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  1. Is time to talk about the main topic of Express.
  2. At the National Library of Kosovo
  3. days ago, an exhibition talking about
  4. everyday life in North Korea was open.
  5. We had a reportage about that,
  6. and we gave information about
  7. the content of this exhibition.
  8. But, we will talk again about this cultural
  9. event since it opened a big debate.
  10. Mainly because most of them were negative
  11. We will discuss them now in this talk.
  12. Photos are spreading in facebook pretending
  13. that the Library has replaced photographs
  14. of our Renaissance authors with those
  15. of the North Korean Leader.
  16. If these negative comments are righteous
  17. or is a total misunderstanding
  18. of the concept of the exhibition
  19. will be discussed here today
  20. with our guest from the National Library
  21. Rudina Tahiraj.
  22. Welcome Rudina, welcome to Express
  23. Thank you for the invitation.
  24. Thank you too, for accepting our invitation
  25. to clarify this situation and the debate
  26. that probably you did not expect to happen.
  27. So Rudina let's talk again about
  28. what concerned the public
  29. about the last exhibition at the Library.
  30. What's about this exhibition?
  31. Thank you! Firstly because of
  32. the space you gave us to be here.
  33. Not because of our need to clarify anything
  34. because I think everything is already clear
  35. what the Library or the Author
  36. wanted to present in this exhibition.
  37. But most of all to add information
  38. where it's needed.
  39. For our public.
  40. So, the author is from Norway.
  41. and the exhibition is also supported by
  42. the Norwegian Embassy.
  43. The author himself was present at the opening
  44. He addressed the audience
  45. but probably he failed to explain
  46. the concept and idea behind the exhibition.
  47. I think that in general
  48. at the opening ceremonies
  49. explaining the concept is not the goal.
  50. I believe we live in a time
  51. when the concepts are given before.
  52. The Library and Traavik.Info already did it.
  53. The opening ceremony is a kind of party
  54. in our case, the artist Morten Traavik
  55. was there, the director of the Library
  56. Mr. Fazli Gajraku and also
  57. the Norwegian Ambassador.
  58. Said that the public had all the chances
  59. to see the full photographic installation
  60. and also a documentary film
  61. by Morten Traavik, done in the time
  62. he was in North Korea.
  63. What I want to stress is that
  64. Mr. Morten Traavik has a long and varied
  65. experience in North Korea.
  66. And he really knows their everyday life.
  67. Morten Traavik came in Kosovo
  68. to present who he perceives
  69. the everyday life in North Korea.
  70. In what he acknowledges as a dictatorship
  71. and isolation of a country
  72. in these modern times.
  73. As we talk you can see some footage
  74. from the exhibition
  75. there are people visiting it.
  76. With what you could see,
  77. was the public interested to see the exhibition
  78. even by curiosity after the comments
  79. and the debate started on Facebook?
  80. I want to say that unfortunately
  81. this was an exhibition which did not
  82. attract attention on an opening day,
  83. even thought it was well promoted.
  84. The media was not interested in it.
  85. They become interested in it,
  86. if I can call it like that,
  87. after individuals or different groups
  88. thought it was reasonable to talk
  89. about the exhibition or criticizing it.
  90. I think that to criticize an exhibition
  91. first, you have to be informed.
  92. All the background of the exhibition
  93. was available on different platforms.
  94. The concept of the author and also
  95. the content of the exhibition,
  96. all the information was there I think.
  97. And to create an idea or
  98. criticize another you have to visit the LIbrary.
  99. Exactly. Before we talk more about the concept
  100. of the exhibition, as you mentioned,
  101. to add more information about it.
  102. Now we will see an interview with
  103. the author of the exhibition done
  104. during the opening ceremony.
  105. I'm following up on the discussion
  106. where you left it, before the author's interview.
  107. Most of the people had spoken before
  108. actually seeing which were the photos
  109. exposed. They're focused on
  110. the image of the dictator, Kim.
  111. And probably just mentioning his name
  112. produces debate without having
  113. much information.
  114. Could you Rudina explain to us
  115. very shortly, since you represent the Library
  116. why was interesting for you to include
  117. in your repertoire this exhibition.
  118. And also about the subject, it presents,
  119. why do you think it was important to share
  120. with the public?
  121. Morten Traavik this July submited
  122. a request to the Library
  123. to bring the exhibition Guardians of Paradise
  124. in Pristina.
  125. Apparently the National Library impressed
  126. him for its architecture
  127. and as a cult object and important object
  128. for the preservation of the cultural
  129. heritage and arts.
  130. In his request was clear all the background
  131. of the exhibition.
  132. Meaning that the exhibition
  133. Guardians of Paradise was premiered
  134. in Gjirokastra, at Kadare's House.
  135. So, an exhibition depicting everyday life
  136. in a totalitarian country like North Korea,
  137. was shown in, as the author says,
  138. in the land where the dictator of Albania was born
  139. and at the same time Ismail Kadare.
  140. And because of him, Ismail Kadare,
  141. being an important figure for our culture,
  142. he decides to confront in this context
  143. a dictator like Kim of North Korea.
  144. The same happens in the National Library.
  145. According to his concept,
  146. he wants to confront these opposed figures.
  147. We are talking about the Albanian
  148. Renaissance authors, who prepared the
  149. the cultural path for Kosovo,
  150. confronted with Kim.
  151. Father and son of North Korea.
  152. Obviously it depends on the public
  153. how to view it, even literaly
  154. this confrontation we did with Naim Frasheri
  155. or other Rennainssance authors with Kim.
  156. It is up to the public to see it as
  157. conjunction of figures
  158. or as space where opposed figures
  159. are confronted.
  160. And obviously this can arouse something
  161. to the population.
