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Hi everyone we’re live here with[br]Damon Rose from BBC Ouch!

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And we’re just gonna have a little[br]chat with him and share with you all

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-Hi Damon[br]Hello

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-Thanks for joining us today[br]-Thanks for coming to our country

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-Yes [br]-It’s all brighter for it.

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[Laughter][br]Thank you, it’s been quite lovely actually

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So, we can just get right into it. [br]Maybe you could tell us

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how you started BBC Ouch!

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How did we start it? So, it all [br]started with a meeting some years ago.

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I think it was back in about 2001, [br]we had a TV show on national station BBC2

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Which was a disability magazine show[br]that was on every week

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and it was filmed at the time the internet[br]was beginning to grow.

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[inaudible]

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And it could be a two way conversation

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It was a bit like the website Ouch![br]which was always a little bit different.

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[inaudible]

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Very keen not to be wordy[br]

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[inaudible]

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We wanted to do disability at the time[br]in the way that disabled mates might talk

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about it down at the pub. [br]You know, that sort of thing.

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So we set it up.

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[inaudible]

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And that went on 8 or 9 years[br]when we went on to BBC news,

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we took one leg of what we were doing,[br]which was the journalism side of things

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and we concentrated on that and kept [br]the podcast as well, which we do

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[inaudible]

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So that's where we are these days.[br]-And you're happy with the way things are going?

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Yeah but I'm standing in the BBC foyer[br]so if I wasn't happy

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I wouldn't be telling you.[br][Laughter}

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But I am.

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Good. [br]Good, so how did the name come to you?

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The name literally, I know people say this[br]literally did come to me in the shower.

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One morning we had, oh goodness,[br]the idea of coming up with a name

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for a disability website,[br]is a bit of a nightmare

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for any kind of disability project.[br]

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We desperately wanted, [br]forgive me,

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but we didn't want anything with the word[br]"able" in it, for instance, because

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it was such a, people do it a lot.[br]Every single disability project

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is "able" this, "able" that, work "able",[br]media "able", radio "able".

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Whatever, you know.[br]So I was keen not to go through that

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and I wanted something that had a bit of[br]attitude as well.

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I'm trying to think of other things[br]we went through at the time.

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Some of the ideas are probably [br]worth dwelling on a bit.

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Some of the names we came up with

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as we went along, I remember at one point,[br]when our working title was

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Disability Noodle, I don't know where that

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came from. [br][Laughter]

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Someone in the marketing[br]department once decided

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that a good name for it might be[br]"I Dance to my Own Song"

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and you sit there and you think,[br]that's a bit floaty

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It's a bit, I don't know, pretentious[br]or something

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[Laughter][br]Don't know how that one came about

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but people come at disability from all [br]sorts of different angles, don't they.

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Clearly. [br]Someone even suggested that "Minefield"

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might be a really good name for Ouch![br]because people think of it as, you know,

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you can't say this, you can't say that.[br]It's a bit of a minefield.

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But, then we of course, had to point out[br]that there's plenty of disabled people

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that were unfortunately disabled in[br]minefields.

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So, perhaps it wasn't the best title.[br][Laughter}

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So, what would you call a new disability [br]website, Leah, that's what I want to know.

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I would, just a period. [br]I don't know. I think you guys did a

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great job with what you came up with.[br]I think it's perfect.

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Thank you very much.[br]-Yeah, absolutely.

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-Can you think of the most memorable[br]reaction you've gotten from an audience

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or listener?[br]Most memorable?

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-Yeah, anything that really[br]stands out to you?

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-Funny, negative, positive, something that[br]just pops in your head.

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Oh, yeah, things aren't popping into my[br]head right now.

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I mean, it's always nice when we hear, [br]we get people now, course,

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podcast's been running 10 years,

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but we get people who say,[br]"you changed our life with your podcast.

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We've never heard disabled voiced in that[br]way before."

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We had created a kind of radio show, that[br]had never been done before, in that way

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and it was really out there and really[br]said, horrible things some times but

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you know, quirky things and amusing things[br]and it had a but of an attitude so a lot

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of people have written to us over the[br]years and said if it wasn't for the

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podcast we wouldn't have the same kind of[br]self-esteem we have now and we wouldn't

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really have gone down certain roads to[br]becoming happy, really.

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Which is, you know, very exciting.[br]I don't know if everybody thinks like that

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I'm sure they don't, but some are [br]particularly gratifying.

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They've happened. I guess that's why we do[br]this disability media stuff, isn't it?

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-Sure. Change attitudes, bring awareness. [br]Yeah.

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-So, anything else you want to add because[br]I am pleased with our chat.

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[Laughter][br]What else can I add?

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Well, if anybody wants to come see[br]our stuff, it's bbc.co.uk/ouch

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We do podcast, video, articles, you know.[br]-Wonderful. Thanks for joining us.

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Thank you.[br]-Yeah.