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How doctors can help fix the broken US asylum system

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    Several years ago a young man
    came to see me in my clinic.
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    He told me he was running for his life.
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    He said that he fled his home
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    because there, homosexuality
    wasn't just illegal,
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    in some cases it was punishable by death.
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    So when his sexual
    orientation was exposed,
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    his family rejected him,
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    his boss fired him
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    and angry mobs repeatedly
    attacked him in the streets.
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    And each time the police
    arrived only to arrest him,
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    detain and torture him further.
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    And he knew that if he couldn't
    escape the cycle of violence,
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    he would surely be killed.
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    So he had to do what
    he needed to do to survive.
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    He left everything behind.
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    All of his friends,
    his family, his career.
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    He fled his home,
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    he escaped to the United States
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    and here he applied for asylum.
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    But like many people fleeing
    this kind of persecution,
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    he couldn't carry much.
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    He had some basic ID,
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    barely any money
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    and a few other belongings.
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    He certainly didn't bring
    official documents
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    from the police who tortured him.
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    No videos from the mob
    that tried to kill him.
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    He didn't have this kind of evidence
    to help support his claims,
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    yet here he was,
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    sitting in my clinic,
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    showing me some of the most powerful
    evidence of his persecution.
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    That was the physical and psychological
    scars that he brought with him.
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    You see, he suffered
    from chronic, debilitating pain.
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    He had severe scars
    scattered over his body,
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    poorly healing wounds
    that got infected over and over again.
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    He suffered from severe depression
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    and continued to have regular, paralyzing
    flashbacks and nightmares from PTSD.
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    So we continued our work.
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    We met regularly for months,
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    documenting each of these pieces
    of medical evidence.
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    We went over the details of every attack,
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    photographed his scars,
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    documented his injuries and wounds
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    and we were even able to start
    chronicling his slow but steady recovery
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    while under our care.
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    Working closely with his lawyers,
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    I submitted a detailed affidavit,
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    including the findings of this forensic
    medical evaluation,
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    and we included it as part
    of his asylum application.
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    And then we waited
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    for several long years
    while he navigated the courts.
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    And then one day I got an email from him.
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    It said that he was granted asylum.
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    And everyone in the clinic was overjoyed.
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    He said in his email that this was
    the first time in years
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    that he didn't fear deportation and death.
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    It was the first time in years
    that he truly felt safe,
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    that he had the security
    to rebuild his life all over again.
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    And it was only through this medical
    and legal advocacy
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    that we were able to help restore
    his legal status and his rights
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    that he could do that,
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    all through asylum.
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    Now for many people fleeing persecution,
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    they come to programs
    and clinics like this
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    telling unimaginable tales of violence
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    and different reasons
    they were persecuted.
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    But one thing is always the same.
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    The violence meted against them
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    was done with complete impunity,
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    sometimes by the hands of the state
    directly through police
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    or military officials.
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    In other cases,
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    the state just turns a blind eye
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    and condones the acts
    of paramilitary groups
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    or even violent domestic partners.
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    In other cases,
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    state is completely powerless
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    to protect the vulnerable
    from powerful gangs.
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    Now we know that social determinants
    of health play a huge role
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    in determining the health
    and well-being of our patients:
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    housing, income, education, race,
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    social inclusion --
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    but the same can be true
    for equal protection in the law --
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    due process.
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    Especially in societies
    for the most vulnerable,
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    the marginalized
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    and even those who are actively targeted,
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    their access to these human
    rights protections,
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    that can mean the difference
    between sickness and in health,
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    and often it's the difference
    between life and death.
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    And for millions of people
    who endure persecution and torture,
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    the only way to heal
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    is to acknowledge the human
    rights abuses that have occurred
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    and to help restore the rights
    and protections that were so violated.
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    After the atrocities of World War II,
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    the asylum system was set up
    as one pathway to that kind of relief.
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    But these days it seems like that pathway
    has turned into an obstacle course,
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    setting people up to fail.
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    Asylum seekers oftentimes
    don't know how to start,
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    let alone complete the process
    that can drag on for years.
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    They're not entitled to lawyers
    so they don't know their rights.
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    Increasingly, they're even being barred
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    from setting foot in places
    of potential refuge.
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    They're arrested or prosecuted,
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    even deported before they ever
    get to see an asylum officer.
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    And even if they do
    make it through the process,
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    asylum grant rates
    can be as low as 20 percent,
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    and far worse for some.
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    It's almost like the system was designed
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    to keep people from
    exercising their right.
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    But there is something that many
    of these people can do.
