1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Q: Hello everyone and welcome to Podcast Italiano. Today's is a very special 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,940 video because we have Erika after I don't know how long in a video that is not a vlog. 3 00:00:11,940 --> 00:00:14,160 E: Yes, that's right. Hello to all. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,240 Q: And do you want to explain the reason for your appearance, 5 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:20,760 your return here on the YouTube channel? 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,570 E: Yes, in a few days, exactly the… 7 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:31,660 D: The 22nd of September, so maybe it has already passed for you who are watching this video. 8 00:00:31,660 --> 00:00:37,360 It is OK. It will be the birthday of Podcast Italiano, 5 years after the podcast's 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:44,320 opening . And so to celebrate this anniversary - in any case five years is a long time 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:54,610 - Davide decided to… do a Q&A, questions and answers, with your questions obviously, 11 00:00:54,610 --> 00:01:00,910 curiosity about the project more than anything else and he needed someone to read the questions. 12 00:01:00,910 --> 00:01:05,650 D: Exactly. We already made a video like that two years ago, if you remember. 13 00:01:05,650 --> 00:01:11,605 E: I remember a video in which we lit a candle on an improvised dessert. 14 00:01:11,605 --> 00:01:14,890 D: Yes, even today we should do something like this. 15 00:01:14,890 --> 00:01:15,490 It is OK. 16 00:01:15,490 --> 00:01:21,640 But before moving on to the questions I want to thank today's sponsor, which is NordVPN. A 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:28,840 very special sponsor for Podcast Italiano because it has supported the project in the past months. 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Thanks to Nord for the support in these months and let's start with the questions. 31 00:02:59,234 --> 00:03:04,520 D: I have not seen them, I have not read them, Erika in the past 10 32 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,550 minutes has done a job of selection, grouping, so I'm all ears. 33 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:14,930 E: I wanted to make a premise before asking you the first question and that is that you have not 34 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:19,640 seen them but I have read the messages a bit and there are many people who have not 35 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:24,890 asked you questions but have complimented you, they thanked you for your work, for 36 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:29,975 all the things they have learned from your videos. So it seemed only right to mention them. 37 00:03:29,975 --> 00:03:36,740 D: And it seems only right to thank all the positive comments you have made now, 38 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:42,050 on this occasion, or that you always do. It is a stereotypical phrase but without the 39 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:47,960 support of an audience such a project could not exist, so thanks to you who 40 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,640 watch videos, listen to podcasts and support me in any way. 41 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,430 E: Okay, so now we can start. 42 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:56,420 D: Let's go. 43 00:03:56,420 --> 00:04:03,350 E: I'll ask you the first question which, let's say, is also the most suitable to start with because, in 44 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:11,650 fact, let's start from the beginning, right? In fact, a lot of people have asked you why you 45 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:17,230 decided to start with this project, right? I mention someone ... maricesar03, 46 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:25,054 olgakedziora_ I think you pronounce it, sorry if I'm wrong to say your names. 47 00:04:25,054 --> 00:04:28,630 D: We're going to cripple them, [E: Right.] So excuse us in advance. 48 00:04:28,630 --> 00:04:33,760 E: Carlos Ss. And I know that someone on the Telegram group also had this question, so… 49 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:42,160 Q: Telegram group of the Podcast Italiano Club, by the way. I myself was a podcast user 50 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:52,720 like mine and I liked using podcasts as material to learn the languages ​​I was learning and 51 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:58,810 at the time I was much more passionate about foreign languages ​​in the sense that I learned them much more 52 00:04:58,810 --> 00:05:04,348 actively than today [E: Yes.] and… and so I decided to do something similar simply. 53 00:05:04,348 --> 00:05:09,460 E: Well ... D: And I also said it in a recent video with Alberto Arrighini, I told him, 54 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:17,620 he inspired me a bit because I saw that there was already a project similar to what I 55 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:23,230 wanted to do. it was his and I saw it even had a Patreon page, 56 00:05:23,230 --> 00:05:27,070 so I had already had some dreams like [E: Yes.] “I could do a similar thing too”, 57 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:31,210 so… so thanks Alberto if you're watching this video! 58 00:05:31,210 --> 00:05:34,810 E: But then you had this idea of ​​being able ... that is, more than an 59 00:05:34,810 --> 00:05:38,740 idea maybe this dream of being able to live there or was it born more as a hobby? 