0:00:11.600,0:00:15.920 I remember my mother bringing us [br]to the British Museum in London. 0:00:17.520,0:00:20.640 My mother's family was from Iraq. 0:00:21.600,0:00:24.640 She brought us immediately [br]to the Assyrian galleries 0:00:24.640,0:00:29.840 and into the room that had [br]the Lion Hunt of Ashurbanipal. 0:00:31.440,0:00:37.120 There's nothing cooler than being ten years old [br]and learning that this is the first comic book 0:00:37.120,0:00:39.360 and your people are responsible for it. 0:00:41.120,0:00:43.040 She turned to us and she said, 0:00:43.040,0:00:45.360 "What is it doing here?" 0:00:45.360,0:00:48.000 Which made us keenly aware that 0:00:48.000,0:00:51.760 these museums were not just [br]these polite reliquaries 0:00:51.760,0:00:55.280 for things that have been [br]exchanged amongst cultures-- 0:00:55.280,0:00:57.840 that these were violently extracted. 0:00:59.440,0:01:03.562 It was a museum, but it was also a crime palace. 0:01:05.145,0:01:08.218 [Michael Rakowitz: Haunting the West] 0:01:19.200,0:01:27.798 "The invisible enemy should not exist" is [br]this on-going work that I began in 2006. 0:01:28.557,0:01:31.360 In the aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, 0:01:31.360,0:01:36.079 eight-thousand-plus artifacts were [br]looted from the National Museum of Iraq. 0:01:37.520,0:01:42.800 I started to think about what it would mean [br]for those artifacts to come back as ghosts 0:01:42.800,0:01:45.772 to haunt Western museums. 0:01:48.800,0:01:52.274 This project has unfortunately grown to include 0:01:52.274,0:01:56.629 the archaeological sites that have [br]been devastated by groups like ISIS. 0:01:58.560,0:02:04.160 This installation is Room F in [br]the northwest palace of Nimrud. 0:02:04.160,0:02:06.960 When it was destroyed in 2015, 0:02:06.960,0:02:11.356 it was holding two hundred reliefs. 0:02:12.160,0:02:15.200 However, it originally had over [br]six hundred of these reliefs. 0:02:15.200,0:02:20.800 The majority of those reliefs [br]were excavated in the mid-1800s 0:02:20.800,0:02:25.000 and then sent to different Western institutions. 0:02:26.560,0:02:32.080 The West assigns value on the [br]objects from that part of the world 0:02:32.080,0:02:36.480 but it's not at all symmetrical [br]when you consider the way in which 0:02:36.480,0:02:40.927 there's been this devaluation of the [br]people that are from those places. 0:02:43.120,0:02:49.680 The reliefs are situated in accordance [br]with the original architectural footprint. 0:02:49.680,0:02:54.240 What this project seeks to do is [br]put the viewer into the position 0:02:54.240,0:02:59.600 of an Iraqi inside that palace [br]the day before ISIS destroyed it, 0:02:59.600,0:03:04.720 and to show how much of their [br]history they didn't have access to, 0:03:04.720,0:03:08.701 and the gaps that they were forced [br]to be looking at and looking through. 0:03:11.920,0:03:19.856 These artifacts were also forcibly removed the [br]way that my family was from my mother's homeland. 0:03:22.160,0:03:28.480 My mother's family left Iraq in 1947 0:03:28.480,0:03:34.480 as the result of the emergence of [br]nationalist ideologies in the Middle East. 0:03:34.480,0:03:39.072 The Iraqi Jews were kind of [br]in an impossible situation. 0:03:39.840,0:03:45.760 When they entered the U.S., there must have [br]been all kinds of pressures to assimilate. 