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    [Bradley Kuhn] I have to be honest
    I'm really honored to be here
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    I don't say that to just every conference
    I care a lot about Debian
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    This is my 3rd DebConf I've ever been to.
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    There have been a lot of them so I
    obviously haven't been to that many
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    But I was at DebConf1
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    I just learned today that it was zero
    based so that it wasn't the first DebConf
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    which I should have known but didn't for
    some reason.
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    I was at the 2nd DebConf by accident
    somewhat because I was going to
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    Libre Software Meeting and just
    happened to
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    book my flights so that I could be at
    DebConf as well
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    I gave a regular track talk at DebConf10
    about the GPL v3
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    because it was in New York City where I
    was living at the time
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    Here I'm giving an invited speaker talk or
    keynote or whatever else it is called here
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    That really means a lot to me.
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    I'm a fan of Debian, I'm a user of Debian.
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    I don't actually consider myself part of
    the Debian community
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    because other than filing a few bugs
    over the years
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    I haven't contributed all that much to
    Debian but I've relied on it and used it
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    and been a fan of it for so long
    that I really love your project.
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    So I am really honored to be invited to
    speak here
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    and I really believe that Debian is a
    very special project for a lot of reasons.
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    First of all, it has thrived for longer
    than almost any free software project
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    in existence in a lot of ways.
    There are top 10 lists of projects that
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    Debian is certainly on as far as longevity
    goes, maybe the top 5
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    It's governance is one of the few
    democratically elected and
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    democratically controlled
    governance processes in free software
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    Everyone is a fan of talking about this
    'benevolent dictator' stuff
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    which I think is really horrible
    The fact that somebody would call
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    themselves a 'self appointed benevolent
    dictator for life' is really disturbing.
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    You are democratic.
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    You elect your leadership.
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    You have referendums on major issues
    that everyone can vote on.
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    That is amazingly rare, impressive
    and important for free software.
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    The other thing that really impresses me,
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    in particular being somebody from the
    non-profit world,
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    is that Debian has been staunchly
    non-commercial for it's entire existence.
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    Of course I don't mean that Debian
    can't be used in commercial settings.
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    DFSG free means that things can be put
    into commercial products.
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    What I mean is that the project itself has
    always been non-commercial,
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    meaning that the people that work on it
    are volunteering,
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    and, even if their employers are paying
    them to work on it,
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    they are part of a community and not
    doing their work inside Debian as
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    officially part of some
    commercial activity.
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    Most free software projects these days
    are controlled by
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    some commercial entity or another.
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    Debian is not.
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    I was at Debconf1 which was really
    exciting for me.
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    I was a young executive director of
    Free Software.
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    I showed this picture to Karen Sandler who
    I work with and said how different I look.
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    She said I don't look different at all,
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    but, speaking as the person that looks
    at that face in the mirror every morning,
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    there are a lot more lines on my face
    than there.
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    That is a smooth looking baby face that I
    had 14 years ago that I don't have anymore
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    I was pretty casual back then.
    I'm not in short trousers any more.
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    It's hard to see and you can see it in
    some of the other photos that I was.
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    Even in this heat like this I haven't
    worn short trousers in a very long time.
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    What's that? [bdale heckles]
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    Bdale, I was thinking about mentioning you
    and now I have to because you are heckling
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    me [laughter]. Bdale is the one adult
    in the room who can dress like
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    everybody else but I can't pull it off
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    I respect Bdale that he can.
    The tie-dye still works for him.
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    And I stopped wearing t-shirts years ago
    at conferences
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    and here I'm sweating in my long sleeves
    halfway between hacker and suit attire.
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    And there [in the photo] I'm talking to
    Martin Michmayer
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    I'm going to do questions at the end Lars,
    if that's ok.
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    I'm not good with questions because I
    get off topic easy.
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    I left 17 minutes at the end for questions
    which Bdale just took 3 of [laughter]
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    There I'm talking to Martin Michlmayer
    when I first met him.
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    A lot of things have changed since I
    looked at this photo.
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    But one thing that hasn't changed,
    you see this face that Martin is making.
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    He still makes that face at me every time
    I talk to him, which sort of says like
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    "You do not know what you are talking
    about". That hasn't changed, which is good
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    [laughter]. I'm glad he is laughing in the
    back there.