60 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:44,620 D: Mmm. There was a bit of that dream, in the sense… I would have liked it. Don't ... 61 00:05:44,620 --> 00:05:49,180 E: But maybe you didn't want to say it out loud, did you? Out of luck, I don't know. 62 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:56,620 D: Yeah, how to say… not… I realized that it was possible. As if to say, 63 00:05:56,620 --> 00:06:03,790 today I realize that you can live by opening an online project. In my field then I have seen 64 00:06:03,790 --> 00:06:09,280 many people doing it, I know people who have much bigger projects than mine who 65 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:15,152 started doing something like mine and who have companies with 10-15 employees. 66 00:06:15,152 --> 00:06:21,580 E: Yes, in this regard, Anton was asking you on the Telegram group if it was something, 67 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:26,920 let's say, premeditated, that you had been thinking for a long time or if it was a thing of the moment. 68 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,780 Q: I've been thinking about it for a while, I don't remember if weeks or months maybe, 69 00:06:31,780 --> 00:06:38,620 I guess a few months before… how to say, find the courage to… do it. But if 70 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:45,010 I can give some advice: if you have ideas like "I would like to carry out a project" of any kind 71 00:06:45,010 --> 00:06:51,430 in mind, better (if you can do it, it depends on the project), better ... better start now and do it, do 72 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:57,850 n't ... don't think too much about it because one learns a lot doing things and not, how to say ... 73 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:58,210 E: Meditating. 74 00:06:58,210 --> 00:07:00,780 D: Planning ahead. 75 00:07:00,780 --> 00:07:00,967 E: Yes. D: So yes. 76 00:07:00,967 --> 00:07:09,340 E: More or less on this topic Atallia.n asks: "Was it difficult to create the podcast, 77 00:07:09,340 --> 00:07:14,050 design the site and find the first listeners?" So just a little more on a practical level. 78 00:07:14,050 --> 00:07:20,170 D: Well yes, there are some things that one has to learn to do, like ... like making a site, 79 00:07:20,170 --> 00:07:26,590 managing, what do I know, the more technical aspects, but it's not that difficult, 80 00:07:26,590 --> 00:07:32,650 in the sense, the information is there, so today then it's easier than ever. If you want to 81 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:40,000 make a podcast you can do it with platforms that simplify the process a lot [E: Yes.], So ... 82 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,070 E: Yes, well, even creating the sites is 83 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:45,580 not [D: Yes sure.] as difficult as it could have maybe been at the start. 84 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:49,390 D: You learn, that's why I say: you have to do these things, 85 00:07:49,390 --> 00:07:55,630 get yourself to--… and learn all these more boring aspects, but perhaps they are fundamental. 86 00:07:55,630 --> 00:07:59,650 E: In fact cuadernodeandre asks you: what is the impact, 87 00:07:59,650 --> 00:08:02,260 the biggest change that Podcast Italiano has given you? 88 00:08:02,260 --> 00:08:07,660 Q: Oh well, have a salary? [Laughs]. I have already said this in the past too: I 89 00:08:07,660 --> 00:08:14,890 have never worked in the sense of having a steady job, that is, I did a little bit while studying, 90 00:08:14,890 --> 00:08:20,650 but not very ... not very serious things, so this is my first real serious job. And so 91 00:08:20,650 --> 00:08:27,460 this is the biggest change. After university, I already had this ... this project 92 00:08:27,460 --> 00:08:33,712 was already underway, and so I was able to continue doing it. That's a change, to have some money. 93 00:08:33,712 --> 00:08:38,800 E: Well, I would say. Q: So thank you for financing my house and food. 94 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,140 E: Daniel Scarchilli, I think I am right, asks: 95 00:08:44,140 --> 00:08:48,910 "What would you have liked to know that you really didn't know before starting on this path?" 96 00:08:48,910 --> 00:08:52,780 D: Maybe what I said before: I would have liked to have a greater awareness 97 00:08:52,780 --> 00:09:01,660 of the feasibility, of the feasibility of such a project, but it is something you 98 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:05,500 discover along the way. So I would have liked to have had this awareness more, 99 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:10,685 maybe I would have taken this type of activity more seriously since the beginning. 100 00:09:10,685 --> 00:09:18,350 E: Since before. D: Yes, like, now I see people who have very new projects and ... they approach it 101 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:23,690 with a more serious ... different seriousness, a seriousness, a more entrepreneurial mentality 102 00:09:23,690 --> 00:09:27,230 right from the start. It is clear that one must always have patience, if one thinks 103 00:09:27,230 --> 00:09:33,710 overnight of… no? Getting ... creating a salary is wrong, probably wrong. 104 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:38,810 E: Well, I'll ask you a question that is perhaps my favorite from Portuguese with Leo. 105 00:09:38,810 --> 00:09:44,720 D: Speaking of ... Speaking of people who have started a project with a 106 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:50,210 very entrepreneurial mentality: there is Leo, subscribe to his channel, he 107 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:56,240 has been starting his project a few months ago, less than a year and it has almost my subscribers, 108 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,170 basically, he is doing things very very well, so a great example. 