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Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.25,0:00:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when I made this book, I didn't think of it
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.09,0:00:07.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as something that would be difficult to read at all
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.86,0:00:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I imagine everybody who writes something difficult feels that way
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.86,0:00:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they send it out into the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.05,0:00:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the book is somewhat confusing because it has
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.33,0:00:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a three dimensional aspect.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.51,0:00:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see literally into the book.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.50,0:00:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should describe what the book is first.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.38,0:00:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About maybe three years ago, I got an email
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.00,0:00:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from someone I'd never heard of before
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.98,0:00:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying, I'm starting a new publishing house
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.78,0:00:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of art literary publishing house, and would you like to make a book? And I can't promise you...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.98,0:00:50.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a long list of things she couldn't promise.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.17,0:00:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't promise you lots of sales. I can't promise you
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.50,0:00:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an advance.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.54,0:00:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't promise you this and that and that,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.45,0:00:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what I can promise you is that we'll make any book
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.67,0:01:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to make.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.17,0:01:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll make it as beautifully as it could be made.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.45,0:01:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not that I was bowled over by that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.00,0:01:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much as I didn't believe it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.29,0:01:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought, well she probably doesn't know what she's saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.69,0:01:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe she thought I would want to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.29,0:01:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, doodle in a book or something,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.30,0:01:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to say we can make any book you want to make...
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.46,0:01:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I started thinking, what are the limits
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.76,0:01:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a book I would want to make?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.14,0:01:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because they were the limits of what a book could be,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.42,0:01:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because they were the limits of what I wanted.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.54,0:01:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had for a long time been interested
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.81,0:01:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a process called die-cutting,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.43,0:01:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an ancient, I don't know if it's ancient, but it's very, very old.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.68,0:01:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been used as long as there's been manufacturing
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.10,0:01:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of pretty much any kind, and it's basically
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.49,0:01:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking a material out of a material
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.90,0:01:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a stamp.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.35,0:01:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pushing something through a material.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.60,0:01:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So your car door is made by die-cutting
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.10,0:01:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a piece of steel or whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.85,0:01:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a tough word. I mean, die-cutting.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.02,0:01:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Die-cutting.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.85,0:02:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I saw it the first time, I thought, wow.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.93,0:02:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Die hard cutting.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.46,0:02:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost onomatopoeic.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.02,0:02:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not because it doesn't make that sound when it's done,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.34,0:02:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's almost like a Yiddish word.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.81,0:02:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds like what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.45,0:02:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In any case, I had wanted to do something
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.35,0:02:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with paper, with die-cutting,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.98,0:02:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I asked her if that would be possible,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.62,0:02:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she said yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.05,0:02:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we entered into this process that
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.02,0:02:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended up taking a couple of years,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.45,0:02:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started with one of my favorite books,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.97,0:02:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is Bruno Schulz's Street of Crocodiles,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.05,0:02:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tried to carve out of it another story.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.73,0:02:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.67,0:02:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you choose words from a text that you
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.14,0:02:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love as much as you love the text by Bruno Schulz?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.54,0:02:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, in a way, loving the text didn't have anything to do with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.18,0:02:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I loved the text because it was so almost exactly because
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.41,0:02:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was so good for this purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.30,0:02:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it's just so...
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.97,0:03:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, if you were going to eat a food that you love,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.99,0:03:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would prefer that the plate be overflowing with it
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.14,0:03:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than that there be a tiny little bit in the center of the plate.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.97,0:03:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would, anyway.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.84,0:03:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's probably a very American thing I just said.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.45,0:03:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But his book is overflowing with things that I love,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.22,0:03:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so when I had to choose the book to commit to a book
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.60,0:03:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use this process with,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.29,0:03:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted a very rich palette.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.10,0:03:31.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, if you're a painter, you don't want a palette with two colors.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.21,0:03:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well you might, but you would rather have the choice of as many colors as there are,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.25,0:03:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think his book offers as many colors as any book that there is.