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Mary Heilmann: Abstract Painting | Art21 "Extended Play"

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    A couple of summers ago,
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    I was doing this painting called "Heaven."
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    It was a freely-painted,
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    gestural, non-objective painting.
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    I'm thinking it's my post-modern version
    of abstract expressionism.
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    And I'm reading the biography of de Kooning,
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    about how poor de Kooning sat in a chair
    for years,
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    trying to make a painting come out right.
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    And I'm painting on my fake abstract expressionist,
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    doing exactly the same thing:
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    Looking at it.
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    Going, poking around at it a little bit.
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    Sitting down.
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    And I'm reading the book and I'm thinking,
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    "Get a life, de Kooning!"
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    And then I'm thinking,
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    "Oh my gosh, this is hard to do!"
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    And I stopped at that point.
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    [LAUGHS]
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    When I started painting,
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    my painting was coming out of sculpture,
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    and I was using acrylic paint almost as a
    sculptural material.
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    I would paint straight up and down
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    and then straight sideways,
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    covering up the brushstrokes.
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    Not sanding them out,
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    but just trying to make it
    not expressionistic at all.
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    Then at a certain point
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    I put on my masking tape and
    paint all over the place,
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    so that you'd have this hard-edge thing
    and this gestural thing
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    going on at the same time.
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    That was a major breakthrough.
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    You get both.
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    You'd get it both ways.
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    You get Albers and de Kooning
    in the same painting.
Title:
Mary Heilmann: Abstract Painting | Art21 "Extended Play"
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Video Language:
English
Team:
Art21
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"Extended Play" series
Duration:
02:00

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