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Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.04,0:00:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is time to talk about the main topic of Express.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.74,0:00:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the National Library of Kosovo
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.65,0:00:16.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,days ago, an exhibition talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.99,0:00:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyday life in North Korea was open.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.63,0:00:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a reportage about that,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.87,0:00:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we gave information about
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.80,0:00:26.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the content of this exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.69,0:00:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, we will talk again about this cultural
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.16,0:00:32.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,event since it opened a big debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.79,0:00:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mainly because most of them were negative
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.94,0:00:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will discuss them now in this talk.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.87,0:00:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Photos are spreading in facebook pretending
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.92,0:00:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the Library has replaced photographs
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.63,0:00:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our Renaissance authors with those
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.03,0:00:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the North Korean Leader.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.33,0:00:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If these negative comments are righteous
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.28,0:00:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is a total misunderstanding
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.20,0:01:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the concept of the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.42,0:01:03.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be discussed here today
Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.75,0:01:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our guest from the National Library
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.27,0:01:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rudina Tahiraj.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.90,0:01:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome Rudina, welcome to Express
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.60,0:01:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for the invitation.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.69,0:01:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you too, for accepting our invitation
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.54,0:01:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to clarify this situation and the debate
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.67,0:01:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that probably you did not expect to happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.64,0:01:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Rudina let's talk again about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.87,0:01:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what concerned the public
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.52,0:01:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the last exhibition at the Library.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.27,0:01:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's about this exhibition?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.80,0:01:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you! Firstly because of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.72,0:01:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the space you gave us to be here.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.65,0:01:43.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because of our need to clarify anything
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.65,0:01:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think everything is already clear
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.65,0:01:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the Library or the Author
Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.22,0:01:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to present in this exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.78,0:01:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But most of all to add information
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.93,0:01:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it's needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.72,0:02:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For our public.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.15,0:02:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the author is from Norway.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.15,0:02:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the exhibition is also supported by
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.55,0:02:10.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Norwegian Embassy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.82,0:02:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The author himself was present at the opening
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.73,0:02:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He addressed the audience
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.29,0:02:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but probably he failed to explain
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.77,0:02:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the concept and idea behind the exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.51,0:02:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that in general
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.59,0:02:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the opening ceremonies
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.83,0:02:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explaining the concept is not the goal.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.85,0:02:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe we live in a time
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.28,0:02:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the concepts are given before.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.46,0:02:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Library and Traavik.Info already did it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.85,0:02:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opening ceremony is a kind of party
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.47,0:02:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our case, the artist Morten Traavik
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.68,0:02:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was there, the director of the Library
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.52,0:03:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Fazli Gajraku and also
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.35,0:03:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Norwegian Ambassador.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.98,0:03:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Said that the public had all the chances
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.98,0:03:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the full photographic installation
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.88,0:03:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also a documentary film
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.74,0:03:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Morten Traavik, done in the time
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.94,0:03:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was in North Korea.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.84,0:03:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to stress is that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.07,0:03:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Morten Traavik has a long and varied
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.09,0:03:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience in North Korea.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.39,0:03:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he really knows their everyday life.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.98,0:03:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Morten Traavik came in Kosovo
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.96,0:03:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to present who he perceives
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.53,0:03:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the everyday life in North Korea.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.82,0:03:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In what he acknowledges as a dictatorship
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.09,0:03:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and isolation of a country
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.48,0:03:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in these modern times.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.83,0:03:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we talk you can see some footage
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.29,0:03:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.26,0:04:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are people visiting it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.32,0:04:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With what you could see,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.60,0:04:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the public interested to see the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.60,0:04:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even by curiosity after the comments
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.61,0:04:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the debate started on Facebook?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.14,0:04:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to say that unfortunately
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.63,0:04:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was an exhibition which did not
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.38,0:04:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attract attention on an opening day,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.13,0:04:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even thought it was well promoted.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.67,0:04:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The media was not interested in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.14,0:04:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They become interested in it,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.82,0:04:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I can call it like that,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.88,0:04:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after individuals or different groups
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.81,0:04:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought it was reasonable to talk
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.43,0:04:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the exhibition or criticizing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.73,0:04:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that to criticize an exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.90,0:05:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first, you have to be informed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.20,0:05:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the background of the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.95,0:05:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was available on different platforms.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.36,0:05:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The concept of the author and also
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.58,0:05:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the content of the exhibition,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.11,0:05:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the information was there I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.30,0:05:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to create an idea or
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.23,0:05:33.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criticize another you have to visit the LIbrary.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.89,0:05:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly. Before we talk more about the concept
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.53,0:05:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the exhibition, as you mentioned,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.16,0:05:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to add more information about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.44,0:05:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we will see an interview with
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.40,0:05:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the author of the exhibition done
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.98,0:05:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the opening ceremony.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.70,0:06:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm following up on the discussion
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.26,0:06:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you left it, before the author's interview.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.12,0:06:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the people had spoken before
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.34,0:06:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually seeing which were the photos
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.62,0:06:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exposed. They're focused on
