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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bowl rings)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So In this presentation we are \Ngoing discuss the Path of Sutra.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will look at how Sutra enforms monastic\Nlife and the advantages of monastic life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are going to look at the refuge vows\Nmay be taken by lay practitioners.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we'll also look at the types of \Nmeditations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are done in Sutric tradition,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are different from \Nthe ones in Tantra and in Dzogchen.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Geshe la, perhaps we could start out \Nwith talking about just the view and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conduct of Sutra. How would you describe\Nthe view and the conduct of Sutra?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Sutra there are 5 poisons, and \Nthe 5 poisons have the 5 antidotes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The antidotes can\Ndestroy the 5 poisons.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Can you tell us what the\N5 poisons are?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Attachment, anger, ignorance,\Npride, and jealousy are the 5 poisons.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Sutra they say that these are the \N5 poisons, and you don't touch them,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need an antidote for them. Destroy from\Nthe root and throw out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there is a poisoned tree, with this \Npoison the tree will grow up.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to take it out from the root and\Nthrow out, otherwise it will destroy us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same as in the West. There are medicines,\Nand description: away from the child.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the child touches and eats it,\Nit is a posion for the child.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Right, So you want to keep it \Naway from the children.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, keep it away from the children.\NSutra looks like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So we try to avoid negative \Nactions, negative thoughts,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative speech, and we also try to\Ncultivate the virtuous activities.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, cultivate virtous things.\NAlso they say, if there is a posion
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the poison is destroyed, good things\Nwould come out. In Sutra they think that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I guess in one way you could say that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sutra is the basis of moral behavior\Nin the Bön tradition.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. In Sutra they talk more about\Ndisciplines.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the monks' life there are a lot of\Ndisciplines.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It all comes from the Sutra.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking the outside the Sutra is good.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inner you practice Dzogchen and Tantric,\Nouter you practice Sutra.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John) : Good. I was going to ask you \Nabout this, because many people in the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,West first encounter Dzogchen practice, \Nbefore they really studied Sutra.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course Dzogchen tells us that\Neverything is perfect as it is. Right?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Single taste, right?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it also gives you a lot of freedom\Nin your conduct.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet we see that great Dzogchen\Npractitioners such as Yongdzin Rinpoche or
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His Holiness and of course yourself
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are still continuing to practice \Nthe life of the monk. Right?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why do people continue to practice \Nand observe all of these moral conducts,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also practice Dzogchen?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are two ways to practice Dzogchen.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Dzogchen there are Tantric \Npractitioners.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This Dzogchen is common for everyone who\Npractices.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before Nyame Sherab Gyaltsen there\Nwas only Tantric practitioner,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dzogchen practitioner or a Sutric \Npractitioner.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were only single lineages \Nof Sutra,Tantra and Dzogchen.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before that they did not combine\NSutric and Tantric, or Dzogchen.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Nyame Sherab Gyaltsen, second Buddha\Nof the Bön, he combined them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outer monk, inner Dzogchen and Tantric.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also Dzogchen can be practiced by\Nlay people too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sutric [vows of monks and nuns] cannot be\Npracticed by lay practitioners.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are different types of \NSutric practices,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lay level Sutra practices and Sutric \Npractices for monks are different.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monks need to take a lot of vows. Lay\Npeople do not need that kind of vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): You know I heard Yongdzin Rinpoche\Nsaying one time that he preferred to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue practicing in the moral way of \Nthe Sutra, because it does not confuse
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people too and give people the wrong\Nidea about behaviour.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So you are trying to set \Na good example for other people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, if you show the good example,\Nthen people will follow that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you show the bad example,\Nthe student will follow that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teacher need a better discipline than \Nthe student. It's more important.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Why do monk and nuns take \Nmany vows as part of their path?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the advantage of taking\Nall these vows?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there are 250 vows for monks\Nis that right?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. 250 vows. \NMonks take 2 types of vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is when they take 25 vows, and\Nafter that we take 250 vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the first 25 vows are for the\Nnovious monks,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the 250 are for the full\Nordination of a monk?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take the 25 vows then\Nyou become a monk.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before that you are not a monk.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are more disciplined, more than\Nlay people. Lay people do not have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[the same level of] discipline. \NThey can put in discipline [when needed].