0:03:45.760,0:03:49.837 Their assimilation story was not [br]one where they gave everything up. 0:03:50.400,0:03:54.640 My grandparents were like the first [br]installation artists that I ever met. 0:03:54.640,0:03:56.880 The house in Great Neck, Long Island, 0:03:56.880,0:03:59.840 everything that was on the floor was from Iraq. 0:03:59.840,0:04:02.720 Everything this was on the walls was from Iraq. 0:04:02.720,0:04:07.160 And what was coming out of the [br]kitchen was most definitely from Iraq. 0:04:16.960,0:04:19.760 When I was in my senior year of high school, 0:04:19.760,0:04:24.640 the first Gulf War happened [br]in front of my brothers and I. 0:04:26.480,0:04:28.080 My mother said to us, 0:04:28.080,0:04:32.000 "Do you know there's no Iraqi [br]restaurants in New York?" 0:04:32.000,0:04:40.127 What she was pointing out was that Iraqi culture [br]in the U.S. was not visible beyond oil and war. 0:04:42.880,0:04:46.320 As we were approaching another Iraq war, 0:04:46.320,0:04:50.880 I started a project that I could [br]collaborate with my mother on. 0:04:50.880,0:04:53.369 That became "Enemy Kitchen." 0:04:54.400,0:04:58.800 My mother distributed our family's recipes 0:04:58.800,0:05:01.894 and I would cook with these different groups. 0:05:02.000,0:05:03.040 --Make a little crater, 0:05:03.680,0:05:06.480 --and then you take a piece of the meat here, 0:05:06.480,0:05:07.982 --put it in the center... 0:05:08.720,0:05:13.920 "Enemy Kitchen" offered some kind [br]of opposition to the way in which 0:05:13.920,0:05:18.224 the war framed everything [br]when we spoke about Iraq. 0:05:20.480,0:05:27.036 I always talk about the one that happened [br]in 2006 with a group of school kids. 0:05:27.600,0:05:32.960 The schools that they were going to [br]had forbade a lot of the teachers 0:05:32.960,0:05:37.840 from speaking about the war directly in [br]their classes because so many of them 0:05:38.640,0:05:44.080 were connected to brothers and uncles--[br]and mothers and fathers-- 0:05:44.080,0:05:46.800 who were stationed in Iraq. 0:05:46.800,0:05:52.812 It was so unbelievably violent that [br]nobody ever thought to ask them 0:05:53.200,0:05:55.282 what they thought of the war. 0:05:56.560,0:06:01.680 Now "Enemy Kitchen" is a food truck [br]that's staffed by Iraqi chefs. 0:06:03.200,0:06:08.000 The sous chefs and servers [br]are American combat veterans 0:06:08.000,0:06:09.760 that served in Iraq. 0:06:09.760,0:06:12.367 Those stories are now mobilized. 0:06:19.520,0:06:23.680 The color schemes that my [br]studio and I have chosen, 0:06:23.680,0:06:27.120 it's a little bit like the [br]color returning to the body. 0:06:27.120,0:06:33.120 So there's a whole range of different [br]materials that one sees represented. 0:06:33.120,0:06:39.920 The anise tea bags have created the yellowish [br]palette for the clothing of this "apkallu." 0:06:39.920,0:06:43.120 This is one of my favorite colors. 0:06:43.120,0:06:47.680 This orange is actually an [br]orange that I grew up with: 0:06:47.680,0:06:52.320 the outside packaging of an apricot paste. 0:06:52.320,0:06:54.527 It was like the original Fruit Roll-Up. 0:07:00.640,0:07:02.784 If a ghost is going to properly haunt, 0:07:02.784,0:07:07.443 it has to appear differently than the [br]entity appeared when it was living. 0:07:11.120,0:07:15.440 These reliefs use the packaging [br]of Middle Eastern food stuffs. 0:07:15.440,0:07:19.680 Because of Homeland Security, for [br]anything that is coming from Iraq, 0:07:19.680,0:07:23.799 it would be too prohibitive [br]for somebody to import it. 0:07:24.080,0:07:28.880 A can of date syrup labeled [br]as being "product of Lebanon" 0:07:28.880,0:07:31.520 is actually processed in the Iraqi capital 0:07:31.520,0:07:35.780 and then it's driven to Lebanon where [br]it gets sold to the rest of the world. 