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Question: To those who are married,
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what are the strongest encouragements
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or strongest points of exhortation
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that you could give as you look back
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on what you've learned in
your 40 years of marriage?
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Clint: Well, communication is a big one.
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You can't exist in a happy marriage
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apart from communication.
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Sooner or later, the problems
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are going to mount up
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and they can be traced to
that one fountain head:
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you don't talk about things.
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And so that's a big one.
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We've got to talk, shouldn't we.
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It's a necessity.
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And then there's such things
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as ministries to one another -
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a ministry of comfort.
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When one is bereaved,
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when one is grieving,
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one is going through a difficult time,
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the other one has got to be there
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as a comfort.
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That's all part of the
intimacy of marriage.
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And so that's a big one.
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Selfishness.
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That will drive a nail in the coffin.
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I mean, if you have two
people that are selfish
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or you have one person
that's a selfish individual,
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there's going to be a lot
of grief and heartache
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when it could have been a happy marriage
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had one person been more selfless
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rather than selfish.
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Self-centeredness -
it shows up all the time.
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Not considering the other person
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more important than yourself.
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So that's a big one right there.
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Question: What are some examples
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of the ways you've seen selfishness
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manifest itself that sometimes
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people might be slow to recognize
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that they're even being selfish?
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Clint: Insistence oftentimes
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has in parentheses selfishness.
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I insist on this or that.
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You know, that seems to
come to mind immediately.
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I guess I couldn't give
a real example of it
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that would be useful.
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And it comes out all of the time.
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I insist we celebrate this
holiday with my family.
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You know, that could
just simply be selfish.
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Those kinds of things.
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Question: If someone came to you
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and they said brother,
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how can I fix the problems in my marriage?
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What would you say to someone
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whose mindset is maybe like a mechanic?
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Who is like I've got to fix all
these things in my marriage?
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Is that a good mindset to have?
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Or are there pitfalls there?
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What would you say?
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Clint: Well, we've got
to pray for one another.
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For sure.
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And I don't fault someone
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for wanting to improve their marriage.
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I mean, a marriage is something
you've got to work at.
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It's a hands on endeavor.
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It takes two people.
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In fact, the problems mount up
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when people don't work on their marriage.
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They get lazy.
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They don't spend the time together talking
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that they need to.
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They don't minister to one another.
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Those problems begin to mount up.
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They begin to live
separate lives and so on.
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So I don't fault someone for wanting
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to fix their marriage.
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It could be that what they need
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is to prioritize the problems
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and not try and fix all
of them all at once.
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Take the most dangerous ones
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or the most affecting ones.
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Work on them through prayer,
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through godly counsel.
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Not peer counsel.
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I'm not a big fan of peer counsel.
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But rather, godly counsel.
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Go to your pastors.
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You know, there's such a thing
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as casting your pearls before swine
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when you take intimate matters
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and begin to talk to your
best friend about them,
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who three months down the road
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is no longer your best friend,
but your worst enemy.
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And now he knows your
intimate secrets and issues.
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And you've cast your pearls before swine.
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They turn and rend you
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as it says there in the King James -
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tear you.
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So, we've got to be really cautious
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who we seek counsel from.
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So often, a word of counsel is very apt
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because that pastor is
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not emotionally tied up in the situation.
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Emotions run high in marital problems.
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And he can give an unbiased word
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of counsel from the
Bible or his experience.
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A man who's been a pastor
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and has been married for a number of years
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has a real advantage that way.
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There are some men that are pastors
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who are single pastors.
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They're not married.
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And they have real
difficulties, I would say,
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counseling married couples.
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They don't have those
experiences to fall back on.
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So as far as a hands on approach
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of fix my marriage kind of a mentality,
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it seems like prioritizing
would be the first step.
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This is the biggest issue right now
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that we have to face,
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so let's just work on that one.
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Then we'll move on from there.
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Marriage has got to be the
most sanctifying institution
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God has put on the planet
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except for maybe kids, child rearing.
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