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go to an office, they have a\Ndiscipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go the school they have\Na rule for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the monks in the monastery\Nalso need disciplines.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say that monks are better than\Nlay people. Why are they better?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they have vows and they are\Nmore disciplined.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is about disciplining your behaviour\Nand disciplining your mind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which makes your practice stronger.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Discipline in the daily practice and\Ndiscipline for when you go out,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way you talk, the way you do [things \Nor the way you act]
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything that needs to be\Nunder discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course all these vows that the \Nmonks and nuns take
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also help tame the ego. Like for\Ninstance the monks are always
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wearing the robes, and nothing else. \NAnd you always cut the hair.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in these ways we avoid becoming\Nproud of our appearance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess that's one of the reasons.\NOr are there other reasons?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. This colour we call the spiritual\Ncolour.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Red, yellow, blue we call them spiritual\Ncolours.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now also black and white, \Nwe call normal colour.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wear the spiritual colour.\NWe do not wear the fancy things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look in your house and you have a\Nlot of different shirts, T-shirts,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different jackets. This jacket for the \Nparty, cocktail party.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This jacket for something else, \Nwedding party, this one is for the office.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lot of different shoes, pants, different\Njackets and shirts that we do not have.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have 2 or 3 clothes. For party we wear\Nthis one, for monastery we wear that one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever we go out we wear that one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are satisfied. Satisfaction.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You [lay people] are not satisfied. \NEspecially girls, they go the mall,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are buying every time,\Nkeep wanting more and more.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Attachment?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Attachment, desire. Every year there\Nis a new fashion, they want it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The things from last year are no \Nmore of use.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only the girls do this, \Nmany man do it too, you know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh yes. I think that girls do it\Nmore than men.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Possible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shopping, shopping. Girls have a lot to shop.\NTheir shopping chakra is open. (laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We call it the shopping chakra.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way if you go to mall there is a lot\Nof girls' cloth, more than men.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's showing that the girls\Nare doing more shopping.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): One of the vows that monks \Nand nuns take is of course not to have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relationship, no family basically. What\Nis the advantage of not having a family?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because many people think that family is \Nwonderful. It's very warm, very loving.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why do monks and nuns choose not to \Nhave a family, not to have children?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These days it's easy to give an example, \Nin the past time it was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a different answer. These times we would \Nsay population control (laughs).
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Easy to say that it's population control.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at the Tibetan people. \NThe population is not big.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't need to say population control.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are already control\Nbecause of the nuns and the monks.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the texts they say we make\Nrelationships because of the attachment.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): We have very strong attachments.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Strong attachment. So because of this we \Ndo not have attachments.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also that's why we don't have family.\NIf you have a family, you need to spend
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of time for that. That time takes\Nus away from our mediation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doing the virtuous thing, or you\Nneed to spend time in the family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We monks have a lot of time to do the \Npractice, because we don't have family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That's right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Saving time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, and also if you have a family, you \Nhave to generate a lot of money somehow,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support this family. Again, this takes\Nus away from the spiritual practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also you need to take care of wife, child\Nand also money, time, and everything.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way it's reducing the practice time.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you just making your life simpler and\Nsimpler and more focused on the practice,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more focused on the teachings.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. More focused on the \Nteachings and meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you live in the community of the \Nmonastery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you are supported by all the\Nother monks and nuns.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think that all the monks are Dharma\Nbrothers, and the nuns are Dharma sisters.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have a family life, we have\NDharma brothers and sisters, as we call.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This seems like a very wonderful way\Nof living.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Then you [lay people] are saving \Nmoney. Also you have health insurance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As monks, we don't have it. We don't save\Nmoney, we don't have insurance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't think about that. \NWe just got food today, and it's fine.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not thinking about putting things\Naway for tomorrow.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mainly we focus - the dialectic school - \Njust focuses on the philosophy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then also in meditation there are 2 groups\Nin the monastery.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is the meditation group and the other\None is the dialectic, philoshopic group.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we just focus on that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go to a monk's room, \Nthere is nothing. It's very simple.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Simple life. Simple is good.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. (laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So lay practitioners do have the \Npossibility of taking refuge vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, sure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it's possible for lay people\Nto take some of these simple vows,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and simplify their lives, and also guide