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    Some things have stayed the same.
    Martin still thinks I'm full of it.
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    And I probably am, so that's ok.
    I like people to keep me honest.
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    Other than jokes, the thing that hasn't
    really changed since I was first
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    introduced to the Debian community, in
    person, back in 2001,
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    is the ethos of this community is still
    the same one that I remember
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    even though a lot of the developers
    have changed.
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    I talked to somebody who had never
    even installed Debian when they were at
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    DebConf1. I talked to someone who was
    12 years old at the time of DebConf1.
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    I find it impressive that what I call the
    'morality of the hobbyist contributor'
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    still lives strongly in Debian.
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    The people in Debian want to do what is
    right for other people -
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    their users, co-developers,
    co-contributors.
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    They also volunteer to do that.
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    As I said before, that doesn't mean that
    they aren't being paid to do their work.
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    It's the classic free software thing: lots
    of people get paid to write free software.
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    What I've seen recently, in many free
    software projects, is that
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    companies have used that. I think
    OpenStack is one of the worst examples
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    of this. To control the project by hiring
    lots of it's developers.
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    They have this kindof pull over the
    project. I think that a lot of people that
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    work at OpenStack would say they are
    employers employee first and an
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    OpenStack contributor second.
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    I don't know anyone in Debian who would
    not say 'I am a Debian developer' first
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    and then I happen to be employed as a
    second issue.
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    Debian is their first priority.
    Their job is their second.
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    That hobbyist culture of 'my volunteer
    work matters more to me than
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    what actually pays me for a living'
    is the kind of mentality that I am such a
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    fan of. I try to live that in my own work
    as well.
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    I like interacting with the community.
    I usually find conferences very stressful.
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    This one I do not find as stressful
    other than I'm standing in a room with a
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    huge number of people. Other than that
    I don't find it stressful
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    because this is the kind of community
    that thinks that way.
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    I think a lot of it has to do with the
    other structures you have set up around
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    yourselves. The idea of having charities
    that you work with
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    which you have chosen to do a multi
    charity situation where you have lots
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    around the world that you can interact
    with.
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    One of them was founded by a Debian
    developer initially.
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    You reach out to other partnerships or
    charities as a non-commercial community
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    That allows you to have an infrastructure
    that you can rely on that helps
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    you maintain that community.
    I'm very glad that you do that.
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    I used to work for the FSF and am still on
    the board of directors.
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    Early in the project Debian was more or
    less a GNU project for a while.
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    It was part of the FSF. I know that
    relationship has never been perfect
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    sometimes rocky and sometimes better,
    but the FSF saw this in Debian too
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    very early on. That it was a really
    important way to begin the whole
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    distribution thing of free software and
    that culture was a match with
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    FSF's culture.
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    I know where the issues are and I'm
    sure John is here to talk about them.
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    But I think there is a lot of cultural
    connect between FSF and Debian.
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    I'm a little obsessed about this quote.
    I saw it in real time.
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    I was subscribed to comp.os.minux in Aug
    of '91 when it was posted
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    Part of it was that when I started working
    for the FSF I started thinking about it
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    and the FSF when I worked there had 7
    employees and still has under 20
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    That's not big.
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    So I don't think of it as big and I guess
    strictly speaking,
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    since the FSF is a very professional
    organisation, and to take the
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    strict definition professional means you
    get paid to do this thing,
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    you do it for a living - yes, the FSF
    staff are professionals
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    in all the ways you might use the word
    professional,
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    but I don't think that's what Linus
    was going for in this quote
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    I don't think he meant those normal things
    about professional
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    I think what he was going for is he was
    trying to create Linux back when he was
    humble
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    Because people forget Linus used to be
    really humble. Once upon a time.
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    [laughter]
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    I don't know... ok. I think some of his
    early posts were humble
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    but we can debate that I suppose.
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    One of the things that Linus understood
    well was that he wanted to create
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    a project where individuals collaborated
    together in their own capacity.
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    He wanted a hobbyist kind of culture and
    was interested in that kind of culture.
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    I think that what he got wrong was not
    realising how important charities are
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    to that culture and I think Debian has
    always got that right.
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    You've always interacted with charities
    in good ways.