109 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:03,920 E: So yes, he actually asks you two questions. The 110 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,280 first and most important is: "How do you get so much style?" 111 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,050 Q: It's the power of foreign languages, isn't it? The more you learn, the 112 00:10:12,050 --> 00:10:16,010 more style you acquire. You see Luca Lampariello, right? 113 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:21,500 E: Ah, I understand. The second question is: "How do you ..." He wrote: "Seriously this time". 114 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,420 D: Oh, so he wasn't serious. 115 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:25,310 True. Maybe he wasn't being serious. 116 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:27,200 Q: Now I am very offended with Leo. 117 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,490 E: Asks, "How do you make sure you don't lack video and episode ideas?" 118 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:37,130 Q: Why who said I don't lack ideas? Like pretty much all content creators, 119 00:10:37,130 --> 00:10:40,280 I guess, I have a list with lots of ideas. Then 120 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:45,305 some ideas are more easily achievable, others… others less so. 121 00:10:45,305 --> 00:10:49,430 E: Maybe others have been on this list since you started, 122 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:54,380 I sometimes see that they are always there, never realized. 123 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:59,900 D: Yes exactly, it also depends on the periods then. There are times when you feel more creative 124 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:06,072 and you get more ideas, other times when you are less. Sure reading helps. 125 00:11:06,072 --> 00:11:07,210 E: Yes, in fact I was going to say… 126 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:14,470 Q: So if one makes videos in my case on Italian or even on Italian as, 127 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:18,640 in short, curiosity about the language, clearly reading helps, it gives me a lot of ideas. 128 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:24,310 E: There Bressan: "What would you do different from what you have done up to here?" I mean, is there 129 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:29,710 something you may regret that you would do differently anyway? 130 00:11:29,710 --> 00:11:36,100 Q: Maybe I would have opened first the page on Patreon, my club, which I thank, I 131 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:40,420 thank all the people who are on the club because they are fundamental, 132 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:45,130 their support is fundamental. I think I should have started earlier because, 133 00:11:45,130 --> 00:11:51,850 speaking of thinking too much about some choices and planning too much, here, 134 00:11:51,850 --> 00:11:56,080 for me Patreon was like that. One thing that I would have done differently, that I would have made ... 135 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:02,410 made fewer commitments regarding Patreon, because I do a lot of things on Patreon 136 00:12:02,410 --> 00:12:08,050 which is what makes it work in my opinion, because there are 800 people today, but 137 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:12,370 it also takes me a lot time and therefore I cannot do other things that I would like to do or in any case it is more 138 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:19,750 difficult. And I still don't learn from… from that because I keep doing new things for the 139 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:24,850 club on Patreon, the book club, it looks like I'm sponsoring now and actually doing it. 140 00:12:24,850 --> 00:12:35,410 E: Any excuse is good for sponsoring the Patreon. Then… he asks, "Is there anyone 141 00:12:35,410 --> 00:12:42,175 you wish you had on the podcast," I guess as a guest means, "but you haven't had yet?" 142 00:12:42,175 --> 00:12:48,040 D: For example, Alessandro Barbero, whom you may know, is a very famous historian in Italy, 143 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:55,150 also very famous among those who learn the language and I contacted him a few months ago to talk 144 00:12:55,150 --> 00:12:59,050 about his latest book and he answered me. I thought he wouldn't answer me.. why, right? 145 00:12:59,050 --> 00:13:05,200 I saw him as an unattainable celebrity. He replied after twenty minutes, however, refusing 146 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,985 in a very very polite way, saying that he really didn't have time and couldn't, so ... 147 00:13:09,985 --> 00:13:11,077 E: Come on, but he's a gentleman anyway ... 148 00:13:11,077 --> 00:13:12,490 D: A gentleman, yes. 149 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:22,210 It is OK. Then there are a few people who miss the podcast a bit. In fact, Timothy asks: 150 00:13:22,210 --> 00:13:28,720 “Why did you stop updating the podcast? I really miss". And Atallia of which we have read, 151 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,060 I believe, a question already asks you before: 152 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:34,532 “Will the episodes of ‘Reflections without transcriptions’ be released again?”. 