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Call my hairdresser, we're rolling
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[Giggles]
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it's an emergency.
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The uh Master of Puppets LP
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it's number 30 on the billboard,
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how did that kind of success
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make you guys feel?
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Styling
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Surprised
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apparently [giggles]
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yeah real surprised.
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Shout the questions out, maybe
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[Giggles]
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HOW DOES IT FEEL
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sorry about that
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it's alright
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[Laughing] I forgot about that
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you wanna answer that again?
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the proper way?
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[Laughing]
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yeah
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being in the top 30 is pretty surprising.
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it's great though
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good place to be
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is that how you guys met your success?
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album sales?
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uhhh
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if not, how so?
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crowd reactions
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yeah
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well you can measure it
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in quite a few different ways
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how many people show up
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at your show,
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that's how we
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pretty much
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rate it.
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talk to a lot of hardcore metal fans
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and they say
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quote
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"metalica has sold out"
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what's your response
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to something like that?
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don't think you can do it
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on a tv
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[laughs]
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yeah it's uh
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we're not too worried
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about them
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we do what we wanna do
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ya-know?
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they consider that selling out
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then uh
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whatever
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alot of people think you sold out
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just cause you're on a major label
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and are very popular
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or maybe you don't play
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a thousand miles an hour
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the whole time, or ya-know?
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we'd be doing the same thing
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if we were still on,
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ya-know
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independent label.
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we had a call from lars
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that said metalica is gonna be big
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but we're gonna do it our way
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can you uh-
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explain that?
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well it's good that ya-know we have
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you know we're up on
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around thirty in the charts
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no
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hardly any radio play on the
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ya know, major stations
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ya know a lot of college stations
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are helping out
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but you know
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no video no
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you know
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mass ya-know media
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and still
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there's a huge buzz going on
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and I think its
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because of our music
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that's whats great
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we're doing it our way
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and
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lotta the major magazines are pickin it up
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and you know
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not
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putting a bunch of hype
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and ya-know we're doing it our way
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it's great.
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does that still mean no videos?
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that's a matter of time
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pretty much
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just a matter of time
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not a huge demand right now
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[sniffs]
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what's it like being on tour
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with ozzie?
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doin good
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it's a lot of fun
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things are going really well
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fifty five minutes
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you know
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all our stage set up
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pretty cool
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we're treated well
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do you guys hang out
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with the guys from their band?
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now and then
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you know
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its the night off
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ya-know we'll go out to the
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local bar whatever
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but
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depends who's where
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you know?
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you just kinda run into people
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here and there
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more or less
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How would you- what do you think of ozzie and Metallica
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as a touring package
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good
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real good
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both doing real well
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um
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think kinda complement each other
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its a good deal
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how've the fans reacted to you guys?
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great
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they've been with us
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yeah
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a lot better than
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you know
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other support acts would have
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i think [giggles]
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alot of the smaller places
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in the middle of the country
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are you know
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still not too familiar
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with our stuff
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and
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you know
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we have time for an encore
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we go off stage for a bit
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and you won't hear a huge
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yeah come on come on!
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and you won't hear no
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booo
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you just kinda hear
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[muffled whispers]
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you know
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"whats that"
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"did you like it?"
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"I don't know, did you?" "what was that?"
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they don't know what to think
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in those places
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in the bigger cities
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do you think a lot of kids
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are coming out to see you?
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like to think so
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it looks that way. that's what we hear,
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[whistling]
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describe your relationship
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you guys have with the fans
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same people, same as our fans
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we're not up there doing something
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they couldn't really do
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just a little harder to get to them now
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with the big arenas and the big security
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and stuff
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it's not quite as intimate as it has been
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in the past
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but
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that's to be expected
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the small places are real fun
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the atmosphere you know
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it's more intense
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just cramned in
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concentrated
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no barriers
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you know
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you can see pretty much everyone
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you know
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crowds fighting
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these bigger places
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you know
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you got your barriers
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and it's hard to see past
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say tenth row
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hard to get a good vibe off the crowd
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why do you think it's important
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to be close to your fans?
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the energy flow
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you know it
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we get the energy directly from them
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the farther away you are
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the harder that is to-uh
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communicate
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why would you wanna separate
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yourself from it?
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tell us how long the tour
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is going to be going for
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well we're with ozzie in the states till
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late may
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he does two weeks in japan
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could do some headline stuff
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around texas
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and then hook up with him again
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when he comes back
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go on till I think august
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and then
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europe after that
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couple months
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then japan
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the end of the year
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could be till next year
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yeah we're pretty much
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on the road
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what's after that?
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come back and do
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some headline stuff
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in the stage probably
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which will be fun
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playing twenty thousand seat arenas
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exposes you guys, like you said
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to a lot of kids who haven't seen
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Metallica before
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and don't know what Metallica's about
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do you think that's more
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important at this stage of your career
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then say,
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headlining places
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like a little more?
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yeah [in unison]
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definitely
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why so?
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we're playing alot of places
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that we wouldn't usually play
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If we're headlining
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cause of, you know
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tour budget
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in front of a lot of kids
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that wouldn't come to see us
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if we were headlining
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maybe
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just cause you know
-
ozzie
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it's a chance to make more fans
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you know
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people that just
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wouldn't see it
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reach out and grab some more
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what do your parents think about all this?
