense of what had happened. 7 00:00:36,764 --> 00:00:39,631 What did it mean that he was dead? 8 00:00:40,321 --> 00:00:41,896 Where had he gone? 9 00:00:42,339 --> 00:00:46,605 It was like a hole in reality had opened up and swallowed him. 10 00:00:47,623 --> 00:00:49,911 But then the really shocking question occured to me, 11 00:00:49,911 --> 00:00:53,137 if he could die, could it happen to me to? 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,991 Could that hole in reality open up and swallow me? 13 00:00:56,991 --> 00:01:00,496 Would it open up beneath my bed and swallow me as I slept? 14 00:01:01,846 --> 00:01:06,539 Well, at some point all children become aware of death. 15 00:01:06,539 --> 00:01:10,282 It can happen in different ways, of course and usually comes in stages. 16 00:01:10,282 --> 00:01:12,831 Our idea of death develops as we grow older, 17 00:01:13,462 --> 00:01:17,625 And if you reach back into the dark corners of your memory, 18 00:01:17,625 --> 00:01:22,705 you might remember something like what I felt when my grandfather died 19 00:01:22,705 --> 00:01:25,997 and when I realized it could happen to me too. 20 00:01:25,997 --> 00:01:30,692 That sense that behind all of this, the void is waiting. 21 00:01:31,597 --> 00:01:36,811 And this development in childhood reflects the development of our species. 22 00:01:36,811 --> 00:01:41,849 Just as there was a point in your development as a child, 23 00:01:41,849 --> 00:01:46,250 when you sense of self and of time became sophisticated enough 24 00:01:46,250 --> 00:01:49,412 for you to realize you were mortal. 25 00:01:50,356 --> 00:01:53,446 So at some point in the evolution of our species 26 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:59,332 some early humans' sense of self and of time became sophisticated enough 27 00:01:59,332 --> 00:02:03,325 for them to become the first humans to realize: "I'm going to die". 28 00:02:05,454 --> 00:02:07,585 This is, if you like, our curse: 29 00:02:07,585 --> 00:02:10,655 it's the price we pay for being so damn clever. 30 00:02:11,735 --> 00:02:13,835 We have to live in the knowledge 31 00:02:13,835 --> 00:02:18,070 that the worst thing that can possibly happen, one day surely will. 32 00:02:18,070 --> 00:02:22,568 The end of all our projects, our hopes, our dreams, of our individual world. 33 00:02:23,282 --> 00:02:27,567 We each live in the shadow of a personal apocalypse. 34 00:02:28,601 --> 00:02:32,690 And that's frightening! It's terrifying, and so we look for a way out. 35 00:02:33,374 --> 00:02:36,169 And in my case, as I was about five years old, 36 00:02:36,169 --> 00:02:38,345 this meant asking my Mum. 37 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:43,928 Now when I first started asking, "what happens when we die?", 38 00:02:43,928 --> 00:02:47,983 the grown-ups around me at the time answered with a typical English mix 39 00:02:47,983 --> 00:02:51,134 of awkwardness and half-hearted christianity. 40 00:02:53,915 --> 00:02:55,704 And the phrase I heard most often was that Grandad was now 41 00:02:55,704 --> 00:02:57,738 'up there looking down on us'. 42 00:02:57,738 --> 00:03:00,960 And if I should die too, which wouldn't happen of course, 43 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,504 then I too would go up there. 44 00:03:04,288 --> 00:03:07,391 Which made death sound a lot like an existential elevator. 45 00:03:07,391 --> 00:03:10,981 Now this didn't sound very plausible. 46 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:14,399 I used to watch a children's news programme at the time 47 00:03:14,950 --> 00:03:17,231 and this was the era of space exploration. 48 00:03:17,231 --> 00:03:19,527 There were always rockets going up into the sky, 49 00:03:19,527 --> 00:03:21,795 up into space, going 'up there'. 50 00:03:21,795 --> 00:03:24,230 But none of the astronauts when they came back 51 00:03:24,230 --> 00:03:27,076 ever mentioned having met my grandad. 52 00:03:27,083 --> 00:03:31,322 Or any other dead people. But I was scared. 53 00:03:31,322 --> 00:03:33,740 And the idea of taking the existential elevator 54 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:36,042 to see my Grandad sounded a lot better 55 00:03:36,042 --> 00:03:38,973 than being swallowed by the void while I slept. 56 00:03:38,973 --> 00:03:43,717 And so I believed it anyway, even though it didn't make much sense. 