0:00:00.883,0:00:03.809 A year ago, we were invited[br]by the Swiss embassy in Berlin 0:00:03.809,0:00:06.781 to present our art projects. 0:00:06.781,0:00:11.587 We are used to invitations,[br]but this invitation really thrilled us. 0:00:11.587,0:00:14.466 The Swiss embassy in Berlin is special. 0:00:14.466,0:00:17.392 It is the only old building[br]in the government district 0:00:17.392,0:00:20.341 that was not destroyed[br]during the Second World War, 0:00:20.341,0:00:23.684 and it sits right next[br]to the Federal Chancellery. 0:00:23.684,0:00:28.165 No one is closer to Chancellor Merkel[br]than the Swiss diplomats. 0:00:28.165,0:00:30.627 (Laughter) 0:00:30.627,0:00:34.318 The government district in Berlin[br]also contains the Reichstag -- 0:00:34.318,0:00:37.337 Germany's parliament --[br]and the Brandenburg Gate, 0:00:37.337,0:00:40.402 and right next to the gate[br]there are other embassies, 0:00:40.402,0:00:44.813 in particular the U.S.[br]and the British embassy. 0:00:44.813,0:00:47.948 Although Germany[br]is an advanced democracy, 0:00:47.948,0:00:50.874 citizens are limited[br]in their constitutional rights 0:00:50.874,0:00:52.685 in its government district. 0:00:52.685,0:00:57.514 The right of assembly and the right[br]to demonstrate are restricted there. 0:00:57.514,0:01:01.183 And this is interesting[br]from an artistic point of view. 0:01:01.183,0:01:06.012 The opportunities to exercise[br]participation and to express oneself 0:01:06.012,0:01:08.358 are always bound to a certain order 0:01:08.358,0:01:11.764 and always subject[br]to a specific regulation. 0:01:11.764,0:01:16.570 With an awareness[br]of the dependencies of these regulations, 0:01:16.570,0:01:19.264 we can gain a new perspective. 0:01:19.264,0:01:24.047 The given terms and conditions[br]shape our perception, our actions, 0:01:24.047,0:01:26.253 and our lives. 0:01:26.253,0:01:29.155 And this is crucial in another context. 0:01:29.155,0:01:31.012 Over the last couple of years, 0:01:31.012,0:01:35.215 we learned that from the roofs[br]of the U.S. and the British embassy, 0:01:35.215,0:01:39.441 the secret services have been listening[br]to the entire district, 0:01:39.441,0:01:43.202 including the mobile phone[br]of Angela Merkel. 0:01:43.202,0:01:48.357 The antennas of the British GCHQ[br]are hidden in the white cylindrical ??. 0:01:48.357,0:01:54.719 By the listening post of the American NSA[br]is covered by radio transparent screens. 0:01:54.719,0:01:58.898 But how to address these hidden[br]and disguised forces? 0:01:58.898,0:02:01.058 With my colleague Christoph Wachter, 0:02:01.058,0:02:04.099 we accepted the invitation[br]of the Swiss embassy, 0:02:04.099,0:02:09.718 and we used this opportunity[br]to exploit the specific situation. 0:02:09.718,0:02:13.689 If people are spying on us,[br]it stands to reason 0:02:13.689,0:02:16.313 that they have to listen[br]to what we are saying. 0:02:16.313,0:02:20.376 (Laughter) 0:02:20.376,0:02:24.648 On the roof of the Swiss embassy,[br]we installed a series of antennas. 0:02:26.217,0:02:32.612 They weren't as sophisticated as those[br]used by the Americans and the British. 0:02:32.612,0:02:35.910 They were makeshift ????? antennas,[br]not camouflaged but totally obvious 0:02:35.910,0:02:38.324 and visible. 0:02:38.324,0:02:41.111 The Academy of Arts joined the project, 0:02:41.111,0:02:44.756 and so we built another large antenna[br]on their rooftop 0:02:44.756,0:02:49.028 exactly between the listening posts[br]of the NSA and the GCHQ. 0:02:49.028,0:02:50.886 (Laughter) 0:02:50.886,0:02:55.321 Never have we been observed in such detail[br]while building an art installation. 0:02:55.321,0:02:57.526 A helicopter circled over our heads 0:02:57.526,0:03:00.893 with a camera registering[br]each and every move we made, 0:03:00.893,0:03:05.560 and on the roof of the U.S. embassy,[br]security officers patrolled. 0:03:05.560,0:03:07.371 Although the government district 0:03:07.371,0:03:10.668 is governed by a strict police order, 0:03:10.668,0:03:15.637 there are no specific laws[br]relating to digital communication. 