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their moral discipline\Nas a lay practitioner.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Moral discipline is very important,\Nand lay practitioners also take the vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are 4 lay vows. First is\Nkilling life. Don't kill anyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): No harm.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No harm.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone harms you, how much suffer does \Nthis harm cause for you?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the same for others. \NDon't harm anyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Tibetan words)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second is don't steal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yeah. Don't steal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Actually is it going a little\Nbit further than that? Not to take what
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You should not take what was not\Ngiven to you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Anything not given to you, \Nyou do not take it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That's right. So if you see\Na 100 dollar bill laying on floor,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't take it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't take it. If you take it, then \Nyou can put a note somewhere with
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your contact that you found it.\NYou can give information.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the next vow is to refrain from\Nfalse and idle speech.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So in other words we always tell\Nthe truth.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): And we also don't gossip.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, don't gossip.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Or say negative words about\Npeople.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also avoid sexual misconduct, as the\Nforth vow.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sexual misconduct is harming a lot\Nothers too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't marry a woman, if you have\Na girlfriend who is already married
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a boyfriend who already married, than\Ndon't do the sexual misconduct.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you had a sexual contact with somebody \Nelse's wife and the husband notices it,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it destroys the husband's heart.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Sure, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also some girls have a contact with\Nsomebody else's husband.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the wife notices, there would \Nbe a lot of fight at home.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It comes back to the very first\Nvow, when we don't harm anyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, don't harm anyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So harming is not only on the\Nphysical level, but also on the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotional level. Or the mental level.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So any sort of sexual behaviour that \Nwe would do and cause someone some pain,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some harm, that should be avoided.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of the lay people's vow.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Now there is also the \Npossibility to take some vows for
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't use any intoxication, such as \Nalcohol, or something like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that correct?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Alcohol (Tibetan words)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take 5 vows then it includes\Nnot taking alcohol.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If lay people take 4 vows, than\Nit's not included.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So you have the possibility of\Ntaking a different set of refuge vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): But you have to take the basic\Nfour
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're going to take the refuge vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can take the five. Because there \Nis also a possibility, I think, of taking
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some dietary restricitions. Either about\Nno meat or no onions, or garlic.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. There are not root ones.\NThere are vows that are root vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are vows that are branch vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you cut the branch, the tree will not\Ndie.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you cut the root of the tree,\Nthe tree will die.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you break one of the root vows, then\Nmonks are not monks anymore
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lay people also take we call the \N"genyen" (Tibetan word), so if they break
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there is no more "genyen" too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): These first 4 are considered to \Nbe the root vows:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's not harming other living \Ncreatures,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refraining from taking that, \Nwhich is not given,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we refrain from sexual misconduct and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we refrain from false and idle speech.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, these 4 are for the lay people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the alcohol. If you drink alcohol\Nlimitless, you drink it with no limit,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you get drunk, you'll be doing\Nsomething wrong.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Sure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way it's very strict for monks.\NThey are not allowed to drink alcohol.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Because we loose control.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or loose our good judgement. Or we loose \Nour moral discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course it's not just alcohol, \Nbut any sort of drugs or anything else
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we become inebriated. Same principle.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same principle, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It's not restricted to just\Nalcohol.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, some lamas give the refuge vows\Nvery frequently, but I've heard that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tenzin Rinpoche said that he prefers\Nnot to give these very often because
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's better not to take the vow than\Ntake it and then break it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So one should be very careful,\Nif one is really serious if they're going
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take the vows or not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you take a refuge vow from the lama\Nyou need to consider
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that lama is your is your teacher. \NYou have to think about that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some day if the lama is doing something\Nlittle bit wrong, you may say:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh I don't want to contact any more\Nthis lama.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the refuge vow is broken.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So when you take that refuge vow\Nfrom a teacher you have the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiritual connection.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, you have the spiritual connection.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You always need to think of him \Nas your spiritual teacher.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it seems that these\Nrefuge vows though are a wonderful way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to simplify are own lives as lay\Npractitioners because, of course if
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we tell the truth, if we don't harm\Nother people and so on,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it leads to a much happier life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take the refuge vows,\Nthis life is more useful.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Refuge vows are not these\Nfour [previous vows].
