1 00:00:00,883 --> 00:00:03,809 A year ago, we were invited by the Swiss embassy in Berlin 2 00:00:03,809 --> 00:00:06,781 to present our art projects. 3 00:00:06,781 --> 00:00:11,587 We are used to invitations, but this invitation really thrilled us. 4 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:14,466 The Swiss embassy in Berlin is special. 5 00:00:14,466 --> 00:00:17,392 It is the only old building in the government district 6 00:00:17,392 --> 00:00:20,341 that was not destroyed during the Second World War, 7 00:00:20,341 --> 00:00:23,684 and it sits right next to the Federal Chancellery. 8 00:00:23,684 --> 00:00:28,165 No one is closer to Chancellor Merkel than the Swiss diplomats. 9 00:00:28,165 --> 00:00:30,627 (Laughter) 10 00:00:30,627 --> 00:00:34,318 The government district in Berlin also contains the Reichstag -- 11 00:00:34,318 --> 00:00:37,337 Germany's parliament -- and the Brandenburg Gate, 12 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:40,402 and right next to the gate there are other embassies, 13 00:00:40,402 --> 00:00:44,813 in particular the U.S. and the British embassy. 14 00:00:44,813 --> 00:00:47,948 Although Germany is an advanced democracy, 15 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:50,874 citizens are limited in their constitutional rights 16 00:00:50,874 --> 00:00:52,685 in its government district. 17 00:00:52,685 --> 00:00:57,514 The right of assembly and the right to demonstrate are restricted there. 18 00:00:57,514 --> 00:01:01,183 And this is interesting from an artistic point of view. 19 00:01:01,183 --> 00:01:06,012 The opportunities to exercise participation and to express oneself 20 00:01:06,012 --> 00:01:08,358 are always bound to a certain order 21 00:01:08,358 --> 00:01:11,764 and always subject to a specific regulation. 22 00:01:11,764 --> 00:01:16,570 With an awareness of the dependencies of these regulations, 23 00:01:16,570 --> 00:01:19,264 we can gain a new perspective. 24 00:01:19,264 --> 00:01:24,047 The given terms and conditions shape our perception, our actions, 25 00:01:24,047 --> 00:01:26,253 and our lives. 26 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:29,155 And this is crucial in another context. 27 00:01:29,155 --> 00:01:31,012 Over the last couple of years, 28 00:01:31,012 --> 00:01:35,215 we learned that from the roofs of the U.S. and the British embassy, 29 00:01:35,215 --> 00:01:39,441 the secret services have been listening to the entire district, 30 00:01:39,441 --> 00:01:43,202 including the mobile phone of Angela Merkel. 31 00:01:43,202 --> 00:01:48,357 The antennas of the British GCHQ are hidden in the white cylindrical ??. 32 00:01:48,357 --> 00:01:54,719 By the listening post of the American NSA is covered by radio transparent screens. 33 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:58,898 But how to address these hidden and disguised forces? 34 00:01:58,898 --> 00:02:01,058 With my colleague Christoph Wachter, 35 00:02:01,058 --> 00:02:04,099 we accepted the invitation of the Swiss embassy, 36 00:02:04,099 --> 00:02:09,718 and we used this opportunity to exploit the specific situation. 37 00:02:09,718 --> 00:02:13,689 If people are spying on us, it stands to reason 38 00:02:13,689 --> 00:02:16,313 that they have to listen to what we are saying. 39 00:02:16,313 --> 00:02:20,376 (Laughter) 40 00:02:20,376 --> 00:02:24,648 On the roof of the Swiss embassy, we installed a series of antennas. 41 00:02:26,217 --> 00:02:32,612 They weren't as sophisticated as those used by the Americans and the British. 42 00:02:32,612 --> 00:02:35,910 They were makeshift ????? antennas, not camouflaged but totally obvious 43 00:02:35,910 --> 00:02:38,324 and visible. 