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.66,0:06:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the image of the dictator, Kim.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.60,0:06:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And probably just mentioning his name
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.14,0:06:49.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,produces debate without having
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.94,0:06:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much information.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.96,0:06:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could you Rudina explain to us
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.74,0:06:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very shortly, since you represent the Library
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.61,0:07:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why was interesting for you to include
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.08,0:07:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your repertoire this exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.50,0:07:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also about the subject, it presents,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.70,0:07:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do you think it was important to share
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.82,0:07:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the public?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.24,0:07:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Morten Traavik this July submited
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.16,0:07:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a request to the Library
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.18,0:07:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to bring the exhibition Guardians of Paradise
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.67,0:07:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Pristina.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.69,0:07:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apparently the National Library impressed
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.51,0:07:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him for its architecture
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.29,0:07:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a cult object and important object
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.53,0:07:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the preservation of the cultural
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.42,0:07:43.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heritage and arts.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.53,0:07:48.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In his request was clear all the background
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.69,0:07:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.25,0:07:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meaning that the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.14,0:07:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guardians of Paradise was premiered
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.11,0:08:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Gjirokastra, at Kadare's House.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.94,0:08:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, an exhibition depicting everyday life
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.99,0:08:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a totalitarian country like North Korea,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.69,0:08:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was shown in, as the author says,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.98,0:08:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the land where the dictator of Albania was born
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.83,0:08:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the same time Ismail Kadare.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.99,0:08:29.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because of him, Ismail Kadare,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.27,0:08:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being an important figure for our culture,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.15,0:08:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he decides to confront in this context
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.15,0:08:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a dictator like Kim of North Korea.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.21,0:08:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same happens in the National Library.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.22,0:08:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to his concept,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.64,0:08:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wants to confront these opposed figures.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.21,0:08:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are talking about the Albanian
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.51,0:09:00.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Renaissance authors, who prepared the
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.25,0:09:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cultural path for Kosovo,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.93,0:09:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronted with Kim.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.39,0:09:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Father and son of North Korea.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.82,0:09:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously it depends on the public
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.82,0:09:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to view it, even literaly
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.50,0:09:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this confrontation we did with Naim Frasheri
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.36,0:09:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or other Rennainssance authors with Kim.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.54,0:09:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is up to the public to see it as
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.74,0:09:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conjunction of figures
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.82,0:09:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or as space where opposed figures
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.82,0:09:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are confronted.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.98,0:09:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And obviously this can arouse something
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.60,0:09:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the population.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.84,0:09:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel sorry it aroused only criticism
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.92,0:09:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there is much more behind the figures
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.06,0:09:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and art than just the faces of people
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.52,0:09:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they represent.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.52,0:10:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not uncommon that artists use
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.52,0:10:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their work to provoke debate, maybe this
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.52,0:10:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was also the case of the Norwegian artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.89,0:10:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the beginning
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.74,0:10:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was explained that the purpose
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.16,0:10:25.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this exhibition was not to promote
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.25,0:10:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dictatorship but to show maybe
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.65,0:10:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the opposite of what we are living,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.29,0:10:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to show the life in what we call dictatorship.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.41,0:10:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you think about the reactions
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.41,0:10:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before opening the exhibition?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.06,0:10:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you predict it somehow this reaction?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.88,0:10:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think is in the core of every art work,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.42,0:10:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of every photographic installation,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.12,0:10:57.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of every exhibition to tease the thinking
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.65,0:11:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but absolutely not to provoke the population.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.92,0:11:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Library never attempted to provoke
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.44,0:11:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or hurt its public.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.92,0:11:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indeed we hoped for reactions
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.92,0:11:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for this kind of reactions,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.21,0:11:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we couldn't imagine.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.92,0:11:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I want to emphasize again
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.83,0:11:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the public
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.26,0:11:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did not take sufficient information
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.85,0:11:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the content of the exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.43,0:11:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a quote by Milan Kundera in the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.79,0:11:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beginning of the exhibition which
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.35,0:11:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eliminates 100% any allegation of the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.66,0:11:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exhibition being a promotion
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.65,0:11:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dictatorship.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you have the photographs
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.17,0:11:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expressing strongly
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.24,0:11:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the everyday life of the North Koreans
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.24,0:11:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through dictatorship and the system
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.47,0:11:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which they live.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.66,0:11:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, the author wanted to share
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.66,0:11:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his experience and what he saw in
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.78,0:12:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a country that is not that easy to visit.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.67,0:12:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone from the Library staff told
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.66,0:12:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our correspondent that the students
Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.66,0:12:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are the people that most frenquently
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.90,0:12:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use the Library were not happy about
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.27,0:12:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.54,0:12:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did they have the chance to approach you
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.54,0:12:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get more information before reacting?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.54,0:12:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or is the case of disinterest
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.48,0:12:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,toward the content.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.18,0:12:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I said before, the information
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.54,0:12:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was available everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.76,0:12:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Days before the opening we gave flyers,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.06,0:12:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also, the installation was implemented
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.05,0:12:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,days before meaning that was enough space
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.22,0:12:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get informed.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.71,0:12:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the students did not like what they saw,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.79,0:13:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can say that the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.04,0:13:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not set to be liked or disliked
