WEBVTT 00:00:05.158 --> 00:00:06.899 If I forgave, 00:00:06.899 --> 00:00:09.092 and I did Mengele, Hitler; 00:00:09.092 --> 00:00:11.129 let's say that I would have forgiven them 00:00:11.129 --> 00:00:14.540 in 19...50. 00:00:14.540 --> 00:00:19.650 19...55, ten years after liberation. 00:00:19.650 --> 00:00:22.947 Would Mengele, Hitler, Himmler, any of them, 00:00:22.947 --> 00:00:24.778 know, or care? 00:00:24.778 --> 00:00:26.308 No. 00:00:26.308 --> 00:00:29.109 Who else would have it really affected? 00:00:29.109 --> 00:00:30.005 - You. 00:00:30.005 --> 00:00:31.589 Me. 00:00:31.589 --> 00:00:33.398 So, let's get to that idea, 00:00:33.398 --> 00:00:36.481 to understand: Why is the forgiveness? 00:00:36.481 --> 00:00:38.960 And what would it have done to me? 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:43.328 Could I change anything of what happened? 00:00:43.328 --> 00:00:45.709 The tragedy, could I change it? 00:00:45.709 --> 00:00:47.838 Could anybody change it? 00:00:47.838 --> 00:00:50.050 If I climbed to Mount Everest, 00:00:50.050 --> 00:00:52.190 and screamed on the top of my voice, 00:00:52.190 --> 00:00:54.319 could anybody do anything? 00:00:54.319 --> 00:00:55.498 So, basically, 00:00:55.498 --> 00:00:57.694 once a tragic thing happens, 00:00:57.694 --> 00:01:00.279 or anything, good or bad, 00:01:00.279 --> 00:01:03.588 you cannot change it. 00:01:03.588 --> 00:01:08.308 Does any victim deserve to live without pain 00:01:08.308 --> 00:01:13.339 that other people, or life, imposed on them? 00:01:13.339 --> 00:01:14.839 Yes. 00:01:14.839 --> 00:01:19.520 Every person should be able to live without hurting. 00:01:19.520 --> 00:01:23.210 I didn't deserve anything to be treated that way. 00:01:23.210 --> 00:01:25.579 So my question is: 00:01:25.579 --> 00:01:28.398 If I deserve to live without the pain, 00:01:28.398 --> 00:01:33.299 how on earth am I going to get there? 00:01:33.299 --> 00:01:35.730 The only thing that I came up with, 00:01:35.730 --> 00:01:39.950 it was accidental that I discovered forgiveness. 00:01:39.950 --> 00:01:44.299 That, by forgiving, I am not forgetting, 00:01:44.299 --> 00:01:47.018 because I keep talking about it; 00:01:47.018 --> 00:01:49.828 but I am no longer hurting. 00:01:49.828 --> 00:01:52.530 I can talk about it without pain, 00:01:52.530 --> 00:01:58.590 and, also, it makes me feel like I have risen above the pain, 00:01:58.590 --> 00:02:04.068 because I can discuss it, but not be destroyed by it. 00:02:04.068 --> 00:02:07.281 So it's a very interesting idea, 00:02:07.281 --> 00:02:12.220 that to conquer the pain, without really ever -- 00:02:12.220 --> 00:02:14.859 I never hurt anybody. 00:02:14.859 --> 00:02:17.969 So, why on earth can't I do it? 00:02:17.969 --> 00:02:20.521 My solution does not -- 00:02:20.521 --> 00:02:22.117 I don't punish anybody, 00:02:22.117 --> 00:02:23.982 I don't send anybody to jail, 00:02:23.982 --> 00:02:25.300 I don't kill anybody, 00:02:25.300 --> 00:02:28.350 I don't denounce anybody. 00:02:28.350 --> 00:02:31.498 I am just forgiving, to heal myself. 00:02:31.498 --> 00:02:32.891 And I cannot see 00:02:32.891 --> 00:02:35.528 how on earth that can be wrong.