0:03:15.637,0:03:19.190 Our installation[br]was therefore perfectly legal, 0:03:19.190,0:03:23.694 and the Swiss Ambassador[br]informed Chancellor Merkel about it. 0:03:23.694,0:03:26.629 We named the project[br]"Can You Hear Me?" 0:03:26.629,0:03:28.812 (Laughter) 0:03:28.812,0:03:32.782 The antennas created an open[br]and free wifi communication network 0:03:32.782,0:03:36.335 in which anyone who wanted to[br]would be able to participate 0:03:36.335,0:03:39.246 using any wifi-enabled device[br]without any hindrance, 0:03:39.246,0:03:42.256 and be able to send messages[br]to those listening 0:03:42.256,0:03:46.412 on the frequencies[br]that were being intercepted. 0:03:46.412,0:03:49.059 Text messages, voice chat, file sharing: 0:03:49.059,0:03:52.820 anything could be sent anonymously. 0:03:52.820,0:03:55.258 And people did communicate. 0:03:55.258,0:03:58.370 Over 15,000 messages were sent. 0:03:58.370,0:04:01.342 Here are some examples. 0:04:01.342,0:04:06.636 "Hello world, hello Berlin,[br]hello NSA, hello GCHQ." 0:04:06.636,0:04:11.138 "NSA Agents, Do the Right Thing![br]Blow the whistle!" 0:04:12.835,0:04:17.711 "This is the NSA. In God we trust.[br]All others we track!!!!!" 0:04:17.711,0:04:20.219 (Laughter) 0:04:20.219,0:04:24.050 "#@nonymous is watching #NSA #GCHQ -[br]we are part of our organizations. 0:04:24.050,0:04:26.695 #expect us. We will #shutdown" 0:04:27.509,0:04:31.016 "This is the NSA's Achilles heel.[br]Open Networks." 0:04:31.016,0:04:35.797 "Agents, what twisted story of yourself[br]will you tell your grandchildren?" 0:04:36.565,0:04:40.373 "@NSA My neighbors are noisy.[br]Please send a drone strike." 0:04:40.373,0:04:44.285 (Laughter) 0:04:44.285,0:04:47.942 "Make Love, Not cyberwar." 0:04:47.942,0:04:50.589 We invited the embassies[br]and the government departments 0:04:50.589,0:04:53.143 to participate in the open network too, 0:04:53.143,0:04:55.070 and to our surprise, they did. 0:04:55.070,0:04:58.019 Files appeared on the network,[br]including classified documents 0:04:58.019,0:05:00.597 leaked from the parliamentary[br]investigation commission, 0:05:00.597,0:05:04.219 which highlights that the free exchange[br]and discussion of vital information 0:05:04.219,0:05:09.652 is starting to become difficult,[br]even for members of our parliament. 0:05:09.652,0:05:13.019 We also organized guided tours[br]to experience and sound out 0:05:13.019,0:05:15.108 the power constellations on site. 0:05:15.108,0:05:18.568 The tours visited the restricted zones[br]around the embassies, 0:05:18.568,0:05:24.234 and we discussed the potential[br]and the highlights of communication. 0:05:24.234,0:05:29.133 If we become aware of the constellation, 0:05:29.133,0:05:31.594 the terms and conditions of communication, 0:05:31.594,0:05:33.730 it not only broadens our horizon, 0:05:33.730,0:05:37.677 it allows us to look behind[br]the regulations that limit our worldview, 0:05:37.677,0:05:42.414 our specific, social, political,[br]or aesthetic conventions. 0:05:42.414,0:05:45.363 Let's look at an actual example. 0:05:45.363,0:05:48.451 The fate of people living[br]in the makeshift settlements 0:05:48.451,0:05:53.327 on the outskirts of Paris[br]is hidden and faded from view. 0:05:53.327,0:05:55.927 It's a vicious circle. 0:05:55.927,0:05:58.876 It's not poverty, not racism,[br]not exclusion that are new. 0:05:58.876,0:06:02.243 What is new is how[br]these realities are hidden 0:06:02.243,0:06:05.447 and how people are made invisible[br]in an age of actually global 0:06:05.447,0:06:08.535 and overwhelming[br]communication and exchange. 0:06:08.535,0:06:11.577 Such makeshift settlements[br]are considered illegal, 0:06:11.577,0:06:13.876 and therefore those living in them 0:06:13.876,0:06:16.592 don't have a chance[br]of making their voices heard. 0:06:16.592,0:06:21.933 On the contrary, every time they appear,[br]every time they risk becoming visible, 0:06:21.933,0:06:24.626 merely gives grounds[br]for further persecution, 0:06:24.626,0:06:27.041 expulsion, and suppression. 0:06:27.041,0:06:32.056 What interested us is how we could[br]come to know this hidden side. 0:06:32.056,0:06:35.493 We were searching for an interface,[br]and we found one. 0:06:35.493,0:06:39.765 It's not a digital interface,[br]but a physical one: it's a hotel. 