WEBVTT 00:00:00.271 --> 00:00:03.186 【音乐】介绍:卫报 00:00:09.241 --> 00:00:10.712 欢迎来到“ 每周科学”节目 00:00:11.753 --> 00:00:14.161 我们正在跟进新冠病毒疫情 00:00:14.161 --> 00:00:17.638 并探究一些从中暴露的科学问题。 00:00:18.523 --> 00:00:21.722 在今天的这集节目中,我们将关注阴谋论: 00:00:22.500 --> 00:00:26.019 现在很多人通过社交媒体 00:00:26.019 --> 00:00:27.434 获得有关新冠病毒的信息。 00:00:27.434 --> 00:00:30.561 但并不是网络上所有的信息都是可靠的。 00:00:30.847 --> 00:00:34.510 5G基站着火了。5G****!耶! 00:00:34.510 --> 00:00:37.258 它降低你的免疫能力,让人健康状况下降! 00:00:37.277 --> 00:00:40.972 对于阴谋论者来说, 00:00:40.972 --> 00:00:43.213 新冠疫情打开了奇怪的新世界的大门。 00:00:43.213 --> 00:00:47.870 新冠病毒是在实验室中通过生物工程加工出来的武器, 00:00:47.870 --> 00:00:50.139 或者是一种控制人口数量的手段。 00:00:50.139 --> 00:00:52.299 各位,你们知道你们现在在做什么吗? 00:00:52.299 --> 00:00:55.262 对,你们在铺设5G网络。所以,你知道它能杀人吗? 00:00:55.262 --> 00:00:58.069 它吸收氧气。这简直是胡说八道! 00:00:58.069 --> 00:00:59.986 却也是有危害的胡说八道。 00:01:00.175 --> 00:01:02.773 5G是阴谋论者最喜欢的目标, 00:01:02.773 --> 00:01:05.306 早在新冠病毒出现之前就是这样。而现在, 00:01:05.725 --> 00:01:07.923 这个谬论只是稍微调整了一下。 00:01:08.526 --> 00:01:11.411 这并不是一个观点或者一个有趣的阴谋论, 00:01:11.411 --> 00:01:13.245 这就是胡扯而已。 00:01:14.864 --> 00:01:18.753 那么是阴谋论中的什么让它在危急时刻 00:01:18.753 --> 00:01:20.130 如此吸引人呢? 00:01:20.336 --> 00:01:22.247 我们打到它们的最好办法又是什么呢? 00:01:22.936 --> 00:01:25.491 我是伊恩·桑普,卫报的科技编辑, 00:01:25.816 --> 00:01:27.414 您正在收看每周科学。 00:01:31.436 --> 00:01:33.136 我是丹尼尔·乔利博士。 00:01:33.342 --> 00:01:37.484 我是就职于英国纽卡斯尔市诺森比亚大学的心理学高级讲师, 00:01:37.484 --> 00:01:43.219 我的研究专长是阴谋论中的心理学。 00:01:43.219 --> 00:01:44.829 丹,你好,最近怎么样? 00:01:44.845 --> 00:01:47.159 最近很好,非常感谢能要请我来。 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.341 那么,丹,我们从最基本的开始吧, 00:01:49.341 --> 00:01:53.786 什么事阴谋论,比如它和假消息有什么不同? 00:01:54.234 --> 00:01:58.421 假消息和阴谋论最大的不同在于阴谋论是 00:01:58.421 --> 00:02:03.739 由一个强大的组织为了自身利益内部编造的想法。 00:02:04.011 --> 00:02:10.113 有些事情只是假的,是因为其中没有隐藏动机。 00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:12.289 我的意思是有一个最基本的不同, 00:02:12.291 --> 00:02:14.569 那就是指着一群人 00:02:14.569 --> 00:02:19.217 谴责他们的错误,就比如把病毒归咎于他们。 00:02:19.587 --> 00:02:22.292 大体来讲,是阴谋论的什么方面 00:02:22.292 --> 00:02:24.508 让它们如此吸引我们呢? 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:28.363 阴谋论一般在危急时刻出现, 00:02:28.363 --> 00:02:33.715 也就是我们需要感到有把握,有信心的时候。 00:02:34.166 --> 00:02:37.565 但在这种突发危机中,我们却感到害怕, 00:02:37.567 --> 00:02:39.856 不确定发生了什么, 00:02:39.958 --> 00:02:42.672 这也正是新冠疫情中我们所经历的。 00:02:42.672 --> 00:02:45.499 我总觉得相信阴谋论 00:02:45.499 --> 00:02:48.902 会使人更加焦急,但是事实上听起来, 00:02:48.902 --> 00:02:50.431 它们有相反的作用。 00:02:50.431 --> 00:02:53.216 这就很有趣了。 00:02:53.964 --> 00:02:56.968 相信的人们需要感到事情受控, 00:02:56.968 --> 00:02:59.787 但阴谋论对他们的影响可能恰恰是暂时的。 00:02:59.787 --> 00:03:02.972 它们看起来很吸引人,但却不够令人满意。 00:03:03.167 --> 00:03:06.796 明显的是暴露于阴谋论中的人们 00:03:06.796 --> 00:03:09.929 实际上比周围的人有更深的不信任。 00:03:10.130 --> 00:03:12.539 阴谋论事实上增强了他们的焦虑。 