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone can take refuge vows.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Taking refuge in the lama\NTaking refuge in the Buddha
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Taking refuge in Buddha's speech\NTaking refuge in Boddhisattva.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the refuge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So you are taking refuge in\Nthe sources of enlightenment.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, that's the refuge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's an other thing if you take\Nthe 4 vows or 5 vows,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we call the "genyen" (Tibetan).
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it's two different sets of \Nrefuge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, first the refuge vow, and then comes\Nthe "genyen".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then monks have 2 types of vows :\N"tsantsug" and "gelong" (Tibetan)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Do the monks and the nuns take\Nthe same vows?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost the same.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): In the Sutric system not only\Ndo we avoid these negative behaviours,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for instance we do not lie, but we also\Ntry to cultivate the positive,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the virtuous conduct within ourselves.\NWhich are referred to as the paramitas,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the perfections. Right?\NSo let's talk about that a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have list here with the 10 paramitas,\Nmaybe you could explain us a little bit,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's the importance of \Neach one of these.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first one is, how would you say\NTibetan? "sByin-pa" ?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"sByin-pa", yes. Generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So we try to cultivate\Ngenerosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the advantage of\Ncultivating generosity?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are 2 types of generosity. One is \Nwhen physically you can give something to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who doesn't have it.\NWe can be generous and give food for
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody who doesn't have enough\Nto eat. Those people are hungry,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those people are thirsty. If you give \Nfood to them, if you give drink to them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a generosity too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is generosity according to the\Nteaching?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to the teaching generosity \Nmeans very big things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lot of suffering in\Nthis Samsara.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Giving teaching to change the mind,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of teaching, if you give it.\NThis is a generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So when we share the Dharma \Nwith others it a great generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If senior students help junior students\Nin the Dharma things,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some have a lot of suffering\Nthey can not control
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't know how to control,\Nand then senior student teaches to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do meditation. Then you can guide the \Nmeditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can teach the Dharma prayer.\NThis is all generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So our Dharma brothers and \Nsisters in our sangha
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are great support for us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here at Ligmincha in summer and autumn\Nhundreds of people come to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rinpoche's teaching. They all come at the\Nsame time and share things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some are new students,\Nsome are old, or senior students.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Senior students share their experience\Nand everything. That's generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Hopefully without pride.\N(laughing).
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, pride like\N"I'm the teacher, l have more knowledge
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than the other one". Sometimes there is\Na lot of pride, when people are thinking
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have knowledge". I have a lot of\Nexperience. Don't think like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather think that "I've learned many\Nyears, I have a knowledge. They are new
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm generously helping the new\Nstudent". That is the best, it's generous.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That's wonderful.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the second paramita we've\Nalready talked a little bit about,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's the ethical discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Discipline, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): We keep our ethics pure and clear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Discipline. There are a lot of\Ndiscipline. Monks have disciplines.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lay people have disciplines.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During the teaching time you have\Ndiscipline. You put timetables:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monday at 9 the teaching is starting\Nand at 10.30 there is a break.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Following all the disciplines, \Nis a discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Monks have discipline, all\Nthe community has discipline.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you follow all the disciplines,\Neverybody is happy for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one is angry. Discipline\Nhelps develop patience.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yes, I mean that's the beauty \Nof moral conduct and ethical conduct,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it leads to happiness within\Nourselves and happiness in others.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it gives happiness for both sides.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the third paramita is patience.\NNow we could all use more of this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. (Laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Patience is the most important one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially patience in the case of \Nhusband and wife.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Or anyone in the family.\N(laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or anyone in the family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mostly husband and wife, if they\Nspent long time, more than 10 years,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together after that they\Ncan loose patience often.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the start when they were girlfriends\Nand boyfriends,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had a lot of patience.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After marriage they loose the patience.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have the patience, if someone is angry,\Ndon't respond immediately.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say, just listen, listen.\NIf you put wood on the fire,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fire becomes bigger and bigger.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you put gas on the fire,\Nit gets very big.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you respond immediately, than\Nthe anger, the fire will come out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So just be patient and just wait.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just be patient, and wait, and just \Nlisten. Don't respond immediately.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If somebody is angry, the other side needs\Nmore space.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More space. Space helps.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Space helps in many things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, in many things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking in the space you can see lot\Nof things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Space holds everything. Good and bad, \Neverything. Space doesn't bother.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the next of the paramitas is\Nvirtuous effort, being diligent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or I guess the Tibetan term is \N"brTson-'grus".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"brTson-'grus", yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do virtuous things, if you\Ndo practice, you need that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Immediately you can not run [away from] \Nthat one you have continually spend time