44 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:41,111 The Academy of Arts joined the project, 45 00:02:41,111 --> 00:02:44,756 and so we built another large antenna on their rooftop 46 00:02:44,756 --> 00:02:49,028 exactly between the listening posts of the NSA and the GCHQ. 47 00:02:49,028 --> 00:02:50,886 (Laughter) 48 00:02:50,886 --> 00:02:55,321 Never have we been observed in such detail while building an art installation. 49 00:02:55,321 --> 00:02:57,526 A helicopter circled over our heads 50 00:02:57,526 --> 00:03:00,893 with a camera registering each and every move we made, 51 00:03:00,893 --> 00:03:05,560 and on the roof of the U.S. embassy, security officers patrolled. 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,371 Although the government district 53 00:03:07,371 --> 00:03:10,668 is governed by a strict police order, 54 00:03:10,668 --> 00:03:15,637 there are no specific laws relating to digital communication. 55 00:03:15,637 --> 00:03:19,190 Our installation was therefore perfectly legal, 56 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:23,694 and the Swiss Ambassador informed Chancellor Merkel about it. 57 00:03:23,694 --> 00:03:26,629 We named the project "Can You Hear Me?" 58 00:03:26,629 --> 00:03:28,812 (Laughter) 59 00:03:28,812 --> 00:03:32,782 The antennas created an open and free wifi communication network 60 00:03:32,782 --> 00:03:36,335 in which anyone who wanted to would be able to participate 61 00:03:36,335 --> 00:03:39,246 using any wifi-enabled device without any hindrance, 62 00:03:39,246 --> 00:03:42,256 and be able to send messages to those listening 63 00:03:42,256 --> 00:03:46,412 on the frequencies that were being intercepted. 64 00:03:46,412 --> 00:03:49,059 Text messages, voice chat, file sharing: 65 00:03:49,059 --> 00:03:52,820 anything could be sent anonymously. 66 00:03:52,820 --> 00:03:55,258 And people did communicate. 67 00:03:55,258 --> 00:03:58,370 Over 15,000 messages were sent. 68 00:03:58,370 --> 00:04:01,342 Here are some examples. 69 00:04:01,342 --> 00:04:06,636 "Hello world, hello Berlin, hello NSA, hello GCHQ." 70 00:04:06,636 --> 00:04:11,138 "NSA Agents, Do the Right Thing! Blow the whistle!" 71 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:17,711 "This is the NSA. In God we trust. All others we track!!!!!" 72 00:04:17,711 --> 00:04:20,219 (Laughter) 73 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:24,050 "#@nonymous is watching #NSA #GCHQ - we are part of our organizations. 74 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:26,695 #expect us. We will #shutdown" 75 00:04:27,509 --> 00:04:31,016 "This is the NSA's Achilles heel. Open Networks." 76 00:04:31,016 --> 00:04:35,797 "Agents, what twisted story of yourself will you tell your grandchildren?" 77 00:04:36,565 --> 00:04:40,373 "@NSA My neighbors are noisy. Please send a drone strike." 78 00:04:40,373 --> 00:04:44,285 (Laughter) 79 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:47,942 "Make Love, Not cyberwar." 80 00:04:47,942 --> 00:04:50,589 We invited the embassies and the government departments 81 00:04:50,589 --> 00:04:53,143 to participate in the open network too, 82 00:04:53,143 --> 00:04:55,070 and to our surprise, they did. 83 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:58,019 Files appeared on the network, including classified documents 84 00:04:58,019 --> 00:05:00,597 leaked from the parliamentary investigation commission, 85 00:05:00,597 --> 00:05:04,219 which highlights that the free exchange and discussion of vital information 86 00:05:04,219 --> 00:05:09,652 is starting to become difficult, even for members of our parliament. 87 00:05:09,652 --> 00:05:13,019 We also organized guided tours to experience and sound out 88 00:05:13,019 --> 00:05:15,108 the power constellations on site. 89 00:05:15,108 --> 00:05:18,568 The tours visited the restricted zones around the embassies, 90 00:05:18,568 --> 00:05:24,234 and we discussed the potential and the highlights of communication. 