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My name is Kiran, I am the chair of In Our
Own Words
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and a health psychologist by background.
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And I am Rachel and I have recently come
on board with In Our Own words and I am
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newly qualified as a clinical psychologist
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It’s nice to meet you all by the way.
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So just to explain what In Our Own Words
is.
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It is a wiki essentially, to
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build up a knowledge resource around
distress, suffering, pain fatigue, those
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kind of symptoms or experiences people
might struggle with from ethnic minorities
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as they may describe them in everyday
terms.
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So moving away from clinical disorders
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and moving away from looking at the
Western equivalents of anxiety and
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depression, but really looking at how
people describe it in an everyday sense
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in order to try and help people to get
earlier access to support
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when they need it from psychological
services.
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And as part of that we are building a
resource section
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for different communities under different
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languages where we link to papers- sorry,
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not papers-research done by different
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researchers, you know, trainee
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psychologists, early career psychologists,
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with ethnic minorities around
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some of their sense-making when they have
mental and physical health difficulties,
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particularly work that might not have been
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published before.
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[Rachel] This is often called a preprint
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[Kiran] That's it, yeah
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[Rachel] When I was possibly thinking
about publishing my thesis
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so yeah it's basically a term in academic
publishing which is like a version of
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your scientific paper that precedes a
formal peer review and actually
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it doesn't have to, a formal peer review
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doesn't have to follow on. And you can
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just complete a dissertation
or a piece of work, or a even a service
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evaluation for example, and you can-
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there's a number of places you can upload
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them. Yeah and you, and you make
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the pre-print available, how it's
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described [the process]. People can view
hat, it's searchable, people can download
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it. And yeah, others go on to publish it.
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Yep. And One of the nice things about it
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is you can actually see how many people
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download your paper and you can create
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citable links of your research paper from
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there. Erm so we'll talk a bit about who
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might actually benefit from this, and talk
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about some of the caveats, like who
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might not be so-who might want to think
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about it before they share their pre-
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prints with us. And so, this is possibly
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going to appeal more to people who train
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and go in to practicing, erm psychology in
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applied settings, clinical settings so for
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example, erm clinical psychologists,
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counselling psychologists and perhaps some
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practitioner health psychologists, you
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know, amongst some others. The
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reason why we say that is that there's
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less pressure to publish in academic
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outlets when you are oriented towards
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those services because-and that-that is an
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advantage because, some journals-a number
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of journals don't really accept pre-prints
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or you know reviewers may comment that
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this-that this has been a pre print else-
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where and that can actually impede chances
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of success at those journals. On the
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other hand some open access journals that
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tend to be, you know, higher impact or
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you know, harder to get in to as well,
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they don’t mind having-accepting
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pre-prints, in fact they may
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encourage it. Erm so that-We would ask you
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to consider that, you know before
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uploading your work on a pre print
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server because we don’t want to stop you
from doing that
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if that's-if publishing academically, if
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that's what you want to do first. That
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said, you know, we know it can be
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difficult and a lot of really good work
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never gets out there in academic journals
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and we want to help people-make that
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accessible, and you know get the exposure
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and the credit they deserve for doing that
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work. And we know that those working with
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ethnic minorities can sometimes find it
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really difficult to get their work
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published in an academic outlet but
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we really need to hear about that stuff
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[their research].
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[inaudible]
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With regards to how it works on our Wiki,
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as I say we have a resources section under
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each language and the idea is people can
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click through and visit and download it
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and have a look. The first thing they
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see is, like you know a page of terms and
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recordings of phrases but
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sometimes people might actually want to
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understand a particular community more
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and understand how they make sense of
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you know, struggle, physical and
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emotional struggle, and their-you know
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when their health needs aren’t being
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quite met, so they can either get
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more support, you know or they can-or if
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they are a professional, figure out how
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to support a member of the community
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better. Obviously we do welcome work
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from any psychologist that has worked with
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an ethnic minority but we are particularly
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welcoming ethnic minority psychologists,
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as that is part of our ethos, it's our
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focus to try and help get ethnic minority
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psychologists to get their work recognised
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to counteract some of the barriers that
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we can sometimes face as ethnic minorities
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[Kiran] So yeah with regards-
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[Rachel] Can I give an example?
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[Kiran] Oh go on-
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[Rachel] An example might be-you
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might be a-a practicing health
psychologist
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Perhaps you are a few years down the line
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after study, but actually like you had
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a really incredible dissertation or thesis
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that was on, for example the experiences
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of barriers to help in the South
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Asian community in relation to eating
disorders
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That-and say it was a qualitative piece
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and you interviewed like 8 people
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and it's-you might not have had
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the support, the time, the energy to-
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perhaps or the interest to go down
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that peer review process, cos it is - as
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Kiran said there are any barriers for
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lots of different reasons, perhaps then
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a preprint could be really useful cos that
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would mean that information-that knowledge
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can be picked up and used by
practitioners, just by the public, by
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people of the South Asian community
specifically and that is exactly the
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sort of thing we would absolutely love in
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the resources section and we can
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actually put that in-under the certain
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languages that that would be-that that
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would be relevant to, so yeah that's just
an example.
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[Kiran] Yeah thank you, that's always
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helpful for people to have that, you know,
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cos it can seem a bit abstract.
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So when we say we link to it, a popular
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repository that we talk about--that
accepts a lot of preprints is called
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PsyArXiv. We'll go over how to upload
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things onto PsyArXiv and one of the
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lovely things about that is that you can
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create a permanent link which is easy to
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publish to-well link to, also should you
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then later on publish it, you can create a
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link to the final published version-and
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you can even choose whether to make it
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private or public, update the version
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if you choose to re-write it a little bit.
You have all these options
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And one of these things that we hope
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that could happen is if we-this site
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builds and you know becomes a real key
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-leading resource amongst professionals
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and service user groups, we could end up
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attracting some editors who would love to
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publish your work, who may approach you
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as a result. So, that's-kind of the other
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hope really by doing it this way, and of
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course to make sure we credit people
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appropriately for the work that they do.
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So what we do particularly welcome
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is-in terms of the types of research
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we-we are looking for original empirical
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research studies, qualitative, indepth
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studies with an ethnic minority
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participant group and sometimes
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quantitative measures, to see where
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someone might be struggling with their
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physical or mental health as that can help
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[to] identify people in clinical practice
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who might need some support, so those are
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the kind of the studies that we're
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looking for. So if that you know sounds
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like it might be of relevance to you-I'm
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just gonna check that I haven't missed
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anything [laughs]- if that sounds like
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it could be something you would
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be interested in, and you know
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you'd like to hear more and see more of
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our projects then, you know you're more
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than welcome and we'd love to hear
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from you.
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Thank you-thank you very much for your
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attention and we look forward to speaking
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to you soon.