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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.31,0:00:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Dr Karen Sacs, I'm a professor
Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.23,0:00:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Chair of the Department\Nof Administration, Rehabilitation
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.70,0:00:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Post Secondary Education \Nat San Diego State University.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.87,0:00:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been here for almost 30 years\Nnow, but I started my career
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.18,0:00:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Special Education Teacher.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.68,0:00:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, the first year that I taught,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.23,0:00:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the first year that my students\Nwere ever allowed
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.94,0:00:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into public school,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.09,0:00:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the severity of \Ntheir disabilities.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.09,0:00:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A law was passed in 1975, that\Nallowed students
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.49,0:00:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with very significant disabilities,\Nfor everybody to be able
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.49,0:00:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come to public school.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.71,0:00:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was the first year \Nthat I started teaching.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.42,0:00:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we were in a small building,\Nwith about 40 students,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.40,0:00:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a bunch of us, new teachers
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.18,0:00:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to figure out what to do\Nwith all these kids
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.86,0:00:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from ages 5 to 22, who first\Nstepped foot into public school.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.00,0:01:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I was teaching, this was\Nfar before the ADA was passed,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.35,0:01:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I learned a lot about\Nthe lack of accessiblity.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.68,0:01:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, with the students\NI was teaching,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.16,0:01:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started teaching the older\Nstudents, the teenagers,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.30,0:01:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't have a whole lot\Nof time with them in school
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.06,0:01:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they've just started.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.75,0:01:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized that they needed
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.38,0:01:20.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn how to access their\Ncommunity,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.73,0:01:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They needed to learn how to\Nget jobs,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.24,0:01:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they needed to learn all\Nthose life skills
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.30,0:01:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you had so short time\Nwith them.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.30,0:01:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in my school district
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.28,0:01:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had people whose job was\Nto look for jobs for students,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.75,0:01:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they were 'job developers'\Nof sorts, and when I asked
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.51,0:01:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a job developer for our school,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.84,0:01:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was told that we wouldn't \Nbe getting one,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.91,0:01:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our students\Ncouldn't work.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.84,0:01:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, as you can imagine,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.55,0:01:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just motivated me to\Nfigure it out.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.62,0:01:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I knew that my students\Ncould work.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.22,0:02:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I started going out\Nand meeting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.11,0:02:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the business people\Nin the neighborhood,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.65,0:02:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they introduced me \Nto other business people,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.03,0:02:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started learning how to talk\Nto employers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.65,0:02:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was nice, something \NI learned
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.72,0:02:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my Special Education Program,\Nlearning to be a teacher.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.08,0:02:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found that, \Nmy students of course, could work.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.18,0:02:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I appealed directly to \Nemployers,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.54,0:02:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they helped me learn\Nthe ropes of how to do all of this
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.00,0:02:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started teaching my students
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.63,0:02:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to ride the bus,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.52,0:02:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how to figure out some kinds \Nof accommodations for them
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.69,0:02:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do jobs, and it was so exciting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.67,0:02:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a student got a job
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.54,0:02:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and found something that \Nthey liked to do
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.74,0:02:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that they were good at.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.92,0:02:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we had parents who never \Nin a million years had thought
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.26,0:02:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their sons and daughters\Ncould work, and yet
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.65,0:02:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they saw them being successful
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.70,0:02:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and parents who were very \Nnervous about
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.92,0:02:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having them involved in the community
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.64,0:03:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were so excited, they became \Nof course our biggest advocates
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.81,0:03:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for expanding this\Neducational program.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.13,0:03:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I found that no matter\Nwhere I went
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.83,0:03:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trying to raise awareness\Nand more importantly,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.49,0:03:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,raise expectations
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.34,0:03:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the students I was \Nworking for
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.25,0:03:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and well, working with.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.67,0:03:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I came to San Diego State,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.25,0:03:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was to really look at how we\Ncould use assisted technology
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.18,0:03:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to connect people with disabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.49,0:03:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether they were going to school,\Ngetting jobs,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.13,0:03:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessing their community in \Nany way.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.38,0:03:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So assisted technology really\Nbecame an area I was focused on
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.68,0:03:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had a couple of \Nfederal grants
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.05,0:03:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that funded me, funded me and\Nother colleagues
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.81,0:03:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to develop some community\Npartnerships
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.08,0:03:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support the development\Nof assisted technology
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.14,0:03:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this was in the earlier days,\NI think the ADA had just passed,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.98,0:03:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the communities were opening up,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.05,0:04:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,employers were becoming\Nmore aware,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.27,0:04:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we started getting people from \Nthe community
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.01,0:04:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really interested in helping us\Nto make modifications,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.94,0:04:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help individual access the work\Nthat they wanted to access.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.66,0:04:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I started teaching a course\Naround the applications
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of assisted technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.85,0:04:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I co-taught it with an engineering\Nfaculty member
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.40,0:04:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had students from Special \NEducation, from Rehabilitation,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.68,0:04:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Englineering...