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    I think you keep them at arms length,
    which is OK and reasonable, but
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    you've always seen the value,
    always seen the connection between being
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    a non-commercial hobbyist controlled
    project, very professional I think, but
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    still hobbyist controlled in a sense that
    you are volunteers doing the right things
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    for everyone in your community.
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    At the same time reaching out to these
    charities and letting them help you
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    get done what you need to get do in the
    logistical world outside of your project.
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    What I've seen in other projects that
    Debian has not suffered from
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    is the politics of the projects have
    bifurcated.
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    There's the technical politics which is
    the usual arguments about
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    this technology verses that technology
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    say, systemd verses upstart, something
    like that
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    and that, I think in almost every project
    still remains under developer control.
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    People who are developers decide
    technical decisions like that.
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    But the political governance in most other
    projects has been hijacked in my view.
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    By various different groups, depending on
    the project
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    but usually some mix of lawyers or
    business type people who are somehow
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    in for profit companies or industry
    associations,
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    that have taken over the political
    governance.
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    The reason they've succeeded in doing this
    I think is because most developers
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    care deeply about the technical politics,
    but not so much about the other politics.
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    They want to make those decisions once
    and leave them alone.
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    A lot of my work in Conservancy is to help
    developers make those decisions right once
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    and then be able to leave them alone
    without it having bite them later.
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    I think a lot of projects have faced that
    situation, where the non technical
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    politics of their projects are under the
    control of people who are
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    not members of the community, not really.
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    I think that has really happened to Linux.
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    I think that the Linux non technical
    politics are out of the hands of
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    the developers and it's a very sad thing,
    from my point of view
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    I think the companies control those
    politics
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    and they don't keep developers out
    entirely, but they gate keep
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    from letting certain developers into the
    politics of what's really going on in the
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    non technical space.
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    I've met many Linux developers who feel
    disenfranchised.
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    It's why Conservancy has a GPL enforcement
    project for Linux.
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    Because they've come to us to ask for
    someone who has a charitable mission
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    to do the right thing for the public good,
    as opposed to the what companies want.
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    I think that's what these charities serve.
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    If you look at any of these charities that
    we have out there,
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    Conservancy, Software in the Public
    Interest, FSF,
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    they do things for hobbyist developers
    that are the morally right thing to do
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    but are sometimes controversial
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    that developers actually really need,
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    maybe sometimes don't want to spend too
    much time on
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    because they're more interested in other
    things,
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    but companies and trade associations don't
    need them and in fact
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    they often oppose them.
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    As I said, we're doing at Conservancy the
    GPL enforcement for Linux
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    because it is not in the business interest
    of the companies who invest in Linux
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    to see the GPL enforced.
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    In many cases they actually oppose it
    being enforced at all.
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    Which brings me to copyleft generally.
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    My last talk to all of you was at DebConf
    10,
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    where I told you about GPL v3 and how
    wonderful it is and
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    how much I respected Debian's commitment
    to copyleft.
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    Now that's not to say everything in the
    archive is copyleft, I would guess that
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    most things in the archive aren't, as it
    turns out.
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    But there are many, many important things
    in Debian's archive that are copylefted
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    and many Debian meta-projects that you
    rely on every day as part of your
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    development that you have chosen to
    copyleft.
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    So I see Debian as a strongly connected
    project to the broader copyleft community
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    which I am heavily involved in.
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    Excessively involved in you might say.
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    The organisation I work for is funding
    a lawsuit, here in Germany
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    against VMware for violating the GPL for
    a very long time and refusing to comply.
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    Christoph Hellwig is the plaintiff. It is
    in a Berlin court.
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    Till Jaeger is his lawyer and you have to
    read the FAQ.
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    I am, admittedly, not as comfortable with
    the German legal system as the US.
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    I am used to the US where everything is
    public.
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    The German legal system doesn't work
    that way.
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    I respect the cultural difference and
    therefore we put what we could in the FAQ
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    so you could go read it.
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    So if you were hoping to hear all about
    the VMware lawsuit in this talk this is
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    the only slide that covers it, sorry to
    say.
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    You can load your browser and look at the
    FAQ I guess.
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    The interesting thing that I can talk
    about is the aftermath in the politics in
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    the community that I think a lot of
    people, even people in this room got wrong
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    about what was going to happen after we
    sued VMware.