57 00:03:44,763 --> 00:03:47,777 And this thought process that I went through as a child, 58 00:03:47,777 --> 00:03:50,839 and have been through many times since including as a grown-up, 59 00:03:50,839 --> 00:03:54,753 is a product of what psychologists call a 'bias'. 60 00:03:54,877 --> 00:03:59,961 Now a bias is a way in which we systematically get things wrong, 61 00:03:59,961 --> 00:04:04,245 ways in which we miscalculate, misjudge, distort reality 62 00:04:04,245 --> 00:04:05,990 or see what we want to see. 63 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:09,809 And the bias I am talking about works like this: 64 00:04:09,809 --> 00:04:13,780 confront someone with the fact that they are going to die 65 00:04:13,780 --> 00:04:18,326 and they will believe just about any story that tells them it isn't true 66 00:04:18,326 --> 00:04:20,772 and then can instead live for ever. 67 00:04:20,772 --> 00:04:24,118 Even if it means taking the existential elevator. 68 00:04:25,682 --> 00:04:29,568 Now, we can see this as the biggest bias of all. 69 00:04:29,568 --> 00:04:34,021 It has been demonstrated in over 400 empirical studies. 70 00:04:34,021 --> 00:04:37,949 Now these studies are ingenious but they're simple, they work like this: 71 00:04:37,949 --> 00:04:42,617 you take two groups of people who are similar in all relevant respects 72 00:04:42,617 --> 00:04:46,823 and you remind one group that they're going to die but not the other; 73 00:04:46,823 --> 00:04:48,775 and then you compare their behaviour. 74 00:04:48,775 --> 00:04:52,336 So you're observing how it biases behaviour 75 00:04:52,336 --> 00:04:55,040 when people become aware of their mortality. 76 00:04:55,890 --> 00:04:58,916 And every time, you get the same result: 77 00:04:58,916 --> 00:05:00,977 people who are made aware of their mortality 78 00:05:00,977 --> 00:05:05,663 are more willing to believe stories that tell then that they came escape death 79 00:05:05,663 --> 00:05:07,199 and live forever. 80 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:12,115 So here's an example: one recent study took two groups of agnostics, 81 00:05:12,115 --> 00:05:16,172 that is people who are undecided in their religious beliefs. 82 00:05:16,172 --> 00:05:20,442 Now one group was asked to think about being dead, 83 00:05:20,442 --> 00:05:23,487 the other group was asked to think about being lonely. 84 00:05:23,487 --> 00:05:27,210 They were then again asked about their religious beliefs: 85 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:29,350 those who had been asked to think about being dead 86 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:34,378 were afterwards twice as likely to express faith in God and Jesus. 87 00:05:34,738 --> 00:05:36,548 Twice as likely. 88 00:05:36,548 --> 00:05:39,454 Even though before they were equally agnostic. 89 00:05:39,454 --> 00:05:42,393 But put the fear of death in them and they run to Jesus. 90 00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:50,054 Now, this shows that reminding people of death biases them to believe, 91 00:05:50,054 --> 00:05:51,952 regardless of the evidence. 92 00:05:51,952 --> 00:05:55,767 And it works not just for religion but for any kind of belief system 93 00:05:55,767 --> 00:05:59,037 that promises immortality in some form, 94 00:05:59,037 --> 00:06:03,912 whether it's becoming famous, or having children, or even nationalism 95 00:06:03,912 --> 00:06:07,093 which promises you can live on as part of a greater whole. 96 00:06:07,093 --> 00:06:10,719 This is a bias that has shaped the course of human history. 97 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:17,010 Now the theory behind this bias in nearly 400 studies is called 98 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:20,180 terror management theory. And the idea is simple, it's just this: 99 00:06:20,180 --> 00:06:25,673 we develop our world views, that is the stories we tell ourselves 100 00:06:25,673 --> 00:06:27,960 about the world and our place in it, 101 00:06:28,616 --> 00:06:32,433 in order to help us manage the terror of death. 102 00:06:33,615 --> 00:06:37,637 And these immortality stories have thousands of different manifestations. 103 00:06:37,637 --> 00:06:42,841 But I believe that behind the apparent diversity, there are actually 104 00:06:42,841 --> 00:06:48,446 just four basic forms that these immortality stories can take. 105 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:53,342 And we can see them repeating themselves throughout history. 