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.99,0:04:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we also had people from \Nthe community,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.27,0:04:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had occupational and physical\Ntherapists, speech therapists,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.65,0:04:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had people who sold equipment,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.24,0:04:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had different kinds of engineers\Nwho took the class,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.33,0:04:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we all sort of long together
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.73,0:04:45.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the possibilities were when\Nwe made a good match
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.65,0:04:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people with disabilities
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.20,0:04:50.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and an assisted technology that\Nconnected them
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.61,0:04:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the activities that they\Nwanted to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.86,0:04:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we found out that made\Nsuch a huge difference
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.08,0:05:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it gave people control over\Ntheir lives.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.22,0:05:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the activities we did \Nin the class
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.04,0:05:06.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to do the ADA Accessibility Survey
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.25,0:05:09.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was so eye opening for\Nme and for my students
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.67,0:05:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for people who were in\Nour community,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.02,0:05:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were working with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.75,0:05:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we would have students \Ngo out and conduct the survey
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.10,0:05:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and find out how accessible \N-or not-
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.07,0:05:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their local neighborhoods were.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.41,0:05:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went to retail places,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.57,0:05:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they went to restaurants,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.30,0:05:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hotels, and any kind of places
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.61,0:05:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they might want to access \Nin their neighborhoods
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.64,0:05:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what we found is, for all of us,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.81,0:05:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just never looked at a place \Nthe same way.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.97,0:05:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And having that ADA Accessibility \NSurvey as a context,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.22,0:05:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a guide to help us look at\Nwhere we could make changes
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.07,0:05:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because part of the assignment
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.43,0:05:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not only taking the survey and\Nfinding out what was good
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.86,0:05:57.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where people could make\Nimprovements,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.71,0:06:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also to do the advocacy,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.53,0:06:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring that awareness, and to\Nmake sure that people realize
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.40,0:06:07.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have a whole market\Nout there
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.63,0:06:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they hadn't thought about.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.56,0:06:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in order for that market to\Naccess their businesses,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.28,0:06:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they needed to make it more accessible.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.51,0:06:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a really exciting and,\Nto this day, I still teach the class,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.13,0:06:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I still do the ADA Accessibility \NSurvey, and luckily
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.26,0:06:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things have gotten better and\Nwe've seen a lot of improvements,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.97,0:06:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we always find things that \Ncan be improved.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.94,0:06:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have seen many \Npositive changes,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.78,0:06:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both in physical access\Nto buildings,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.34,0:06:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also access to electronic\Nand digital communication
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.83,0:06:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's a big one that has made\Na huge difference.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.36,0:06:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that what happens often is,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.74,0:06:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't think about these\Nconsiderations up front.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.41,0:06:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That all too often is after\Nthe fact.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.63,0:06:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even at the university, whenever
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.07,0:07:02.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're introducing new software,\Nnew technologies, new platforms,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.43,0:07:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're using,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.00,0:07:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always ask upfront
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.55,0:07:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what about the accessibility?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.11,0:07:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it used to be that the answer\Nwas always, inevitably...
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.73,0:07:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"we'll get to that."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.71,0:07:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We'll get to that later"
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.09,0:07:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen that change and people\Nare really looking
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.73,0:07:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the accessibility issues upfront.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.27,0:07:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think that really happens...\Nneeds to happen more.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.40,0:07:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the idea of universal design\Nhas to be thought of upfront,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.85,0:07:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's much more inclusive
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.24,0:07:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also much more cost effective.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.14,0:07:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I think getting into \Nthe mindset of people upfront
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.87,0:07:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've had the chance to work
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.11,0:07:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with architecture students, \Nfor example, and being able to
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.39,0:07:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduce them to individuals \Nwith disabilities has given them
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.05,0:07:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insight that it's not about \Ncompliance
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.60,0:07:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not just about compliance \Nand going with the codes.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.43,0:07:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But once they've met people
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.96,0:08:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were accessing the\Ncommunity in different ways,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.60,0:08:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it helped them think about\Ndesign in a new way.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.94,0:08:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it encouraged them to \Nconsider their creativity
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.90,0:08:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in how to make their designs,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.28,0:08:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether these were buildings, or\Noutside landscapes,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.08,0:08:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever it was, that they\Nshould make those
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.34,0:08:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more accessible\Nfor a wider range of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.29,0:08:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'd like to see, is \Ndisability
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.18,0:08:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,firmly planted in the diversity\Ndiscussions.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.05,0:08:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, all too often
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.24,0:08:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the diversity discussions,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.67,0:08:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly that are happening\Nnow, often leave disability
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.81,0:08:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of the equation.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.79,0:08:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And disability crossings over \Nintersects with every other identity
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.32,0:08:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's gender, age, \Nethnicity....every aspect
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.75,0:08:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll find people with disabilities.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.02,0:08:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact, any of us can join
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.99,0:09:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disable group, at any time\Nand most of us will at some point
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.67,0:09:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our lives. So I think
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.24,0:09:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being able to think proactively and\Nholistically about disability...
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.28,0:09:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is really critical and it has to be\Nforming part of those conversations
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.47,0:09:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're having about diversity.