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    I have myself been a little bit surprised
    that the response by many for profit
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    companies (in the back channels, this has
    not been in press releases, obviously)
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    has been to attempt to eradicate copyleft
    entirely, or at the very least
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    stop its enforcement.
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    At this point, for anybody who wants to
    make a strong commitment like Christoph,
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    like me, to spend a lot of time enforcing
    GPL, it is an extremely, politically
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    treacherous decision.
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    We have people in our GPL enforcement
    project for Linux at Conservancy who
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    insist on anonymity because they are
    terrified it will affect their ability to
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    get jobs, and other things if they're even
    heard to be talking to people who do
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    enforcement.
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    I think what's happened is that the people
    who have always been against copyleft
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    subtly and quietly now see there's some
    chinks in the armour.
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    There are very few people still enforcing
    the copyleft.
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    The only two organisations doing it as
    part of a charity are the FSF and
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    Conservany.
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    It's a time for the sharks to circle and
    see if they can finish off the rest.
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    That's what I think is happening.
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    Now, this matters to you.
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    Even if you don't care that much about
    copyleft, it matters.
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    Ubuntu was violating your copyrights for
    two years.
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    They had a trademark policy that
    contradicted the GPL.
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    It's a violation of the GPL.
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    The Free Software Foundation and
    Conservacy worked very, very hard for two
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    years to get it resolved.
    It's been resolved.
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    The trademark policy, as it stands - you
    can read the statements on both
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    Conservancy and FSF's websites - is in
    compliance with the GPL.
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    I'm glad that Canonical eventually did the
    right thing.
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    However, you've got to read the
    fine print.
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    Because what they've done is they've said
    "Well, by using this trump clause thing to
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    comply", it means that all the non
    copylefted software (from Debian which of
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    course then ends up in Ubuntu) is then
    propitiatorized, effectively, when it goes
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    into Ubuntu, because all these additional
    restrictions and terms in the trademark
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    policy that are contradictory to copyleft,
    the trump clause passes them out for
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    copyleft so you can't have those
    contradicting copyleft, but they happily
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    don't contradict the two clause BSD
    license, or the Apache software license or
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    various other licenses.
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    A lot is being proprietarized, now it's
    totally permissible by the copyright
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    license, but I would encourage everyone
    in the Debian community to think about
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    how much you like that.
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    Because your goal is to make everything in
    main be DFSG free, but when it gets into
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    Ubuntu main it automatically (if it's not
    copylefted) falls under this trademark
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    policy that's unfriendly to free software
    and I would argue DFSG non-free.
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    I think we're facing some really tough
    challenges.
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    I believe free software has been largely
    co-opted by for profit companies.
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    That's why I still say free software and
    not open source, because I think
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    source (I actually agree with RMS about
    this) is a term that allows companies to
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    take the good parts they want from free
    software and leave the political stuff
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    that many of us care about and still be
    able to exploit it for their own purposes.
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    Meanwhile, Debian is a hugely important
    political part of what's happening.
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    Because Debian is this really important
    non-commercial project.
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    Probably the largest non-commercial
    project of it's kind that's still
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    extremely relevant in the free software
    community.
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    Your long history and your good governance
    have insulated you from a lot of these
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    politics that have happened in other
    projects.
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    What's happened to OpenStack would never
    happen to Debian, because you're too
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    old for it to happen to you.
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    It's just kinda nice that it works out
    that way.
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    There's some usefulness in being old.
    [laughter]
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    Eventually the pressure will catch up to
    you.
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    Somebody's going to do it.
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    Canonical just tried it and didn't succeed
    thanks to the fact that we stopped them
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    but someone else will come along and try
    to do it next.
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    I think it's just a harbinger of things to
    come at this point and copyleft is going
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    to matter more and more to Debian as time
    goes on because it is the thing standing
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    between these kinds of manoeuvres and
    free software.
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    I always see Debian as a key building
    block of other free software.
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    People build stuff on top of Debian all
    the time.
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    I find in my work investigating GPL
    violations plenty of times where it's a
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    Debian system they just took and then
    gave no source code and moved it into a
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    product and violated the GPL.