106 00:06:53,342 --> 00:06:57,193 Just with slight variations to reflect the vocabulary of the day. 107 00:06:57,433 --> 00:07:02,099 Now I am going to briefly introduce these four basic forms of immortality story 108 00:07:02,099 --> 00:07:05,609 and I want to try to give you some sense of the way in which they're retold 109 00:07:05,609 --> 00:07:07,661 by each culture or generation, 110 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:10,123 using the vocabulary of their day. 111 00:07:10,123 --> 00:07:15,965 Now, the first story is the simplest: we want to avoid death. 112 00:07:16,561 --> 00:07:20,041 And the dream of doing that in this body, in this world, forever, 113 00:07:20,041 --> 00:07:23,309 is the first and simplest kind of immortality story. 114 00:07:23,309 --> 00:07:25,772 And it might at first sound implausible, 115 00:07:25,772 --> 00:07:29,019 but actually almost every culture in human history 116 00:07:29,019 --> 00:07:33,594 has had some myth or legend of a elixir of life, 117 00:07:33,594 --> 00:07:36,624 or a fountain of youth or something that promises 118 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:38,941 to keep us going forever. 119 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:44,156 Ancient Egypt had such myths, ancient Babylon, ancient India, 120 00:07:44,156 --> 00:07:47,574 throughout European history, we find them in the work of the alchemists 121 00:07:47,574 --> 00:07:50,376 and of course we still believe this today. 122 00:07:50,376 --> 00:07:53,821 Only we tell this story using the vocabulary of science. 123 00:07:54,564 --> 00:07:58,042 So a hundred years ago, hormones had just been discovered, 124 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:02,055 and people hoped that hormone treatments were going to cure aging and disease. 125 00:08:02,055 --> 00:08:06,415 And now instead we set our hopes on stem cells, genetic engineering 126 00:08:06,415 --> 00:08:07,646 and nanotechnology. 127 00:08:07,646 --> 00:08:11,136 But the idea that science can cure death 128 00:08:11,136 --> 00:08:15,802 is just one more chapter in the story of the magical elixir, 129 00:08:15,802 --> 00:08:19,612 a story that is as old as civilization. 130 00:08:19,612 --> 00:08:23,393 But betting everything on the idea of finding the elixir 131 00:08:23,393 --> 00:08:26,219 and staying alive forever is a risky strategy. 132 00:08:26,219 --> 00:08:27,897 When we look back through history 133 00:08:28,307 --> 00:08:31,544 at all those who have sought an elixir in the past, 134 00:08:31,544 --> 00:08:35,004 the one thing that they now have in common is that they're all dead. 135 00:08:35,004 --> 00:08:36,304 (Laughter) 136 00:08:36,304 --> 00:08:39,554 So we need a back up plan, and exactly this type of plan B 137 00:08:39,554 --> 00:08:43,092 is what the second kind of immortality story offers, 138 00:08:43,092 --> 00:08:44,969 and that's resurrection. 139 00:08:44,969 --> 00:08:47,548 And it's staged with the idea that I am this body, 140 00:08:47,548 --> 00:08:49,322 I am this physical organism, 141 00:08:49,322 --> 00:08:51,411 it accepts that I am going to have to die, 142 00:08:51,411 --> 00:08:54,965 but says despite that, I can rise up and I can live again. 143 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,707 In other words, I can do what Jesus did. 144 00:08:58,406 --> 00:09:02,320 Jesus died, he was three days in the tomb and he rose up and lived again. 145 00:09:03,127 --> 00:09:07,704 And the idea that we can all be resurrected to live again is orthodox belief, 146 00:09:07,704 --> 00:09:11,048 not just for Christians but also Jews and Muslims. 147 00:09:11,048 --> 00:09:14,934 But our desire to believe this story is so deeply embedded 148 00:09:14,934 --> 00:09:18,912 that we are reinventing it again for the scientific age. 149 00:09:18,912 --> 00:09:21,395 For example with the idea of cryonics. 150 00:09:21,395 --> 00:09:24,892 That's the idea that when you die, you can have yourself frozen, 151 00:09:25,617 --> 00:09:29,431 and then at some point when technology is advanced enough, 152 00:09:29,431 --> 00:09:32,595 you can be thawed out and repaired and revived and so ressurrected. 153 00:09:32,595 --> 00:09:37,455 So some people believe an omnipotent God will ressurect them to live again 154 00:09:37,455 --> 00:09:40,290 and other people believe an omnipotent scientist will do it. 155 00:09:41,324 --> 00:09:44,344 But for others, the whole idea of ressurection, 156 00:09:44,344 --> 00:09:48,400 of climbing out of the grave, is just too much like a bad zombie movie. 