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do it continually, more and more\Nyou need to practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So you should do things well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So we shouldn't do things \Nhalf way. If we do it, we should do it
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very fully and completely.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also we give example: (Tibetan words)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the fire is on the hair, then you need\Nto do everything that is possible to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put out the fire.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also grass burns slowly, \Nand then burns everything
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me give you another example.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every books they have it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also in the West you have the story of\Nthe rabbit and the tortoise.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Oh the rabbit and the tortoise.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Oh yes. Where the rabbit goes very\Nquickly, but it goes down to sleep,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eventually the tortoise wins because\Nit slow and steady, but diligent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it looks like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So have your diligents to complete\Nyour task.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like a turtle.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it's the same story in \NTibetan. That's interesting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So well the next one is pretty\Nobvious: meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So we should have our meditation\Npractice, and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be regular in our meditation practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meditation. When you meditate you\Nbecome happy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you suffer, if you have a problem\Nyou can meditate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is so many different ways to\Nmeditate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can meditate on emptiness, you can \Nmeditate on impermanence,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you are on a higher level, you can\Npractice Dzogchen,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Natural state of the mind, you can do that\Nkind of meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you meditate, meditations feels good,\Nright?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Meditation brings us joy, brings \Nus equanimity,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it said that it brings us the four \Ninmeasurables: love, joy, compassion and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equanimity. It leads to a wonderful\Npositive life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes it's possible that meditation would\Nbring that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meditation is medicine for the mind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yes, it is.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the 6th paramita is confidence,\Nor (Tibetan word)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Confidence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So self confidence? Is this what\Nwe are talking about?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, self confidence is very good,\Nself confidence if you practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also too much confidence in not so good.\NIt becomes pride.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Self confidence is for example when\NI know that I have the capabilty of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaching other people. Teaching is to help\Nthe others.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That kind of confidence is good.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Too much confidence is not so good.\NThen comes pride.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pride is one of the poisons too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it always that balance of \Nconfidence and pride
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to make sure. Too much confidence\Nmight lead to pride.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm the teacher. I have the knowledge." \NThat's pride.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Confidence is a little bit different from\Nthat.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have the capability to teach.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know these things, I have the capability\Nto teach.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will not hold it to myself, I will teach\Nother people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This teaching will help the others.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That kind of "nuba" (Tibetan word)\Ncan help.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course it also an be that\Nconfidence it's more basic than
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a teacher, just being confident that\NI'm a good person.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this is something many people \Nin the West have challenge with, because
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe they had some experience when \Nthey were a child and someone told them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they were bad. And then they don't \Nhave this positive image of themselves.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's very good to have this confidence\Nin yourself,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are essentially a Buddha, within.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. I can see this confidence in children sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When here in the West children are\Ntaught in the school
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to talk with in front of \Nother people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the child level they are teaching.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whenever they got a chance they talk,\Nthey are not shaking, they have a lot
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of confidence to talk with the people.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at the children from India or\Nfrom Nepal coming to the USA,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are a little bit shy. They don't have\Na confidence for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the West children, sometime I feel,\Nhave so much confidence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So " Ok, I will do it" They never say: \NI don't know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say: " I know that".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone tells them "don't do that", they \Nsay: "yeah, I know that".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is too much confidence. (laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yeah. Again it's the balance of\Nconfidence versus pride.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, confidence and pride need to \Nbe balanced.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the 7th paramita is\Ncompassion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course this is a very important part\Nof the teachings.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Compassion "snying rje" (Tibetan )
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"“nyen gye manu pala tsa" (Tibetan)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone does not have\Nenough food to eat