0:06:39.765,0:06:42.714 We named the project Hotel Gelem. 0:06:42.714,0:06:46.661 Together with Roma families,[br]we created several Hotel Gelems in Europe, 0:06:46.661,0:06:49.749 for example in Freiburg in Germany,[br]in Montreuil near Paris, 0:06:49.749,0:06:51.421 and also in the Balkans. 0:06:51.421,0:06:52.791 These are real hotels. 0:06:52.791,0:06:54.463 People can stay there. 0:06:54.463,0:06:56.483 But they aren't a commercial enterprise. 0:06:56.483,0:06:58.410 They are a symbol. 0:06:58.410,0:07:00.244 You can go online 0:07:00.244,0:07:03.982 and ask for a personal invitation[br]to come and live for a few days 0:07:03.982,0:07:06.676 in the Hotel Gelem, in their homes. 0:07:06.676,0:07:10.693 eating, working, and living[br]with the Roma families. 0:07:10.693,0:07:13.804 Here, the Roma families[br]are not the travelers, 0:07:13.804,0:07:15.406 the visitors are. 0:07:15.406,0:07:18.216 Here, the Roma families[br]are not a minority, 0:07:18.216,0:07:21.652 the visitors are. 0:07:21.652,0:07:25.831 The point is not to make judgments 0:07:25.831,0:07:29.337 but rather to find out about the context[br]that determines these disparate 0:07:29.337,0:07:32.077 and seemingly insurmountable[br]contradictions. 0:07:32.077,0:07:34.306 In the world of globalization, 0:07:34.306,0:07:37.162 the continents are drifting[br]closer to each other. 0:07:37.162,0:07:39.995 Cultures, goods, and people[br]are in permanent exchange, 0:07:39.995,0:07:43.176 but at the same time, the gap[br]between the world of the privileged 0:07:43.176,0:07:47.286 and the world of the excluded is growing. 0:07:47.286,0:07:49.352 We were recently in Australia. 0:07:49.352,0:07:51.999 For us, it was no problem[br]to enter the country. 0:07:51.999,0:07:54.855 We have European passports,[br]visas, and air tickets. 0:07:54.855,0:07:58.593 But asylum seekers who arrive[br]by boat in Australia 0:07:58.593,0:08:01.380 are deported or taken to prison. 0:08:01.380,0:08:03.214 The interception of the boats 0:08:03.214,0:08:05.861 and the disappearance of the people[br]into the detention system 0:08:05.861,0:08:09.042 are veiled by the Australian authorities. 0:08:09.042,0:08:13.732 These procedures are declared[br]to be secret military operations. 0:08:13.732,0:08:16.890 After dramatic escapes[br]from crisis zones and war zones, 0:08:16.890,0:08:20.907 men, women, and children[br]are detained by Australia without trial, 0:08:20.907,0:08:24.761 sometimes for years. 0:08:24.761,0:08:27.083 During our stay, however, 0:08:27.083,0:08:31.704 we managed to reach out and work[br]with asylum seekers who were imprisoned, 0:08:31.704,0:08:34.002 despite strict screening and isolation. 0:08:34.002,0:08:37.787 From these contexts was born[br]an installation in the art space 0:08:37.787,0:08:41.827 of the Queensland University[br]of Technology in Brisbane. 0:08:41.827,0:08:46.185 On the face of it,[br]it was a very simple installation. 0:08:46.185,0:08:49.877 On the floor, a stylized compass[br]gave the direction 0:08:49.877,0:08:51.572 to each immigration detention center, 0:08:51.572,0:08:56.263 accompanied by the distance[br]and the name of the immigration facility. 0:08:56.263,0:09:00.628 But the exhibition step[br]came in the form of connectivity. 0:09:00.628,0:09:04.366 Above every floor marking,[br]there was a headset. 0:09:04.366,0:09:08.963 Visitors were offered the opportunity[br]to talk directly to a refugee 0:09:08.963,0:09:11.216 who was or had been imprisoned 0:09:11.216,0:09:13.468 in a specific detention facility 0:09:13.468,0:09:17.011 and engage in a personal conversation. 0:09:17.011,0:09:20.062 In the protected context[br]of the art exhibition, 0:09:20.062,0:09:22.454 asylum seekers felt free[br]to talk about themselves, 0:09:22.454,0:09:25.913 their story, and their situation[br]without fear of consequences. 0:09:25.913,0:09:29.675 Visitors immersed themselves[br]in long conversations 0:09:29.675,0:09:33.104 about families torn apart,[br]about dramatic escapes from war zones, 0:09:33.104,0:09:35.078 about suicide attempts, 0:09:35.078,0:09:38.584 about the fate of children in detention. 