153 00:13:34,532 --> 00:13:42,640 D: Well, one came out a few days ago. Yes, I miss the podcast too. As you have seen, 154 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:48,490 I have been focusing on YouTube for the past few months for various reasons. I do not know. Because… how do you say it, 155 00:13:48,490 --> 00:13:53,740 YouTube makes it easier for you to reach new audiences. Second thing: because ... 156 00:13:54,470 --> 00:14:00,800 because my time is limited and therefore ... I would do everything, but having to concentrate I ... 157 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,020 I focused on YouTube. I also really like the interaction on YouTube, the fact 158 00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:11,810 that there are comments and all of that. Podcasts are more like… my feeling is: 159 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:20,360 I do one thing, produce an episode and then throw it into the void. There is very little… very 160 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,490 little feedback, to use an Anglicism that everyone uses [E: Acknowledgment.] A lot… But actually yes, 161 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:31,220 it's more a matter of… of time and not being able to do it all alone. And there were 162 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:35,600 other questions too, I don't know if you wanted to stay on this topic, of people, for example, 163 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:42,080 if I'm not mistaken it was Lazlo on the club's Telegram chat asking if I have plans to create a 164 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,380 team or a group, how to say ... hire people and… Yes, in the future I would definitely like to, 165 00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:54,425 why not? Today, as if to say, I realize that it can be done, many have done it. 166 00:14:54,425 --> 00:15:00,980 E: Yes. Q: Oh, by the way, Vera also always on the club chat said the same thing: “If in the future, 167 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,510 the club specifically, becomes too busy, would you hire someone to… to 168 00:15:08,510 --> 00:15:13,940 help you? What would be your doubts or… or risks if Podcast Italiano 169 00:15:13,940 --> 00:15:19,250 became a company with employees? What would you do to keep the essence as it is today? " 170 00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:25,370 I don't really worry too much about… about this thing, that if I hired Podcast Italiano 171 00:15:25,370 --> 00:15:31,970 people it would lose its essence. I don't believe it, I don't frankly fear it, 172 00:15:31,970 --> 00:15:38,090 I think ... that is, many do. And… how to say… yes, it becomes a more professional thing, maybe. 173 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:43,130 E: So you wouldn't be, let's say, jealous of the project, like of… I don't know, 174 00:15:43,130 --> 00:15:45,827 sharing your creature, your child. 175 00:15:45,827 --> 00:15:50,330 D: I don't know, I should see but I don't think so. I honestly do not believe, on the contrary, 176 00:15:50,330 --> 00:15:54,830 I believe that the advantages would be much much greater, in the sense, 177 00:15:54,830 --> 00:16:00,890 the fact of not having to kill me, do everything myself. Then I think I'd kill myself anyway because 178 00:16:00,890 --> 00:16:04,910 in the end if you don't do some things you can always do others [E: Yes.] And then… 179 00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:09,341 E: You can always find a way to fill every moment. 180 00:16:09,341 --> 00:16:13,520 D: Yes. E: Then I’ve kind if kept the most interesting question pending. 181 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:19,610 In fact, many have asked it. I don't even know if I'll be able to read 182 00:16:19,610 --> 00:16:25,880 all the names because it's a super popular question. Everyone wants to know things like if you've ever 183 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:31,310 thought about quitting the project, if you've had a hard time, what your difficulties were. 184 00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:37,310 Q: Well, surely in the beginning there were a few months when I didn't upload anything. The first few years 185 00:16:37,310 --> 00:16:45,360 when I didn't do it professionally there was certainly some moment of defeat ... 186 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:51,090 No, not discouragement because in any case I wasn't even so tied (to the project) [E: Yes.] And therefore, 187 00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:57,660 how to say, not I published nothing for months and I didn't care. Since I have been doing it 188 00:16:57,660 --> 00:17:04,050 professionally and it's my job, so since ... the end of 2019, let's say, surely there have 189 00:17:04,050 --> 00:17:09,990 been times when I was in a darker mood, I saw things more negatively, 190 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:16,020 but I think it's normal in any job. For me, 2020 actually went very well, even though 191 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:24,750 the world was totally crazy [E: Yes.] And there was pandemic pandemonium. This year, 192 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:29,550 2021 has been more difficult for me, it has been more difficult to keep motivation high, 193 00:17:29,550 --> 00:17:35,790 make a video a week or so, find topics to talk about, 194 00:17:35,790 --> 00:17:41,760 as Leo said. It wasn't actually as easy as it might seem. The lockdown then, 195 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,130 always working here at home all the time, even that is something that sooner or later I will have to 196 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:53,310 change because I am too sedentary. I live in this room that… in this 197 00:17:53,310 --> 00:17:57,630 apartment which is too small to do everything, work, live, etc., so… 198 00:17:57,630 --> 00:18:01,920 E: But I don't think you ever thought of leaving everything. 