00:03:12.830 --> 00:03:17.116 很多时候是因为如果你不赞同某一个阴谋论, 00:03:17.116 --> 00:03:19.353 你就会开始怀疑别的事情, 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.230 这说明它在一点点增加你的不信任, 00:03:22.230 --> 00:03:27.644 然后你就会对你生活的社会感到有点不确定。 00:03:27.818 --> 00:03:32.173 这样一来当它们在危急时刻浮现的时候,就会让我们暂时 00:03:32.279 --> 00:03:35.361 觉得更加安全,但这并不会持续多久。 00:03:35.903 --> 00:03:38.531 这对于你来说一定是一个爆发时期, 00:03:38.699 --> 00:03:41.712 因为研究阴谋论的某些人,我的意思是, 00:03:41.869 --> 00:03:45.256 你知道的,他们中最近活跃的一伙人,我们从5G基站、 00:03:45.256 --> 00:03:48.560 中国实验室流出的人造病毒这些中看到了。我是说, 00:03:48.795 --> 00:03:53.131 到底是什么让一个流行病看起来能让那么多人焦虑? 00:03:53.563 --> 00:03:58.273 在引起阴谋论大潮这方面,新冠疫情并不是个案。 00:04:00.892 --> 00:04:03.444 回头想想2015年的寨卡, 00:04:03.444 --> 00:04:07.400 曾经有阴谋论认为寨卡是人造武器。 00:04:07.653 --> 00:04:12.055 但寨卡是一种引起南非和加勒比海地区出行警告的 00:04:12.055 --> 00:04:14.290 通过蚊子传播的病毒。 00:04:14.354 --> 00:04:17.911 寨卡是基因编辑蚊子带来的吗? 00:04:18.081 --> 00:04:22.406 我们正在核查这个在脸书上流行的阴谋论。 00:04:22.666 --> 00:04:24.833 阴谋论在现在这样一个人们都在谈论 00:04:25.041 --> 00:04:28.169 极端不确定性的时候浮现得很恰当。 00:04:28.448 --> 00:04:33.650 00:04:33.931 --> 00:04:36.254 同样的事情发生在新冠疫情上 00:04:36.438 --> 00:04:40.473 特朗普政府重复强调新冠病毒 00:04:40.506 --> 00:04:46.017 可能是从中国武汉实验室中流窜出来的,而不是 00:04:46.036 --> 00:04:50.284 如主流医学理论认为病毒来自武汉某海鲜市场的动物。 00:04:51.074 --> 00:04:54.644 由于世界非常混乱,而这又为所发生的一切 00:04:55.546 --> 00:04:57.908 提供了有形的谴责对象。 00:05:00.789 --> 00:05:05.752 这样的话,听起来阴谋论在任一大事件面前 00:05:05.752 --> 00:05:08.734 爆发是很正常的。 00:05:08.734 --> 00:05:12.747 难道你认为就因为阴谋论在新媒体上传播 00:05:12.747 --> 00:05:14.541 我们现在就看到了或者知道了更多吗? 00:05:14.684 --> 00:05:18.590 00:05:18.590 --> 00:05:23.004 00:05:23.004 --> 00:05:27.408 00:05:27.408 --> 00:05:32.417 00:05:32.417 --> 00:05:37.834 00:05:37.834 --> 00:05:43.207 00:05:43.207 --> 00:05:49.179 00:05:49.179 --> 00:05:53.220 00:05:53.220 --> 00:05:58.786 00:05:58.786 --> 00:06:00.775 00:06:03.298 --> 00:06:04.298 00:06:05.060 --> 00:06:05.941 00:06:05.941 --> 00:06:06.542 00:06:06.542 --> 00:06:07.144 00:06:07.144 --> 00:06:12.214 00:06:12.214 --> 00:06:17.748 00:06:17.748 --> 00:06:22.436 00:06:22.993 --> 00:06:27.317 00:06:27.317 --> 00:06:31.604 00:06:31.604 --> 00:06:37.826 00:06:37.826 --> 00:06:42.199 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:46.607 00:06:46.607 --> 00:06:51.455 00:06:51.455 --> 00:06:58.329 00:06:58.329 --> 00:07:03.826 00:07:03.826 --> 00:07:08.404 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:08.404 --> 00:07:09.928 00:07:11.456 --> 00:07:14.326 00:07:14.486 --> 00:07:19.666 00:07:19.666 --> 00:07:24.669 00:07:24.669 --> 00:07:29.191 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:29.191 --> 00:07:32.707 00:07:32.707 --> 00:07:37.136 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:37.136 --> 00:07:42.890 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:43.188 --> 00:07:47.356 00:07:47.602 --> 00:07:52.494 