1 00:00:00,271 --> 00:00:03,186 【音乐】介绍:卫报 2 00:00:09,241 --> 00:00:10,712 欢迎来到“ 每周科学”节目 3 00:00:11,753 --> 00:00:14,161 我们正在跟进新冠病毒疫情 4 00:00:14,161 --> 00:00:17,638 并探究一些从中暴露的科学问题。 5 00:00:18,523 --> 00:00:21,722 在今天的这集节目中,我们将关注阴谋论: 6 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:26,019 现在很多人通过社交媒体 7 00:00:26,019 --> 00:00:27,434 获得有关新冠病毒的信息。 8 00:00:27,434 --> 00:00:30,561 但并不是网络上所有的信息都是可靠的。 9 00:00:30,847 --> 00:00:34,510 5G基站着火了。5G****!耶! 10 00:00:34,510 --> 00:00:37,258 它降低你的免疫能力,让人健康状况下降! 11 00:00:37,277 --> 00:00:40,972 对于阴谋论者来说, 12 00:00:40,972 --> 00:00:43,213 新冠疫情打开了奇怪的新世界的大门。 13 00:00:43,213 --> 00:00:47,870 新冠病毒是在实验室中通过生物工程加工出来的武器, 14 00:00:47,870 --> 00:00:50,139 或者是一种控制人口数量的手段。 15 00:00:50,139 --> 00:00:52,299 各位,你们知道你们现在在做什么吗? 16 00:00:52,299 --> 00:00:55,262 对,你们在铺设5G网络。所以,你知道它能杀人吗? 17 00:00:55,262 --> 00:00:58,069 它吸收氧气。这简直是胡说八道! 18 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:59,986 却也是有危害的胡说八道。 19 00:01:00,175 --> 00:01:02,773 5G是阴谋论者最喜欢的目标, 20 00:01:02,773 --> 00:01:05,306 早在新冠病毒出现之前就是这样。而现在, 21 00:01:05,725 --> 00:01:07,923 这个谬论只是稍微调整了一下。 22 00:01:08,526 --> 00:01:11,411 这并不是一个观点或者一个有趣的阴谋论, 23 00:01:11,411 --> 00:01:13,245 这就是胡扯而已。 24 00:01:14,864 --> 00:01:18,753 那么是阴谋论中的什么让它在危急时刻 25 00:01:18,753 --> 00:01:20,130 如此吸引人呢? 26 00:01:20,336 --> 00:01:22,247 我们打到它们的最好办法又是什么呢? 27 00:01:22,936 --> 00:01:25,491 我是伊恩·桑普,卫报的科技编辑, 28 00:01:25,816 --> 00:01:27,414 您正在收看每周科学。 29 00:01:31,436 --> 00:01:33,136 我是丹尼尔·乔利博士。 30 00:01:33,342 --> 00:01:37,484 我是就职于英国纽卡斯尔市诺森比亚大学的心理学高级讲师, 31 00:01:37,484 --> 00:01:43,219 我的研究专长是阴谋论中的心理学。 32 00:01:43,219 --> 00:01:44,829 丹,你好,最近怎么样? 33 00:01:44,845 --> 00:01:47,159 最近很好,非常感谢能要请我来。 34 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:49,341 那么,丹,我们从最基本的开始吧, 35 00:01:49,341 --> 00:01:53,786 什么事阴谋论,比如它和假消息有什么不同? 36 00:01:54,234 --> 00:01:58,421 假消息和阴谋论最大的不同在于阴谋论是 37 00:01:58,421 --> 00:02:03,739 由一个强大的组织为了自身利益内部编造的想法。 38 00:02:04,011 --> 00:02:10,113 有些事情只是假的,是因为其中没有隐藏动机。 39 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:12,289 我的意思是有一个最基本的不同, 40 00:02:12,291 --> 00:02:14,569 那就是指着一群人 41 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:19,217 谴责他们的错误,就比如把病毒归咎于他们。 42 00:02:19,587 --> 00:02:22,292 大体来讲,是阴谋论的什么方面 43 00:02:22,292 --> 00:02:24,508 让它们如此吸引我们呢? 44 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:28,363 阴谋论一般在危急时刻出现, 45 00:02:28,363 --> 00:02:33,715 也就是我们需要感到有把握,有信心的时候。 46 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:37,565 但在这种突发危机中,我们却感到害怕, 47 00:02:37,567 --> 00:02:39,856 不确定发生了什么, 48 00:02:39,958 --> 00:02:42,672 这也正是新冠疫情中我们所经历的。 49 00:02:42,672 --> 00:02:45,499 我总觉得相信阴谋论 50 00:02:45,499 --> 00:02:48,902 会使人更加焦急,但是事实上听起来, 51 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:50,431 它们有相反的作用。 