  162. I feel sorry it aroused only criticism
  163. but there is much more behind the figures
  164. and art than just the faces of people
  165. they represent.
  166. It is not uncommon that artists use
  167. their work to provoke debate, maybe this
  168. was also the case of the Norwegian artist.
  169. From the beginning
  170. it was explained that the purpose
  171. of this exhibition was not to promote
  172. dictatorship but to show maybe
  173. the opposite of what we are living,
  174. to show the life in what we call dictatorship.
  175. Did you think about the reactions
  176. before opening the exhibition?
  177. Did you predict it somehow this reaction?
  178. I think is in the core of every art work,
  179. of every photographic installation,
  180. of every exhibition to tease the thinking
  181. but absolutely not to provoke the population.
  182. The Library never attempted to provoke
  183. or hurt its public.
  184. Indeed we hoped for reactions
  185. but for this kind of reactions,
  186. we couldn't imagine.
  187. What I want to emphasize again
  188. is that the public
  189. did not take sufficient information
  190. about the content of the exhibition.
  191. There is a quote by Milan Kundera in the
  192. beginning of the exhibition which
  193. eliminates 100% any allegation of the
  194. the exhibition being a promotion
  195. of dictatorship.
  196. And then you have the photographs
  197. expressing strongly
  198. the everyday life of the North Koreans
  199. through dictatorship and the system
  200. in which they live.
  201. In a way, the author wanted to share
  202. his experience and what he saw in
  203. a country that is not that easy to visit.
  204. Someone from the Library staff told
  205. to our correspondent that the students
  206. who are the people that most frenquently
  207. use the Library were not happy about
  208. this exhibition.
  209. Did they have the chance to approach you
  210. and get more information before reacting?
  211. Or is the case of disinterest
  212. toward the content.
  213. As I said before, the information
  214. was available everywhere.
  215. Days before the opening we gave flyers,
  216. also, the installation was implemented
  217. days before meaning that was enough space
  218. to get informed.
  219. If the students did not like what they saw,
  220. I can say that the exhibition
  221. was not set to be liked or disliked
  222. by anyone.
  223. I was set to provoke thinking.
  224. An exactly on the principle of allowing
  225. an artist to establish a communication
  226. with our public, we collaborated with
  227. author for this exhibition.
  228. The debates are always well received,
  229. but we think that always when you discuss
  230. about something,
  231. you should have the proper information.
  232. I really hope that after this interview
  233. all of those who somehow felt hurt
  234. by this exhibition could get through
  235. some more information.
  236. And if then they'll still have the same
  237. opinion is on everybody's right to think
  238. Did you as Library, ever thought or
  239. at least were you influenced by
  240. the comments and critics mainly in the
  241. social media,
  242. to take down the exhibition before
  243. the announced date?
  244. In fact, I don't think we can
  245. call it proper criticism,
  246. what has been done until now.
  247. It is more a confrontation of ideas...
  248. the Library want's to clarify the reason
  249. why we chose to make this collaboration
  250. We are there
  251. In fact, how can we stand behind a
  252. criticism of promoting dictatorship
  253. when we are not doing that?
  254. I don't know if taking down the exhibition
  255. would be reasonable.
  256. Let's talk a bit about that
  257. because of many requests coming
  258. at our newsroom to visit again
  259. the exhibition since we talked about that
  260. from the beginning.
  261. Because they don't understand how
  262. we reacted and accepted this exhibition
  263. and the work of this author.
  264. But for the ones that want, is there
  265. any option contact the Library
  266. even via web pages or something else?
  267. Yes, we are absolutely transparent
  268. with everybody.
  269. We, the Library, did not receive any
  270. direct criticism.
  271. Directly to us.
  272. We accepted questions from the media,
  273. and we responded to different questions
  274. But we saw a tendency from the media
  275. to reconfirm the criticism that they found
  276. from the public.
  277. I'm saying public but actually I don't know
  278. if they are the public or just some individuals
  279. who took a lot of attention.
  280. And actually our answers
  281. were not transmitted correctly.
  282. It was a tendency to not receive
  283. information about the exhibition or the artist.
  284. Except one media who talked directly to
  285. Mr. Morten Traavik.
  286. No one else wanted to communicate with him.
  287. It means that the author knows about the debate.
  288. Yes, and he is open to comments
  289. and sincere discussions
  290. about the exhibition.
  291. Is he surprised about the reactions
  292. in Kosovo?
  293. Because I believe he has shown
  294. this exhibition in other places
  295. and I don't know how was the reaction
  296. in other places?
  297. Mr. Traavik is very surprised
  298. and disappointed
  299. Not disappointed from the people
  300. of Kosovo but from the expectations
  301. about bringing his work.
  302. He knows all had happened after the opening
  303. and he is open for everybody,
  304. for people or media
  305. who wants more information.
  306. But also with a little google research
  307. you can get links and informations
  308. about Mr. Morten Traavik and his art.
  309. I hope for those who want to know
  310. more can go online
  311. and find more answers.
  312. We are at the end of our time
  313. shortly if you want to say something
  314. to our public especially to those
  315. who now wants to really visit
  316. the exhibition to find out if
  317. they unintentionally prejudged
  318. the exhibition or not.
  319. How long will the exhibition last?
  320. These are the last days of the exhibition
  321. meaning in the 11th will be the last day.
  322. So there are only 3 days.
  323. Except for Sunday that we are closed.
  324. We invite everybody to visit the exhibition
  325. to change their mind or just to get informed
  326. Or simply to tease their critic mind.
  327. We welcome everybody.
  328. Rudina thanks you for being here
  329. we'll welcome you for other talks
  330. hoping to have good debates too.
  331. Thank you very much
  332. Thank you very much