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have compassion for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the compassion we can be\Ngenerous.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yes, you can show your generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, you can show generosity.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If an animal is injured, you feel\Ncompassion for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After you have compassion, you take\Naction.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to take it to the hospital.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take care for that.\NThat is compassion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course we should show \Ncompassion for eveyone that we know,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone that we meet,\Neveryone in our family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because everyone is experiencing\Nsuffering.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, everyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoever has suffering you can have\Ncompassion for that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So everyone is experiencing it,\Nso we should have compassion for everyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So the 8th paramita is the\Naspirational prayer or monlam.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you could give us an example.\NWhat would be an aspirational prayer?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aspirational prayer we are doing it every\Nyear.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,," I wish you a very happy...". This is an\Naspiration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): "May you have a happy year"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish you a very happy year.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish you a better life or something\Nlike that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a monlam (Tibetan word). \NAn aspiration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): May your life be filled with\Nhappiness.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Every year is like today. Every year \Nbe healthy, have good health.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is all monlam, (Tibetan word).\NAn aspiration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): We are wishing that someone have\Na better life, a good life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wishing anything, wishing is a monlam,\N(Tibetan word), aspiration.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So this is connected with the\Ngenerosity and the compassion too,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we are hoping that others\Nenjoy a beautiful life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the 9th is skillful means, which is in \Nthe dedication. Or "top" (Tibetan word)?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Top" is the method. "Top" means idea.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Careful thinking maybe.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Careful thinking, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Careful planning, careful\Nexecution.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, careful thinking. Helping through\Ndifferent ideas is a "top" (Tibetan word)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yes. Many times we have the\Nmotivation to help someone
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or improve something, but we are not\Ncareful about it and maybe we are
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rushing too quickly. So this is a careful,\Nskillful way of helping others.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, skillfully helping others.\NThat is "top".
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): The final one is \N"Sherab" (Tibetan) or wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wisdom, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): We all could use more of this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do we mean by wisdom\Nexactly here?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many different ways that\Nwisdom might be interpreted.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wisdom is something like intelligence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you learn something, you need \Nmore wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone learns really quickly. \NThey have a lot of wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For someone it takes time to learn. \NThere's less wisdom there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone has a lot of experience, \Nlot of knowledge,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we call a lot of wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lot of wisdom to carry\Nall the things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): There is this one aspect of \Nwisdom having intellectual knowledge,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or sharpness of the mind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, sharpness of the mind also.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): But there is also isn't there a\Nwisdom that just arises from the heart?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like the wisdom of emptiness,\Nor the mirrorlike wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking of the five of these wisdoms.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's more about the mediative experience.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. When you do the meditation,\Nfirst level it will be difficult to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do the meditation. When you do it again \Nand again, more wisdom comes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more knowledge comes out.\NBetter knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): More wisdom. \NWe just say it, more wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More and more wisdom comes out,\Nmore good things come out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More experience comes out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): The wisdom and experiences\Narise directly from the meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not necessarily just throught thought.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. If you look at the Tantric \Nmasters, earlier masters,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they meditate, more experience comes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they thought to write it down.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Through the thinking, there is all\Nwe call "gurma" (Tibetan)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Experience telling to people
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That arises directly from their\Nmeditative experience
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the text that they are writing, \Nflows naturally.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Flows naturally yes.\NFlows out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at one text\Nagain and again and again,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more and more knowledge comes out\Nfrom that text.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that you don't need to look\Nin a book.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you start immediately everything\Ncomes out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is more knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It seems like that the Sutric\Nmethod is avoiding all these negativities
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like lying, sexual misconduct, and \Nstealing and so forth,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in combination with the \Ncultivation of these paramitas.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leads to very happy life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it leads to a happy life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): And it serves as a very clear\Nguide for our behaviour.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you do all these things,\Nit leads to a very good life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It does lead to a good life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the meditational methods in Sutra\Nare many times are analytical meditations,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the meditation of impermanence \Nfor instance, where we are using the mind
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reflect on the truth, the inner most \Ntruth of something like
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what can we find that's truly permanent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we think, we are using the mind to\Nthink about these things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is quite different from\NDzogchen meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also meditation on impermanence helps \Nthe practice too.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Of course