157 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,349 They find the body too messy, too unreliable to guarantee eternal life. 158 00:09:53,349 --> 00:09:58,925 And so they set their hopes on the third more spiritual immortality story, 159 00:09:58,925 --> 00:10:03,287 the idea we can leave our body behind and live on as a soul. 160 00:10:03,287 --> 00:10:07,025 Now the majority of people on Earth believe they have a soul 161 00:10:07,025 --> 00:10:09,870 and the idea is central to many religions. 162 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:13,907 But even though in its current form and its traditional form, 163 00:10:13,907 --> 00:10:16,229 the idea of the soul is still hugely popular, 164 00:10:16,229 --> 00:10:19,712 nonetheless we are again reinventing it for the digital age. 165 00:10:19,712 --> 00:10:23,050 For example, with the idea that you can leave your body behind 166 00:10:23,050 --> 00:10:27,333 by uploading your mind, your essence, the real you, onto a computer. 167 00:10:27,333 --> 00:10:30,498 and so live on as an avatar in the ether. 168 00:10:32,242 --> 00:10:35,953 But of course there are skeptics who say if we look at the evidence of science, 169 00:10:35,953 --> 00:10:41,075 particularly neuroscience, it suggests that your mind, your essence, the real you, 170 00:10:41,075 --> 00:10:44,144 is very much dependant on a particular part of your body 171 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:45,475 that is your brain. 172 00:10:45,475 --> 00:10:50,442 And such skeptics can find comfort in the fourth kind of immortality story, 173 00:10:50,442 --> 00:10:52,252 and that is legacy. 174 00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:56,527 The idea that you can live on through the echo you leave in the world. 175 00:10:56,527 --> 00:11:01,180 Like the great Greek warrior Achilies, who sacrificed his life fighting at Troy 176 00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:03,640 so that he might win immortal fame. 177 00:11:04,676 --> 00:11:07,717 And the pursuit of fame is as widespread and popular now 178 00:11:07,717 --> 00:11:08,829 as it ever was. 179 00:11:08,829 --> 00:11:12,145 And in our digital age, it's even easier to achieve. 180 00:11:12,145 --> 00:11:15,852 You don't need to be a great warrior like Achilies or a great king or hero, 181 00:11:15,852 --> 00:11:19,143 all you need is an internet connection and a funny cat. 182 00:11:19,143 --> 00:11:21,144 (Laughter) 183 00:11:21,144 --> 00:11:24,796 But some people prefer to leave a more tangible, biological legacy, 184 00:11:24,796 --> 00:11:26,166 children for example. 185 00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:29,989 Or they like, they hope, to live on as part of some greater whole 186 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:33,764 a nation, or family, or tribe, their gene pool. 187 00:11:35,172 --> 00:11:39,915 But again there are skeptics, who doubt whether legacy really is immortality. 188 00:11:39,915 --> 00:11:42,146 Woody Allen for example, who said, 189 00:11:42,146 --> 00:11:44,685 "I dont want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen, 190 00:11:44,685 --> 00:11:46,724 I want to live on in my apartment". 191 00:11:46,724 --> 00:11:48,372 (Laughter) 192 00:11:48,372 --> 00:11:50,099 And if you want to live on in your apartment 193 00:11:50,099 --> 00:11:51,619 you need a elixir of course. 194 00:11:51,619 --> 00:11:54,881 Which was our first kind of immortality story. 195 00:11:55,946 --> 00:11:59,158 So those are the four basic kinds of immortality stories 196 00:11:59,158 --> 00:12:03,210 and I've tried to give just some sense of how they're retold by each generation, 197 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:06,463 with just slight variations to fit the fashions of the day. 198 00:12:06,463 --> 00:12:11,670 And the fact that they reccur in this way, in such a similar form 199 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:14,816 but in such different belief systems, suggests I think 200 00:12:14,816 --> 00:12:16,395 that we should be skeptical 201 00:12:16,395 --> 00:12:20,475 of the truth of any particular version of these stories. 202 00:12:21,485 --> 00:12:23,114 The fact that some people believe 203 00:12:23,114 --> 00:12:26,119 an omnipotent God will ressurrect them to live again, 204 00:12:26,119 --> 00:12:29,559 and others believe an omnipotent scientist will do it, 205 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,830 suggests that neither are really believing this on the strength of the evidence. 