[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.34,0:00:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Now, do you see\Nthe record button in the corner? Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.01,0:00:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Up in the corner it should say\N"Recording," and so- Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.82,0:00:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] Yep. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.56,0:00:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Okay, cool.\NAnd then I'm gonna mute myself Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.29,0:00:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while you introduce yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.93,0:00:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're going to tap on the table\Nor make a noise before you start. Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.14,0:00:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.80,0:00:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello, my name is\NLeroy Franklin Moore, Jr. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.56,0:00:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I live in Berkeley, California. Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.71,0:00:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am an author, activist, founder\Nof many organizations, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.58,0:00:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,founder of Krip Hop Music with a K Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.20,0:00:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, back in the day,\NI had a nonprofit called Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.89,0:00:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Disability Advocates\Nof Minorities Organization, Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.27,0:00:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I also helped to start\Nwhat's called Sins Invalid. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.93,0:01:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a journalist with POOR Magazine, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.71,0:01:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yeah, just an activist and a writer\Nof many books. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.83,0:01:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The latest book is\NBlack Disabled Ancestors. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.56,0:01:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm also a lecturer\Non college campuses. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.95,0:01:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Great, Leroy, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.46,0:01:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, so the first question is\Ntell of your first memory realizing Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.32,0:01:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there were accessibility issues,\Ndiscrimination, or lack of inclusion. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.59,0:01:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is your personal story or connection\Nto the Americans with Disabilities Act? Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.69,0:01:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you remember about the day\Nthat it was signed, if applicable, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.09,0:01:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what was the impact on you\Nand on others? Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.18,0:02:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] So the first example that\NI realized that there was discrimination Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.31,0:02:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was back in the early '80s\Nwhen me and two other Black disabled boys Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.89,0:02:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decided to a letter campaign, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.95,0:02:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was before computers\Nso we had to write. Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.24,0:02:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we did a letter campaign\Nto a lot of Black organizations Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.31,0:02:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Black leaders at the time Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.61,0:02:43.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking why there was no\NBlack disabled people on TV or anywhere. Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.35,0:02:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was the first time\Nthat I, you know, put it on my shoulders Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.05,0:02:56.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and challenged the system. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.17,0:03:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the other time when I realized\Nthat there was a lack of accessibility Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.05,0:03:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when I was attending my father's\Nactivist meetings in the early '80s, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.42,0:03:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were talking\Nabout police brutality Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.36,0:03:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other stuff that happens\Nto Black community. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.38,0:03:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I left that meeting,\NI was approached by a disabled group Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.14,0:03:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wanted me to join their group to\Ntalk about, to advocate about curb cuts. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.42,0:03:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I asked them, "Well, you know,\NI just left a meeting with my father, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.79,0:03:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and they were talking\Nabout police brutality, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.95,0:03:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and a lot of Black disabled people\Ncan't enjoy the curb cuts. Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.23,0:04:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"They can't go outside, because\Nthey're getting shot by the police." Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.66,0:04:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the group said,\N"Well, we can't deal with that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.46,0:04:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We're dealing with curb cuts." Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.36,0:04:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's when I really found out, like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.13,0:04:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wow, this is two different worlds\Nand two different issues. Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.18,0:04:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's the first time that I\Nfound out there's, you know, difference. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.43,0:04:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with the ADA, you know,\Nwhen the ADA was signed Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.54,0:04:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that picture was everywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.93,0:04:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once again, I looked at the picture\Nand I was like, Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.04,0:04:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Huh. Nobody looks like me." Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.57,0:04:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And back in the late '90s, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.87,0:05:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had an organization called Disability\NAdvocates of Minorities Organization, Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.77,0:05:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had tons of copies\Nof the cover of the ADA, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.20,0:05:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we put on the top of the ADA\Nwho is, what is missing from this picture. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.29,0:05:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, we all knew the answer\Nis people of color, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.07,0:05:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, you know, that was the first statement\Nthat I made about the ADA. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.59,0:05:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it was like where is\Npeople of color in the picture of the ADA? Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.88,0:05:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Yay!\NBeautiful, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.01,0:05:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.45,0:05:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] The present. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.93,0:05:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Has the ADA made a difference? Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.06,0:05:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us about your a-ha moment\Nthat told you that the ADA Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.76,0:06:00.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is or is not making a difference. Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.73,0:06:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to what extent, based on your passions\Nand areas of expertise, where do you see Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.33,0:06:11.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not see the impact of the ADA? Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.25,0:06:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] So, yeah, of course the ADA\Nhas made a difference in society, Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.08,0:06:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in, you know, the global society. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.74,0:06:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you can see it with\Naccessibility in public places. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.21,0:06:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can see it in communication, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.27,0:06:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially during these social network\Nlife that we're living in Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.76,0:06:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Google and Twitter, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.96,0:06:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them are making their products\Nmore accessible, so that's good. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.23,0:07:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we see a little- Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.51,0:07:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're in the airlines a lot,\Nbut, you know, yes, we see it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.12,0:07:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the place that it needs more growth Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.44,0:07:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is, of course, people of color, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.82,0:07:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that are poor,\Npeople that are "immigrants." Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.15,0:07:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they still, the ADA do not reach them, Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.58,0:07:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why my organization\Nin the '90s and early 2000s Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.54,0:07:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had the Other Side Rally. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.00,0:07:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the other side of the ADA, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.66,0:07:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give the voices of communities\Nthat hadn't felt the good of the ADA. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.13,0:07:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So yeah, it needs a lot of work, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.31,0:08:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when it comes to our cities,\Nour inner cities. Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.98,0:08:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I live in Berkeley. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.85,0:08:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Berkeley's like a utopia place\Nfor people with disabilities. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.45,0:08:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you see curb cuts,\Nwe've got the Ed Roberts building. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.86,0:08:35.