You are the most gored bullfighter in history. Indeed, I have been subjected to more than 1200 horns, 45 flips and 200 stompings. And don't forget that I hold the Guinness book of records for the number of stitches in a human being- 22720 Lots of my gorings have been awarded by the Bullfighter's Union too. You, and pardon the joke, have had more gorings than Jesulin de Ubrique. Well, Jesulin de Ubrique has had alot more gorings by Belen Esteban. I don't want to seem morbid with this question, but you, because of a bad goring, don't have an eyelet. Well.. yes I do have one but it's plastic. And did the state give you compensation for that? Yeah, they gave me €30,000 You don't have testicles either because of bad gorings do you? Were you given compensation for that too? Yeah, they gave me €10,000 for each one. Well, you can't complain too much, you must be loaded. Yeah, I'm well off but I don't do it for the money. Bullfighting comes from within. I still remember that afternoon when Islero, a 500 kilo bull, stripped me completely of my left testicle. I picked it up from the ground and said to myself 'Bullfighter, don't stitch it up, show it to the spectators'. And I offered it to the audience. And they cried 'Hurrah bullfighter! Hurrah your balls!' Does you're wife forgive you for being a bullfighter? Well, really she's never seen me fight, because when I start a performance she shuts herself in a church and prays that nothing will happen to me. Well that must mean that either God doesn't exist or he's against bullfighting! Have you never thought of leaving tauromachy? You're not doing too well as a bullfighter, you've never killed a bull in your life. Well, I was once at the point of killing one, he'd had more than 200 stabbings. And I knew for certain that the next one was going to be the last. But at the last moment, he shoved me and I went flying I beat the record for the greatest height a bullfighter had been thrown to. That day, I was fighting in Las Ventas and I ended up fighting in the Misericordia Square. You're obsessed with killing a bull aren't you? Once you even drugged a bull before the fight. It was with heroin. And that day I said 'I'm going to go the whole way'