Do I listen, or do I listen to myself? | Mirko Mescia | TEDxRiodelaPlataED
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0:15 - 0:19A while ago I met a friend
who was coming from a trip to Europe. -
0:19 - 0:21He told me about the places he visited.
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0:21 - 0:23And when he told me
he had been to Rome -
0:23 - 0:26I asked him if he visited
the Sistine Chapel. -
0:26 - 0:29He answered me in a funny tone,
kind of displeased: -
0:29 - 0:32"Yes, yes, I was in the Sistine Chapel."
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0:32 - 0:34Then I asked him,
"What do you think of it?" -
0:34 - 0:35"It's small."
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0:35 - 0:38"Sure, because it's a chapel.
But what do you think of it?" -
0:38 - 0:43"I think it's very small. So much fuss
about the Sistine Chapel and that was it?" -
0:43 - 0:47"Yes, that's because it's a chapel.
Otherwise, it'd be the Sistine Cathedral! -
0:47 - 0:48But what do you think of it?"
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0:49 - 0:51"I didn't like it, it's too small."
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0:58 - 1:02Why do I feel so close
to what happened to my friend? -
1:02 - 1:06My name is Mirko Mescia
and I work as a stage musician. -
1:06 - 1:10For those who don't know, it's about
writing, organizing and deciding -
1:10 - 1:15what it sounds like, why,
how and from where it sounds -
1:15 - 1:17everything that you hear
in a theater show: -
1:17 - 1:20The music, the sounds,
the noises and the silence. -
1:21 - 1:24And, even if it doesn't look like it,
this story has a lot to do -
1:24 - 1:27with what I've been discovering
in my profession. -
1:27 - 1:30I am Italian,
everyone has their own problems. -
1:30 - 1:34However, my first steps in
performing arts were in Andalusia, -
1:34 - 1:37where I was very close
to the street circus. -
1:37 - 1:42At that time, my criteria for
sound selection and choice were two: -
1:42 - 1:44I like it, I don't like it.
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1:45 - 1:46For example, this.
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1:46 - 1:50(Guitar)
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1:56 - 1:58(Bear toy sound and bugle)
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1:59 - 2:00(Bellows)
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2:00 - 2:02(Guitar)
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2:03 - 2:06It didn't matter which scene
it was going with, -
2:06 - 2:08I always played it; I liked it.
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2:09 - 2:11And for me it worked; for me.
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2:12 - 2:15Everything I played and heard
was filtered through that: -
2:15 - 2:18I like it, I don't like it;
I like it, I don't like it. -
2:18 - 2:22In a nutshell, I would say:
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2:22 - 2:26I don't listen, I listen to myself.
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2:26 - 2:27All the time.
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2:29 - 2:32This happens because it's very complex
to listen to reality. -
2:32 - 2:34Because I can't help
projecting myself into it. -
2:35 - 2:37And therefore, listening to myself
all the time. -
2:37 - 2:39And perhaps missing everything else.
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2:39 - 2:41All else which also sounds all the time.
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2:42 - 2:45I once worked with a Russian director
who called me for her show. -
2:45 - 2:49I remember we were at my workshop,
which is like a sound factory, -
2:49 - 2:53full of instruments and sound objects,
and I told her to sit giving me her back. -
2:53 - 2:55Because I wanted to introduce her
to some sounds -
2:55 - 2:59but I didn't want her to be conditioned
by how those sounds looked like. -
2:59 - 3:03At a given moment, I played
these little Turkish percussions -
3:04 - 3:06that dancers use in their dances.
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3:06 - 3:11But I touched them in a more spacey way
to give room to her imagination. -
3:12 - 3:16(Turkish percussions)
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3:16 - 3:18"No, not that sound," she said,
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3:18 - 3:20"it reminds me of the microwave chime
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3:20 - 3:22when it tells you the food is ready."
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3:22 - 3:24(Turkish percussions)
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3:24 - 3:25"How ignorant!" I thought.
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3:26 - 3:30"She doesn't even know it's an instrument
originary from ..." and blah, blah, blah. -
3:30 - 3:33It was my prejudice that spoke to me,
preventing me from listening -
3:33 - 3:36what I was so sincerely being told
by that director. -
3:37 - 3:40Thus, taking away from me an opportunity
to accept or do something -
3:40 - 3:44with that association between this sound
and the microwave chime. -
3:44 - 3:48Do you understand what I mean?
I don't listen, I listen to myself. -
3:49 - 3:52It's very hard to listen to reality.
It happens to all of us. -
3:52 - 3:54But this goes much further
than listening. -
3:55 - 3:56It has to do with perception
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3:56 - 4:00and how it's linked to our beliefs.
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4:01 - 4:03(Trumpet)
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4:05 - 4:09Let's see, do you know the story
of Romeo and Juliet? -
4:09 - 4:11Surely. It's amazing.
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4:11 - 4:13Everyone knows that Shakespeare's play.
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4:13 - 4:17I've been doing an experiment for years
with that story in several countries. -
4:17 - 4:20I ask, "How does Romeo and Juliet end?"
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4:20 - 4:23Think about it, it doesn't matter
whether you read it or not. -
4:24 - 4:26I'm sure that most of you
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4:26 - 4:29would answer that it ends
with the death of the two lovers. -
4:30 - 4:34Romeo finds Juliet dead
and kills himself for the pain. -
4:35 - 4:37Seconds later, Juliet wakes up --
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4:37 - 4:39who wasn't dead at all --
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4:39 - 4:41sees Romeo like this,
and kills herself in turn. -
4:42 - 4:43Bummer!
