Apple's promise to be carbon neutral by 2030
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0:01 - 0:02Liz Ogbu: So Lisa,
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0:02 - 0:05Apple is on target
to become carbon neutral -
0:05 - 0:08across its entire business
and manufacturing supply chain -
0:08 - 0:10by 2030.
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0:10 - 0:12Can you explain exactly what that means?
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0:12 - 0:14Lisa Jackson: Sure.
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0:14 - 0:19So today Apple is carbon neutral
for all of our own operations. -
0:19 - 0:23And we're running
on 100 percent renewable energy -
0:23 - 0:24for our corporate campuses,
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0:24 - 0:26for our stores
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0:26 - 0:27and for our data centers.
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0:28 - 0:30So we know how to do this work.
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0:30 - 0:34The challenge for 2030
is to convert our supply chain, -
0:34 - 0:36and that work has already begun.
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0:36 - 0:38We already have 70 suppliers,
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0:38 - 0:42over eight gigawatts
of energy coming online -
0:42 - 0:44in our supply chain,
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0:44 - 0:46and then our last piece
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0:46 - 0:48will be to convert the energy
that our customers use -
0:48 - 0:51to charge our devices
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0:51 - 0:52to clean energy.
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0:52 - 0:54LO: What are some of the biggest changes
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0:54 - 0:57that Apple's going to need to make
in its business operations -
0:57 - 0:59in order to be able
to achieve those goals? -
0:59 - 1:03LJ: So imagine if instead
of mining material -
1:03 - 1:05to go into Apple products,
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1:05 - 1:07we actually started
with recycled material. -
1:07 - 1:10So we're not going all the way
back to the mine -
1:10 - 1:14through smelting,
transportation, processing. -
1:14 - 1:18Instead, we're really talking
about reprocessing to some degree -
1:18 - 1:21and putting that material
right back into products -- -
1:21 - 1:26super important with things
like conflict metals or rare earths. -
1:26 - 1:29So Apple has been doing that work
now for several years. -
1:29 - 1:31We've actually promised
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1:31 - 1:36that we want to make all of our products
out of recycled and renewable materials. -
1:36 - 1:38And so that investment
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1:38 - 1:42also means we get to take away
all the carbon emissions -
1:42 - 1:46associated with everything up until
the point of the recycled material. -
1:46 - 1:51LO: So it strikes me that you actually
hold a really interesting perspective. -
1:51 - 1:52You know, you're now at Apple
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1:52 - 1:55and, like, deep in the business world
around these things, -
1:55 - 2:00but formerly, you actually led
the US Environmental Protection Agency -
2:00 - 2:01under the Obama administration,
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2:01 - 2:03so you've seen
the government side as well. -
2:03 - 2:05What, in your mind, is the right way
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2:05 - 2:08to look at the respective roles
of the state and the market -
2:08 - 2:10in fighting the climate crisis?
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2:10 - 2:14LJ: I don't think there's anything
that business can do -
2:14 - 2:18that replaces the role
of government and leadership. -
2:18 - 2:19Yes, I ran the EPA,
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2:19 - 2:23but the other part of my history is
I worked there almost 20 years -
2:23 - 2:26before I became the head of the EPA.
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2:26 - 2:28And you see firsthand, right,
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2:28 - 2:33that only government is really charged
with protecting its citizens. -
2:33 - 2:36We always think protection,
and we think the military, -
2:36 - 2:40but I think the protection
of the Environmental Protection Agency -
2:40 - 2:43or the Air Quality Board in California
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2:43 - 2:45or a local health department
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2:45 - 2:50is as important to the day-to-day life
of the people in that jurisdiction -
2:50 - 2:55as anything that the other security-type
protection can provide. -
2:55 - 2:58Now, business is a different story.
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2:58 - 3:01I think business has an incredibly
important role to play in leading, -
3:02 - 3:03especially at this time.
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3:03 - 3:07So when Apple said
its goal is 2030 carbon neutral -- -
3:07 - 3:11obviously the UN is saying
2050 carbon neutral -- -
3:11 - 3:16we decided to challenge ourselves
to go as fast as we could possibly do it -
3:16 - 3:19so that other businesses
wouldn't have an excuse to say, -
3:19 - 3:21"I need longer.
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3:21 - 3:22I need much, much longer."
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3:22 - 3:25I think it's great to see this moment
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3:25 - 3:28where suddenly there seems
to be a realization -
3:28 - 3:32that climate change policy
cannot be foisted on others, -
3:32 - 3:35but that, in fact, it has to be organic,
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3:35 - 3:37you know, for lack of a better word.
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3:37 - 3:39And it's not an either-or.
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3:39 - 3:44It's always been this weird, you know,
belief that we're taught from little -
3:44 - 3:48that you can either be successful
or you can do the right thing. -
3:48 - 3:51There's no difference between the two;
it's a false choice. -
3:52 - 3:55LO: Although a lot of us have been talking
about justice for some time, -
3:55 - 3:56it is only recently that I think
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3:56 - 4:00this idea of justice as it relates
to the environment and climate -
4:00 - 4:04is making appearance
in a forum such as this. -
4:04 - 4:08You've personally described
systemic racism and climate change -
4:09 - 4:10as interconnected issues,
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4:10 - 4:12and I think it would
be great to hear more. -
4:12 - 4:14LJ: To me, they're just the same thing.
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4:14 - 4:17There is no climate justice
without real justice. -
4:17 - 4:21There is no climate change remedy
that is going to be made and stick -
4:21 - 4:23that doesn't involve justice.
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4:23 - 4:26And sometimes, more and more,
I'm starting to think -
4:26 - 4:28that we shouldn't attack climate change,
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4:28 - 4:30we should attack justice and injustice,
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4:30 - 4:33and if we did, climate change
would take care of itself. -
4:33 - 4:34For me, it's always come down to
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4:34 - 4:39restoring people to the center
of the discussion of solutions -
4:39 - 4:42and restoring representation
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4:43 - 4:47for the communities
most impacted by climate change -
4:47 - 4:50at the table of solution-making.
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4:50 - 4:52LO: Well, thank you. I appreciate it.
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4:52 - 4:54It's been a real pleasure
to speak with you today, -
4:54 - 4:56and I look forward to seeing
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4:56 - 4:58how you advanced the efforts
you talked about. -
4:58 - 5:01LJ: And thank you
for the voice you've been. -
5:01 - 5:06I think it's super important
that leadership look like us, -
5:06 - 5:08but also sound like you.
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5:08 - 5:10So thank you.
- Title:
- Apple's promise to be carbon neutral by 2030
- Speaker:
- Lisa Jackson, Liz Ogbu
- Description:
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Under the leadership of Lisa Jackson, Apple's environment and social VP and former head of the EPA, the company is already carbon neutral within their own corporate and retail boundaries. By 2030, Apple hopes to extend carbon neutrality to their supply chain and consumers. In conversation with urbanist and spatial justice activist Liz Ogbu, Jackson shares thoughts on leadership, tech, the environment and building a green economy.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 05:54
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