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.95,0:13:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.95,0:13:09.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was set to provoke thinking.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.98,0:13:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An exactly on the principle of allowing
Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.97,0:13:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an artist to establish a communication
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.82,0:13:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our public, we collaborated with
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.90,0:13:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,author for this exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.78,0:13:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The debates are always well received,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.13,0:13:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we think that always when you discuss
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.82,0:13:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about something,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.38,0:13:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should have the proper information.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.78,0:13:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really hope that after this interview
Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.72,0:13:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of those who somehow felt hurt
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.28,0:13:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by this exhibition could get through
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.74,0:13:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some more information.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.96,0:13:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if then they'll still have the same
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.86,0:13:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opinion is on everybody's right to think
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.74,0:13:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you as Library, ever thought or
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.41,0:13:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least were you influenced by
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.60,0:13:58.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the comments and critics mainly in the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.20,0:14:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.41,0:14:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take down the exhibition before
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.64,0:14:04.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the announced date?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.05,0:14:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, I don't think we can
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.39,0:14:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call it proper criticism,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.70,0:14:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what has been done until now.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.90,0:14:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is more a confrontation of ideas...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.90,0:14:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Library want's to clarify the reason
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.90,0:14:24.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why we chose to make this collaboration
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.90,0:14:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are there
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.76,0:14:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, how can we stand behind a
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.90,0:14:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criticism of promoting dictatorship
Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.90,0:14:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we are not doing that?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.71,0:14:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if taking down the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.17,0:14:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be reasonable.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.96,0:14:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's talk a bit about that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.94,0:14:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of many requests coming
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.30,0:14:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at our newsroom to visit again
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.38,0:14:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exhibition since we talked about that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.16,0:14:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the beginning.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.37,0:14:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they don't understand how
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.16,0:15:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we reacted and accepted this exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.45,0:15:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the work of this author.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.58,0:15:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for the ones that want, is there
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.25,0:15:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any option contact the Library
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.26,0:15:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even via web pages or something else?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.83,0:15:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, we are absolutely transparent
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.83,0:15:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.25,0:15:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We, the Library, did not receive any
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.65,0:15:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,direct criticism.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.44,0:15:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Directly to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.14,0:15:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We accepted questions from the media,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.34,0:15:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we responded to different questions
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.34,0:15:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we saw a tendency from the media
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.34,0:15:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reconfirm the criticism that they found
Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.62,0:15:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the public.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.68,0:15:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm saying public but actually I don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.84,0:15:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they are the public or just some individuals
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.68,0:15:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who took a lot of attention.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.62,0:15:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually our answers
Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.50,0:16:02.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were not transmitted correctly.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.61,0:16:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a tendency to not receive
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.95,0:16:10.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information about the exhibition or the artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.36,0:16:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except one media who talked directly to
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.64,0:16:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Morten Traavik.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.55,0:16:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one else wanted to communicate with him.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.15,0:16:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that the author knows about the debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.59,0:16:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, and he is open to comments
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.60,0:16:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sincere discussions
Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.06,0:16:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the exhibition.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.68,0:16:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is he surprised about the reactions
Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.73,0:16:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Kosovo?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.87,0:16:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I believe he has shown
Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.90,0:16:42.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this exhibition in other places
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.29,0:16:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't know how was the reaction
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.99,0:16:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other places?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.06,0:16:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Traavik is very surprised
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.42,0:16:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and disappointed
Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.61,0:16:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not disappointed from the people
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.33,0:16:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Kosovo but from the expectations
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.58,0:16:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about bringing his work.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:00.38,0:17:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knows all had happened after the opening
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.80,0:17:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he is open for everybody,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.94,0:17:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people or media
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.02,0:17:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who wants more information.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.30,0:17:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But also with a little google research
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.91,0:17:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can get links and informations
Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.30,0:17:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Mr. Morten Traavik and his art.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.78,0:17:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope for those who want to know
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.49,0:17:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more can go online
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.75,0:17:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and find more answers.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.57,0:17:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are at the end of our time
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.35,0:17:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shortly if you want to say something
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.59,0:17:41.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to our public especially to those
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.49,0:17:43.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who now wants to really visit
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.42,0:17:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exhibition to find out if
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.27,0:17:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they unintentionally prejudged
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.25,0:17:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the exhibition or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.33,0:17:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How long will the exhibition last?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.64,0:17:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the last days of the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.86,0:17:56.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning in the 11th will be the last day.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.30,0:17:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there are only 3 days.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.36,0:18:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Except for Sunday that we are closed.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.94,0:18:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We invite everybody to visit the exhibition
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.02,0:18:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change their mind or just to get informed
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.94,0:18:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or simply to tease their critic mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.92,0:18:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We welcome everybody.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.08,0:18:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rudina thanks you for being here
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.60,0:18:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'll welcome you for other talks
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.45,0:18:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hoping to have good debates too.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.67,0:18:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.77,0:18:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much