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    That means that people who are powerful
    and corrupt will want to control it,
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    because it's essential and if they could
    somehow take control of Debian they could
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    control a lot of the software world.
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    I think they can't get control of you,
    because of the way you're organised, but
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    that doesn't mean they're not going to
    try.
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    Now, I think that is so successful because
    Debian has always been about people.
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    The decision to make the Debian Developer
    - and I know it's different know, but
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    originally the Debian Developer was the
    pinnacle of how you became part of this
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    community, you passed your Debian
    Developer stuff, which I've never been
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    able to pass, because I'm lame - but I
    always believe that people oriented
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    manner of operating was essential to how
    that worked.
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    Now since that first DebConf, I admit I've
    not spent much of my time with developers,
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    certainly not as much as I would have
    liked.
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    I spend most of my time around lawyers and
    business people in the last 13 or 14 years
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    and they look at Debian or in fact any
    free software very differently.
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    Most of these people look at it not about
    the people, they see people as basically
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    fungible - any developer's good as the
    next, right? From a business person's
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    perspective.
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    But the assets that sit there, things like
    copyrights.
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    That they look at as the output of Debian,
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    the value that Debian generates.
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    There is a certain technical correctness
    to that, it's like until you write
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    something down it doesn't exist, kind of
    thing,
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    so the fact that Debian generates
    copyrights as you all are doing your work,
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    packaging packages, writing documentation,
    everything that you do.
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    That's the record of what you did, which
    is then copyrightable, so there's a
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    certain logic to this lawyer's way of
    looking at Debian, so say
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    "Oh, it's just the assets. There's some
    trademarks, some copyrights yada yada"
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    What I think you should all think about in
    response to that is maybe there's some
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    value to that, maybe you should leverage
    the assets we have as a way to fight for
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    ourselves, fight for good cause of free
    software.
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    The one way to look at copyleft is and
    this is one I like almost the best,
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    is that it's really just a mechanism to
    leverage assets, which lots of us agree
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    shouldn't exist - I'm not a fan of
    copyright by any means, but you take those
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    assets that are forced upon you basically
    by the system we live in and try to
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    utilize them in some novel way to maximise
    fairness and goodness and benefit to other
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    people.
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    I wrote an essay years ago with Richard
    Stallman about this, about how the power
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    to chose a license on software is this
    inappropriate power that people shouldn't
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    get. They get it anyway, so the only thing
    we can do is make a good choice about our
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    licenses to neutralise the power we should
    never have been given to start with.
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    I often talk about this as using the tools
    of the oppressor against the oppressor.
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    If we're going to do that, that means we
    have to look at every tool they use with
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    regard to copyright.
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    We've generally just looked at the
    licensing tool.
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    The tool of "what license do I put on my
    software", that's how I'll do it.
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    I'll put a copyleft license so that I'm
    defending software freedom by putting
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    a copyleft licence on my code, but I think
    Debian could go even further and use these
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    tools in additional ways to help defend
    software freedom.
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    With that, I'd like to announce a thing
    that Conservancy is doing for Debian.
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    This was officially put into place in
    April.
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    We waited to announce it until my keynote
    here because we knew I was going to be
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    keynoting.
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    It's an agreement that has been signed
    between the DPL and the Conservancy
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    to offer the following services to the
    Debian project,
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    all of which are optional to all Debian
    Developers.
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    It's a programme begun under the Software
    Freedom Conservancy, and we recognise
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    that as a member of SPI we asked SPI if
    it's ok if we did this before we did it
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    because we wanted to make sure we weren't
    offending your other charity organisation
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    in the United States, and they agreed that
    this was fine.
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    It permits any Debian Developer who would
    like to, to optionally, and in a
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    configurable way, assign any copyrights in
    their Debian related works to Conservancy
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    if they would like to.
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    If they don't want to do that, it also
    permits them, if they would like, to sign
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    an enforcement agreement with Conservancy,
    to ask Conservancy to enforce free
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    software licenses on behalf of that
    developer and that's an agreement that
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    can be cancelled, I'll talk more about
    that in a minute.
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    Probably of the most interest to a lot of
    you because it's going to come up the most
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    often is Conservancy will provide
    licensing support and advice on an ongoing
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    basis for the Debian Project, and I'll
    talk more later on how we're going to
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    do that.
