0:00:00.522,0:00:01.951 there is a bug 0:00:01.951,0:00:05.650 I can not realy on clicking on the terminal to open a link in a browser 0:00:05.650,0:00:08.871 because there is currently a bug in konsole with a k 0:00:08.871,0:00:12.441 that opens link in random browsers 0:00:14.761,0:00:19.002 and i learned that i have a browser installed that i didnt know existed 0:00:19.012,0:00:22.560 its called eric6 0:00:22.621,0:00:30.261 and if you have the eric python[br]graphical development environment installed 0:00:31.041,0:00:38.240 it contains a browser and it maps it to mine 0:00:38.240,0:00:43.001 and if you have a terminal that for some reason open browsers at random 0:00:43.001,0:00:47.101 you get links to open in that 0:00:47.101,0:00:49.492 so ill copy and paste the urls 0:00:49.492,0:00:51.221 it will be slighly slower 0:00:51.221,0:00:53.900 i think i have 5 minutes still to go 0:00:58.040,0:01:01.731 time passes quickly when you have fun 0:01:04.601,0:01:07.602 audience: install terminator! 0:01:07.602,0:01:09.010 enrico: no 0:01:09.010,0:01:14.041 if look at my blog, there is a list of my[br]requirements for terminal emulators 0:01:14.041,0:01:17.081 and the reason they all suck 0:01:17.081,0:01:20.062 all the bits that do not work 0:01:20.062,0:01:24.421 now terminator is in that list,[br]it has things that dont work for me 0:01:24.421,0:01:27.861 but we have the upstream for[br]lxterminal at the conference 0:01:27.861,0:01:31.102 that has seen the list and went like 0:01:31.102,0:01:33.781 that i implemented 2 days ago 0:01:33.781,0:01:35.541 that is in my todo list now 0:01:35.541,0:01:39.321 that, let me have a look at the code,[br]yes i can do it 0:01:39.321,0:01:41.211 im working on it 0:01:41.211,0:01:44.301 and so thank you 0:01:59.272,0:02:01.880 3 minutes i believe 0:02:01.880,0:02:02.701 2 0:02:06.892,0:02:09.602 well, in the meantime, i will read something 0:02:09.602,0:02:13.921 that i guess everyone [br]should had read before entering 0:02:13.921,0:02:17.841 which is, i will ramble freely[br]about debian 0:02:17.871,0:02:20.181 and everything else i care about 0:02:20.181,0:02:23.721 and you are going to have the misfortune 0:02:24.041,0:02:27.842 of figuring out what it is that [br]i also care about 0:02:29.632,0:02:32.522 i will cover topics including 0:02:33.002,0:02:35.791 but specially, not limited to, 0:02:36.022,0:02:39.041 anarchism, relationships, sex, violence 0:02:39.041,0:02:42.350 society, stereotypes and expectations 0:02:42.350,0:02:46.920 and i will always be talking about debian 0:02:47.441,0:02:49.212 really 0:02:49.212,0:02:51.780 i expect that this talks will be both 0:02:51.780,0:02:54.791 unsuitable and insightful for pretty much 0:02:55.211,0:02:58.621 any kind of audience that i can think of 0:02:58.691,0:03:03.341 and first 3 minutes of it are[br]about making sure 0:03:03.360,0:03:06.800 you understand what will be[br]the remaining 27 0:03:07.040,0:03:11.480 and have a chance to leave 0:03:20.601,0:03:23.421 after 3 minutes if you leave 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are kinda seen by everyone or something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but some shy people might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i dont know 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no, at any point in the talk 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if anybody want to safe word out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and ill explain what the safe word is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but if anybody want out and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 lalala i dont want to hear anymore 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 raise your hand, i will stop 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 black the screen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ?? my ?? file will show up in my clumsy attempt 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to black the screen, and waiting for you to leave 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the room before resuming, so 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 quotations that are famous anarchists have said 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 hundreds of years ago about debian 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 like this could be about mailing list discussions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for example 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i guess i can begin 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 chapter one: disclaimers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sorry, I was supposed to be introduced 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I was born... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is it on? okay 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it gives me great pleasure to introduce a man that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that pushed me into the maintainers process about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 seven years ago 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Enrico Zini 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, chapter one: disclaimers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i will let people know my better introducer 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Aida: anyhow if you are still a little dark 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in the end, just ask a young person or google 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i mean, dont take your computer for a ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i mean ?? afterwards 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Enrico: that songs talks about dogging 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is an interesting topic to kind of give 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 an idea about the rest of the thing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its good to give you an idea about the level 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the rest of the discussion 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so you know what is going to happen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 dogging redirect to public sex 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its one of the famous 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 anyone safewording outs? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you okay? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its a british thing apparently 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a british are famous for steam engines 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and dogging and a bunch of other things 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 hot and cold water, ?? but dogging in this case 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and dogging like debian has 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a code of conduct 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its good that we found a liquor tap 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which people who are doing things seriously 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there is more if you goggle 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but yeah, its always sex in public spaces 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its usually done with cars 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in cars, im not sure someone might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but i personally wouldnt recommend it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its not my thing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres a code that if you would like to be seen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 while you do it, you leave the light on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 inside the car 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you want to be followed into another's place 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you flash your lights 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i think there was a thing about raising the windows 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but im not sure about that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres a wonderful documental from BBC 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where you can find 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ask the british 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so this set 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Aida: theres a sense of dispossition 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 leave now 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 right, we can begin 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about the debian social contract 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and Emma Goldman said once that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Every daring attempt to make a great change 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in existing conditions, every lofty vision of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 new possibilities for the human race 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 has been labeled Utopian 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im going to talk about many topics 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that we all know have so much in common 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Anarchism, poliamory, BSDM and free software 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and after all, they are about people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 consensually, doing things together, right? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 people consensually doing things together 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so its different communities, with some overlaps 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they are different communities of people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 consensually doing things together and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there a lot to talk, theres a lot to learn 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from each other, because for a reason 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or another all this communities are focus on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 different aspects of aspects of consensually 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 doing things together 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 anarchism might focus more on the political side 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 BDSM might focus more on the consensual side 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and on the things that you do, free software 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and poliamory have a lot of focus on the political 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the doing things, the consensual and ?? everything else 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 chapter 2: BDSM 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Lysander Spooner talking about proprietary cloud 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 service providers said that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 A person is no less a slave because they are allowed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to choose a new master once in a term of years 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, BDSM 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we freesoftware people think that we are clever 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because we have recursive acronyms 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 BDSM stands for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Bondage disco is an interesting concept 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we could expanded later im sure it can go somewhere 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Bondage, Discipline, Dominance, Submission 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who was in the debian contributors this afternoon 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 has worked on code that submits debian developers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sorry, submit debian contributors to the site 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but its not the same thing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so its a chained acronym 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 BD, DS, SM (Bondage Discipline, Dominance Submission, Sado Masochism) 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so thats the first thing we have in common 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 clever acronyms 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so its about some of those things 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i think BDSM is really interesting not just because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of whips but also for having develop over the years 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a lot of awareness about power relationships 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its in the acronym, dominance-submission-discipline 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with that in mind i have a BDSM freesoftware definition 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i refuse to be bound by software 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i cannot negotiate with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and how i negotiate with software 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 well, if i have the source code i can come to terms 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with it and nogiating my interaction and if i dont 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the source code or i dont have the ability to change it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then im stuck, right? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so i think thats a pretty good definition of freesoftware 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im very proud of that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so thats another way to coceptualize freesoftware that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i think that can be understood really well by people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who may struggle with the four freedoms or the 10 points 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of the ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so thats one thing that could be carried across 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres another acronym that i would like to submit 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to your consideration which is this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Your Kink Is Not My Kink But Your Kink Is Okay (YKINMKBYKIOK) 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which i said but i should expand it for those that dont 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 find it obvious 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 kink is something people do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and something that some other people might not want to do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in the BSDM community is costumary to say 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 your kink is not my kink but your kink is okay 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the idea is to be non judgamental but at the same time 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to pull oneself out from somebody that one doesnt want to do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in my opinion, this is the final solution 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for the VI vs EMACS problem 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 im really eager to carry this into the freesoftware 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 community, it would solve a lot of things 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 other interesting things about BDSM is awareness about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 confort zones i know when im doing something im confortable with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i know my limits i know the limits i have i do not want to push 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i learned to communicate all this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 otherwise dissaster happens 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are safewords to prevent dissater to happen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 safeword means a word that means stop everything right now 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no matter what 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there is even level of safe words 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 common standard traffic lights green, yellow, red 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 green means yeah, bring it on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 yellow means this is getting intense, but do go on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 red means stop right now or i will call the police 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 once i manage to manage to wiggle free of this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 incidentally safe words are something we dont have in debian 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and i would be interested to have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are things that i see in mailing lists that i would like 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to safeword out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there is the clause the mail browser option yes 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it works pretty well, but then some people might take decisions 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then... well, its a concept i think should be explored 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres this nice gift that tell me that i can zoom, yes 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 "No means no", unless there has been a long discussion first, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and a safeword is in place, in which case "Fuzzy purple unicorn" means "no" 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thats the idea of safewords and "no means no" is an important 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 concept in most of the BSDM community 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres the some fringes in there but i think is unimportant 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres an interesting thing coming from the BDSM comunity 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is the awereness that really, when no means no 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is easier to say yes 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if im around a person that says, would you like to have tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and i say mmm nooo? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and i go like: but do have tea, tea is good 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and im like no 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and it goes: but its really good tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then i start feeling really unconfortable and chances are 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i dont want to drink anymore tea in my whole life 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is a shame, because i might like tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 incidentally, you can have consent explain with tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 video: if you are still struggling with consent 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 just imagine instead of iniciating sex, you are making them a cup of tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you said: hey, would you like a cup of tea? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they go: omg, fuck yes, i would fucking love a cup of tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thank you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then you know they want a cup of tea 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you say: hey would you like a cup of tea? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they are like: hmmm, you know, im not really sure 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but you could make him a cup of tea or not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you could make him a cup of tea... or not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but be aware they might not drink it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and if they dont drink it, then if they dont drink it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then, and this is the important part, dont make them drink it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 just because you made it, doenst mean you are entitled to watch them 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 drink it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and if they say: no thank you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then, dont make them tea. That is all 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 enrico: i highly recommend this video 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 consent is important, ill come back to it later 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres another thing that i really like about BDSM 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its a concept wich is aftercare 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the idea is that after you are having a person, bound... whatever 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you both have push your comfort[br]zones a little further than usual 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when the whole thing ends, there's a[br]moment of recovering 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 getting back inside the comfort zones of love,[br]of celebration 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is called aftercare, which is[br]something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that we dont do much in debian 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we do debian release parties. Aftercare for release 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we are out of the bindings of the free spirit 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then we get back into the comfort zone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of freedom and gcc transition and breaking[br]unstable 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but there could be moments of celebration 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 after each vote on something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there could be solidarity towards the people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that werent represented on the results[br]of the election 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or high fives after springs and[br]lots of efforts 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thats another thing that, in part we do, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but could do more, because more hacks[br]is nice 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 except if one does not like hacks 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at first, approach people at front[br]if you want to hug 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and signal that you want a hug, [br]before entering their personal space 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 do not hug people from the back,[br]that short of things 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 chapter previous + 1: poliamory 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Emma Goldman said: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If love does not know how to give and[br]take without restrictions, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it is not love, but a transaction[br]that never fails to lay stress 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on a plus and a minus 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 poliamory is according to wikipedia 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the practice, desire or acceptance[br]of intimate relationships 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that are not exclusive with respect to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 other sexual intimate relationships,[br]and, this is important, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with knowledge and consent from[br]everyone involved 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, a fling on the side dont ask, dont tell 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its generally not considered poliamory 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 unless, theres knowledge and consent about[br]the dont ask dont tell part of it 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is the concept 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the poliamory community has some[br]interesting things for us to learn 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 one was pointed out in Vaumarcus[br]a couple of years ago 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 nod if you want to be credited 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that wasnt a nod, i can take it as a ??[br]consense 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Rhonda pointed out something along[br]the line of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if somebody takes good care of one[br]of your packages 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you should be happy, rather than angry 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the poliamorous community uses the word[br]compersion a lot 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which is exactly the feeling you get when[br]somebody else also takes good care 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of one of your packages 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talking about that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we currently allow only one value[br]in the maintainer field in debian control 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which means that packages takes over[br]are traumatic experiences 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because the previous maintainer is dump[br]in favor of a new one 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and values can only be replaced 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if values could be added instead and[br]removed when they dont make sense anymore 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then the whole concept of somebody not[br]maintaining a packages ?? and so on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 could be solved by other people joining in[br]and relationships evolving, right?[br] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so thats a proposal for policy 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 another interesting thing that comes out of[br]the poliamorous greater cloud of people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is that different people have different[br]definitions of love 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 different needs, different definitions of love[br]even 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so it happened to me to have a conversation[br]with a person and say 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, how do you define love?[br]whats love for you? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 oh, great you asked me[br]that is fantastic because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its not an standard thing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you ask a random person what is love[br]often the result is... its love, right? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, the definition ive adopted recently[br]and im still very happy about is this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [I love you:][br][my world is better with you in it] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with and idea like that, you can see[br]how it is possible 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to love several people at once 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it does not mean that one has[br]specific expectations 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 towards the people one loves 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 otherwise, life becomes difficult and[br]theres only 24h in a day 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there are people that makes my world better[br]but they dont smell in a way that i like 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and stuff like that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [laughs] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and the distinction between romantic love[br]and sexual love could be made 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can see how the whole concept of relationship[br]gets deconstructed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and one can have sexual, romantic[br]sexual and romantic 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 no sexual, no romantic but plans for life 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 life gets really interesting 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and fortunately theres only 24h in a day[br]and i like ?? every night 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but we were talking about anarchism as well 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so i have done my ?? as well 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the readical idea than relationships can[br]be something that is negotiated 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 between the people involved 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thats so radical 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why isnt like that all the time? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to me is a big problem if a relationship[br]is something that is bound by rules 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that are not mutually agreed on[br]by the people involved, right? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but, some call it, relationship anarchy 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, going on, im 4 minutes behind 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Voltairine de Cleyre about[br]new debian contributors 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and trusting lintian warmings said: 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 anarchism, to me, means not only the denial[br]of authority, not only a new economy, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but a revision of the principles of morality 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It means the development of the individual[br]as well as the assertion of the individual 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It means self-responsible, and not leader[br]whorship 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so self-reponsability before blinding[br]trusting lintian warmings 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 back to consent, i thought a lot about consent[br]because, having a person mildly say yes 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 does not feel like right 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when things get complicated[br]you need to know what you are doing 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what situation you are putting yourself into 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which isnt often easy. Especially, if you[br]dont know the person 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you have in front of you. And if you dont[br]know the person you have in front of you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you might not know what situation[br]you are putting yourself into 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you deny consent until[br]you feel some trust 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you need to know that the person asking[br]a question really is able to acept 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 any answer and take it seriously 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is not necessarily true if you have[br]an application manager 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that asks a question to an applicant[br]some applicants go... [i dont know] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what do you think of the social contract[br]and the applicant goes like... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its perfect! i have no problem with it[br]but... can you trust that? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you need to feel that you have[br]alternatives, because if an applicant thinks 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if they say, i really do not understand why[br]in the DFSG we have an article about ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they might feel like if they say that[br]they will not become debian developers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because something 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so if one doesnt feel theres[br]an alternative 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if things go wrong, there is ways out[br]and so on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then consent is hard 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sometime ago, i came up with the idea of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be selfish when you ask, honest when[br]you reply, and when others reply 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 take them seriously, and if any of this[br]does not stand, i find it hard to trust 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that we are in a consensual situation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and unfortunately i see little education[br]for consent 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in standard education, there is not much[br]consent 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 dear child, this is[br]what you would like to do today 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is what is important for you today 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 otherwise, bad things happen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or in the workplace, there is often[br]little consensuality 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the whole thing begins with, i need[br]to buy part of your consent with money 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some people are lucky to get paid[br]for what they really want to do 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 some people not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we will be followed by the cheese and wine[br]BOF, so there will be alcohol 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 alcohol is not an excuse for breaking[br]consent 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and incidentally i heard reports of[br]borderline situations happening 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at debconf, if something makes you[br]uncomfortable, you can talk to people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at frontdesk 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if people in frontdesk makes you[br]uncomfortable, you can talk to me 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if both me and frontdesk makes you[br]uncomfortable, call the police 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 audience: [inaudible][br]good point 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thats a very good point 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can i have 5 more minutes? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 practical advice 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 suppose you want relationship advice[br]or work advice 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they are pretty much the same,[br]like this is a nice article about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how to deal with abusive relationship[br]or bad work places 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 keep them tired,[br]keep them too busy to think 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 keep them emotionally involved[br]reward intermittently 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 keep the crises rolling,[br]things will be better when... 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 we figured some time ago that if you go on[br]a situation thinking, it will be better 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it never will 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 keep real rewards distant, and so on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 more practical advice[br]i can give links later 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is an excellent article 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [what technical recruiters[br]can learn from online dating] 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i highly recommend it, because then[br]you can really see the recruiter email 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 very similar to some shady person[br]somewhere coming from behind 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and saying: do you come here often? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 more relationship advice from[br]99 ways to ruin an open source project 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 how to ruin the trust of the community 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 exert excessive control 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 never give anyone else commit access 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i dont know what that was,[br]require an unparseable unicode character 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ignore concerns voiced in issues 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 do any of this in a relationship and[br]it wont last long, right? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i highly also recommend this thing[br]making relationships suck 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 its a wonderful read, i can provide links[br]somehow later 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i dont know where to publish them[br]but we can work it out 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 theres also this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 BSDM advice, tips for new dominants 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so, tips for new packages maintainers 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you will fuck up 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and so on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 i guess is time to close, i hope[br]i gave an idea on how to carry across 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 advise thought quite a lot over the years[br]between one domain to another 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when theres an interesting point[br]that will overlap 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and id like to close recalling[br]my definition of love 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 dear debian and dear everyone contributing[br]to debian 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 my world is better with you in it[br]<3 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thank you, thank you, thank you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talkmaister: any questions?