91 00:05:24,234 --> 00:05:29,133 If we become aware of the constellation, 92 00:05:29,133 --> 00:05:31,594 the terms and conditions of communication, 93 00:05:31,594 --> 00:05:33,730 it not only broadens our horizon, 94 00:05:33,730 --> 00:05:37,677 it allows us to look behind the regulations that limit our worldview, 95 00:05:37,677 --> 00:05:42,414 our specific, social, political, or aesthetic conventions. 96 00:05:42,414 --> 00:05:45,363 Let's look at an actual example. 97 00:05:45,363 --> 00:05:48,451 The fate of people living in the makeshift settlements 98 00:05:48,451 --> 00:05:53,327 on the outskirts of Paris is hidden and faded from view. 99 00:05:53,327 --> 00:05:55,927 It's a vicious circle. 100 00:05:55,927 --> 00:05:58,876 It's not poverty, not racism, not exclusion that are new. 101 00:05:58,876 --> 00:06:02,243 What is new is how these realities are hidden 102 00:06:02,243 --> 00:06:05,447 and how people are made invisible in an age of actually global 103 00:06:05,447 --> 00:06:08,535 and overwhelming communication and exchange. 104 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:11,577 Such makeshift settlements are considered illegal, 105 00:06:11,577 --> 00:06:13,876 and therefore those living in them 106 00:06:13,876 --> 00:06:16,592 don't have a chance of making their voices heard. 107 00:06:16,592 --> 00:06:21,933 On the contrary, every time they appear, every time they risk becoming visible, 108 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:24,626 merely gives grounds for further persecution, 109 00:06:24,626 --> 00:06:27,041 expulsion, and suppression. 110 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:32,056 What interested us is how we could come to know this hidden side. 111 00:06:32,056 --> 00:06:35,493 We were searching for an interface, and we found one. 112 00:06:35,493 --> 00:06:39,765 It's not a digital interface, but a physical one: it's a hotel. 113 00:06:39,765 --> 00:06:42,714 We named the project Hotel Gelem. 114 00:06:42,714 --> 00:06:46,661 Together with Roma families, we created several Hotel Gelems in Europe, 115 00:06:46,661 --> 00:06:49,749 for example in Freiburg in Germany, in Montreuil near Paris, 116 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:51,421 and also in the Balkans. 117 00:06:51,421 --> 00:06:52,791 These are real hotels. 118 00:06:52,791 --> 00:06:54,463 People can stay there. 119 00:06:54,463 --> 00:06:56,483 But they aren't a commercial enterprise. 120 00:06:56,483 --> 00:06:58,410 They are a symbol. 121 00:06:58,410 --> 00:07:00,244 You can go online 122 00:07:00,244 --> 00:07:03,982 and ask for a personal invitation to come and live for a few days 123 00:07:03,982 --> 00:07:06,676 in the Hotel Gelem, in their homes. 124 00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:10,693 eating, working, and living with the Roma families. 125 00:07:10,693 --> 00:07:13,804 Here, the Roma families are not the travelers, 126 00:07:13,804 --> 00:07:15,406 the visitors are. 127 00:07:15,406 --> 00:07:18,216 Here, the Roma families are not a minority, 128 00:07:18,216 --> 00:07:21,652 the visitors are. 129 00:07:21,652 --> 00:07:25,831 The point is not to make judgments 130 00:07:25,831 --> 00:07:29,337 but rather to find out about the context that determines these disparate 131 00:07:29,337 --> 00:07:32,077 and seemingly insurmountable contradictions. 132 00:07:32,077 --> 00:07:34,306 In the world of globalization, 133 00:07:34,306 --> 00:07:37,162 the continents are drifting closer to each other. 134 00:07:37,162 --> 00:07:39,995 Cultures, goods, and people are in permanent exchange, 135 00:07:39,995 --> 00:07:43,176 but at the same time, the gap between the world of the privileged 136 00:07:43,176 --> 00:07:47,286 and the world of the excluded is growing. 137 00:07:47,286 --> 00:07:49,352 We were recently in Australia. 