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    Something that can potentially
    increase their chances of success
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    to 90 percent or more.
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    So what makes the difference?
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    Getting a lawyer and having
    a medical evaluation.
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    It's as simple as that.
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    The man who came to my clinic
    and won his asylum case.
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    Doctors and lawyers working together
    to present all of the evidence,
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    including the medical evidence,
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    to the courts
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    allows judges to make
    informed and just decisions.
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    And it's this kind
    of medical-legal partnership
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    that's now more important than ever
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    because we live in a time
    of epic, forced migration
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    due to violence and conflict.
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    In 2018 there were 70 million
    people worldwide forcibly displaced
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    due to war, conflict and persecution.
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    It includes 40 million
    internally displaced,
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    25 million refugees
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    and three million asylum seekers.
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    Here in the United States,
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    we see the impact of escalating violence
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    in places like El Salvador,
    Guatemala and Honduras,
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    where murder rates can be high
    as those in Syria and Afghanistan.
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    Where police corruption
    and gang violence are on the rise,
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    where poverty and child abuse
    are widespread and tolerated,
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    where basic systems of governance --
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    public safety,
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    child protection --
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    are ineffective.
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    It's no surprise then that many
    of the most vulnerable
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    in some of these societies --
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    children, women and other
    targeted groups --
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    they're growing increasingly desperate
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    and fleeing in unprecedented numbers.
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    Like over the past 10 years,
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    the numbers of unaccompanied children
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    trying to seek safety
    at our Southwest border
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    has increased 18-fold,
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    from 3300 in 2009 to over
    62,000 this past year.
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    That's in addition to nearly half
    a million people traveling as families.
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    Men, women and children
    trying to seek refuge at our borders,
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    but who are stranded
    in a humanitarian crisis.
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    And what makes matters worse
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    is that they're caught in this fog
    of claims and counterclaims
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    about who they are,
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    what they've experienced,
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    where the proof is
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    and what they deserve.
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    Do they deserve our help?
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    Sometimes people make claims
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    that they're not fleeing
    human rights abuses
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    but are simply economic migrants.
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    Others say these children
    are actually being exploited
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    and trafficked by their parents.
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    Others say they're
    not even children at all;
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    they're hardened criminals,
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    they're gang members
    trying to infiltrate our country.
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    To cut through some of this fog,
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    my colleagues and I conducted a study.
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    We looked at data
    from children seeking asylum
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    who had medical evaluations.
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    And this is what the evidence told us.
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    80 percent of these children had evidence
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    of exposure to repeated physical violence:
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    assault and torture.
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    60 percent of the girls
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    and at least 10 percent of the boys
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    had evidence of repeated
    exposure to sexual violence.
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    One young girl,
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    telling a story
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    and having corroborating evidence
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    of being detained, beaten and raped
    over the course of three years,
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    trafficked to other men
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    and even having the threats
    of the murder of her entire family
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    if she should ever escape
    or try to seek help.
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    90 percent of these children
    had evidence of psychological harm
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    from indirect violence,
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    including such severe threats
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    but also witnessing untold
    atrocities with their very eyes.
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    One young boy described
    the terror and the grief
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    and the utter fear
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    of seeing the mutilated bodies
    and faces of his younger brother,
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    his aunt,
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    his uncle,
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    his cousin,
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    all killed in a single gang attack
    meant to send the community a message.
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    And of course the psychological
    toll is immense.
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    19 percent of these children
    had signs of anxiety disorder,
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    41 percent, depression
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    and 64 percent, PTSD.
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    21 percent also had signs
    of suicidality as children.
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    To put this into some perspective,
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    returning combat veterans,
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    they have PTSD on the order
    of 10 to 20 percent.
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    These children at three-to-six times
    more likely to have PTSD
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    than a soldier returning from war.
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    Now despite this burden
    and despite this trauma,
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    there are many others still.
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    Children who come to seek safety
    and enter into our immigration system
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    only to find further abuse
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    and even torture reminiscent
    of the places that they fled.
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    You might remember
    some of those headlines,
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    some of those images this past year.
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    Children being ripped
    from the arms of their parents.
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    Toddlers, infants in cold
    and unsanitary cages.
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    The absence of food, water
    clothing and even soap.
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    There's also increasing reports
    of medical negligence,
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    preventable complications,
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    child abuse,
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    sexual abuse
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    and even child deaths in US custody.
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    Sadly, many of these abuses
    and crimes aren't new.
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    Some date back many years
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    and even across administrations.
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    But something's changed.
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    The scope and scale
    of these abuses and crimes,
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    the systematic and seemingly purposeful
    endangerment of asylum seekers
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    and also the impunity
    with which it's being done
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    has raised the harm
    to an entirely new level.