52 00:02:50,431 --> 00:02:53,216 这就很有趣了。 53 00:02:53,964 --> 00:02:56,968 相信的人们需要感到事情受控, 54 00:02:56,968 --> 00:02:59,787 但阴谋论对他们的影响可能恰恰是暂时的。 55 00:02:59,787 --> 00:03:02,972 它们看起来很吸引人,但却不够令人满意。 56 00:03:03,167 --> 00:03:06,796 明显的是暴露于阴谋论中的人们 57 00:03:06,796 --> 00:03:09,929 实际上比周围的人有更深的不信任。 58 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:12,539 阴谋论事实上增强了他们的焦虑。 59 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:17,116 很多时候是因为如果你不赞同某一个阴谋论, 60 00:03:17,116 --> 00:03:19,353 你就会开始怀疑别的事情, 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,230 这说明它在一点点增加你的不信任, 62 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:27,644 然后你就会对你生活的社会感到有点不确定。 63 00:03:27,818 --> 00:03:32,173 这样一来当它们在危急时刻浮现的时候,就会让我们暂时 64 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:35,361 觉得更加安全,但这并不会持续多久。 65 00:03:35,903 --> 00:03:38,531 这对于你来说一定是一个爆发时期, 66 00:03:38,699 --> 00:03:41,712 因为研究阴谋论的某些人,我的意思是, 67 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:45,256 你知道的,他们中最近活跃的一伙人,我们从5G基站、 68 00:03:45,256 --> 00:03:48,560 中国实验室流出的人造病毒这些中看到了。我是说, 69 00:03:48,795 --> 00:03:53,131 到底是什么让一个流行病看起来能让那么多人焦虑? 70 00:03:53,563 --> 00:03:58,273 在引起阴谋论大潮这方面,新冠疫情并不是个案。 71 00:04:00,892 --> 00:04:03,444 回头想想2015年的寨卡, 72 00:04:03,444 --> 00:04:07,400 曾经有阴谋论认为寨卡是人造武器。 73 00:04:07,653 --> 00:04:12,055 但寨卡是一种引起南非和加勒比海地区出行警告的 74 00:04:12,055 --> 00:04:14,290 通过蚊子传播的病毒。 75 00:04:14,354 --> 00:04:17,911 寨卡是基因编辑蚊子带来的吗? 76 00:04:18,081 --> 00:04:22,406 我们正在核查这个在脸书上流行的阴谋论。 77 00:04:22,666 --> 00:04:24,833 阴谋论在现在这样一个人们都在谈论 78 00:04:25,041 --> 00:04:28,169 极端不确定性的时候浮现得很恰当。 79 00:04:28,448 --> 00:04:33,650 80 00:04:33,931 --> 00:04:36,254 同样的事情发生在新冠疫情上 81 00:04:36,438 --> 00:04:40,473 特朗普政府重复强调新冠病毒 82 00:04:40,506 --> 00:04:46,017 可能是从中国武汉实验室中流窜出来的,而不是 83 00:04:46,036 --> 00:04:50,284 如主流医学理论认为病毒来自武汉某海鲜市场的动物。 84 00:04:51,074 --> 00:04:54,644 由于世界非常混乱,而这又为所发生的一切 85 00:04:55,546 --> 00:04:57,908 提供了有形的谴责对象。 86 00:05:00,789 --> 00:05:05,752 这样的话,听起来阴谋论在任一大事件面前 87 00:05:05,752 --> 00:05:08,734 爆发是很正常的。 88 00:05:08,734 --> 00:05:12,747 难道你认为就因为阴谋论在新媒体上传播 89 00:05:12,747 --> 00:05:14,541 我们现在就看到了或者知道了更多吗? 90 00:05:14,684 --> 00:05:18,590 91 00:05:18,590 --> 00:05:23,004 92 00:05:23,004 --> 00:05:27,408 93 00:05:27,408 --> 00:05:32,417 94 00:05:32,417 --> 00:05:37,834 95 00:05:37,834 --> 00:05:43,207 96 00:05:43,207 --> 00:05:49,179 97 00:05:49,179 --> 00:05:53,220 98 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:58,786 99 00:05:58,786 --> 00:06:00,775 100 00:06:03,298 --> 00:06:04,298 101 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:05,941 102 00:06:05,941 --> 00:06:06,542 103 00:06:06,542 --> 00:06:07,144 104 00:06:07,144 --> 00:06:12,214 105 00:06:12,214 --> 00:06:17,748 106 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