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4:43 - 4:45Well, there's news.
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4:46 - 4:47While it's a tragedy,
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4:47 - 4:51it doesn't end as bad as the vast majority
of planet Earth believes. -
4:52 - 4:56Because the play isn't just the story
of the love of two youngsters who die. -
4:56 - 4:59The play tells a story of hatred,
of an enmity, -
4:59 - 5:04between two families that no longer even
remember the reason for that enmity. -
5:04 - 5:07And what does Shakespeare do
to tell us about that hatred? -
5:07 - 5:09He places what could contrast it the most:
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5:09 - 5:12Two teenagers who fall in love,
there in the middle. -
5:13 - 5:16In other words, the price
for that enmity to end -
5:16 - 5:19is to lose the two most precious jewels
of those two families. -
5:20 - 5:26The play ends when Romeo's father
and Juliet's father meet, -
5:26 - 5:29look at each other, shake hands
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5:29 - 5:31and, in front of the two dead teenagers,
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5:31 - 5:33put an end to that enmity.
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5:34 - 5:37It's very, very sad. But it ends well.
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5:37 - 5:39Not like we all thought.
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5:39 - 5:41There are elements
making such an impression, -
5:41 - 5:43leaving such a mark on us,
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5:43 - 5:46that prevent us from seeing
or listen to what follows. -
5:46 - 5:47They work like a filter.
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5:47 - 5:50So we don't listen,
we listen to ourselves. -
5:50 - 5:52We don't look, look at ourselves.
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5:52 - 5:55We don't read,
we read ourselves all the time. -
5:55 - 5:57We rarely create the space,
make the pause, -
5:57 - 6:00to listen in a more detached way,
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6:00 - 6:01trying to get us out of the way
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6:01 - 6:06to assess the event,
the phrase, the situation itself. -
6:06 - 6:08To embrace it and accept it.
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6:08 - 6:11Or at least, from there
evaluate what to do next. -
6:11 - 6:15In one of his teachings, Confucius said
that a virtuous person -
6:15 - 6:19when they look, they wonder
if they observed with clarity, -
6:19 - 6:22when they hear, they wonder
if they listened without confusion. -
6:23 - 6:27The power to create that space
lies within us. -
6:27 - 6:30The power to allow
that pause for acceptance. -
6:30 - 6:32(Instrument)
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6:36 - 6:38I have several spaces
where I try to exercise -
6:38 - 6:42this issue of not perceiving reality
only through my filters. -
6:42 - 6:46For example, sometimes we get together
with a group of friends -
6:46 - 6:48in order to analyze a Shakespeare play.
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6:48 - 6:50Firstly, we see what happened
to us with the play. -
6:50 - 6:53And then we see what happens in the play.
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6:53 - 6:55It's impressive what happens.
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6:55 - 6:57There are pages that we overlook.
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6:57 - 7:00Important information we miss out,
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7:00 - 7:02like the ending of Romeo and Juliet.
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7:02 - 7:03But there are many more.
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7:03 - 7:06And I try to bring all this
to my daily life. -
7:06 - 7:07And also to my craft.
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7:07 - 7:11Being a theatre musician
it's a very ancient art. -
7:11 - 7:14It has to do with looking,
with accepting, waiting, -
7:15 - 7:19with suggesting, accompanying, caring.
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7:25 - 7:28Everyone can discover
their own way of creating that space -
7:28 - 7:32to prevent this from always happening:
I don't perceive, I perceive myself. -
7:32 - 7:37Once we create this way, it would be great
to turn it into a habit, -
7:37 - 7:40to bring what we've learned
to all aspects of our lives. -
7:40 - 7:43Is what I'm hearing
what they're telling me? -
7:43 - 7:44And about what they're not telling me,
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7:44 - 7:47am I listening to it
or listening to myself? -
7:48 - 7:52I enter the Sistine Chapel and I say,
"How small this is!" ... -
7:52 - 7:55Or do I say,
"It's smaller than I thought" -
7:55 - 7:57and I discover it!
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7:57 - 7:59How does Romeo and Juliet end?
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7:59 - 8:02What have we missed
from this wonderful story? -
8:02 - 8:05When I hear, do I listen clearly?
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8:06 - 8:09(Turkish percussions)
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8:09 - 8:11Thank you very much.
- Title:
- Do I listen, or do I listen to myself? | Mirko Mescia | TEDxRiodelaPlataED
- Description:
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What is the difference between what we perceive and what actually happens? As a musical composer of theatre, circus, and puppets, Mirko learned to separate what he hears from what others hear and tells us some keys to be able to do it. Mirko Mescia is a stage musician and writer. He was born in Italy and completed his training in "Composition and Sound Effects" in theater, circus, and puppets in cities such as Granada, Copenhagen, and Buenos Aires. He composed music and sound designs for the scene both in Europe and Argentina, of which he composed the most outstanding for the works directed by Agustín Alezzo. He published the book "Points of Hearing: Interviews and Conversations". He is a teacher and does research on how the use, non-use, or abuse of sound influences the performing arts.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx - Video Language:
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- Duration:
- 08:21
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