138 00:07:49,352 --> 00:07:51,999 For us, it was no problem to enter the country. 139 00:07:51,999 --> 00:07:54,855 We have European passports, visas, and air tickets. 140 00:07:54,855 --> 00:07:58,593 But asylum seekers who arrive by boat in Australia 141 00:07:58,593 --> 00:08:01,380 are deported or taken to prison. 142 00:08:01,380 --> 00:08:03,214 The interception of the boats 143 00:08:03,214 --> 00:08:05,861 and the disappearance of the people into the detention system 144 00:08:05,861 --> 00:08:09,042 are veiled by the Australian authorities. 145 00:08:09,042 --> 00:08:13,732 These procedures are declared to be secret military operations. 146 00:08:13,732 --> 00:08:16,890 After dramatic escapes from crisis zones and war zones, 147 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:20,907 men, women, and children are detained by Australia without trial, 148 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:24,761 sometimes for years. 149 00:08:24,761 --> 00:08:27,083 During our stay, however, 150 00:08:27,083 --> 00:08:31,704 we managed to reach out and work with asylum seekers who were imprisoned, 151 00:08:31,704 --> 00:08:34,002 despite strict screening and isolation. 152 00:08:34,002 --> 00:08:37,787 From these contexts was born an installation in the art space 153 00:08:37,787 --> 00:08:41,827 of the Queensland University of Technology in Brisbane. 154 00:08:41,827 --> 00:08:46,185 On the face of it, it was a very simple installation. 155 00:08:46,185 --> 00:08:49,877 On the floor, a stylized compass gave the direction 156 00:08:49,877 --> 00:08:51,572 to each immigration detention center, 157 00:08:51,572 --> 00:08:56,263 accompanied by the distance and the name of the immigration facility. 158 00:08:56,263 --> 00:09:00,628 But the exhibition step came in the form of connectivity. 159 00:09:00,628 --> 00:09:04,366 Above every floor marking, there was a headset. 160 00:09:04,366 --> 00:09:08,963 Visitors were offered the opportunity to talk directly to a refugee 161 00:09:08,963 --> 00:09:11,216 who was or had been imprisoned 162 00:09:11,216 --> 00:09:13,468 in a specific detention facility 163 00:09:13,468 --> 00:09:17,011 and engage in a personal conversation. 164 00:09:17,011 --> 00:09:20,062 In the protected context of the art exhibition, 165 00:09:20,062 --> 00:09:22,454 asylum seekers felt free to talk about themselves, 166 00:09:22,454 --> 00:09:25,913 their story, and their situation without fear of consequences. 167 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:29,675 Visitors immersed themselves in long conversations 168 00:09:29,675 --> 00:09:33,104 about families torn apart, about dramatic escapes from war zones, 169 00:09:33,104 --> 00:09:35,078 about suicide attempts, 170 00:09:35,078 --> 00:09:38,584 about the fate of children in detention. 171 00:09:38,584 --> 00:09:40,650 Emotions ran deep. Many wept. 172 00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:43,088 Several revisited the exhibition. 173 00:09:43,088 --> 00:09:46,478 It was a powerful experience. 174 00:09:46,478 --> 00:09:51,447 Europe is now facing a stream of migrants. 175 00:09:51,447 --> 00:09:55,255 The situation for the asylum seekers is made worse by contradictory policies 176 00:09:55,255 --> 00:09:59,226 and the temptation of militarized responses. 177 00:09:59,226 --> 00:10:01,896 We have established communication systems also 178 00:10:01,896 --> 00:10:05,518 in remote refugee centers in Switzerland and Greece. 179 00:10:05,518 --> 00:10:08,258 They are all about providing basic information -- 180 00:10:08,258 --> 00:10:10,719 medical costs, legal information, guidance -- 181 00:10:10,719 --> 00:10:13,227 but they are significant. 