206 00:12:34,830 --> 00:12:39,925 Rather we believe these stories because we are biased to believe them, 207 00:12:39,925 --> 00:12:44,644 and we are bias to believe them because we are so afraid of death. 208 00:12:45,727 --> 00:12:51,337 So the question is, are we doomed to lead the one life we have 209 00:12:51,337 --> 00:12:55,390 in a way that is shaped by fear and denial? 210 00:12:55,390 --> 00:12:57,773 Or can we overcome this bias? 211 00:12:57,773 --> 00:13:02,143 Well the Greek philosopher Epicurus thought we could. 212 00:13:02,143 --> 00:13:08,433 He argued that the fear of death is natural but it is not rational. 213 00:13:09,243 --> 00:13:11,803 Death, he said, is nothing to us, 214 00:13:11,803 --> 00:13:14,481 because when we are here, death is not, 215 00:13:14,481 --> 00:13:17,177 and when death is here, we are gone. 216 00:13:18,693 --> 00:13:22,753 Now this is often quoted but it's difficult to really grasp, to really internalise, 217 00:13:22,753 --> 00:13:26,529 because exactly this idea of being gone is so difficult to imagine. 218 00:13:27,273 --> 00:13:30,719 So two thousand years later another philosopher, Ludovic Wittgenstein, 219 00:13:30,719 --> 00:13:32,300 put it like this: 220 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:35,256 death is not an event in life, 221 00:13:35,256 --> 00:13:38,578 we do not live to experience death. 222 00:13:38,578 --> 00:13:42,523 And so he added, in this sense life has no end. 223 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,680 So it was natural for me as a child to fear being swallowed by the void, 224 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:52,981 but it wasn't rational, because being swallowed by the void 225 00:13:52,981 --> 00:13:57,069 is not something that any of us will ever live to experience. 226 00:13:58,059 --> 00:14:00,350 Now overcoming this bias is not easy 227 00:14:00,350 --> 00:14:03,124 because the fear of death is so deeply embedded in us. 228 00:14:03,124 --> 00:14:07,569 Yet when we see that the fear itself is not rational 229 00:14:07,569 --> 00:14:10,595 and when we bring out into the open 230 00:14:10,595 --> 00:14:12,978 the ways in which it can unconsciously bias us, 231 00:14:12,978 --> 00:14:15,566 then we can at least start to try 232 00:14:15,566 --> 00:14:18,634 to minimize the influence it has on our lives. 233 00:14:18,634 --> 00:14:23,816 Now, I find it helps to see life as being like a book. 234 00:14:23,816 --> 00:14:27,565 Just as a book is bounded by its covers, by beginning and end, 235 00:14:27,565 --> 00:14:30,753 so our lives are bounded by birth and death. 236 00:14:30,753 --> 00:14:34,754 And even though a book is limited by beginning and end, 237 00:14:34,754 --> 00:14:39,821 it can encompass distant landscapes, exotic figures, fantastic adventures. 238 00:14:39,821 --> 00:14:43,850 And even though a book is limited by beginning and end, 239 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:47,836 the characters within it know no horizons. 240 00:14:47,836 --> 00:14:51,629 They only know the moments that make up their story, 241 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:53,331 even when the book is closed. 242 00:14:54,592 --> 00:14:59,600 And so the characters of the book are not afraid of reaching the last page. 243 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,309 Long John Silver is not afraid of you finishing your copy of Treasure Island. 244 00:15:04,309 --> 00:15:06,691 And so it should be with us. 245 00:15:06,691 --> 00:15:09,906 Imagine the book of your life, its covers, 246 00:15:09,906 --> 00:15:12,030 its beginning and end are your birth and your death. 247 00:15:12,030 --> 00:15:14,160 You can only know the moments in between, 248 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,076 the moments that make up your life. 249 00:15:16,076 --> 00:15:19,945 It makes no sense for you to fear what is outside of those covers, 250 00:15:19,945 --> 00:15:22,838 whether before your birth, or after your death. 251 00:15:22,838 --> 00:15:26,063 And you needn't worry how long the book is, 252 00:15:26,063 --> 00:15:28,716 or whether it's a comic strip or an epic. 253 00:15:29,456 --> 00:15:33,632 The only thing that matters is that you make it a good story. 254 00:15:33,632 --> 00:15:35,593 Thank you. 255 00:15:35,593 --> 00:15:39,623 (Applause)