199 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,370 D: Quitting doesn't, because in the end it becomes… it becomes your job, doesn't it? And this is 200 00:18:07,370 --> 00:18:13,632 my job, this is my… my life now. Abandoning it would mean having another life. 201 00:18:13,632 --> 00:18:14,775 E: Yes, really radically change. 202 00:18:14,775 --> 00:18:21,500 Q: And since I don't… I wouldn't know what to do but this, 203 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:26,108 I wouldn't… I wouldn't want to change, I don't have a real reason to do it. 204 00:18:26,108 --> 00:18:32,120 Sure. D: Is it true that being something a bit special you ask yourself if it makes sense, does such a project make 205 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:36,560 sense , in ten years it will still make sense, in fifteen years, in twenty years 206 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,150 I will still make videos on YouTube? I will podc… what will I do in twenty years? It's a question that 207 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:46,771 scares me if I think about it for too long, but I think it's a question everyone asks, I guess. 208 00:18:46,771 --> 00:18:48,342 E: Yes, indeed. D: So, that is ... 209 00:18:48,342 --> 00:18:53,450 E: Well, but then it's a question that in fact no one has an answer to because, 210 00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:59,810 I don't know, now one has desires, has aspirations, thinks he wants 211 00:18:59,810 --> 00:19:04,880 things that then maybe even just five years from now he won't want or want different things anymore, 212 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,620 so I don't even know if it makes sense to make such long- 213 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:16,550 term plans . Maria… Gonzalez asks: "Do you find this project more interesting now than 214 00:19:16,550 --> 00:19:20,930 before?" I mean, do you think it got more interesting over time? Well, I hope so. 215 00:19:20,930 --> 00:19:28,150 D: Well, I don't know, it depends on the moments. I mean, in the beginning, just when I started in 2016 216 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:35,470 I was clearly full of enthusiasm, I was excited to start this project, 217 00:19:35,470 --> 00:19:41,020 so [E: Sure.] Maybe that was the height of enthusiasm. Then in the following years, 218 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:47,860 how to say… it was variable. Then when I really managed to make it my job, 219 00:19:47,860 --> 00:19:55,540 so 2019-2020, there was also there ... there was a new wave of strong enthusiasm in my opinion, 220 00:19:55,540 --> 00:20:00,760 I was really excited about ... doing it as a job, not having to going to college more than I hated. 221 00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:06,310 Now mmm ... I don't know, it's an interesting job for sure, I talk about things I like, 222 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:11,699 I do things I like in general, but it's also more, like, a routine thing, I do ... 223 00:20:11,699 --> 00:20:13,600 E: Yes, it has become normal . 224 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:21,850 D: Yes of course, in the sense… I do interesting things in a job that has many aspects of 225 00:20:21,850 --> 00:20:27,730 routine. I do so many things that are always the same every week, every day [E: Yes.] And so it's not 226 00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:31,150 like one can be [E: Sure.] Always exalted all the time [E: No, in fact.], Always happy, 227 00:20:31,150 --> 00:20:35,920 too if… that is, I don't think there are jobs like that. But in general maybe ... 228 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:41,350 E: Yes, and then in my opinion many things when you do them professionally also become 229 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:47,900 anxiety-provoking, right? In the sense that… that is, when something goes from being a hobby to being your 230 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:54,410 job and it's the thing that actually feeds you and it also starts to become more of an anxiety, right? 231 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:59,630 That of having to perform, in fact, both a sportsman and perhaps a freelancer, 232 00:20:59,630 --> 00:21:04,940 of always having to perform to the maximum, of having to maintain a standard. 233 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:09,920 Q: Yes, of course, then if you have an audience there is also the aspect of 234 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:17,060 audience expectations and if you make videos for 50 people or for 90,000 it's different. 235 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:21,680 E: Okay, now I ask you a question from AD, finally a nickname that 236 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:28,160 I can say easily because it is AD "If you had enough money and resources 237 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:32,690 what project would you like to carry out, both related to the channel and on a personal level?" 238 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:40,547 Q: Enough money and resources… which are always money resources I think, right? 239 00:21:40,547 --> 00:21:46,010 E: Yes, I think so, I don't know. 240 00:21:46,010 --> 00:21:51,350 D: Ok. I don't know, something in real life, I think, is… it would be interesting. 