00:07:52.911 --> 00:07:59.134 00:07:59.134 --> 00:08:00.676 00:08:01.193 --> 00:08:05.401 00:08:05.401 --> 00:08:10.118 00:08:10.118 --> 00:08:15.146 00:08:15.146 --> 00:08:20.195 00:08:21.048 --> 00:08:26.261 00:08:26.261 --> 00:08:30.630 00:08:30.630 --> 00:08:33.831 00:08:34.075 --> 00:08:37.502 00:08:37.418 --> 00:08:43.653 00:08:43.653 --> 00:08:46.315 00:08:46.315 --> 00:08:51.511 00:08:51.511 --> 00:08:55.656 00:08:55.656 --> 00:08:57.344 00:08:57.574 --> 00:09:00.618 00:09:00.618 --> 00:09:04.374 00:09:04.374 --> 00:09:07.224 00:09:07.771 --> 00:09:11.942 00:09:12.358 --> 00:09:16.087 00:09:16.087 --> 00:09:18.933 00:09:18.933 --> 00:09:23.357 00:09:23.693 --> 00:09:27.033 00:09:27.033 --> 00:09:30.647 00:09:30.822 --> 00:09:32.829 00:09:32.829 --> 00:09:37.502 00:09:37.512 --> 00:09:41.812 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:47.760 00:09:47.760 --> 00:09:52.212 00:09:52.212 --> 00:09:57.619 00:09:57.619 --> 00:10:01.006 00:10:05.558 --> 00:10:10.279 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:15.766 00:10:15.766 --> 00:10:21.495 00:10:21.495 --> 00:10:26.882 00:10:26.896 --> 00:10:30.666 00:10:30.666 --> 00:10:32.439 00:10:33.369 --> 00:10:37.046 00:10:37.581 --> 00:10:42.613 00:10:42.613 --> 00:10:48.217 00:10:50.645 --> 00:10:55.923 00:10:55.923 --> 00:11:02.235 00:11:02.235 --> 00:11:07.026 00:11:07.761 --> 00:11:11.489 00:11:14.545 --> 00:11:20.660 00:11:20.660 --> 00:11:24.811 00:11:25.511 --> 00:11:30.813 00:11:30.813 --> 00:11:36.479 00:11:36.658 --> 00:11:41.629 00:11:41.629 --> 00:11:44.688 00:11:44.696 --> 00:11:48.664 00:11:48.664 --> 00:11:55.019 00:11:55.019 --> 00:11:59.135 00:11:59.135 --> 00:12:05.567 00:12:05.567 --> 00:12:11.952 00:12:11.952 --> 00:12:17.034 00:12:17.034 --> 00:12:22.316 00:12:22.316 --> 00:12:26.947 00:12:26.947 --> 00:12:30.825 00:12:30.825 --> 00:12:35.004 00:12:35.004 --> 00:12:39.534 00:12:39.534 --> 00:12:43.557 00:12:43.557 --> 00:12:49.631 00:12:49.631 --> 00:12:54.847 00:12:54.847 --> 00:12:59.193 00:12:59.193 --> 00:13:03.790 00:13:03.790 --> 00:13:04.625 00:13:05.028 --> 00:13:09.690 00:13:09.690 --> 00:13:15.441 00:13:15.441 --> 00:13:18.684 00:13:18.684 --> 00:13:24.117 00:13:24.117 --> 00:13:28.933 00:13:28.933 --> 00:13:35.362 00:13:35.362 --> 00:13:41.271 00:13:41.271 --> 00:13:45.608 00:13:45.608 --> 00:13:51.476 00:13:51.476 --> 00:13:54.335 00:13:58.445 --> 00:14:01.788 00:14:01.891 --> 00:14:03.253 00:14:05.843 --> 00:14:10.275 00:14:10.275 --> 00:14:14.376 00:14:14.376 --> 00:14:20.527 00:14:20.527 --> 00:14:24.523 00:14:24.523 --> 00:14:25.425 00:14:25.425 --> 00:14:29.788 00:14:29.788 --> 00:14:34.954 00:14:34.954 --> 00:14:40.086 00:14:40.086 --> 00:14:45.201 00:14:45.201 --> 00:14:48.711 00:14:58.217 --> 00:15:01.542 00:15:01.567 --> 00:15:04.960