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are young, you are not thinking\Nof the impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are energetic, you have power,\Nyou think that this life is forever,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don't want to meditate.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also Sutra is saying that our life is \Nimpermanent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): No one is lives forever.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Children, boys and girls will become \Nteenagers, then they will be men and women
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after that wifes and husbands.\NThen their child call them parents,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one day they will be called\Ngrandpa and grandma,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it's time to go.\NLife will be finished.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That way it's all changing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's impermanent. We should think \N"now I need to do the virtuous things."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It changes our mind when we \Nunderstand impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This helps us to do the practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Give us motivation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Motivation, yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Because we realize that nothing is\Npermanent in this life.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also is Sutra there is the practice of \Nemptiness.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If search for the table, you find out\Nthat there is not a solid table there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you take it piece by piece,\Nthen there is no table.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are just giving name.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Yes, that's one of the classic \Nanalytical meditations. You meditate
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upon a table, - because people might not\Nbe familiar with this meditation, -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you try to find a table. You look at\Nevery element of the table:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it the leg? Is it the top? \NIs it the side? Where is the table?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you find that there is no table.\NIt's only our mind.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this analytical process leads to\Ninside, it leads to a new wisdom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sutric teachings says that we are giving\Nname for things,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are not not solid from the outside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We give names to all the things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or when the boy is called by his mother\Nand father my son.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wife says: my husband. Child says: \Nmy father.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody is giving names.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That's right.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are not solid from\Noutside.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It's always changing. From every\Ndifferent perspective.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): I remember that one of the \Nteachings I received on this was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a monk was visiting me as a house\Nguest, and he start giving this teaching
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on emptiness and we were eating pizza. \NHe held up the pizza and said:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show me the pizza! Is it the mushroom?\NIs it the olive? Is it the tomato?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, we could find no pizza, while we were\Neating the pizza.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because this pizza was in our mind,\Na name. Just a name we create.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you ask: where is the tomato? \NIs the tomato the colour?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is the tomato the shape?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no tomato. (laughing)\NNothing is there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Nothing is there. Empty.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Empty. This Sutric practice leads\Nto the realization of emptiness.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So in the Sutric analytical\Nprocess we are using the mind to think.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are using thoughts.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While in the Dzogchen practice we are\Ntrying to liberate the thought.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, to liberate the thought.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So it's a very different way to of\Nworking with the thoughts.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dzogchen says if thought comes\Ndon't chase after thought.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just leave it there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you leave them there, thoughts\Nwill dissolve themselves.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ok, we need an antidote for that.\NYou need to take it out from the root.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): With the Sutric analytic approach\Nwe use the thought,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we don't try just liberate the thought.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes we don't liberate it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Because throught the thinking,\Nand through the sharp, clear mind,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is really emphasized in the\Ndebate especially in the monastery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can reach this insight.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): So this meditation over\Nimpermanence we were discussing,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is found in the Ngöndro, which is one of\Nthe foundation mediation practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's considered to be very-very\Nfundamental.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, it is fundamental. The practice of\Nimpermanence is a fundamental
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practice for everyone.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a foundation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): It really changes your life\Nwhenever
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have this understanding\Nof impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the same is true for the \Nmeditation on emptiness.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two are considered to be a very\Nfundamental meditation.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at these practices, \Nsometimes we are powerful,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes we are down.\NWe are poor, then some years later
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we become rich. \NThis is all impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): That's wonderful.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, thank you very much Geshe la\Nfor this explanation of these
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sutric meditations.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the next part of the this course\Npeople going to get to enjoy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a teaching by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche\Non impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then a meditation guided by Rinpoche\Non impermanence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. This will be very helpful, he will \Nexplain everything in detail.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His English is a wonderful \NEnglish. Not like my English. (laughing)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): I think your English is very\Ngood.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): But this should have given you \Na very good taste of how we work
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these analytical meditations in the\NSutric way.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(John): Hope you have enjoyed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.