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If I forgave,
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and I did Mengele, Hitler;
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let's say that I would have
forgiven them
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in 19...50.
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19...55, ten years
after liberation.
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Would Mengele, Hitler, Himmler,
any of them,
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know, or care?
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No.
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Who else would have it
really affected?
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- You.
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Me.
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So, let's get to that idea,
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to understand: Why
is the forgiveness?
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And what would it have done
to me?
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Could I change anything
of what happened?
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The tragedy, could I change it?
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Could anybody change it?
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If I climbed to Mount Everest,
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and screamed on the top
of my voice,
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could anybody
do anything?
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So, basically,
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once a tragic thing happens,
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or anything, good or bad,
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you cannot change it.
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Does any victim deserve
to live without pain
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that other people, or life,
imposed on them?
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Yes.
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Every person should be able
to live without hurting.
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I didn't deserve anything
to be treated that way.
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So my question is:
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If I deserve to live
without the pain,
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how on earth
am I going to get there?
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The only thing that I came up with,
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it was accidental that I
discovered forgiveness.
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That, by forgiving,
I am not forgetting,
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because I keep
talking about it;
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but I am no longer hurting.
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I can talk about it without pain,
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and, also, it makes me feel like
I have risen above the pain,
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because I can discuss it,
but not be destroyed by it.
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So it's a very interesting idea,
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that to conquer the pain,
without really ever --
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I never hurt anybody.
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So, why on earth can't I do it?
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My solution does not --
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I don't punish anybody,
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I don't send anybody to jail,
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I don't kill anybody,
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I don't denounce anybody.
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I am just forgiving, to heal myself.
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And I cannot see
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how on earth that can be wrong.