182 00:10:13,227 --> 00:10:15,874 Information on the Internet that could ensure survival 183 00:10:15,874 --> 00:10:18,590 along dangerous routes is being censored, 184 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:24,534 and the provision of such information is becoming increasingly criminalized. 185 00:10:24,534 --> 00:10:27,622 This brings us back to our network and to the antennas 186 00:10:27,622 --> 00:10:29,991 on the roof of the Swiss embassy in Berlin 187 00:10:29,991 --> 00:10:32,452 and the "Can You Hear Me?" project. 188 00:10:32,452 --> 00:10:35,981 We should not take it for granted to be boundlessly connected. 189 00:10:35,981 --> 00:10:38,048 We should start making our own connections, 190 00:10:38,048 --> 00:10:42,413 fighting for this idea of an equal and globally interconnected world. 191 00:10:42,413 --> 00:10:45,487 This is essential to overcome our speechlessness 192 00:10:45,487 --> 00:10:48,784 and the separation provoked by rival political forces. 193 00:10:48,784 --> 00:10:52,012 It is only in truly exposing ourselves 194 00:10:52,012 --> 00:10:54,566 to the transformative power of this experience 195 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:58,118 that we can overcome prejudice and exclusion. 196 00:10:58,118 --> 00:10:59,976 Thank you. 197 00:10:59,976 --> 00:11:03,960 (Applause) 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,152 Moderator: Thank you Mathias. 199 00:11:06,152 --> 00:11:08,103 The other half of your artistic duo is also here. 200 00:11:08,103 --> 00:11:10,239 Christoph Wachter, come on stage. 201 00:11:10,239 --> 00:11:15,045 (Applause) 202 00:11:15,045 --> 00:11:17,112 First tell me just a detail: 203 00:11:17,112 --> 00:11:19,341 the name of the hotel is not a random name. 204 00:11:19,341 --> 00:11:22,336 Gelem means something specific in the Roma language. 205 00:11:22,336 --> 00:11:27,607 Mathias Jud: Yes, "Gelem Gelem" is the title of the Romany hymn, 206 00:11:27,607 --> 00:11:30,671 the official, and it means "I went a long way." 207 00:11:30,671 --> 00:11:32,970 Moderator: That's just to add the detail to your talk, 208 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:36,383 but you two traveled to the island of Lesbos very recently -- 209 00:11:36,383 --> 00:11:38,171 you're just back a couple of days ago -- 210 00:11:38,171 --> 00:11:41,724 in Greece, where thousands of refugees are arriving and have been arriving 211 00:11:41,724 --> 00:11:43,488 over the last few months. 212 00:11:43,488 --> 00:11:45,903 What did you see there and what did you do there? 213 00:11:45,903 --> 00:11:49,502 Christoph Wachter: Well, Lesbos is one of the Greek islands close to Turkey, 214 00:11:49,502 --> 00:11:56,584 and during our stay, many asylum seekers arrived by boat on overcrowded dinghies, 215 00:11:56,584 --> 00:11:59,904 and after landing, they were left completely on their own. 216 00:11:59,904 --> 00:12:04,107 They are denied many services. 217 00:12:04,107 --> 00:12:07,845 For example, they are not allowed to buy a bus ticket or to rent a hotel room, 218 00:12:07,845 --> 00:12:12,326 so many families literally sleep in the streets. 219 00:12:12,326 --> 00:12:16,900 And we installed networks there to allow basic communication, 220 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:19,617 because I think, I believe, 221 00:12:19,617 --> 00:12:25,050 it's not only that we have to speak about the refugees. 222 00:12:25,050 --> 00:12:28,673 I think we need to start talking to them, 223 00:12:28,673 --> 00:12:32,550 and by doing so, we can realize that it is about human beings, 224 00:12:32,550 --> 00:12:35,151 about their lives and their struggle to survive. 225 00:12:35,151 --> 00:12:37,055 Moderator: And allow them to talk as well. 226 00:12:37,055 --> 00:12:39,469 Christoph, thank you for coming to TED. 227 00:12:39,469 --> 00:12:42,000 Mathias, thank you for coming to TED and sharing your story. 228 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,634 (Applause)