241 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:56,120 It is OK. Q: There was also someone who asked if I intend to open the 242 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:01,850 Italian Podcast hotel in the chat on Telegram because it is something I talked about, 243 00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:07,400 I don't remember where, that is, we also talk about it every now and then, it would be nice ... well, 244 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,810 I don't know if it makes economic sense to open a hotel for Podcast Italiano… 245 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:13,925 E: A “Podcast Italiano Hotel”. 246 00:22:13,925 --> 00:22:19,220 D: But create live events or create, 247 00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:24,299 I don't know, summer camps or things… stuff like that, something in real life. 248 00:22:24,299 --> 00:22:27,170 E: Yes. D: Not… not that the Internet isn't real. 249 00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:28,307 E: Yes, but maybe not online. 250 00:22:28,307 --> 00:22:34,205 D: In person, in person here. If I had a million euros, I don't know what I would honestly do. 251 00:22:34,205 --> 00:22:38,690 E: But certainly not a project, but a nice vacation and away. 252 00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:42,650 D: Yes no, but… well, I would definitely hire people if I had more 253 00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:47,420 money. I know it's trivial but if you hire people you also have to pay them. 254 00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:52,670 E: Eh. Well, then to conclude a somewhat ritual question, 255 00:22:52,670 --> 00:22:59,150 however: both Zoek and Sara ask what are your plans for the future, 256 00:22:59,150 --> 00:23:03,860 Sara asks you just the usual interview question "Where do you see yourself in ten years?" 257 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:11,330 Q: And also Lazlo on the chat on Telegram asked "plans for the future". We have already said a little. 258 00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:18,740 Hiring people would be nice, I would like to take a course, I said that before, it's something I 259 00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:25,100 should have done years ago because it makes economic sense. Then I don't know. The future… I don't know. 260 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:29,420 In five years, ten years it is difficult to predict where I will be and what I will be doing, 261 00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:34,880 but it also takes a lot of organization and planning. I'm not good at these things, 262 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,890 at planning things, my planning usually doesn't go beyond seven days. 263 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:45,530 E: Well, come on, but maybe you managed to improve a bit in that too, right? 264 00:23:45,530 --> 00:23:50,450 D: Thanks to you, among other things, that you said to me: "But D. maybe if you made a 265 00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:58,445 content plan for a month, maybe ... maybe this thing could help you?" 266 00:23:58,445 --> 00:23:59,240 E: Look how great of an idea that is! 267 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,573 Q: I've been a content creator for five years and I said: “You know that…” 268 00:24:04,573 --> 00:24:13,880 E: You know I've never thought about it? Q: And I want to thank you Erika because in the end you were a part ... an integral part of ... of 269 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:20,420 this project, even if, how to say, sometimes you are not there for months in the podcasts, in the videos, 270 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:28,160 but in the end in my opinion it is indicative of the your importance for this project is the fact 271 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,670 that very often when people talk about this project, when they thank me they often 272 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:40,910 thank you too. And so it means that… that you have been an integral and fundamental part. 273 00:24:40,910 --> 00:24:42,820 E: Beautiful, very beautiful. 274 00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:43,370 D: So thank you. 275 00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:47,810 E: Unfortunately yes, I would like to participate more, do more things, 276 00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:51,140 but unfortunately the time is limited and… 277 00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:54,380 Q: The truth is that she wants money, and I don't pay her. 278 00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:56,600 E: Yeah well, that clearly. 279 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,750 D: Okay, enough, enough. Get the wine! Excuse is that if not what anniversary is it, what birthday 280 00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:08,802 is it if we don't celebrate? No but not twenty years old stuff. I wish I didn't get intoxicated. 281 00:25:08,802 --> 00:25:12,320 E: Well, Davide, a bottle magically appeared. 282 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:20,840 Q: A blanc de blanc sparkling wine seems to me an excellent opportunity. I 283 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:26,780 managed not to destroy anything. And nothing. Hear the microphone! 284 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,850 E: It became an ASMR video. 285 00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:36,435 D: So what do they say in these situations, Erika? 286 00:25:36,435 --> 00:25:38,100 E: To yours! 287 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:43,890 Q: To yours and ours and another five years of Italian Podcast. 288 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:49,800 E: Cin! 289 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,230 D: But do I close like this?