[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.18,0:00:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[DAVID GOLDBLATT] We're headed west-- Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.06,0:00:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the moment we're heading south-- Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.44,0:00:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we're going to the west of the city\Nto a suburb called Fietas. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.62,0:00:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fietas was a diverse community\Nwith a large Indian population.] Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.92,0:00:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[During apartheid its residents\Nwere forcibly relocated.] Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.94,0:00:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's official name is Pageview, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.70,0:00:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it came to be known\Nby its residents as Fietas. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.10,0:00:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one knows now for sure\Nwhere the name came from Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.85,0:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it has any meaning--\Nwhat it means-- Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.00,0:00:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that was the fond name\Nfor the area. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.76,0:00:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I started photographing here in '76, Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.42,0:00:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the community was still largely intact. Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.86,0:01:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the Twenty-Third Street mosque. Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.94,0:01:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The houses here consist of\Nsome of the original Indian houses Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.68,0:01:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then those that were built by the\NDepartment of Community Development. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.22,0:01:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were wonderful in our ability\Nto invent the meaning of words. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.15,0:01:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Department of Community Development\Ncame here and destroyed their community. Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.26,0:01:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, these here were built by the\NDepartment of Community Development. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.76,0:01:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as you see, they are now little fortresses, Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.38,0:01:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as are so many of our houses in Johannesburg. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.14,0:01:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A working class White community,\Nnext door to this, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.66,0:01:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agitated for their removal. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.32,0:02:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whites didn't want people of color\Nliving next door to them. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.98,0:02:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was as crude as that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.34,0:02:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened here is typical of what\Nhappened in almost every town in South Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.98,0:02:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--[SALMA PATEL] You went from behind,\Nand you could buy meat. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.86,0:02:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[LAUGHS] Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.02,0:02:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--I had an amazing childhood,\Nyou know that! Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.52,0:02:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember David coming on a bicycle-- Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.72,0:02:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming and cycling. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.88,0:02:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I used to wonder,\N"Why does he do this?" Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.74,0:02:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to school then. Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.76,0:02:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw this man photographing\Nall these ruins. Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.98,0:02:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In my little world in those days,\Nthis was home, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.02,0:02:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't really understand the full\Nimplications of forced removals. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.74,0:03:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of the apartheid regime's\Nracist ideologies, Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.64,0:03:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this area was destroyed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.11,0:03:11.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fietas Museum is a very good way\Nto understand land dispossession, Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.74,0:03:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,destruction of family units,\Nand a community. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.04,0:03:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are Paul Weinberg's photographs. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.18,0:03:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul and I have a long history. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.79,0:03:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's walked this whole journey with me,\Nlike with David. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.53,0:03:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've known them for so many years. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.16,0:03:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These two photographers were very generous Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.91,0:03:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in just donating the pictures\Nto the Fietas Museum. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.92,0:03:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Had it not been for their photographs, Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.06,0:03:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we wouldn't have a pictorial record\Nof my forebearers Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.04,0:03:43.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my community. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.40,0:03:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This shows Fourteenth Street in its heyday. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.60,0:04:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you can see, it had the elements\Nthat are essential for good cities. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.06,0:04:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is:\Ndensity, diversity, and complexity. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.50,0:04:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a community of blended cultures. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.02,0:04:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's an Indian concept called,\N"upar makaan neeche dukaan," Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.26,0:04:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning living quarters upstairs\Nand trading premises downstairs. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.74,0:04:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very smart way of using space. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.86,0:04:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people that were\Nforcibly removed from this area-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.30,0:04:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in this particular street--\Nwere traders. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.92,0:04:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[GOLDBLATT] White people, Black people-- Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.56,0:04:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all kinds of people--\Nwould come from all over the area Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.24,0:04:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to shop here,\Non Fourteenth Street. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.98,0:04:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The streets were very narrow. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.35,0:04:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found that the best way of coming here\Nto photograph was to ride a bicycle. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.68,0:04:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came in on a bicycle with a\Ncouple of panniers on it Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.91,0:04:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that I could carry\Na four-by-five view camera, Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.19,0:04:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a Hasselblad, Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.64,0:05:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some film, and a lightweight tripod. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.40,0:05:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would come in here and photograph\Npeople, shops-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.66,0:05:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever I wanted. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.08,0:05:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to know Ozzie Docrat, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.02,0:05:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the Indian men who had a shop here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.20,0:05:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a shop just down the road here\Nwhich was called the "Subway Grocers." Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.10,0:05:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there was a big cricket match--\Ninternationally-- Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.42,0:05:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would put the score outside\Non the sidewalk, Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.18,0:05:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that people coming by could see\Nwhat the score was. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.92,0:05:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew the tram drivers who came past. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.72,0:05:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not impossible for a\Ntram driver to stop his tram Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.38,0:05:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and go in there and say,\N"Ozzie, you got the score wrong, man!" Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.22,0:05:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So-and-so is out now." Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.66,0:05:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a very popular place\Nand he was a very popular man. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.18,0:05:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His home was here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.73,0:05:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.98,0:05:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the core of the house. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.60,0:06:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was reinforced concrete, because it\Nneeded to support the water tank. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.48,0:06:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the front-end loaders came in here\Nto destroy everything in 1977, Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.44,0:06:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't push this over. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.34,0:06:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's reinforced concrete. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.90,0:06:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it remains here now as a\Ncrazy monument to apartheid. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.76,0:06:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had to move to Lenasia, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.31,0:06:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is the Indian suburb\Nthat was set up outside the city Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.20,0:06:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to absorb these people\Nwho were displaced. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.84,0:06:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government built the\Nso-called "Oriental Plaza"-- Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.48,0:06:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a shopping mall which\Nthey said would then Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.46,0:06:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,substitute for the shops that\Nthey were destroying here. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.18,0:06:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, it is was a Sunday Morning, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.78,0:06:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came riding here on my bicycle, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.84,0:06:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was Ozzie Docrat. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.94,0:06:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We greeted each other,\Nand I said to him, Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.72,0:06:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You know Mr. Docrat," Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.22,0:06:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I cannot tell you how ashamed I am\Nof what is being done here," Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.90,0:07:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"to you in my name, as a White voter." Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.74,0:07:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I said to him,\N"You know, I've got a problem," Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.88,0:07:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"because they're knocking down the buildings\Nand I can't remember what was there." Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.48,0:07:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Mr. Goldblatt," Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.34,0:07:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I feel as though I've been to the dentist," Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.25,0:07:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and I've had teeth extracted." Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.04,0:07:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And I run my tongue over the spaces," Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.89,0:07:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and I try to remember the shape\Nof what was there." Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.64,0:07:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an extraordinary statement.