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    It reminds me of one
    of the girls in the study
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    who told us how she pleaded
    with one of her attackers,
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    asking him to stop,
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    asking why she was targeted.
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    And do you what his response was?
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    He says "we can do this because
    there's no one here to protect you."
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    We can't let this be true
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    of children and other asylum seekers
    trying to find help at our borders.
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    But what do we do?
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    As a physician,
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    I'm often dealing with difficult decisions
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    with some of my sickest
    and most complex patients.
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    Of course we want to keep
    our focus on their health,
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    their well-being,
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    their quality of life,
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    but sometimes it requires
    a deeper exploration of their values
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    to really understand how to move forward.
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    In a similar way,
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    our nation is facing a crisis
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    with the increasing number
    of asylum seekers at our borders
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    and in our communities,
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    and it compels us to re-examine
    some of our own fundamental values.
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    What does it mean when
    we value health and safety?
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    What does it mean when we value security,
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    life,
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    liberty,
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    the life of children?
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    What about this one --
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    what does it mean when we say
    we value law and order?
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    Does that also include respecting
    due process rights for an asylum seeker?
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    Now for some,
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    when they hear these terms
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    they immediately gravitate
    towards wanting to build more walls,
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    deploy more border patrol,
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    deporting more people
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    even if it means separating
    children from their families,
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    subjecting them to psychological torture
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    or deporting them to places
    where they might die.
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    All the in the name of security.
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    All in our name.
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    But for me and for many others,
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    when I think of these values,
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    that pushes me
    in an entirely new direction
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    and renews my commitment to try
    to meet the needs of these asylum seekers
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    with every tool I have at my disposal.
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    So that when we say that we
    value life and liberty,
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    we'll see these people who have
    taken unimaginable risks
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    to flee imminent danger and harm
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    to try to find safety.
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    We'll meet them where they are
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    and provide food, water,
    shelter, clothing.
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    And we'll certainly meet
    them with medical care
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    and mental health care
    that they so desperately need.
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    When we say that we value the rule of law
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    and not just the privileges
    it provides a few
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    but the responsibilities
    it requires of all of us,
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    we'll make sure that we have
    a functioning immigration system.
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    We'll make sure that we have
    trained judges.
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    We'll make sure that we're not
    settling for the illusion of law and order
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    that maybe a tall wall
    or a militarized border might provide us.
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    We want the real thing.
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    We want judges to be able
    to evaluate the evidence,
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    including the medical evidence,
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    and we want them to administer justice ...
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    fairly.
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    When we say that we value
    health and well-being,
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    that we don't want to perpetuate harm,
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    then we'll deploy
    trauma-informed strategies
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    at all levels of the immigration system.
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    It might start with retraining
    border patrol agents
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    or immigration officials,
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    but it needs more medical,
    mental health and child welfare experts
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    across the whole system.
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    And when we say that we value justice,
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    we won't let ourselves
    be turned into the torturers
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    that many of these children
    and other people fled.
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    We'll open up our detention
    centers and our courts
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    to experts and advocates
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    to hold ourselves accountable.
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    And we may find that we need
    to shut down most of them
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    and close these camps.
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    I believe that by working
    in effective partnerships
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    with lawyers, doctors,
    human rights advocates
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    and many others,
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    that we can work together
    to meet these asylum seekers' needs,
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    that we can meet our historical,
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    humanitarian
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    and legal obligations to them.
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    And when we do,
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    I think something powerful will unfold.
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    Not only will these asylum seekers --
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    like the man who came to my clinic
    and won his asylum case,
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    like the children in the study
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    or the many thousands of others
    seeking a new life,
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    they'll be able to find
    that safety and security.
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    We'll recognize the abuses
    that have occurred
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    and we'll restore the rights
    and protections that were lost.
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    And I think that we'll be in wonder
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    when we see them in the fullness
    of their humanity.
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    Not just their strengths and weaknesses,
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    their hopes and joys,
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    not just the trauma that we acknowledge,
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    but we'll also stand with them
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    and we'll be inspired by their resilience.
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    They'll blossom
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    and they'll add to the
    richness of this nation.
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    I think my staying true
    to our fundamental values
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    in the way that I've described,
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    that's how we build a sane
    and humane immigration system.
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    That's how we remain the golden door.
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    And that's how it happens
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    that we remain the shining
    light of the world.
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    Thank you.
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Title:
How doctors can help fix the broken US asylum system
Speaker:
Joseph Shin
Description:

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
16:37

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