0:07:37.680,0:07:44.320 The object in the museum holds its value [br]because it can tell you where it was from. 0:07:44.320,0:07:48.423 The date syrup not being able to [br]tell you where they were from, 0:07:48.423,0:07:52.347 that was the skin that these [br]artifacts should have to wear 0:07:52.347,0:07:54.565 when they come back as ghosts. 0:08:00.640,0:08:06.006 There's more than eight thousand [br]artifacts that are still at large. 0:08:06.640,0:08:11.280 Of those, we've made just a bit over nine hundred. 0:08:11.280,0:08:16.164 This is a project that is going [br]to outlive me and my studio. 0:08:17.920,0:08:18.962 --Hey! 0:08:19.680,0:08:20.939 --Salaam! 0:08:22.543,0:08:24.023 [ASSISTANT] --How are you? 0:08:25.151,0:08:26.613 [ALL LAUGH] 0:08:28.240,0:08:33.510 [ASSISTANT][br]--I prepped some wing spines at my house. 0:08:33.965,0:08:35.815 [RAKOWITZ][br]--Oh, that's beautiful, Denise! 0:08:38.240,0:08:43.600 Once the studio went into lockdown [br]as a result of the pandemic, 0:08:43.600,0:08:50.000 I was very adamant about making sure that [br]everybody in the studio was going to be okay. 0:08:50.320,0:08:53.840 I wanted them to be able to continue to work. 0:08:55.360,0:08:59.680 The assistants come for a visit every few weeks 0:08:59.680,0:09:02.650 and they pick up more materials. 0:09:07.920,0:09:11.600 --I'm currently working on this funerary bust. 0:09:12.400,0:09:17.760 --I've just started working on an artifact [br]that was originally from eastern Iraq. 0:09:17.760,0:09:23.262 --This is a figure from Mesopotamia, [br]specifically from the Khafaje region. 0:09:25.440,0:09:29.680 In this moment where we've lost [br]the close proximity to one another 0:09:29.680,0:09:32.766 and we're making these lost objects, 0:09:32.766,0:09:35.440 we still have these moments [br]where we can locate one another 0:09:35.440,0:09:37.379 and feel like we're not alone. 0:09:45.920,0:09:52.804 When I was nominated in 2015 for [br]the Fourth Plinth project in London, 0:09:53.920,0:09:58.796 ISIS attacked Nineveh and Nimrud. 0:09:59.280,0:10:03.840 The "lamassu" were basically reduced to pebbles. 0:10:05.680,0:10:10.800 I recognized the fact that I was going to [br]be working in public space on a pedestal-- 0:10:10.800,0:10:12.720 that this was the city of London, 0:10:12.720,0:10:14.880 the heart of empire-- 0:10:14.880,0:10:20.240 and a very short walk away [br]brings one to the British Museum, 0:10:20.240,0:10:23.440 that I had visited with my mother decades before, 0:10:23.440,0:10:26.483 where they have several "lamassu." 0:10:42.320,0:10:45.000 The Tate Modern had reached out to me 0:10:45.000,0:10:49.634 about the possibility of them [br]serving as a custodian for this work. 0:10:50.320,0:10:57.040 I did not want to somehow just repeat these [br]imperial museums being seen as caretakers. 0:10:57.760,0:11:02.800 I wanted the work to be [br]shared by an Iraqi museum. 0:11:03.920,0:11:08.411 It kept the problems of where [br]something belongs alive. 0:11:09.760,0:11:12.320 A diasporic sculpture with wings, 0:11:12.320,0:11:15.000 moving between two places, 0:11:15.000,0:11:18.480 representing the conditions of modern Iraqis, 0:11:18.480,0:11:20.586 where there's no fixed place. 0:11:24.000,0:11:28.240 If we're to have conversations about [br]what decolonization truly looks like, 0:11:28.800,0:11:31.419 it's accompanied by repair 0:11:31.419,0:11:34.080 and it's accompanied by accountability. 0:11:34.080,0:11:37.589 That work is actually something that's never done.