9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you very much. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thanks everybody for coming,… 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you are packaging software and you want[br]me to work on with you, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is how you can do that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It is a very self-??? talk: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I just want to explain some of the things[br]that I like, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some practice that I prefer about Debian[br]packaging, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and I don't pretend this is any sort of[br]official, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 permanent or final thing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I just wanted to share some ideas that I[br]have about the way that I work with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 packages, in the hope that maybe, hmm,[br]for two hopes: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 One is that I hope that I can show you[br]something that you have not heard of, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or maybe you were doing differently, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or maybe you think it is the right think[br]to do and it is just nice to see somebody 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 somebody else doing it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 My second hope is that you can tell me[br]what I am doing wrong, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you can help me learn and improve[br]on my own packaging techniques. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you see something that I am proposing[br]up here, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you think there is a problem with it,[br]I would like to hear about it too. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I just want to see more of the culture[br]within Debian, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of people who are doing packaging,[br]explaining what they are doing, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so I thought I would just step up and[br]explain: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "Here is some of the practice that I do", 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In the hope that other people will do the[br]same and explain what they are doing, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and maybe they can learn from me and[br]I can learn from them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Without much further ????, I am just going[br]to dive into it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you have questions, I am perfectly[br]happy to be interrupted, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we have some folks with walking mics[br]in the crowd: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can just raise your hand. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I you have got a question or an[br]interruption or whatever, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is fine. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I ??? I got the whole 15 minutes,[br]I think there are 20 minutes, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I ??? the whole time, so there will be[br]also time for questions at the end 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you prefer. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But I do not mind being interrupted. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, this is all on this web page here, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you could probably skip this talk and go[br]read the web page, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but then you would not have the nice[br]??? actions, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it is easier to tell me that I am[br]wrong in person, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so I would like to have that happen. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I put this up on the Debian wiki, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because I want anyone to be able to find[br]it. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you thing you have got some good ideas,[br]you should put it on the Debian Wiki too: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 other people can take advantage of the[br]ideas that you have got. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 First baseline is: I really like revision[br]control. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And I know that it makes me a certain[br]flavor on nerd, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but when we are working with things that[br]are as complicated as software packages, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 hmmm, I think a lot of people don't get[br]that in Debian we are not just working on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 one software package: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are actually probably, if you are doing[br]a responsibly work, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on at least two software packages, and[br]maybe 5. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So you have got the version that is[br]unstable and you have got 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the version that you try to maintain for[br]stable as well. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And we are committing to doing maintenance[br]work. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 A lot of our work in the project is ???[br]in nature: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we want to clean up the mess and we want[br]us to stay out of the way and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to make sure things work, functionally,[br] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for people who are relying on the[br]operating system to not get in their way. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So revision control I think is really[br]helpful because it means you can 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 keep track of what changes