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you go to East Oakland, you know,\Nthere's only a handful of curb cuts. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.25,0:08:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The roads are still bumpy;\Nstores are still small. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.12,0:08:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you can see the difference\Nbetween communities. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.02,0:08:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that needs to change. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.09,0:09:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, the high unemployment rate\Nof people with disabilities Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.01,0:09:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hasn't changed since the '80s. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.46,0:09:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talking about Black\Nand brown disabled people, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.81,0:09:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's still a high 90% unemployment rate. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.37,0:09:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that still hasn't changed. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.03,0:09:20.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can go on and on, but yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.91,0:09:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There needs to be more push of the ADA\Nin certain communities. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.32,0:09:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I think our leadership\Nmore actually needs to change. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.28,0:09:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only the president, but our\Ndisabled lobbyists needs to change. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.09,0:09:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need more young people\Nwith disabilities Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.12,0:09:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking over the leadership\Nwho won't compromise, Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.45,0:09:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think that's one\Nof the biggest things that we lose Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.25,0:10:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, when we compromise,\Nwe look back and it's like, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.51,0:10:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh my God, we didn't get nothing\Nfor that compromise." Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.68,0:10:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we need more leaders\Nthat don't compromise. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.86,0:10:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Well said, Leroy.\NYou're doing great, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.79,0:10:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the future, and you may have already\Ncovered what you want of this, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.60,0:10:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you can just listen, Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.48,0:10:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if there's more you want to say,\Nthen go for it. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.46,0:10:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With the work you've been doing, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.68,0:10:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've seen a lot\Nin terms of progress and barriers. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.53,0:10:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could pick one thing to change\Nor that needs to occur Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.62,0:10:46.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have access and equality present\Nin the lives of people with disabilities, Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.79,0:10:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what would that be? Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.03,0:10:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] I think people with disabilities\Nin key roles. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.83,0:11:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we need a disabled president. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.82,0:11:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, in key roles,\Nwe need disabled people in the media. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.13,0:11:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need disabled people in the DOJ,\Nthe Department of Justice. Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.48,0:11:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The DOJ enforces the law, Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.17,0:11:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we need strong people\Nthat will enforce the laws. Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.69,0:11:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need more disabled people\Nin all kinds of areas. Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.20,0:11:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Education, mental health, legislators, Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.91,0:11:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that are passing budgets, you know.\NYeah. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.59,0:11:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Thank you, Leroy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.16,0:11:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for the call to action, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.92,0:12:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what steps can we\Nas community members take right now? Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.90,0:12:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] Well, right now it's hard,\Nbecause of this COVID-19. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.79,0:12:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, people need to be safe, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.92,0:12:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, that's basically, from COVID-19. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.64,0:12:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really think of what they're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.70,0:12:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really think, you know,\Nif it's necessary to go outside, Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.68,0:12:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it's necessary to protest. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.80,0:12:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, we definitely need to think\Nwhat's really necessary Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.26,0:12:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what's not necessary. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.03,0:12:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think, at this time,\Nwe can't think of anything else, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.41,0:12:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's life or death, you know? Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.58,0:12:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The media is talking about the elections, Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.65,0:13:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about other things,\Nbut, if we don't live, Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.96,0:13:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we can't enjoy\Nanything on this Earth. Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.84,0:13:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think people really\Nto take serious on this COVID. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.62,0:13:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because t's not over,\Nand that includes about all the services Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.77,0:13:31.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the laws and the lifestyles\Nof people with disabilities. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.64,0:13:37.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, yeah, that's on my plate. Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.11,0:13:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing that's\Non my plate right now. Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.52,0:13:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's, you know, trying to stay safe Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.10,0:13:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to stay in contact\Nwith people with disabilities. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.11,0:13:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Very nice, Leroy.\NVery nice. Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.92,0:13:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there anything else that you want\Nto say that you didn't say? Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.96,0:14:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] I think also there needs to be Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.49,0:14:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more mentorship\Nfor young disabled people coming up. Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.03,0:14:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And mentorship in the public domain, Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.51,0:14:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only in the disability community,\Nbut in the community wide open Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.13,0:14:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so people know about about it\Nin other communities. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.58,0:14:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That and I also think that, going back\Nto Black and brown disabled communities, Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.34,0:14:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there needs to be a national campaign,\Nnational awareness campaign, Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.45,0:14:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the Black and brown community\Naround disability, Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.19,0:14:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we do not get it through the ADA. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.37,0:14:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We do not get it through 504. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.36,0:15:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, because of that, our communities\Nare slowly becoming not important Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.33,0:15:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Black and brown disabled people. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.68,0:15:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to leave our communities\Nto get services. Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.09,0:15:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to leave our communities\Njust to be recognized as disabled people. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.64,0:15:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think there needs to be\Na national campaign Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.82,0:15:35.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Black and brown communities Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.80,0:15:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so disabled people can return home Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.07,0:15:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really educate our\NBlack and brown communities. Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.79,0:15:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I call "Black ableism"\Nis one thing that is a roadblock Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.05,0:16:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a lot of Black and brown disabled\Nactivists that want to come back home Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.94,0:16:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and work in our communities. Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.82,0:16:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we need a national campaign\Nso we can get rid of the Black ableism. Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.85,0:16:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] Awesome, Leroy.\NAwesome. Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.29,0:16:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I appreciate you taking your time out\Nto just share your thoughts, Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.58,0:16:34.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think this is gonna be eye-opening\Nfor a lot of people. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.31,0:16:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love it, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.25,0:16:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Leroy] Yeah!\NSo when is this gonna go up? Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.52,0:16:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Interviewer] So let me-