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Hi,Tony
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Tell me about Casa Tres Patios.
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How was it born?
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The idea that you had, to found it.
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- Casa Tres Patios started in 2006 and
it was originally conceived as a space
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just to do experiments where local artists
and art students could do experiments in
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different spaces in Casa.
Simply to explore areas that they haven't
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had the chance to explore before.
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In 2006 we did six periods
of experimentation
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six exhibitions and then the grant ended.
It was here on a great Fulbright grant,
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And I moved back to the United States.
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The idea was really just to open the space
up for local artists
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But in 2007 I was approached
by Museo D Antioquia
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and they said if I wanted to come back
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then I could start doing a residency program
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to invite international artists to come
to the ---- as well
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because they were planning a big event.
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With that impulse, we started our
residency program
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and just started
...the whole ball started rolling!
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So we started doing resedencies,
lectures, classes, exhibitions,
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different activities around art.
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And as a result of those activities
and our continuing desire
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to try make an impact in the
local art community
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we observed that when we did lectures
and when we did workshops,
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it was more effective and we had a bigger
impact directly into the local community
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so we started investigating more of the
educational side of art and
its potential impacts.
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And as a result of that we begun
to work with local secretary of culture
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to develop a series of workshops
for children and young people
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to use art in a questioning, which comes
along with contemporary art as a platform
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for generating reflections, either
personal reflections or social reflections
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in these children and young people.
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We still do exhibitions.
We still have artists in residency.
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But today we are looking more at art as a
platform for generating pedagogical practices
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and that's generally
our direction in 2014.
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-Mhmm. Will me, as a former developer find
interest in that you host a group of hackers?
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Can you tell me a bit about them?
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- Yeah, the group of hackers is called
Un/Loquer.
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They're a group that's now been around for
about 6 or 7 years, if I'm not mistaken,
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perhaps longer.
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And basically, we adopted them to a
certain extent; we adopted each other.
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They were housed in the
Museum of Modern Art
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prior to being in Casa Tres Patios.
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And when they found themself without a
home, at one point when the museum
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changed locations, we invited them to
inhabit our garage space.
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And so, we didn't know if it was going to
be a temporary arrangement or a long-term
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arrangement but that was four years ago.
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And we've now developed a symbiotic
relationship with them.
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They work on technological issues,
they would do workshops with us,
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but they also help us with our computer
systems and things like that.
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We're now trying to work with them
on the administrative side
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So they share their knowledge with us
in their open source sort of way,
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which we think is a really healthy way.
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And we're trying to actually incorporate
that in our pedagogical practices,
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as in we help them with the administrative
aspects and we help them with the legal
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structure that they need to have to
perform services and contracts
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with the local community and
the local municipality.
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So we've developed this really nice mutual
collaborative relationship and
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- Mhmm
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- And we feel very fortunate because
they're very open with their process.
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And the fact that they've shared with us
their informal education process
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has really had a grand impact on the way
that we perceive the pedagogical practice
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because most of us come from traditional
pedagogies.
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And this open source is very utopian, but
very appropriate for the time we live in.
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- Mhmm
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- And so we feel very fortunate that we
have developed a symbiotic relationship
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with them.
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- And apart from that, what commonplace
do you see between art and hacking?
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- I think
- Or I mean the developers at all ICTs????
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-Yeah, I think that...these days I don't
like to make those differentiations.
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I mean, I think that it's almost
all the same now.
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- Mhmm
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- I think that the idea of any kind of a
development or any kind of questioning,
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...now the idea that art involves some
sort of an investigation or some sort of
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a research prior to creating a piece or
there's many practices that involve those
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kinds of...deep knowledge of some kind of
subject with the idea of creating a piece
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of art that subverts that in a certain way
or twists it in a certain way
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is a very similar practice to what I
understand hackers do.
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They know a system so well they understand
how they can tweak it or how they can
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turn it around, or reuse it
in a certain way.
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So I don't really know that...
I'm beginning to think that there's not
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really a difference, I mean you know we've
got these different labels but I'm not
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sure that it's really very much different;
I think that it just has a different...
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Instead of using sculptural materials or
paint or photographs it's using technology
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...but hacking how has this more global
sense about it than it had maybe
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ten or fifteen years ago.
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And so I sort of think of art as being
hacking; I don't think of them as being
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really that different.
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- Okay. Thank you.
- Mhmm