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they're into it
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yeah
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your parents real into it
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so is curg's
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lars's as well
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my dad, you know, whatever [laughs]
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you think they look at you
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a little differently
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when they see the albums go high
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in the charts?
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well it
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it makes them
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they're proud
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and they're happy
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that there's some success
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going on you know
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its a bit of a relief for them
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you know they'd be pretty worried
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about it
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years ago
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do they come out and see your shows?
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if it's appropriate
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you know
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if the venues right
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you know
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we don't bring 'em to any
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small riots that we had
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when we were first going up
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[laughs]
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we've been known to play a few of those
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and mom up front [imitates fighting]
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eyyyy
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[laughs]
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why do the kids spend ten bucks
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to see Metallica riding in
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in a metal band?
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uh
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well hopefully because he likes it
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he wants to see us [laughs]
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well because
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you know
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we
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have something different to offer
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something more than
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you know
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basic thrash
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just a hundred percent
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all the time
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got some varied stuff
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like to think its interesting to see
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too
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what is that something different?
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[giggles and laughs]
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uh
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some lyrics i think?
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lyrics that say something more
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than hey baby lets party
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you know
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bang our head against eachother
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and all that
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some music gets uh
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pretty intricate now and then
-
watch a lot of the
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you know
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thrash and bands
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are pretty straight forward
-
in their approach
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you know
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what are your thoughts on
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looks bands
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people like ratt, crue, kiss
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people who rely on
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the effects and costumes?
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so what
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works for them
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we wouldn't do it
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we'd be pretty ugly in it [laughs]
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we look ugly enough as it is
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we don't need any help
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leave well enough alone
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so tell us your theory on that
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just sticking with the jeans and sneakers
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well it's what we're comfortable in
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its what we wear
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when we're
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just hanging out doing nothin
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and
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you know
-
why should we change
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we're on stage
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we're not trying to
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be something big
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and fancy
-
you know
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its just us
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doing what we do
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let's keep it that way.
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bring the music more
-
across instead of
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the look
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not trying to hide anything
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that also ties in to what you said
-
about just being like
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the kids who come to see you
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yeah
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lotta times we'll get hasseled
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like
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where's you pass?
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they think it's some
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punner trying to get back
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[laughter]
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its cool
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i like hiding the pass
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so they hassle you
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[laughter]
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why don't you think about more
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I hate to use the term
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thrash bands, but
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hardcore speed metal
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bands
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or bands who have their roots
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in that?
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why have you been signed and not them?
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hmm- uhm
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I dunno
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I think we're pretty lucky
-
yea
-
cause kill 'em all
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really
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like hit the underground
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really hard
-
and then a lot of bands
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started catching on after that
-
I think we had a head start
on a lot of them
-
when we saw
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the new wave of british metal
-
that was coming out
-
we knew it was gonna hit
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like- ya know
-
couple years before
-
it was gonna hit the states fairly soon
-
so
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we like doing it
-
we were doing it down in LA
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and alot of people
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didn't know what the hell was going on
-
they didn't see any
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hair dos or makeup or anything
-
just going up there bashing it
-
do you think speed metal's
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developed into
-
just like
-
another trendy musical genre now?
-
could be
-
in terms of like
-
you know
-
satanic images
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or you have to have that
-
and you have to have
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studs and leather
-
theres always trendy stuff
-
thats coming up
-
but I think we're
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gonna be hanging out for quite a while
-
just, you know
-
sabbath
-
a lot of bands caught for a while
-
and then kinda
-
dwindled away
-
what are your influences
-
what did you guys like
-
grow up listening to?
-
old sabbath
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rush
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Aerosmith
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thin lizzy
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(Burp)
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a lot of thin lizzy
-
great band
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(laughs)
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Cliff I read that you're into blues
-
uhhh
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i"m into a lot of different kinds of music
-
that's uhh
-
[unintelligible noise]
-
not real (laughs)
-
he's into yellow, blue, red
-
not real accurate ya-know
-
i'm into a lot of different stuff
-
classical music
-
punk
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uhh, beer
-
some popular music
-
it's a bunch of things I like
-
listen to different stuff for different
-
moods, ya-know
-
yeah, exactly
-
who are the new artists or records
-
that you guys are getting excited about?
-
whiskerdoo
-
like the new stuff
-
bankle english dogs
-
some of the minor, underground bands
-
that are not so popular
-
band call sawwin
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uh, the old misfit stuff too
-
is real good
-
mm, a lot of the old stuff
-
we grew up on, we still listen to a lot
-
not listening to ya-know
-
some of the basic metal that's coming
-
out, kind of shy away from that
-
what do you think is in the future for
-
heavy metal?
-
it's gonna be hangin out for a while
-
it always has been
-
hangin out.
-
one last question,
-
this is a toughy,
-
is it true Cliff Bernstien is the
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secret fifth member of the band?
-
(Laughs)
-
See him out at the
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at the sound desk
-
you would think so
-
he gets into it
-
he does
-
do ever bring out to had to bring him
-
out to
-
play some air guitar with you?
-
(laughs)
-
that'd be cool
-
if he wants
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(laughs)
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alright, thanks a lot.