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    The whole reason this exists is because a
    key Debian contributor came to us and
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    asked us to do it and we were happy to do
    it, and I'll talk about who that was in a
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    few minutes.
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    First, I felt I have to talk about this,
    because I've spend a lot of years lately,
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    in fact the last time I was in Germany, I
    was here to debate Mark Shuttleworth about
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    copyright assignment.
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    The fact that I've just pitched to you
    that copyright assignment is now available
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    for Debian Developers I'm sure is probably
    leaving you to wonder a little bit.
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    It's certainly true that the kinds of
    problems that I'm talking about
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    sometimes come out from the fact that
    for profit companies come to
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    free software developers and convince
    them to assign copyright to that company
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    or they ask them to sign some
    heavyweight contributor license
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    agreement which has the almost legal
    identical effect of a copyright assignment
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    The reason they do that is because they
    want to, usually, make proprietary
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    versions of those copyrighted works, or
    otherwise exploit them in some way
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    that the free software license, that they
    would have got anyway,
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    would not allow them to do.
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    I'm against all that.
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    I'm opposed to using copyright
    assignment in that way.
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    But then when I think about the original
    motivations of copyleft it always was
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    using tools that were not totally
    comfortable with existing at all
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    against themselves. So why not look at
    copyright assignment this way:
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    If you only assign your copyright to
    charities that take a good strong stand
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    for software freedom you be able to
    maximize the benefits of your
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    copyrights allowing an organization that,
    say, enforces the GPL or otherwise
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    trying to do the right things with those
    copyrights to advance software freedom
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    you can help that work along by doing
    that.
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    The other point I want to make is that
    the only reason those nefarious uses
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    of copyright assignment can ever work
    is because they collect 100%
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    of copyright.
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    I think no project should have
    consolidated copyright at 100%
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    any more. I think that's an antiquated
    way of thinking.
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    I would encourage Debian to have multi
    copyright held forever which it probably
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    will. There will never be a single
    copyright holder of Debian I'm sure.
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    Even if you just took the parts that
    Debian developers had contributed,
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    not all of them are going to sign to
    one entity.
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    Even if a few Debian developers assign
    to Conservancy or many there will still be
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    a nice diverse copyright base which I
    think creates a healthy community.
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    There's a very sad but simply true reason
    that copyright assignment is important.
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    This is from the Debian history file.
    We've lost people in our community.
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    We will lose more as time goes on.
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    Most of this community is very young but
    I'm ageing and we are all ageing at the
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    same rate, more or less.
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    You need to think about that question.
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    What happens if something happens to
    me.
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    What happens to my contributions to
    the community?
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    What do they do?
    Where do they go?
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    I think we should think about that.
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    I've had to talk to developers heirs on
    the phone to get licensing problems
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    fixed. It's one of the most horrible things
    I've ever had to do on my job.
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    Think for yourself about: do you want
    your heirs or people who are in charge
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    of your copyrights when you pass
    having to do that.
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    The other less sad problem is that
    people forget to take care of things.
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    They put them off, especially when they
    are boring and annoying.
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    So things like copyright enforcement or
    copyleft enforcement tends
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    not to happen.
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    I know from my years and years of
    experience doing it that
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    there are constantly hundreds and
    hundreds of violations all the time.
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    All of them are urgent, more or less,
    because they are all really
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    hurting users.
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    I don't know about you, but when
    you have a bug queue
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    where every single bug is critical,
    none of them are critical, right?
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    Because then it's ,like, over, the project
    is screwed.
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    That's how GPL enforcement has felt for
    years and years and years.
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    While you can think about how having
    your own copyrights is my privilege
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    to have and use, it's actually also a
    burden.
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    If you care about the license you chose
    and people are ignoring it broadly all
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    around the world all the time violating
    the copyleft (I also see lots of violations
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    of non-copyleft licenses too) you don't
    have a mandatory requirement to enforce
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    but if you care about the license you
    kinda should be feeling 'gee, I should
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    take care of that and make sure that the
    license is respected.
Titolo:
ftp.acc.umu.se/.../Debians_Central_Role_in_the_Future_of_Software_Freedom.webm
Video Language:
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Team:
Debconf
Progetto:
2015_debconf15

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