0:09:38.584,0:09:40.650 Emotions ran deep. Many wept. 0:09:40.650,0:09:43.088 Several revisited the exhibition. 0:09:43.088,0:09:46.478 It was a powerful experience. 0:09:46.478,0:09:51.447 Europe is now facing a stream of migrants. 0:09:51.447,0:09:55.255 The situation for the asylum seekers[br]is made worse by contradictory policies 0:09:55.255,0:09:59.226 and the temptation[br]of militarized responses. 0:09:59.226,0:10:01.896 We have established[br]communication systems also 0:10:01.896,0:10:05.518 in remote refugee centers[br]in Switzerland and Greece. 0:10:05.518,0:10:08.258 They are all about providing[br]basic information -- 0:10:08.258,0:10:10.719 medical costs,[br]legal information, guidance -- 0:10:10.719,0:10:13.227 but they are significant. 0:10:13.227,0:10:15.874 Information on the Internet[br]that could ensure survival 0:10:15.874,0:10:18.590 along dangerous routes is being censored, 0:10:18.590,0:10:24.534 and the provision of such information[br]is becoming increasingly criminalized. 0:10:24.534,0:10:27.622 This brings us back to our network[br]and to the antennas 0:10:27.622,0:10:29.991 on the roof of the Swiss embassy in Berlin 0:10:29.991,0:10:32.452 and the "Can You Hear Me?" project. 0:10:32.452,0:10:35.981 We should not take it for granted[br]to be boundlessly connected. 0:10:35.981,0:10:38.048 We should start making[br]our own connections, 0:10:38.048,0:10:42.413 fighting for this idea of an equal[br]and globally interconnected world. 0:10:42.413,0:10:45.487 This is essential to overcome[br]our speechlessness 0:10:45.487,0:10:48.784 and the separation provoked[br]by rival political forces. 0:10:48.784,0:10:52.012 It is only in truly exposing ourselves 0:10:52.012,0:10:54.566 to the transformative power[br]of this experience 0:10:54.566,0:10:58.118 that we can overcome prejudice[br]and exclusion. 0:10:58.118,0:10:59.976 Thank you. 0:10:59.976,0:11:03.960 (Applause) 0:11:03.960,0:11:06.152 Moderator: Thank you Mathias. 0:11:06.152,0:11:08.103 The other half of your[br]artistic duo is also here. 0:11:08.103,0:11:10.239 Christoph Wachter, come on stage. 0:11:10.239,0:11:15.045 (Applause) 0:11:15.045,0:11:17.112 First tell me just a detail: 0:11:17.112,0:11:19.341 the name of the hotel[br]is not a random name. 0:11:19.341,0:11:22.336 Gelem means something specific[br]in the Roma language. 0:11:22.336,0:11:27.607 Mathias Jud: Yes, "Gelem Gelem"[br]is the title of the Romany hymn, 0:11:27.607,0:11:30.671 the official, and it means[br]"I went a long way." 0:11:30.671,0:11:32.970 Moderator: That's just to add[br]the detail to your talk, 0:11:32.970,0:11:36.383 but you two traveled to the island[br]of Lesbos very recently -- 0:11:36.383,0:11:38.171 you're just back a couple of days ago -- 0:11:38.171,0:11:41.724 in Greece, where thousands of refugees[br]are arriving and have been arriving 0:11:41.724,0:11:43.488 over the last few months. 0:11:43.488,0:11:45.903 What did you see there[br]and what did you do there? 0:11:45.903,0:11:49.502 Christoph Wachter: Well, Lesbos is one[br]of the Greek islands close to Turkey, 0:11:49.502,0:11:56.584 and during our stay, many asylum seekers[br]arrived by boat on overcrowded dinghies, 0:11:56.584,0:11:59.904 and after landing, they were left[br]completely on their own. 0:11:59.904,0:12:04.107 They are denied many services. 0:12:04.107,0:12:07.845 For example, they are not allowed to buy[br]a bus ticket or to rent a hotel room, 0:12:07.845,0:12:12.326 so many families literally[br]sleep in the streets. 0:12:12.326,0:12:16.900 And we installed networks there[br]to allow basic communication, 0:12:16.900,0:12:19.617 because I think, I believe, 0:12:19.617,0:12:25.050 it's not only that we have to speak[br]about the refugees. 0:12:25.050,0:12:28.673 I think we need to start talking to them, 0:12:28.673,0:12:32.550 and by doing so, we can realize[br]that it is about human beings, 0:12:32.550,0:12:35.151 about their lives[br]and their struggle to survive. 0:12:35.151,0:12:37.055 Moderator: And allow them to talk as well. 0:12:37.055,0:12:39.469 Christoph, thank you for coming to TED. 0:12:39.469,0:12:42.000 Mathias, thank you for coming to TED[br]and sharing your story. 0:12:42.000,0:12:43.634 (Applause)